Application Security Weekly (Audio)

The need for vuln management programs has been around since the first bugs -- but lots of programs remain stuck in the past. We talk about the traps to avoid in VM programs, the easy-to-say yet hard-to-do foundations that VM programs need, and smarter ways to approach vulns based in modern app development. We also explore the ecosystem of acronyms around vulns and figure out what's useful (if anything) in CVSS, SSVC, EPSS, and more.

Segment resources:

• https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/patch-management-needs-a-revolution-part-1
• https://next.redhat.com/blog/
• https://www.first.org/cvss/v4-0/
• https://www.first.org/epss/
• https://deadliestwebattacks.com/appsec/2010/02/19/primordial-cross-site-scripting-xss-exploits -- For a bit of history, one of the earliest "bugs bounty" from 1995.

A SilverSAML example similar to the GoldenSAML attack technique, more about serializing AI models for Hugging Face, OWASP releases 1.0 of the IoT Security Testing Guide, the White House releases more encouragement to move to memory-safe languages, and more!

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Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-275

Farshad Abasi joins us again to talk about creating a new OWASP project, the Secure Pipeline Verification Standard. (Bonus points for not being a top ten list!) We talk about what it takes to pitch a new project and the problems that this new project is trying to solve. For this kind of project to be successful -- as in making a positive impact to how software is built -- it's important to not only identify the right audience, but craft guidance in a way that's understandable and achievable for that audience. This is also a chance to learn more about a project in its early days and the opportunities for participating in its development!

Segment resources

• https://github.com/OWASP/www-project-secure-pipeline-verification-standard--spvs- (coming soon!)

PrintListener recreates fingerprints, iMessage updates key handling for a PQ3 rating, Silent Sabotage shows supply chain subterfuge against AI models, 2023 Rust survey results, the ways genAI might help developers, and more!

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Check out this interview from the ASW Vault, hand picked by main host Mike Shema! This segment was originally published on Dec 13, 2022.

Threat modeling is an important part of a security program, but as companies grow you will choose which features you want to threat model or become a bottleneck. What if I told you, you can have your cake and eat it too. It is possible to scale your program and deliver higher quality threat models.

Segment Resources: - Original blog: https://segment.com/blog/redefining-threat-modeling/ - Open Sourced slides: https://github.com/segmentio/threat-modeling-training

Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/vault-asw-8

We've been scanning code for decades. Sometimes scanning works well -- it finds meaningful flaws to fix. Sometimes it distracts us with false positives. Sometimes it burdens us with too many issues. We talk about finding a scanning strategy that works well and what the definition of "works well" should even be.

Segment Resources:

• https://www.lacework.com/blog/introducing-a-new-approach-to-code-security/

LLMs improve fuzzing coverage, the Shim vuln threatens Linux secure boot, considering AI application threat models, a new language for a configuration file format, and more!

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We can't talk about OWASP without talking about lists, but we go beyond the lists to talk about a product security framework. Grant shares his insights on what makes lists work (and not work). More importantly, he shares the work he's doing to spearhead a new OWASP project to help scale the creation of appsec programs, whether you're on your own or part of a global org.

Segment Resources:

• https://owasp.org/www-project-product-security-capabilities-framework/
• https://github.com/OWASP/pscf
• https://prods.ec/
• https://owaspsamm.org
• https://iso25000.com/index.php/en/iso-25000-standards/iso-25010
• https://www.scmagazine.com/podcast-episode/application-security-weekly-242

Qualys discloses syslog and qsort vulns in glibc, Apple's jailbroken iPhone for security researchers, moving away from OpenSSL, what an ancient vuln in image parsing can teach us today, and more!

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We return to the practice of presentations, this time with a perspective from a conference organizer. And we have tons of questions! What makes a topic stand out? How can an old, boring topic be given new life? How do you prepare as a first-time presenter? What can conferences do to foster better presentations and new voices?

Segment resources:

• https://bsidessf.org
• https://infosec.exchange/@worldwise001/111280163638514582
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lVIeh5f4Rg

Vulns in Jenkins code and Cisco devices that make us think about secure designs, MiraclePtr pulls off a relatively quick miracle, code lasts while domains expire, an "Artificial Intelligence chip" from the 90s, and more!

