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    Why is the US sending troops back to Somalia?

    enMay 17, 2022

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    • Instacart's quick delivery prioritizes convenience for customersInstacart ensures quick delivery, allowing customers to order groceries from home even during events, while military analysis reveals the ineffectiveness of rotating troops for training purposes in Somalia

      Instacart prioritizes convenience for its customers, allowing them to order groceries from the comfort of their homes without missing out on important events like watching a game. This was highlighted during the discussion when it was mentioned that Instacart ensures quick delivery, even in as little as 30 minutes. On a different note, the military analysis part of the podcast shed light on the recent deployment of troops back to Somalia after their withdrawal in late 2020. The troops were initially sent back due to the increasing threat posed by the rebel group Al-Shabaab. However, the rotation strategy implemented to train Somali forces was found to be ineffective and inefficient, leading to the decision to reposition the troops back in Somalia permanently.

    • U.S. Sends Special Forces Back to Somalia for Training MissionThe U.S. is deploying Special Forces to Somalia to strengthen ties with local forces, gather intel, and counter Al-Shabaab's threat, a militant group seeking to establish an Islamic State in Somalia and posing a risk to international trade and U.S. interests.

      The U.S. is sending back a few hundred Special Operations Forces to Somalia for a training mission, aiming to strengthen the relationship with Somali forces, gather intelligence, and counter the threat posed by Al-Shabaab. Al-Shabaab, an African militant group with around 6,000 to 10,000 fighters, seeks to establish an Islamic State in Somalia based on Wahhabism. If successful, it could attract broader terrorist groups and become a significant threat to Africa and the U.S. Al-Shabaab is not only a threat to the Somali government but also engages in piracy and attacks international trade off the Somali coast. The U.S. has previously conducted airstrikes against Al-Shabaab targets in Somalia. The cost of this mission is not yet clear. By training and collaborating with Somali forces, the U.S. hopes to better understand the region, Al-Shabaab, and counter their efforts, ultimately contributing to U.S. national security.

    • US military repositioning in Africa: No significant increase in costs or presenceThe recent US military repositioning in Africa involves minimal additional costs and does not signify a larger US military presence on the continent.

      The recent repositioning of US forces in Africa, following President Trump's decision to withdraw some troops, will not result in a significant increase in costs or a larger US military presence on the continent. Instead, the movement of forces between countries like Kenya, Djibouti, and Somalia for training missions has led to additional costs for packing, unpacking, and logistics. However, this is not an additional commitment of US forces, but rather a repositioning of existing forces. Military analyst Jeff McCoslin confirmed that the increased costs would be nominal.

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    02:48 - Interview begins
    04:00 - Unusual beginning at the CIA
    09:40 - On the ground in Greneda
    13:36 - Growing up and focus on the CIA
    17:29 - Underachiever to Multitasker
    19:20 - OSS Society Conversation Ad
    20:22 - Time in the Army
    23:48 - Serving along side Vietnam Soldiers
    27:21 - Advantage of Special Forces training to CIA
    29:03 - Chance encounter with Gina Haspel
    30:34 - Homebased and the Covert Action Program
    34:41 - Afghanistan Covert Action Program Officer
    39:28 - 4Patriots
    40:47 - Stalemate in Afghanistan
    41:43 - Plan to infiltrate Afghanistan
    45:00 - Secret partners
    45:48 - Escalation against the Soviets
    50:10 - Soviet withdrawl from Afghanistan
    53:38 - A covert mission
    56:17 - Afghanistan war post 9/11
    01:01:13 - Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations, Low Intensity Conflicts, and Interdependent Capabilities 
    01:07:30 - The Drone Program
    01:12:02 - On the ground in Pakistan
    01:13:53 - Secretary of Intel
    01:17:52 - A challenging mission
    01:21:42 - Building confidence in the Bin Laden raid
    01:29:49 - Sentimental items
    01:31:03 - Do it all again
    01:31:53 - Plan B
    01:33:02 -  Listener comments and shout outs