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    Will investors benefit from Woodford being axed and what happens next?

    enOctober 18, 2019

    Podcast Summary

    • The Fall of Neil Woodford's Investment EmpireThe fall of Neil Woodford's investment empire serves as a reminder of the risks associated with large funds and the importance of a fund manager sticking to their stated investment strategy. A mass exodus of investors and lack of diversification can lead to significant losses.

      Neil Woodford, a renowned UK fund manager, saw his investment empire crumble after his fund, Woodford Equity Income, plummeted from a peak value of over £10 billion to just £3.7 billion. This decline led to a mass exodus of investors, leaving Woodford to sell off large shares of his portfolio to meet redemption requests. The resulting sell-off caused the fund to continue plummeting, eventually leading to its closure in June 2019. The incident serves as a reminder of the risks associated with large funds and the importance of a fund manager sticking to their stated investment strategy. It also highlights the potential consequences of a mass exodus of investors and the importance of diversification in an investment portfolio.

    • Neil Woodford's Fund Closure: A Perfect Storm of EventsMassive investor withdrawals, underperformance during closure, and loss of investor confidence led to Neil Woodford's fund closure. Ironically, some of his riskier bets might still pay off, but the damage was already done.

      Neil Woodford's underperformance and the subsequent closure of his fund were likely the result of a perfect storm of events, including massive withdrawals of investor funds, underperformance during the fund's closure, and a lack of confidence in Woodford's ability to rebound. The irony lies in the fact that Woodford's bets on riskier companies might yet prove to be correct, as some of these companies have seen a bounce in share prices following the UK's potential exit from the European Union. However, the damage was already done, and the fund's closure was inevitable given the massive outflows of money and the lack of confidence from investors. Woodford's reputation and business have also taken a hit, with many questioning whether the era of actively managed funds is coming to an end. Despite Woodford's long-term investment track record, the industry is shifting towards passive investing, leaving some to wonder if active fund managers still have a place in the market.

    • Lessons from Neil Woodford's fund collapseInvestors should diversify and not rely on past performance. Even successful funds can experience significant losses. Media and financial institutions should provide balanced information and warnings about risks. Be aware of the risks involved and maintain a well-diversified investment portfolio.

      Investors should always diversify their savings and not put all their eggs in one basket. The recent collapse of Neil Woodford's fund serves as a reminder that past performance is not always indicative of future results, and even the most successful funds can experience significant losses. Additionally, the media and financial institutions have a responsibility to provide balanced information and warnings about the risks involved in investing. The incident has led to criticism towards Hargreaves Lansdown for heavily promoting Woodford's fund, even when signs of trouble emerged. It's essential for investors to be aware of the risks involved and to have a well-diversified investment portfolio. The failure of a fund, no matter how successful it once was, can serve as a learning experience for the future.

    • Transparency doesn't always protect investors from lossesEven transparent funds can have hidden risks, and it's crucial to understand the nature of investments before investing.

      Transparency does not always protect investors from significant losses. Neil Woodford, a well-known figure in the financial world, made his investment strategy clear and publicly disclosed his fund's holdings. However, when the value of his fund plummeted, many investors, who believed they were investing in a stable income fund, suffered losses. The issue was that Woodford had a substantial portion of his fund invested in riskier companies, which became a problem when market conditions changed. Despite the transparency, investors were misled due to the perceived stability of the fund. The press played a role in promoting Woodford as a steady investment option without questioning his riskier investments. The investment industry as a whole was negatively impacted, as trust in the industry was shaken when investors lost money they believed was safe. Investors should be aware that even transparent funds can have hidden risks, and it's essential to understand the nature of the investments in a fund before investing. It's not just about the fund manager's reputation or past performance, but also the underlying investments and their risks.

    • Lesson from Woodford Fund scandal: Investing requires research and diversificationThe Woodford Fund scandal serves as a reminder that investing involves risks, requires research, and the importance of diversification. Seek advice from trusted sources to make informed decisions.

      The recent Woodford Investment Fund scandal may have given some people the perception that investing in the stock market is a form of gambling. However, this is not the case. Investing requires research, diversification, and a long-term perspective. Woodford's fund failure was a reminder that even experienced fund managers can make mistakes and that investing carries risks. The investment industry itself is also expressing anger and frustration over the situation, as it has undermined trust and may deter potential investors. Despite this, investing remains a worthwhile exercise for those who are willing to do their due diligence and seek advice from trusted sources. The lesson here is to not be afraid to invest but to do so wisely and with a well-diversified portfolio.

    • Don't put all your eggs in one basket - diversify your investmentsInvest wisely by diversifying, avoid large funds, research thoroughly, and consider risks and rewards.

      Diversification is key in investing. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. There's plenty of information available on how to balance your investments between cash, savings, and different levels of risk. The recent Woodford investment crisis serves as a reminder of the potential risks involved in investing, but it shouldn't deter people from investing altogether. The crisis resulted in investors losing significant amounts of money, and the process of unwinding the fund is ongoing. The size of popular funds should also be considered when making investment decisions. Instead of investing in large funds, one could consider investing in smaller investment trusts, which are limited in size and not forced buyers or sellers. Remember to do your own research and question what you're told. Pay attention during times of growth, not just during market downturns. And always consider the potential risks and rewards before investing.

    • Determining retirement income needsUse online calculators to find desired retirement income, start saving early, save regularly, and small contributions can make a big difference over time.

