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    Why Andre Drummond Left Nets... Dropouts #110

    en-usAugust 02, 2022

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    • Embracing UniquenessDespite size or perceived differences, everyone has something valuable to offer, so embrace your uniqueness and make the most of your talents.

      Size and height are not everything, and it's important to embrace who we are despite our differences. Our guest, Andre Drummond, shared his experience of growing up as a larger-than-average person and the challenges he faced trying to fit in. He also shared some amusing anecdotes about people misunderstanding his identity, such as being mistaken for LeBron James. Despite the challenges, Drummond learned to embrace his uniqueness and make the most of his talents. He encourages everyone to do the same and not let their size or perceived differences hold them back. It's essential to remember that everyone has something valuable to offer, regardless of their physical attributes.

    • A mother's unwavering support for her daughter's athletic pursuitsHaving a supportive family and persisting through challenges can lead to success, even if initial abilities don't translate to immediate achievements.

      Despite her lack of knowledge about basketball and never having met her father, who was a professional basketball player, the speaker's mother remained a constant source of support and encouragement for her daughter's athletic pursuits. The speaker, who had tried various sports growing up, revealed that she was only good in practice but didn't play in games due to her principal's insistence that she focus on basketball. Her mother, who was always her biggest advocate, never questioned her daughter's height or talent and instead embraced her unique abilities, even if they didn't translate to success on the basketball court. The speaker's story highlights the importance of having a supportive family and the value of persistence and hard work, even when faced with challenges or setbacks.

    • Discovering hidden talents late in lifeHard work and determination can lead to unexpected achievements, even when starting late. Maintain focus and strive for excellence to reach your full potential.

      Determination and hard work can lead to unexpected improvements and achievements. The speaker shares his personal story of discovering coordination and basketball skills late in high school, which eventually led him to play at the NBA level. His mother's encouragement and high expectations played a significant role in his success. Additionally, the competitive environment of high school basketball, including playing against older competitors, pushed him to improve and strive for excellence. Despite facing challenges and obstacles, the speaker's dedication and focus ultimately paid off. His story serves as a reminder that it's never too late to pursue your goals and work towards your full potential.

    • Family and community's influence on college basketball recruitmentFamily and community support played a crucial role in a former player's decision to attend Yukon College instead of other schools.

      Family and community played a significant role in the college basketball recruitment process for some athletes. The speaker, a former college basketball player, shared his experience of being recruited by various schools but ultimately choosing to stay close to home and attend Yukon College. He mentioned that the inspiration and support from his family and community were crucial factors in his decision-making process. The speaker also touched upon the misconceptions surrounding college basketball recruiting, emphasizing that it's not always about shady deals but rather the connections and influences from one's community. The speaker's story highlights the importance of family and community in the college basketball recruitment process and challenges the common perception that it's solely based on shady deals and big-name schools.

    • Discovering a hidden strength through focusNBA player Torian Jones found success by focusing on rebounding, an often overlooked skill, and became one of the top rebounders in the league.

      NBA player Torian Jones discovered his exceptional rebounding skills after feeling lost in the league and being advised to focus on perfecting one aspect of the game. He found that rebounding, which is often overlooked, came naturally to him, and he has since become one of the top rebounders in the league. Jones's high school coach encouraged him to focus on this skill and noted that few players prioritize rebounding. Jones's ability to effortlessly grab rebounds, sometimes even tripling his opponents' totals in a game, sets him apart and demonstrates the importance of mastering an often overlooked aspect of basketball.

    • Overcoming Challenges to Achieve NBA SuccessDetermination and willpower helped a consistent double-double rebounder in NBA overcome physical challenges and tough opponents, adjusting strategies to maintain success.

      Determination and willpower have been key factors in the speaker's successful NBA career as a consistent double-double rebounder. Despite the physical challenges and tough opponents, such as Nikolai Pejkovic and Steven Adams, the speaker has found ways to anticipate and outmaneuver them. The speaker's early career was marked by intense dislike for certain opponents, particularly Adams, due to their size and strength. However, the speaker has learned to read their opponents and adjust his strategy accordingly, allowing him to maintain a double-digit rebound average throughout his career. The drafting process was also a significant moment in the speaker's life, providing a sense of validation and accomplishment for all the hardships he had faced prior to reaching the NBA.

    • Family's impact on the speaker's NBA journeyMom managed money wisely, dad's influence as Bulls trainer, staying grounded amid wealth, surreal first NBA game vs Kobe

      Family played a significant role in the speaker's journey from a young basketball player to a successful NBA player. The speaker shared stories of how his mother and father influenced him, with his mother helping him transition from a boy to a man and managing his money wisely, and his father being a trainer for the Chicago Bulls during Michael Jordan's tenure. The speaker also highlighted the euphoric moment of being drafted and the sudden influx of wealth, but emphasized the importance of staying grounded and saving for the future. An influential moment for the speaker was playing against Kobe Bryant in his first NBA game, which he described as surreal and a dream come true. Overall, family and the love of basketball were the driving forces behind the speaker's success in the NBA.

