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    Why Brand is the Biggest Risk in Investing (on Don’t Be Sour) Pt. 1 - Feb. ‘23 | Ep 540

    enMay 20, 2023

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    • Measuring Wealth Beyond Net WorthSuccessful entrepreneurs like Alex Hermozzi view wealth as more than just net worth, emphasizing the importance of asking the right questions and finding creative solutions to grow businesses profitably.

      The speaker, Alex Hermozzi, is a successful entrepreneur with a passion for solving problems and growing businesses. He started a chain of gyms, sold it for $46.2 million, and now invests in and acquires companies through acquisition.com. He encourages fresh perspectives and learning, even when sharing his own story. Wealth, as he explains, can be measured in various ways, and the term "net worth" can become increasingly murky as one becomes wealthier. Despite the various ways to quantify wealth, Hermozzi remains focused on asking the right questions and finding creative solutions to make businesses grow profitably.

    • Understanding the difference between wealth and net worthWealth represents one's total economic value, while net worth focuses on the value of assets that can be liquidated. Illiquid assets, like businesses, can be challenging to value accurately.

      Wealth and net worth are not the same, especially when it comes to illiquid assets. The value of assets can be difficult to determine, especially when they're not readily available for sale. People may inflate revenue numbers or net worth for status reasons, and it's important to be accurate and clear about what one actually owns. Acquisition.com is a company that invests in minority stakes in businesses with revenues between $3 and $100 million. They provide hands-on help to grow the business and get discounted valuations due to their involvement. The company's website does not provide a lot of explanation, emphasizing the importance of understanding the business before investing.

    • Keep your homepage clear and concise for more dealsA clear homepage can lead to more business deals, saving time and money through quick negotiations, and a long-term investment strategy.

      Having a clear and concise homepage on a website, rather than a lengthy description, can lead to more deals for the business owner. The speaker, who comes from a direct response background, believes that fewer deals would come his way if he had a long-winded explanation of what his business does on the homepage. He also shared that he was able to buy the domain name acquisition.com for a relatively low price by offering cash payment upfront and closing the deal quickly, instead of haggling over a longer period of time. The speaker values speed and the opportunity cost of time over potentially saving a small amount of money through negotiation. Additionally, the businesses that Acquisition.com invests in are typically not sold right away, as the goal is to hold them for the long term. The speaker does not endorse the companies he invests in and does not promote them publicly.

    • Control and brand matter in business dealsControl and brand are essential in business deals, impacting risk mitigation, company value, and long-term success. Brands, as unique assets, can attract investors and increase a company's worth beyond sales and profits.

      Control and brand are crucial factors when considering an endorsement or investment. The speaker emphasizes the importance of having significant control in a business to mitigate risks to both personal brand and the business itself. Additionally, the value of a company is not solely based on its sales or profits, but also on its future sustainability and unique competitive advantages. Brands, for instance, can be valuable assets that cannot be easily replicated, making them attractive for investors like Warren Buffett. Valuations are amorphous and variable, and the ability to borrow money at lower rates can influence market values. Ultimately, the goal is to make companies independently valuable and less dependent on individuals, ensuring long-term success.

    • Factors affecting business valueStrategic buyers pay more due to synergies, financial buyers focus on financials, market conditions and specific circumstances impact sale price.

      The value of a business is determined by various factors, including the type of buyer and the strategic fit of the acquisition. Strategic buyers are willing to pay more due to potential synergies and the ability to cross-sell products or services. However, these deals take longer and involve more integration. Financial buyers, on the other hand, focus on the business's financials and tend to pay less. It's essential to consider the economics of your business before deciding to raise funds. If the business model makes sense and the LTV is greater than the customer acquisition cost, then raising money to accelerate growth can be beneficial. Conversely, raising funds to cover losses or artificially lower prices can lead to issues. Ultimately, the value of a business is based on what someone is willing to pay. The market conditions and the specific circumstances of the sale also play a significant role.

    • Focusing on business optimization and profitability instead of fundraisingCompanies can grow without diluting equity by optimizing business models and forming strategic partnerships instead of relying on external funding.

      While it's possible to raise significant funds through public offerings based on brand value and hype, there's a risk of leaving retail investors holding the bag if the company doesn't grow into its valuation. The speaker prefers to avoid outside funding and instead focuses on optimizing business models and profitability. He believes that by asking the right questions and being creative, companies can find ways to grow without diluting equity. The speaker also mentioned that most of their deals don't involve formal fundraising, but rather strategic partnerships.

    • Building a great company with a long-term vision is keyFounders should focus on building a great company with a clear mission and long-term vision, aiming for larger profit margins to make it attractive for potential buyers, even if institutional investment threshold is $10M sales and $5M EBITDA.

