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    What it takes to launch a SaaS

    What it takes to launch a SaaS

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    THE FEAR

    THE FEAR

    Jon and Justin talk about "optionality" in bootstrapping. (Justin is concerned, Jon thinks we should just enjoy the moment).

    • DHH: "Part of what gave us the confidence to turn down the whole world of venture capital was a small sale of equity to Jeff Bezos. That gave our personal bank accounts just enough ballast that the big numbers touted by VCs and acquisition hunters lost their lure."
    • Are we at peak podcasting? Things are good right now - will they be good for 10 years? 20 years? 
    • Fred Wilson: "Taking money off the table."
    • How much did the founders of Buffer, Robinhood, etc. take off the table? Article.
    • Des Traynor: "A founder is spending 60 months of their best years in their startup (instead of their career). That is a substantial upfront investment; it's like a seed round, but instead of money, it's your life."
    • How much richer than us is Jeff Bezos?

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    Do you really need to build an audience?

    Do you really need to build an audience?

    Late-summer update! This week on the program, we bring you a super spicy interview that Justin did on the TechZing podcast.

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    Break out

    Break out

    Mid-summer update! This week on the program, Justin and Jon talk about:

    • If you're bootstrapping SaaS, how many monthly trials do you need?
    • Tweet: "You probably need more trials than you think."
    • Breaking out of your own way of thinking
    • "All it took was someone talking to me to have a different way of thinking about it."

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    Talking about an acquisition

    Talking about an acquisition

    This week on the program, Justin and Jon talk about:

    • Updates on Transistor: new API is almost done, static site generator, growth slowed in June?
    • Questioning whether we should slow down for the summer
    • Talking about the Simplecast acquisition
      • What would sell for? Mike: “Anything that’s a life-changing amount.”

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    It's just too much

    It's just too much

    This week on the program, Justin and Jon talk about:

    • A friend, whose SaaS has grown 300% since the beginning of the quarantine. They just hit $6k in MRR.
    • At that stage, he's in the "almost but not yet."
    • You're either:
      • Brainstorming how to make money faster
      • Brainstorming how to work less
    • Different stages:
      • Pre-launch stage: you're working on your product on the side. It's fun! There's nothing stealing your time and attention because you don't have customers yet.
      • The beta stage: still pretty fun! You have a few customers who are using your product, and maybe paying you money.
      • The "launched" stage: now, you have way more users. Now you're doing way more customer support, responding to feature requests.
    • How much did we work when we were building Transistor?
      • Jon figures we spent 45 to 60 hours a week (each).
    • Jason Calacanis’ tweet: "It takes 100 hours per week to build a business!"
    • “Good businesses have margin."
    • Josh Wood: "At Honeybadger, we work 30 hours per week."
    • Margin gives you the opportunity, as a founder, to live beyond your keyboard. To engage with the world.
    • Sandy Hudson (Sandra & Nora podcast): "The quarantine gave people the time and space to wrestle with the current moment."
    • The Dept of Veteran Affairs
    • "As your little baby Rails app grows up, you can't just run everything on the same service."
    • "The whole internet is just patchwork of pipes and duct tape." 

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    ★ Bootstrapper shout-out of the week:

    • LessAccounting
    • https://www.lessaccounting.com/
    • Cloud base accounting software and services for non-accountants. This used to be owned by Allan Branch (Paul Kogan owns it now). It’s specifically designed for small businesses with 1-25 employees and contractors

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    Waking up

    Waking up

    Structural racism affects every part of the economic system. It affects bootstrappers too! It defines:

    • Who we hire
    • Who we invest in
    • Who we promote
    • Who we chat with
    • Who sees our numbers
    • Who we invite to speak
    • Who gets access to our platform
    "It's not just about being oppressed or being an oppressor, it's about resisting oppression and resisting being an oppressor; being an ally, being an advocate for social justice." – Dr. Beverly Daniel Tatum (clip)

    Right now, in cities across America, people are protesting systemic violence and oppression against Black people.

    We (Jon and Justin) are waking up to how complicit we are in the system. We're seeing our privilege. We're humbled and motivated by the words of Dr. Erin Thomas:

    "You can directly impact the extent to which your organization counters historical inequity, inequality & injustice."

    The bootstrapping, SaaS, and startup ecosystems need to wrestle with these issues.

    "How can you help? By working to dismantle a system of racism from which you reap the benefits. If you are not working to do that then you don’t actually want to help." – Kristina Daniels

    Instead of Patreon shout outs, we're shouting out these causes:

    Want to take the next step?

