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    All Else Equal: Making Better Decisions

    Join Stanford GSB finance professor Jonathan Berk and Jules van Binsbergen of The Wharton School in a conversation with prominent business leaders about common flaws in the decision making process and what to do about them. Learn more at AllElseEqualPodcast.com.

    All Else Equal: Making Better Decisions Podcast is a production of Stanford Graduate School of Business and is produced by University FM.

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    Ep24 “When Institutions Cry Wolf” with Jay Bhattacharya

    Ep24 “When Institutions Cry Wolf” with Jay Bhattacharya

    It takes a long time to build up credibility, but you can lose it in an instant. What would it take to justify lying to the public for their own good, and are the benefits worth the costs? In this episode of All Else Equal: Making Better Decisions, hosts and finance professors Jonathan Berk and Jules van Binsbergen discuss the costs and benefits of the government lying to its own citizens.

    They then discuss the topic with Dr. Jay Bhattacharya (Professor of Medicine at Stanford University's Medical School, PhD in Economics, fellow of the Hoover Institution, and associate at the National Bureau of Economic Research) in the context of his prescient research during the COVID pandemic.


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    Ep23 “When Banking Fails” with Amit Seru

    Ep23 “When Banking Fails” with Amit Seru

    The FDIC and Federal Reserve have recently intervened to stop another banking crisis. In this episode of All Else Equal: Making Better Decisions, hosts and finance professors Jonathan Berk and Jules van Binsbergen dig in to see what failed. What causes bank runs? Are the government subsidies of banks worth it? Is a bank the right way to finance risky investments or are they historical artifacts. Their guest Amit Seru, The Steven and Roberta Denning Professor of Finance and Senior Associate Dean for Academic Affairs at Stanford Graduate School of Business, explains what went wrong with the banks in Silicon Valley, and why regulators seemed to have missed the boat.


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    Ep22 “How Do You Know If Your Marketing Dollars Are Working?” with Florian Zettelmeyer

    Ep22 “How Do You Know If Your Marketing Dollars Are Working?” with Florian Zettelmeyer

    Note: if you are hearing the wrong audio try redownloading the episode or listen here.

    What reach does marketing really have? In the murky waters of cause and effect marketers have to figure out where to put their resources and what impact they can make on consumers. In this episode of All Else Equal: Making Better Decisions, hosts and finance professors Jonathan Berk and Jules van Binsbergen talk about how to measure the impact advertising has, and how not to measure it. They then discuss with Florian Zettelmeyer (the Nancy L. Ertle Professor of Marketing at the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University) about why measuring the effects of marketing is so tricky, some mistakes that have been made in past attempts, and how to avoid them.


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    Ep21 "Disentangling Causation and Correlation" with Guido Imbens

    Ep21 "Disentangling Causation and Correlation" with Guido Imbens

    It can be tempting to think one thing causes another because they happen in succession, but there’s a lot to unwrap in the idea of causality. In this episode of All Else Equal: Making Better Decisions, hosts and finance professors Jonathan Berk and Jules van Binsbergen explain the difference between correlation and causality, and examine cases where it is tempting to assume one thing caused another, but the reality is quite different or even the opposite. They then discuss with Guido Imbens (Nobel Prize Winner and a chaired professor in Economics at the Stanford Graduate School of Business) the revolution in empirical work in economics that he helped start.  


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    Ep20 "Risk and the Fundamental Tradeoff of Corporate Finance"

    Ep20 "Risk and the Fundamental Tradeoff of Corporate Finance"

    Risk is an inherent part of all business decisions and understanding ways this risk can be reduced is essential to succeeding in today’s business environment. In this episode of All Else Equal: Making Better Decisions, hosts and finance professors Jonathan Berk and Jules van Binsbergen explain how to assess risk and discuss smart ways of diversifying it away. But sometimes diversification comes at a cost to productivity and the hosts present this as the fundamental tradeoff of corporate finance.


