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    Will they ever get tired of walking backwards? Kicking the Brits out, Part 2

    enAugust 29, 2024
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    • Northern Ireland sectarianismDespite claims of unity, deep-rooted sectarianism and division in Northern Ireland hinder progress towards a united and inclusive vision, with actions of some political leaders, like the DUP, perpetuating the problem and pushing young people further away from a United Ireland.

      Despite claims of inclusivity and unity, actions speak louder than words. The Northern Ireland sports minister, Gordon Lyons, has declined to attend a single GAA game in the North, despite his position, and the DUP's alleged close ties with loyalist paramilitaries. This highlights the deep-rooted sectarianism and division in Northern Ireland, which continues to hinder progress towards a united and inclusive vision. The DUP's resistance to change and their self-defeating actions, such as the recent recruitment drive for the Orange Order, will only push young people further away and delay the inevitable goal of a United Ireland.

    • Irish religious affiliations shiftHistorically, the Catholic Church's power and influence led to a significant decrease in Orange Order membership in Ireland from 120,000 to 12, reflecting a shift in religious affiliations.

      The power and influence of the Catholic Church in Ireland, particularly during historical times, led to a significant shift in religious affiliations, with many Protestant families converting to Catholicism. This was evident in the 1980s when the number of Orange Order members in the north dropped dramatically from 120,000 to just 12. The Orange Order, a Protestant fraternal organization, once had a significant presence in Ireland, but its influence has waned significantly. The oath sworn upon joining the Orange Order includes promises to not marry or sponsor a Roman Catholic, reflecting the deep-rooted sectarianism of the past. However, it's important to note that the Catholic Church also did a lot of good in Ireland, but it has an awful lot to answer for regarding this sectarianism. Today, there are efforts to revive the past supremacy, but the drastic decline in Orange Order membership suggests that times have changed.

    • Casement Park, Northern IrelandConstruction of Casement Park in Northern Ireland for Euro 2024 could bring economic benefits and unity, but it doesn't directly address underlying structural issues and poverty.

      There is a significant push to build Casement Park in Northern Ireland for the Euro 2024 soccer tournament, which could bring substantial economic benefits and help normalize the region. The project has widespread support within the unionist community, despite some opposition. This development could be a powerful symbol of hope and unity, especially as it coincides with the 30th anniversary of the Good Friday Agreement. However, it's important to remember that while such projects can create positive emotions and boost tourism, they don't directly address the underlying structural issues and poverty in the country. Overall, the potential construction of Casement Park represents an opportunity to create something meaningful and uplifting for Northern Ireland, but it's just one piece of the puzzle in addressing the region's challenges.

    • Irish language policy oppositionUnionist loyalist opposition to Irish language policy reveals fear of losing identity and lack of strategic vision, despite progress in Northern Ireland peace process

      The implementation of a new Irish language policy in Belfast has been met with strong opposition from the unionist loyalist community, with some expressing racist sentiments towards asylum seekers. This opposition is seen as a sign of anger and a shrinking community, and the Unionist loyalist community is described as being lost and lacking a strategic vision for progress. The DUP and UUP, the main unionist parties, have opposed the policy, labeling it as radical and divisive, despite it being a step forward for community relations and plurality in the North. The wider nationalist community, including the Alliance Party, is urged to keep moving forward and avoid engaging with racism and hate speech. The Unionist loyalist community's resistance to change is attributed to their fear of losing their identity and being seen as making progress. The peace process and transformation in the North are acknowledged, but more progress is needed, particularly in making the PSNI more reflective of all communities. The Unionist loyalist community's inability to adapt and move forward is compared to the sinking Titanic, unable to avoid the iceberg ahead.