    Things to read, listen to, and watch:

    This podcast was recorded on June 4, 2020.

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    Why there's no episode today

    Why there's no episode today

    👋 Justin here. This episode is to let you know why there's no episode today. (I've had a few DMs from folks that were worried!)

    We're good; we had some server trouble this morning that took all our time and attention today. We're hoping to be back next Tuesday with a full episode.

    Thanks everyone; we appreciate your support! ✌️

    Special thanks to Dean Layton James, from CloudPeriscope and Benedikt Evans from UserList for giving us ideas on how to fix our issues today! ❤️

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    ★ Bootstrapper shout-out of the week:

    • SeekWell.io
    • "Send SQL (MySQL, Postgres, Snowflake, Redshift, and SQL Server) to Google Sheets, Excel, Slack, or email"

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    Building software for 2030

    Building software for 2030

    This week on the program, Justin and Jon talk about:

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    ★ Bootstrapper shout-out of the week:

    • ScrapingBee
    • "A web-scraping API that takes care of proxies and headless browsing for you so you'll never get blocked again while scraping."
    • Used by companies like SAP and Zapier!

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    • Michael Sitver
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    Simon is going full-time

    Simon is going full-time

    This week on the program:

    • As requested, we're going to start highlighting our listeners who are building their own SaaS.
    • This week: Simon Bennett, a long-time Patreon supporter and a friend of the show.
    • He just went full time on his project https://snapshooter.io, which does automatic backups for Digital Ocean. 
    • Simon had just put his kids to bed (he's in the UK) and sat down in his office to have a chat with Justin.

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    • Austin Loveless
    • Michael Sitver
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    They stole our idea!

    They stole our idea!

    What do you do when a competitor steals your idea? (plus: Justin and Jon have the giggles).

    • People in tech get bent out of shape about who owns certain ideas, UI patterns, and business models.
      • “They ripped off my idea”
      • "They copied us!"
    • This blog post by Justin Mitchell:
    • Good Stackexchange thread:
      • “In the history of science, this is known as "Railroad time". I.e, when the economy has reached a certain state of infrastructure (coal, steel, and land available, plus steam engines and demand for transportation), it's "Railroad time", and the idea of building railroads occurs to many people naturally at the same time.”
    • Documentary: https://www.generalmagicthemovie.com/
    • Multiple discovery (simultaneous invention): “the hypothesis that most scientific discoveries and inventions are made independently and more or less simultaneously by multiple scientists and inventors”
    • Synchronicity: “the simultaneous occurrence of events which appear significantly related but have no discernible causal connection.”
    • Collective consciousness.
    • How to respond if a competitor rips of your idea: 
      • Paul Jarvis tweet: "fathom copycats pop up so often that i've lost count. we honestly don't mind them... they STOKE THE FIRE 🔥 to make our product even better."
    • Hedge against the competition:
      • Build your brand: the way people perceive your company; how “top of mind” are you?
      • Build your audience: competitors can't easily replicate who you know, and who knows you.
      • Customer service: how well you take care of people; how responsive you are
      • Continued product improvement: you don’t have to be the most novel; you just have to show continuous improvement in vectors that customers care about.
      • Last longer than your competition: don’t hire too many people, keep your costs low; if you can outlast your competition, you don’t have to worry about them stealing your stuff.

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    Starting over again on our SaaS

    Starting over again on our SaaS

    Justin and Justin talk about where they're at.

    • Podcasts like the Project Journey show, are at the beginning of their journey.
    • Marie Poulin is a good example of an entrepreneur who's experienced a breakthrough this year; we should celebrate those!
    • Justin's tweet: "What are we doing this for? Is the purpose of life to "Start business. Make most money. Die." We want to engage with an audience that wants more out of life."
    • "Stay in your lane." The people who listen to this show aren't one-dimensional. We all live in a social, economic, and political context. We have feelings, families, histories. "Business" exists within these contexts. If our ideas about business are divorced from their human context, how helpful are they really?
    • 22:18 – the Tailwind CSS project is plumbing. 
    • 23:15 – what kind of SaaS projects would we start right now?
    • 27:10 – how much money does Nathan Barry have in the bank?
    • 28:50 – you could still build this kind of app (Carrd competitor)
    • 29:30 – Miguel's new product SiteSauce.app

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    What should we build next?

    What should we build next?