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    Ep19 “The Future of Money: Central Bank Digital Currency?” with Kevin Warsh

    Ep19 “The Future of Money: Central Bank Digital Currency?” with Kevin Warsh

    Cryptocurrency is increasing in popularity but still confusing to many consumers and finance professionals alike. On this episode of All Else Equal, finance professors Jules van Binsbergen and Jonathan Berk admit they don’t understand why some central banks are introducing digital currencies and why there would be need in our economic system.

    To help answer these questions they speak with Kevin Warsh, a former governor for the Federal Reserve and current Visiting Fellow at the Hoover Institute at the Stanford School of Business. Kevin makes the case for regulating crypto currencies and what that would look like, and says the recent collapse of FTX, the world’s largest crypto currency exchanges, is not an indicator of this being a failing currency. 


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    Ep18 “Investigating Implausible Theories” with John Ioannidis

    Ep18 “Investigating Implausible Theories” with John Ioannidis

    In science, we often hear about new discoveries or theories that could change our way of thinking. In the business world, a start-up might promise a revolution in a specific industry, if it can get the right investments. So, when is it worth believing or betting on one of these new theories, and when is it a waste of time? In this episode of All Else Equal, Jules and Jonathan discuss how we can all use the principle of Occam’s Razor (the idea that the simplest theory is often the correct one) in many different areas of our life.

    Helping them explain the real world practice of this is John Ioannidis, a professor of Medicine and Epidemiology at Stanford University. John was the first academic to question the practices of Theranos, the company co-founded by Elizabeth Holmes that claimed it would change medicine with its new method of testing blood. He criticized the lack of peer reviewed research of the company’s methods, while at the same time investors were making it a billion dollar company. John tells Jules and Jonathan about this experience, as well as how Occam’s Razor comes into play with a lot of scientific research. 


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    Ep17 “Can The Free Market Discourage Fraud?” with Marc Cohodes

    Ep17 “Can The Free Market Discourage Fraud?” with Marc Cohodes

    There’s a negative connotation associated with short selling – the act of betting against a stock to perform well. But is this trading practice truly a bad thing? 

    In this episode of All Else Equal: Making Better Decisions, hosts and finance professors Jonathan Berk and Jules van Binsbergen build the case for short selling as a dynamic regulating force in the free market. And an incentive for individuals to investigate and expose fraud.

    Later in the episode, Jonathan and Jules speak with Marc Cohodes, whose notable short-selling decisions have landed him in hot water with powerful figures all over the world. Cohodes has exposed a series of fraudulent practices – from mortgage lender Novastar to digital finance giant Wirecard, and most recently the cryptocurrency exchange FDX – and shares his view on the role of short sellers to step in where government regulation fails.


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    Ep16 “The Value Of Protecting Unpleasant Speech” with John Paulson

    Ep16 “The Value Of Protecting Unpleasant Speech” with John Paulson

    Freedom of expression is a constitutional right, but it’s also a valuable business strategy. 

    In this episode of All Else Equal: Making Better Decisions, hosts and finance professors Jonathan Berk and Jules van Binsbergen build the case that without freedom of expression within an organization, the competitiveness of the organization will suffer and ultimately be much worse off without a culture that allows for dissenting opinions.

    Later in the episode, Jonathan and Jules speak with John Paulson – whose outside-the-box thinking allowed him to predict the 2008 mortgage crisis before almost anyone else, and to position himself and his clients to gain financially. Paulson’s decision to short mortgage bonds was the subject of Michael Lewis’ book “The Big Short” and a blockbuster film of the same name.


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    Ep15 "Shareholder vs. Stakeholder Capitalism" with Alex Edmans

    Ep15 "Shareholder vs. Stakeholder Capitalism" with Alex Edmans

    Businesses often prioritize shareholder interests to make profit. But this can lead to short-sighted decisions that fail to benefit other stakeholders… right? 