    • Northern Ireland Ceasefire EuphoriaThe 1994 IRA ceasefire brought hope for peace in Northern Ireland, widely supported in Catholic community, but didn't hold until 1998, marked by hunger strikes and relief for opportunity to move towards normal life

      The 1994 IRA ceasefire brought about a sense of euphoria and hope for peace in Northern Ireland, despite unionist suspicions. This was due to the long-standing desire for an end to the violent cycle and the realization that there was a substantial number of people who wanted peace. The ceasefire was widely supported in the Catholic community, leading to celebrations, but it wasn't universally accepted in votes at that stage. The hunger strikes marked a breakthrough, and the ceaseless fear of violence made the prospect of peace universally appealing. However, the ceasefire didn't hold, and it took until 1998 for the peace process to be signed. Despite the occasional dissident atrocities, the overwhelming sentiment was relief and the opportunity to move towards a normal life.

    • Northern Ireland CeasefireThe Northern Ireland Ceasefire was a significant moment of liberation for the community, marking an end to decades of violence and conflict, and brought genuine hope and excitement for a better future.

      The ceasefire in Northern Ireland was a significant moment of exhilaration and liberation for the community, marking an end to decades of violence and conflict. Contrary to the negative stereotypes propagated by the media, the community was not a collection of primal, sectarian savages, but rather a well-educated and strong community yearning for peace and a better future. The ceasefire was a victory for society, not a triumph for one side over the other, and the rapid implementation of new government structures and a police force brought genuine hope and excitement. Despite the challenges and suspicions that arose during the negotiations, the use of creative ambiguity in the language of the agreement allowed it to move forward and bring about lasting peace.

    • Identity and Liberties in Northern IrelandThe peace process in Northern Ireland was embraced differently by the nationalist and unionist communities due to their contrasting desires and perceptions of the Irish language and the Good Friday Agreement as threats to their identity and liberties.

      The peace process in Northern Ireland was embraced overwhelmingly by the nationalist community due to their desire for peace and equality. However, the Unionist community, specifically the DUP, rejected it, leading to tensions. The Irish language and the Good Friday Agreement were perceived as threats to their identity and liberties. The lack of broad political support for the IRA during the conflict was due to the violence and the inability to gain the level of mass support seen in the 1919-1921 War of Independence in the south. The peace process led to a surge in Sinn Fein's vote in the north and south, but the conditions were different due to the absence of a large unionist population in the south. The peace process was celebrated in the south as a clear victory over the British, but in Northern Ireland, it was seen as a necessary step towards ending the conflict and moving forward. The nationalist community fully endorsed the peace process and there is no prospect of returning to the old days of violence.

    • Communication and inclusionEffective communication and inclusion are crucial for peace and conflict resolution, as seen in Northern Ireland's peace process, where dialogue with opposing views led to significant progress, but not everyone was immediately on board, and it took time for acceptance of equality.

      Communication and inclusion are key to achieving peace and resolving conflicts. The speaker's experience from the peace process in Northern Ireland highlights the importance of dialogue, even with those who hold opposing views. The Republican movement's ability to bring the majority of their people together for peace is an extraordinary feat of leadership. However, not everyone was on board, and it took time for some to accept the equality of all parties involved. The speaker emphasizes that shutting people out and refusing to talk, as exemplified by the DUP and Israel's approaches, only perpetuates conflict and suffering. Ultimately, people are the same everywhere, and meaningful dialogue and understanding are essential for progress and peace.

    • Negotiations disruptions in Northern IrelandGeorge Mitchell's authoritative presence was crucial in keeping Northern Ireland peace talks moving forward despite frequent disruptions and walkouts.

      The peace process in Northern Ireland was marked by frequent disruptions and walkouts during negotiations, with George Mitchell's authoritative presence being crucial in keeping things moving forward. The daily occurrence of these disruptions was a challenge, but Mitchell's ability to remain focused and unphased was critical to the eventual success of the peace talks. Additionally, there were comparisons drawn between Gerry Adams and famous impersonators, highlighting the surreal nature of the negotiations at times. Despite the challenges, Sinn Fein, as a political party, continued to deny any involvement in violent campaigns, and tensions remained high throughout the peace process.

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