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Where apps provide something of value, bots are sure to follow. Modern threat models need to include scenarios for bad bots that not only target user credentials, but that will also hoard inventory and increase fraud. Sandy shares her recent research as we talk about bots, API security, and what developers can do to deal with these.

Segment resources

• https://www.forrester.com/blogs/avoid-a-bot-waterloo/
• https://www.forrester.com/blogs/are-your-bot-management-tools-up-to-date-to-handle-the-holiday-season/

In the news, vulns throw a wrench in a wrench, more vulns drench Atlassian, vulns send GitLab back to the design bench, voting for the top web hacking techniques of 2023, and more!

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It's time to start thinking about CFPs and presentations for 2024! Eve shares advice on delivering technical topics so that an audience can understand the points you want to make. Then we show how developing these presentation skills for conferences helps with presentations within orgs and why these are useful skills to build for your career.

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We kick off the new year with a discussion of what we're looking forward to and what we're not looking forward to. Then we pick our favorite responses to "appsec in three words" and set our sights on a new theme for 2024.

In the news, 23andMe shifts blame to users for poor password practices, abusing Google's OAuth2 through a MultiLogin endpoint, Rustls is memory safe and fast, AI enters OSINT, and more!

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Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-268

HTTP RFCs have evolved: A Cloudflare view of HTTP usage trends, Career Advice and Professional Development, Active Exploitation of Confluence CVE-2022-26134

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We will provide a short introduction to OWASP SAMM, which is a flagship OWASP project allowing organizations to bootstrap and iteratively improve their secure software practice in a measurable way. Seba will explain the SAMM model, consisting of 15 security practices. Every security practice contains a set of activities, structured into 3 maturity levels. The activities on a lower maturity level are typically easier to execute and require less formalization than the ones on a higher maturity level. A the end we will cover how you can engage with the SAMM community and provide an overview of what happened at our latest SAMM User Day which happened on May 27th.

Segment Resources:

• https://owaspsamm.org/

• https://github.com/OWASPsamm

• https://app.slack.com/client/T04T40NHX/C0VF1EJGH

-https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEZDbvQrj5APg5cEET49A_g

• https://twitter.com/OwaspSAMM

• https://www.linkedin.com/company/18910344/admin/

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Service meshes create the opportunity to make security a team sport. They can improve observability and service identity. Turning monoliths into micro services sounds appealing, but maybe not every monolith needs to be broken up. We'll also talk about the maturity and design choices that go into service meshes and when a monolith should just remain a monolith.

Segment Resources:

• https://www.solo.io/blog/kubernetes-security-cloud-native-applications/
• https://www.solo.io/blog/apis-data-breach-zero-trust/
• https://www.solo.io/blog/api-gateways-productivity-resilience-security-cloud-applications/

In the news, Nagios gets a review from NCC Group, hackers hack some anti-fixing code to fix trains in Poland, abusing OAuth post-compromise, 5Ghoul flaws in 5G networks, MITRE teases a new threat model for embedded systems, a conversation on vuln scoring systems, and more!

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Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-267

We have a lot of questions about standards. How do standards emerge? How do standards encourage adoption? How do they stay relevant as development patterns change and security threats evolve?

We have standards for web appsec (HTML, HTTP), all sorts of protocols, and all sorts of authentication (OAuth, OpenID). Learning how these standards come about can also inform how your own org documents designs and decisions.

Segment resources

• https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc3552
• https://identiverse.com/video/the-butterfly-effect-of-standards-development/
• https://sphericalcowconsulting.com
• https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6919

In the news, benchmarking prompt injection scanners, using generative AI to jailbreak generative AI, Meta's benchmark for LLM risks, tapping a protocol to hack Magic the Gathering, and more!

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Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-266

We cover appsec news on a weekly basis, but sometimes that news is merely about the start of a new project, sometimes it's yet another example of a vuln class, and sometimes it's a topic we hope doesn't become a trend.

So, what themes have we seen and where do we see them going? Here are a few headline topics that have alternately generated yays and yawns.