    This week on the show:

    • Jon baked bread. Got some sunshine. Avoiding social media, the other disease
    • Justin WAS ON SOCIAL MEDIA. 
    • What does the future hold?
      • Dan Price tweet: "After the most recent 15 deadly outbreaks, wages grew over the ensuing 3 decades by a lot."
      • Jamie Lawrence tweet: "What I’d like to see small local businesses come out of this crisis with."
    • Can we give ourselves a deadline for the Tailwind project? What should it be?
    • What should we think about shaping next?
      • API
      • Helping podcasters make money
      • Analytics
      • Private podcasting feature
      • Podcast websites

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    How coronavirus is impacting revenue

    How coronavirus is impacting revenue

    This week, Justin called up Josh Pigford, founder of Baremetrics:

    • Baremetrics does analytics for SaaS companies
    • I called him up just to get a sense of how this pandemic (and looming recession) has already started to affect different SaaS companies
    • He's already noticing some trends: "A lot of SaaS companies are seeing the biggest loss they've seen in the past 4 weeks. I've heard from some companies that are seeing a 10-20% decrease in MRR."
    • "Payroll is the biggest challenge over the next year. Payroll is our biggest expense."
    • How are you going to ride this out?
    • "We use Flight Path + Baremetrics to forecast revenue and expenses."
    • Justin's tweet: "here are the companies doing well right now."
    • A preview of a new feature that Baremetrics is building: automated email messaging for SaaS companies.
    • Josh's side-projects: Cedar + Sail, Lasertweets

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    Giuuuuuuuunta

    Giuuuuuuuunta

    Today, we are joined by a very special guest: Dave Giunta! 

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    Pants-driven development

    Pants-driven development

    Jon and Justin, still making sense of life (and business) in a pandemic:

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    How are founders handling the pandemic?

    How are founders handling the pandemic?

    Jon and Justin are hunkered down, and reeling from COVID-19:

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    Marie Poulin: Maybe you shouldn't start a software company

    Marie Poulin: Maybe you shouldn't start a software company

    This week, Justin is joined by Marie Poulin, co-founder of Oki Doki. They discuss:

    Chatting with Marie Poulin, Oki Doki

    • 3:40 – "I used to be in the 'Ra Ra! Everyone should build a web app' crowd."
    • 4:18 – "Now there's this feeling that maybe everyone shouldn't start a SaaS?"
    • 9:30 – When you're starting a business, there are so many dynamics you need to get right.
    • 13:40 – Why so many people fail to go from zero to one in business.
    • 16:20 – Why are you starting a business in the first place? What's driving you?
    • 23:41 – There's a company called Tighten that gives their employees mental-health days.
    • 26:00 – What is the most efficient way for you to improve your life?
    • 27:00 – Sometimes folks try to make a part-time business into a full-time business.
    • 33:00 – Is it possible for a business to be lucrative, easy, and fun?
    • 42:00 – Having money does solve a lot of life's problems.
    • Marie's super-secret Notion course

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    All that he wants

    All that he wants

    This week, Jon and Justin celebrate 100 episodes:

    • Jon was on the Cody Story podcast awhile back.
    • Justin, on the other hand, loves writing testimonials:
    • "We are in our mid-life crisis of SaaS building. I think, for me, the problem is not quite knowing what's next."
    • Is this the time we hire a business coach? 
    • Where does your personal motivation for work come from?
    • What difference are we trying to make in the world?
    • Derek Sivers: "You've got to take off the old clothes in order to put on the new clothes."
    • Organizational cadence: what team retreats do we do each year?
    • Inertia: "things don't move unless you apply an external force to them."
    • "Brian Rhea seems thoughtful about this kind of stuff."
    • Jon has been using AlpineJS by Caleb Porzio – it's really nice.
    • Vampire movie recommendation: Let the Right One In
    • Justin is contacting our winners from the contest. (We used ContestKit.com for this)
      • 410 registrations
      • 64 people were already on our MailChimp list.
      • 55 of these people have been a customer at some point (trial + paid)
    • Printing and sending t-shirts via Printful.

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    Should you start a startup with your spouse?

    Should you start a startup with your spouse?

    This week, Justin is joined by Michele Hansen (co-founder of Geocodio). We explore a bunch of questions:

    • What it's like to bootstrap with your spouse
    • 6:30 – where Michele and Mathias found the idea for their company
    • 7:00 – when you have kids you need diapers at 1am
    • Why people start companies
    • 7:55 – how getting pregnant motivated them to build a product
    • 10:15 – Matthias initially built a really basic geocoder for their purposes
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