    • Kobe's impact went beyond basketballKobe's mindset, work ethic, and advice continue to inspire, resonating deeply even after his passing.

      Kobe Bryant's impact on basketball and those around him went beyond the physical realm. His mindset, work ethic, and advice continue to inspire and resonate with people. During his last All-Star game, he advised the speaker to stay hungry and not be complacent, which stuck with him through his career transitions. When Kobe's passing was announced, disbelief turned to heartfelt sadness as the full extent of his legacy was realized. Despite not knowing him well, the speaker's mother attended his last game, adding to the profound impact Kobe had on people's lives. Kobe's storytelling abilities, as showcased in his Oscar-winning short film, further emphasized his influence. The speaker's early career experiences, including being a 4th place rookie of the year candidate and dealing with a stress fracture, paled in comparison to the lasting impression left by Kobe Bryant.

    • Pressure and expectations in NBABecoming an NBA star at a young age brings immense pressure and expectations, which can impact mental well-being. Coping mechanisms and learning from experiences are essential for success.

      The pressure and expectations of becoming a top NBA player at a young age can have a significant impact on one's mental well-being. The speaker shares an experience of being shoved by Kobe Bryant during a crucial moment in a game, which left him feeling paralyzed and awkward. Despite this, he learned to cope and move forward, using the experience as a reminder of the challenges he faced and the company he kept in the league. The speaker also reflects on the toll the pressure and attention took on him mentally, comparing it to the pressure felt by individuals in everyday life. He recalls the first moments of recognition from his peers, including LeBron James, and shares his belief that both Kobe Bryant and LeBron James are exceptional players in their respective generations. Ultimately, the speaker acknowledges the difficulty of comparing players across eras and emphasizes the importance of recognizing the unique challenges and achievements of each individual.

    • Comparing Basketball Greats: Jordan and LeBron JamesBoth Jordan and LeBron James have unique strengths on the court and impressive statistics, making it challenging to choose between them. Being an all-star player brings excitement, while experiences and technology have changed over the years. Unexpected trades and strong support systems are important aspects of a successful career.

      The discussion revolved around the comparison of basketball greats, Jordan and LeBron James, and their unique strengths on the court. Both players have impressive statistics and skills, making it difficult to choose between them. Another topic touched upon was the experience of being an all-star player and the excitement it brings. The conversation also included reminiscing about the past, including personal experiences and changes in technology. Lastly, the athlete shared stories about the unexpected nature of being traded and the importance of having a strong support system.

    • Unexpected life challenges and new beginningsLife's unpredictability can lead to tough situations, but adopting a new perspective and embracing change can make us more resilient and adaptable.

      Life can be unpredictable and throw unexpected challenges our way. As shared in the conversation, a basketball player was suddenly traded from his team after seven years, leaving him feeling a mix of emotions. He was initially in shock, sad, and even angry, but eventually came to accept it as a new chapter. This experience taught him to toughen up and treat professional relationships as business transactions. His mother's perspective of looking at it as a new beginning also influenced his decision to adopt the number 0, symbolizing the cyclical nature of life and its endless possibilities. Ultimately, the hardship of getting traded made him a more resilient and adaptable person.

    • A basketball player's journey into musicFormer NBA player Andre Drummond pursued music, inspired by artists and personal connections, leading to DJing and producing, taking it seriously and seeking advice.

      Andre Drummond, a professional basketball player, has a deep connection with his former teammates and friends in the NBA, and he has expanded his career into music, inspired by artists like Wiz Khalifa. Drummond's experiences in the league and his love for music led him to start DJing and eventually producing his own music. He takes his craft seriously and seeks advice from industry professionals. Drummond's respect for the art of music and entertainment, as well as his success in basketball, have given him a unique perspective and the opportunity to explore various avenues of expression. The power of personal connections and the influence of social media have played significant roles in his journey. Drummond's story highlights the importance of pursuing passions and expanding horizons, even when faced with success and opportunities in other areas.

    • NBA Players' Unexpected Trades Lead to Discussion on Music and ChoirNBA players have diverse interests beyond basketball, including music and singing. Choir participation can foster valuable skills and positive experiences.

      NBA players have diverse interests and personalities beyond their basketball careers. During a conversation about the unexpected nature of being traded, the topic shifted to music and singing, with players like LeBron James, Lonzo Ball, and Kyrie Irving being mentioned as musically inclined. The discussion also touched upon the importance of choir in developing values and skills. Despite the quick turn of events due to the pandemic, the speakers expressed positive experiences with their teams and cities. Overall, this exchange highlights the multifaceted lives of professional athletes and their ability to adapt to new environments.