• CISA's Secure by Design and Secure by Default
• CVSS 4.0
• Generative AI
• MFA mandates
• Microsoft, Rust, and Memory Safety
• New TLDs
• OAuth
• OpenSSF and OWASP

In the news, repetition extracts data from ChatGPT, more vulns in the software that surrounds AI, guidelines for secure AI, LogoFAIL trips a boot, BLUFFS attack on Bluetooth, CISA's first secure by design alert, Okta's updated breach disclosure, and more!

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This year we've talked about vulns, clouds, breaches, presentations, and all the variations of Dev, Sec, and Ops. As we end the year, let's talk about starting things -- like starting an appsec program or an appsec career. But is there still a need for an appsec team? Or has it turned into specializations for areas like cloud security and bug bounty programs? We'll cover careers and coding, with an eye towards figuring out what modern software development looks like and where application (or product!) security fits in that model.

Segment resources

• https://owaspsamm.org
• https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security/blog/2023/11/02/announcing-microsoft-secure-future-initiative-to-advance-security-engineering/
• https://www.cisa.gov/resources-tools/resources/secure-by-design

Weak randomness in old JavaScript crypto, lack of encryption in purported end-to-end encryption, a platform engineering maturity model, PyPI's first security audit, vision for a Rust specification, and more!

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Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-264

Firmware security is complex and continues to be an industry challenge. In this podcast we'll talk about the reasons firmware security remains a challenge and some best practices around platform security.

Segment Resources:

• https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2020/04/27/firmware-blind-spots/

• https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2020/09/28/hardware-security-challenges/

• https://darkreading.com/application-security/4-open-source-tools-to-add-to-your-security-arsenal

• https://chipsec.github.io

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In the rapidly evolving landscape of application security, 2023 brought significant changes with the rise of generative AI tools and an increase in automated threats. In this discussion, Karl Triebes takes a deep dive into the major trends of the past year, examining their impact on the industry and shedding light on what security professionals can anticipate moving forward into 2024.

This segment is sponsored by Imperva. Visit https://securityweekly.com/imperva to learn more about them!

CNCF's releases a handbook on fuzzing, OpenSSF and OWASP respond to CISA's Open Source Software Security RFI, 14 years of Go, lessons for today from an internet worm from 35 years ago, and more!

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Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-263

A lot of appsec conferences have presentations for appsec audiences -- but that's not often the group that's building apps. What if more developer conferences had appsec content? We talk with Josh about security from the developer's point of view, both as an audience hearing about it and as a presenter talking about it. We discuss the importance of knowing your audience and finding the hooks in security tools and topics that can resonate with developers.

Segment resources:

• https://www.joshuakgoldberg.com/speaking/

Details of the Citrix Bleed vuln, exploitation of the Atlassian improper authorization vuln, so many jQuery installations to upgrade, the price of bounties and the cost of fixes, Microsoft's Secure Future Initiative, and more!

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The categories of security tools that we're most familiar with have struggled to keep up with how modern apps are designed and what modern devs need. What if instead of being beholden to categories, we created tools that solved problems devs have today in the types of apps they build today? And what if we had more dev leadership to influence security tools as well as secure by design? What would that leadership look like?

Segment Resources:

• https://danondev.com/youtube

In the news, OAuth implementation failures, the State of DevOps report, data poisoning generative AIs with Nightshade, implementing spectre attacks with JavaScript and WebAssembly against WebKit, sandboxing apps

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We return to discussions of OAuth and all sorts of authentication. This time around we're looking at the design of authentication protocols, the kinds of trade-offs they weigh for adoption and security, and how a standard evolves over time to keep pace with new attacks and put to rest old mistakes.

Segment resources:

• https://fusionauth.io/docs/v1/tech/core-concepts/modes
• https://webauthn.wtf/
• https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7636
• https://www.ietf.org/about/participate/tao/

In the news, appsec lessons from the Okta breach, directory traversal (and appsec) lessons from SolarWinds, how CISOs and Boards rank factors around vulns and patching, revisiting cryptocurrency attacks for lessons in business logic and threat modeling, CISA and friends update guidance on Secure Design, and more!

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Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-260