      From a founder's perspective, building a business with a long-term vision and passion for the cause is more valuable than focusing solely on reaching a certain financial goal for an acquisition. Institutional investors typically show interest in businesses with at least $10 million in top line sales and $5 million in EBITDA. However, founders should aim for larger profit margins to make their companies more attractive to potential buyers. Ultimately, missionaries who think long-term and focus on building a great company will create the highest returns. From a business perspective, acquiring companies with strong, passionate leaders and long-term visions can lead to significant gains. The line for institutional investment is usually around $10 million in sales and $5 million in EBITDA. Companies below this threshold may not be considered attractive for acquisition due to smaller profit margins. But, it's important to remember that every business is unique and context matters. Some businesses, like those in tech, may require significant investment before they become profitable. In the end, focusing on building a great company with a clear mission and long-term vision is the key to success, whether that leads to an acquisition or not.

    • Filling a gap in the market with authentic business educationBy focusing on valuable content and filling a gap in the market, Hormozi built a large following and made a significant impact in the business education space

      Hormozi's popularity on the Internet and success in business education came from a combination of factors, including his team, timing, and providing genuine, effective advice that resonates with his audience. He attributes his success to filling a void in the market for authentic business education from individuals with substantial business experience. Hormozi's content has led to real results for his followers, creating a loyal fanbase. He didn't set out with a specific plan to become popular on the Internet but rather focused on providing valuable information and growing organically. The key takeaway is that by focusing on creating valuable content and filling a gap in the market, Hormozi was able to build a large following and make a significant impact in the business education space.

    • From Anonymity to Influence: Learning from the Success StoriesConsistently producing content, even if not every piece reaches a large audience, is crucial for growth and discovering one's unique voice.

      Success often comes with unwanted attention and hard work. The speaker shared how they once aimed for wealth and anonymity, but were inspired by notable figures like Kylie Jenner, Conor McGregor, and Huda Beauty, who achieved massive success and wealth through their influence. Feeling insufficient, the speaker was motivated by Barack Obama's perspective that the impact he wanted to make was worth the price of fame. Realizing he was holding back by not producing content, the speaker started to put out more videos, learned from feedback, and developed his voice. The key takeaway is that quantity and consistency in content creation are essential, even if not every piece will reach a large audience, as it provides valuable feedback and helps in discovering one's unique voice.

    • Creating sustainable content strategyFocus on producing large volume of content early on, refine and increase quality as you progress, understand audience, provide both top-of-funnel and deep content, be transparent about intentions, and aim for sustainable content strategy.

      Creating high-quality content takes time and practice. In the early stages, focusing on producing a large volume of content is essential to learn what resonates with your audience. As you progress, you can begin to refine your content and increase its quality. The speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding your audience and providing both top-of-funnel and deep content to build trust and relationships. Transparency about your intentions and providing valuable information for free can help establish your credibility and brand, even if it means forgoing immediate monetary gains. Ultimately, the goal is to create a sustainable content strategy that balances both quantity and quality. The speaker's success with Chipotle and his transparent intentions disprove the notion that he is a "fake guru" trying to sell information.

    • Giving value first leads to successFocus on providing value to build a strong fanbase, which can eventually lead to financial success. Criticize formal education for being outdated and overpriced, but be cautious of alternative education providers.

      The speaker believes in providing value and giving away as much as possible in the marketplace, rather than focusing solely on making money. He argues that this approach can lead to building a strong fanbase and eventually result in financial success. The speaker also criticizes the formal education system for being outdated and overpriced, and sees the rise of alternative education as a response to this demand for more accessible and affordable income-generating skills. However, he warns that not all alternative education providers are legitimate, and the industry still needs to establish trust and high standards.

    • Unmet expectations in formal and alternative educationAuthenticity and setting realistic expectations are essential for building trust and value in education.

      The issue with both formal education and alternative education lies in the unmet expectations. While formal education may promise a degree but not guarantee employment or skills, alternative education may overpromise results and fail to deliver. The authenticity and legitimacy of the education source are also crucial factors. A person with a good intent and proven expertise can teach valuable skills, but the problem arises when they make unrealistic promises or fail to deliver on them. For instance, Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney, could sell a course on his leadership lessons without issue, but he would avoid making unrealistic promises about students becoming CEOs themselves. Ultimately, the education industry needs to focus on setting and meeting realistic expectations and maintaining authenticity to build trust and value for learners.

    • Providing value upfront builds trust but personalized implementation and accountability matter tooOffering both free resources and paid implementation services caters to a wider audience and creates a win-win business model

      Providing value upfront can help build trust with customers, but there is still a demand for personalized implementation and accountability. The fitness industry serves as an example, where the fundamentals may be simple (eat less, move more), but the execution can be challenging. People may be willing to pay for assistance in navigating the nuances of their specific situation, avoiding common pitfalls, and ensuring progress. This promise of accountability and personalization exists in various industries, from technology to gardening. While some may choose to learn on their own through free resources, others prefer the guidance and support of an expert. Ultimately, offering both free resources and paid implementation services can cater to a wider audience and create a win-win business model.

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