      While some people, like Neil Woodford, may not have to worry about retirement due to their substantial wealth, many others need to save more for their golden years. A recent study by the Pensions and Lifetime Savings Association and Loughborough University revealed that a comfortable retirement income for a single person is £33,000, while for a couple it's £47,500. However, most people find saving for retirement an unsexy and daunting task, often putting it off until it's too late. To help, the study encourages people to use online calculators to determine how much they need to save based on their current pension pot and desired retirement income. The research also highlights that even small contributions, such as an extra 1%, can make a big difference over time, especially when employers match or double employee contributions. So, in short, start saving early and save regularly to secure a comfortable retirement.

    • Making Informed Decisions About PensionsEducation is vital for informed pension decisions. Companies should provide clear information, and individuals must start saving early and adequately to maintain desired retirement lifestyles.

      Education and understanding are key to making informed decisions about pensions. Many people lack the necessary knowledge and are not saving enough for retirement. Companies have a role to play in providing clear information about pensions, including investment options and tax benefits. The growing number of self-employed and freelance workers adds to the complexity, highlighting the need for accessible resources and guidance. The PLSA's report, with its visual representation of retirement lifestyles, is an excellent example of making pension planning more relatable and understandable for the average person. Ultimately, not relying on a state pension and making adequate savings are crucial for maintaining a desired lifestyle in retirement. Regret for not saving enough earlier is a common sentiment, making it essential to start planning and saving as soon as possible.

    • Starting Early is Key to Building a Large Retirement FundInvesting £200 monthly for 45 years with a 5% return can result in a £405,000 pension pot. Wise spending on wine and coins requires research and planning to maximize value.

      Starting early is crucial when it comes to saving for retirement, even if it seems challenging at first. The report suggests that if you invest £200 a month on average over 45 years with a 5% return, you'll end up with a pension pot of £405,000. This might seem like a lot, but it's achievable if you start early and consistently contribute. Another interesting point from the discussion is the price of wine. While it might seem that spending more on a bottle will get you a better wine, the real value lies between £8.13 and £10, according to a study. This is because a significant portion of the price goes towards duty and transportation costs. As for the topic of rare coins, the answer is yes, some quarter designs can be rare and valuable. For instance, the quarters from Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Delaware, South Carolina, Delaware (2015), West Virginia, and New Jersey (2017) mentioned in the reader query could potentially be worth money. However, it's essential to do your research before selling them online to ensure you get a fair price. In summary, saving for retirement and making smart purchases, such as wine and coins, require careful planning and research. By starting early and staying informed, you can make the most of your money and enjoy the fruits of your labor in the future.

    • Fascination with Unique QuartersPeople collect quarters for their unique errors or mistakes, which can significantly increase their value. A single quarter with an extra leaf on it is worth over £100.

      People, even in large countries like the United States, hold a strong interest in collecting coins, despite their abundance. A listener named B. Lewis shared an observation of a woman on the tube searching for unusual quarters, highlighting the fascination people have with these types of stories. While most quarters, which feature eagles and are produced in vast quantities, are not rare, errors or mistakes in the coins can significantly increase their value. For instance, a Wisconsin quarter from 2004 with an extra leaf on the corn kernel is worth over £100. With 5 different designs for each of the 50 states, collectors aim to acquire a complete set, making some quarters more valuable in specific areas. While most quarters are still worth 25 cents, the potential value of error coins can make coin collecting an intriguing and potentially profitable hobby for some.

    • Be truthful when dealing with insurersProviding inaccurate info to insurers could lead to claim denial, higher premiums, or complications. Double-check annual mileage and car records for accuracy before purchasing or renewing policies.

      Honesty is important when dealing with insurance companies. In the story shared, the speaker underestimated their annual mileage when purchasing car insurance, potentially leading to claim denial or higher premiums. Similarly, providing incorrect information about the number of quarters given to George in the anecdote could also have consequences. It's essential to be truthful and accurate when providing information to insurers to avoid any potential issues or misunderstandings. When it comes to car insurance, accurately reporting your annual mileage is crucial. While it might not significantly impact a standard policy, insurers increasingly focus on mileage to offer competitive prices on comparison sites. Providing an inaccurate mileage figure could lead insurers to suspect fraud, potentially invalidating your coverage or resulting in higher premiums. To ensure accuracy, double-check your annual mileage before purchasing a policy. If you find yourself approaching or exceeding your stated mileage, contact your insurer to discuss your options. In most cases, they may simply adjust your policy to reflect the updated mileage, but it's essential to be transparent to avoid any potential complications. Moreover, the ease of accessing information, such as MOT history, makes it simple to verify car-related details. Always double-check these records to ensure accuracy and avoid any potential misunderstandings or issues with insurers.

    • Maintaining Accurate Car RecordsHonesty and accurate records are crucial for car insurance and personal interest. Insurers can access this info online, so be truthful about mileage.

      Keeping accurate records of your car's history, including mileage, is important for various reasons, such as insurance and personal interest. You can look up your car's history using its registration number, and car insurers are increasingly able to access this information online. It's important to be honest about your car's mileage, as insurers may check this information. Additionally, if you have any questions or need assistance with money matters, you can contact This is Money for advice. The discussion also touched upon Lee's experience of taking paternity leave and returning to work. Overall, the key takeaway is the importance of maintaining accurate records and being honest about them, particularly when it comes to car ownership and insurance.

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