    In this episode of All Else Equal: Making Better Decisions, hosts and finance professors Jonathan Berk and Jules van Binsbergen – and guest Alex Edmans – ask that very question and provide some surprising answers. Whose interests are better aligned with the long-term health of a business: external stakeholders or internal shareholders?

    Alex Edmans is a finance professor at the London Business School. He has written a book on the topic of shareholder versus stakeholder capitalism called “Grow The Pie: How Great Companies Deliver Both Purpose and Profit.”


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    The End of ESG

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    Ep14 “‘A Pound Of Flesh’ And Student Debt” with Sheila Bair

    Ep14 “‘A Pound Of Flesh’ And Student Debt” with Sheila Bair

    President Biden has promised sweeping debt relief to millions of student loan borrowers. In this episode of All Else Equal: Making Better Decisions, hosts and finance professors Jonathan Berk and Jules van Binsbergen discuss the implications of this policy decision and the ways it could influence behavior for both students and educational institutions.

    Later in the episode, Jonathan and Jules call in an expert: Sheila Bair, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury and Chair of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC). Sheila shares her work as a Senior Fellow at the Peter G. Peterson Foundation, where she currently focuses on financial issues confronting young people.


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    Ep13 “Does Regulation Help or Hurt Consumers?” with Maureen Ohlhausen

    Ep13 “Does Regulation Help or Hurt Consumers?” with Maureen Ohlhausen

    Conventional wisdom tells us that we need regulators to ensure quality work in certain professions. But do consumers really benefit as much as they think from government regulation?

    In this episode of All Else Equal: Making Better Decisions, hosts and finance professors Jonathan Berk and Jules van Binsbergen investigate the question: Who does regulation help more, consumers or producers?

    Later in the episode, Jonathan and Jules call in an expert: Maureen Ohlhausen, who chairs the Global Antitrust and Competition Law practice at Baker Botts.


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    Regulation of Charlatans in High-Skill Professions

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    Ep12 "Corporations as Job Security Providers"

    Ep12 "Corporations as Job Security Providers"

    Corporations are often characterized as evil entities that exploit workers. But in fact they enable firms to provide job security and thus serve the important role of minimizing risk for individual employees.

    In this episode of All Else Equal: Making Better Decisions, hosts and finance professors Jonathan Berk and Jules van Binsbergen explore how corporations set employees’ wages based on their job performance while still providing job security by comparing it to an insurance contract. “I think, in fact, you could think of corporations as entities that insure workers,” says Jonathan Berk.

    Also in this episode, Jonathan and Jules talk about bankruptcy, house fires, and why your supervisor hasn’t fired that one annoying coworker who doesn’t do anything.


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    Ep11 "Is Bankruptcy the End?" with Jim Millstein

    Ep11 "Is Bankruptcy the End?" with Jim Millstein

    Does filing for bankruptcy spell the end for a company? Or is there another way to look at corporate financial distress?

    In this episode of All Else Equal: Making better decisions, hosts and finance professors Jonathan Berk and Jules van Binsbergen debunk some myths about Chapter 11 of the United States Bankruptcy Code – and compare the benefits of financing your company with equity or debt. Later, bankruptcy expert Jim Millstein joins the show to talk about corporate restructuring proceedings and the government bailout of General Motors.

    Jim Millstein is the Co-Chairman of Guggenheim Securities, the investment banking and capital markets business of Guggenheim Partners, a global investment and advisory firm. Prior to joining Guggenheim in 2018, Mr. Millstein was the Founder and Chief Executive Officer at Millstein & Co. His representative engagements include providing advice to the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico in connection with the management of its $75 billion of institutional indebtedness; to US Airways in connection with its acquisition of American Airlines out of Chapter 11; and Caesars in its Chapter 11 proceedings.


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    Special Episode: What’s Wrong with Buybacks?

    Special Episode: What’s Wrong with Buybacks?

    Are buybacks bad for business? Should firms buy dividends instead, or just not make payouts?