    • Navigating the Risks of Social MediaBe mindful of sharing private interactions publicly to avoid misinterpretation and potential harm from cancel culture.

      Social media can be a double-edged sword. While it offers opportunities for brand deals and connecting with friends, it also carries the risk of misinterpretation and potential harm from cancel culture. The speaker shares his personal experience of being wary of social media and hiring a friend to manage his online presence. He believes that private interactions with friends should remain private and not be shared publicly, as they can be misconstrued and lead to offense or even cancellation. The speaker also mentions his experience with the NBA, where he played for two years but only managed to play eight games due to the pandemic and a trade. Despite the challenges, he remains positive and emphasizes the importance of keeping private interactions private and not seeking to offend others unintentionally.

    • Intentionally benching players for draft picksSports teams prioritize draft picks over player morale and performance, leading to intentional benching and potential negative impacts on player contracts and team dynamics.

      Professional sports can sometimes prioritize winning through draft picks over player morale and performance. The speaker in this conversation shares his experience of being benched intentionally by his team, leading him to realize they were trying to tank for better draft picks. He felt frustrated and misunderstood, as he believed in giving his all every game to win. The situation also affected his future contracts, as teams might prefer younger, cheaper talent over him. Despite the challenges, the speaker remained professional and didn't cause any problems. This incident highlights the business aspect of sports and the complex dynamics between team management, player performance, and fan expectations.

    • Experiencing setbacks in professional sports and finding new opportunitiesStaying committed to personal goals and embracing new opportunities can lead to success in professional sports despite setbacks.

      Perseverance and staying focused on personal goals can lead to opportunities in professional sports, even after experiencing setbacks. The speaker shares his experience of being bought out of his contract and becoming a free agent, which felt like the draft all over again. He then describes the pressure and media attention that came with joining the Los Angeles Lakers, a team known worldwide. Despite the challenges of adjusting to a new team and having no rhythm after a 4-month hiatus, he enjoyed his time there and felt a connection to the team and its iconic history. Later, he joined the Sixers, where his long-time coach Doc Rivers provided a sense of familiarity. Through these experiences, the speaker demonstrates the importance of staying committed to one's goals and embracing new opportunities, even when faced with adversity.

    • Overcoming Pride for Growth in NBANBA players learn to set aside pride, collaborate, and grow through opportunities to play with top talent, ultimately benefiting themselves and their teams.

      Pride can sometimes hinder opportunities for growth and success. In the NBA, a player shared his story of being approached by a rival team and being offered a chance to play alongside a top player, Joel Embiid. Initially, he refused due to his pride and desire to not play behind anyone. However, after some reflection, he realized that this opportunity could help him improve and contribute to a team with one of the best bigs in the league. Although it meant facing a personal rival and dealing with criticism from fans, he ultimately decided to accept the offer. Through this experience, he learned to respect Embiid's work ethic and dedication to the game, forming a new bond and appreciation for his former rival. NBA practices differ from high school and college, as players know their roles and focus on supporting their teammates and helping them succeed. Overall, this player's story highlights the importance of setting aside personal pride for the greater good and the potential benefits of collaboration and growth.

    • Forming a superteam doesn't ensure successChemistry and team dynamic are crucial for success, even with star players. Struggles with injuries and play style differences can hinder progress.

      The formation of a superteam, even with star players like Ben Simmons, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Durant, and Blake Griffin, doesn't guarantee success. The team's dynamic and chemistry are crucial factors that require time and effort to develop. The interviewee, who had experienced joining the team mid-season, shared his observations of the team's identity crisis and the challenges of meshing different play styles. Despite the potential greatness on paper, the team was struggling with injuries and figuring out how to play together. The interviewee also expressed his excitement about joining the Chicago Bulls, a team he believes is a contender, and embracing the opportunity to prove himself and run teams out of the gym.

    • Drummond Discusses Potential Podcast CollaborationAndre Drummond expressed interest in collaborating on a podcast episode with the Dropouts hosts, showcasing his comedy skills and potential for future collaborations.

      Andre Drummond, a basketball player, had a fun and engaging conversation with the hosts of the Dropouts podcast. During the discussion, Drummond expressed his interest in potentially collaborating on a podcast episode with the hosts, which they were excited about. They also talked about Drummond's comedy skills and how they could incorporate comedians into the podcast. Drummond shared his social media handles, which the hosts promised to include in the podcast description. The conversation ended with Drummond expressing his gratitude for being invited on the show and the hosts expressing their excitement for future collaborations. The episode concluded with the hosts encouraging listeners to share their favorite highlights of Drummond and promising new content on Instagram and TikTok. Overall, the conversation showcased the relaxed and friendly dynamic between Drummond and the Dropouts podcast hosts.

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