    In this episode of All Else Equal: Making Better Decisions, hosts and finance professors

    Jonathan Berk and Jules van Binsbergen debunk myths about buybacks. They explain what a

    buyback, or share repurchase, is and why companies choose to use them, as well as the

    implications of the Inflation Reduction Act’s proposal to assess a 1% tax on buybacks.


    All Else Equal: Making Better Decisions is a podcast produced by Stanford Graduate School of

    Business. It is hosted by Jonathan Berk, The A.P. Giannini Professor of Finance at Stanford

    GSB, and Jules van Binsbergen, The Nippon Life Professor in Finance, Professor of Finance, at

    The Wharton School. Each episode provides insight into how to make better decisions.


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    Ep9 "When is a Business Decision a Mistake?" with Hadley Mullin

    Ep9 "When is a Business Decision a Mistake?" with Hadley Mullin

    As leaders, how do we know when we've made a mistake? Is it as simple as evaluating whether the outcome was good or bad? In this episode of All Else Equal: Making better decisions, hosts and finance professors Jonathan Berk and Jules van Binsbergen discuss how risk/reward calculations can help define what is a mistake and what isn't.

    To talk more in depth about this topic, and how owning up to a mistake plays out inside an investment firm, the hosts interview Hadley Mullin. Mullin is a senior partner at TSG Consumer Partners, a private equity firm with approximately $10 billion in assets under management. At her firm, decisions are made collectively – and accountability is shared. "It's not a blame game," Mullin says. "Not focusing on whose deal this is, but referring to it as 'our deal,' makes us better positioned to do an unbiased postmortem."


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    Ep8 "Why Capitalism Works" with John Cochrane

    Ep8 "Why Capitalism Works" with John Cochrane

    Competitive markets don’t produce the same level of prosperity for everyone, but economist John Cochrane thinks they give us something more important — incentives.

    In this episode of All Else Equal: Making Better Decisions, hosts Jules van Binsbergen and Jonathan Berk are joined by John Cochrane, a prominent free-market economist and a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University.

    According to Cochrane, competition gives us the incentives to work, serve the needs of others, and innovate. A system with incentives, he says, “is the only one where we all don't end up worse.”


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    John Cochrane at the Hoover Institute

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    Ep7 "Can Investors Effect Social Change?"

    Ep7 "Can Investors Effect Social Change?"

    How can investors play a part in accomplishing social change? In this episode of All Else Equal: Making Better Decisions, hosts Jules van Binsbergen and Jonathan Berk explore what strategies are available to the social-minded investor.

    When it comes to what’s good for business and what’s good for society, van Binsbergen says, “People really would like to have it both ways.” But as he and Berk explain, it is unlikely that they can.

    The Impact of Impact Investing working paper referenced in this episode. Read more about the pitfalls and promises of ESG on Stanford GSB's website.


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    Ep6 "Can (and Should) Corporations Be Taxed?" with Larry Summers

    Ep6 "Can (and Should) Corporations Be Taxed?" with Larry Summers

    In this episode, hosts Jules van Binsbergen and Jonathan Berk discuss the complexities of the corporate income tax with former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers, who argues for retaining the tax.

    Summers explains why taxing corporations is one of the most effective tools the federal government has in making sure the wealthy pay their fair share. Might there be room for improvement? Yes, Summers says, but don’t abolish it. “Before we are critical of that tax, we better make awfully sure that we have a superior alternative.”


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    Ep5 "Why You Can't 'Agree to Disagree" with Robert Aumann

    Ep5 "Why You Can't 'Agree to Disagree" with Robert Aumann

    "The reason people disagree is because they're striving toward a different goal," says mathematician and Nobel Prize winner Robert Aumann. In this episode of All Else Equal, Aumann sits down with finance professors and podcast hosts Jonathan Berk and Jules van Binsbergen.

    "If there's a disagreement in the room at the end of a discussion, someone in the room is making a mistake," says Berk.


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