Church is Messy

1 Timothy Message Series

1 Timothy Chapter 5:1-16

While the first half of 1 Timothy 5 is often viewed as a tutorial on caring for widows, this week Rick and Svea discuss what may be surprising themes this section is dripping with: leadership in challenging situations and what confrontation in the way of Jesus looks like.

Topics Discussed in this Episode

• 00:00 Intro.
• 01:03 Svea: I’ve always read the chapter from a widow’s perspective.
• 04:39 Surprised by the biblical confrontation and leadership themes in 1 Timothy 5.
• 08:49 What kind of disposition will help us to navigate and engage with change in our lives?
• 10:00 The goal of confrontation is to save a relationship not to sever a relationship.
• 13:11 What might it look like to truly live out seeing others as our mothers and fathers or brothers and sisters (as in the opening verses of chapter 5) - especially in conflict?
• 18:37 Don’t view others as a burden but care for them and see the far-reaching impact of that decision: safety in community.
• 23:19 In the way of Jesus are we easy to confront and hard to offend? Being defined by Jesus, not our ideas and performance.
• 27:08 How might we have encouraged Timothy if we had been a part of the Ephesian church?

In this episode, Pastors Rick Henderson and Svea Merry discuss 1 Timothy 4 and the issues of church leadership, reliance on the Spirit vs our conscience, understanding spiritual growth, and primary and second issues of Christianity. 

• 00:27 Intro - Recap of the series, intro to 1 Timothy 4, and transitioning from 1 Timothy 3
• 01:28 If people watch us progress in our faith, relationships, or leadership, they will see us changing from one way to another. 
• 03:26 1 Timothy 3 has qualifications for church leaders, but how do we handle growth while balancing minimum requirements for leadership? 
• 08:31 If no one is perfect and every leader is still progressing, like Timothy, then how can we determine when someone is ready to lead? 
• 10:57 Some studies show that, statistically, men apply for jobs that they expect to grow into, while women often don't apply if they don't meet every single qualifications. 
• 17:26 Timothy was called to leadership and empowered by the Spirit, not his own qualifications. Similarly, we should rely on God to support us in all we do as we invest ourselves.
• 21:50 Discussion of the difference between our conscience and the Spirit, and the role of Scripture, prayer, and community in these things.
• 25:20 We have some older code in us that doesn't check out. Ref. Start Wars: Return of the Jedi scene. How do we recognize and deal with old code in us?
• 29:36 Q&A time: answering listeners' questions: 1 Corinthians 11, female head coverings, avoiding instruments, etc. 
• 30:44 What are the differences between Orthodoxy and salvation? What about primary issues or secondary issues? And, Rick refers to a clip from Alistair Begg on "The Man on the Middle Cross"
• 35:57 Discussion of the desire for certainty instead of clarity and the problems it can cause. 
• 40:54 Ending with prayer that God will make us more like Jesus as our church addresses these topics in 1 Timothy. 

1 Timothy Message Series

1 Timothy Chapter 3

In this discussion on 1 Timothy 3, Rick and Svea answer your questions about our attitudes toward leaders who taught us something we now disagree with, the interpretation that is inherently connected to Bible translation, specific words and phrases in 1 Timothy 3, and leaning into our own shortcomings as we look at the qualifications of leaders.

Topics Discussed in this Episode

• 00:00 Intro.
• 01:33 Rick's most interesting things from 1 Timothy in order: understanding the gospel, studying the Bible for all it's worth, and then men and women in leadership
• 03:18 How can we handle the pastors and leaders who taught us the Gospel and the Word if we now disagree with them? 
• 09:08 What's the difference between false teachers and people who get something wrong about Scripture? If a pastor is wrong about something in Scripture are they a false teacher?
• 11:32 Fear-mongering with Scriptural perspectives: many of us were instilled with fear of any disagreement over Scripture.
• 14:09 What do we do with Bible translation committees who provide translations with a specific doctrine in mind? 
• 16:36 Bible translation and interpretation are inherently connected.
• 18:37 How do we pick a Bible translation? First, pick one you can read and understand. 
• 22:30 Different benefits of paraphrase, thought-for-thought, and word-for-word translations. The goal is to "discern the meaning rather than the equivalent word."
• 23:37 How do we interpret the usage of "wife" and "woman" in 1 Timothy 3.
• 26:30 Is there a chance that 1 Timothy intended to politely address a specific scenario where church leaders' wives were disrupting the church's ministry?
• 28:36 Pastor Rick discusses the context of home life in the context of 1 Timothy. 
• 34:38 Discussion of "one-women man," divorce, widows, and singleness.
• 41:27 Leaning into our shortcomings and shortcomings in following Jesus: authority, identity, and activity.

1 Timothy Message Series

1 Timothy Chapter 2:11-15

Join us for an in-depth discussion on 1 Timothy 2:11-15. Rick and Svea dive into the differences of interpretation, a brief history that brought us to this discussion, and a recognition that men and women are different.

Topics Discussed in this Episode

• 00:00 Intro.
• 01:43 Context: 1 Timothy 2:11-15.
• 03:47 Navigating differences of interpretation.
• 10:19 The Bible IS clear on the essentials we must agree on.
• 13:08 Do research.
• 18:20 Punched in the brain the "The Question."
• 20:23 How has this issue become so enmeshed with liberalism and feminism?
• 23:05 A brief history: complementarianism.
• 24:27 A brief history: soldiers coming home after WWII - America and Europe diverged.
• 27:15 A brief history: 50s, 60s, & 70s: youth culture, a major cultural shakeup.
• 29:56 A brief history: mainline Protestants, Fundamentalists, and Neo Evangelicals.
• 36:28 A brief history: merging of ideas and becoming too simplistic - liberal and conservative.
• 39:39 Holding up Scripture and being more like Jesus.
• 44:51 A First-century problem: the gospel's reputation was on the line.
• 48:00 There IS a difference between men and women.
• 50:48 Titus: Men and women are not interchangeable, but both are indispensable.

1 Timothy Message Series

1 Timothy Chapter 2:1-10

Join us for an in-depth discussion on 1 Timothy 2:1-10. Rick and Svea tackle embracing humility and mutual submission and the far-reaching implications of the gospel for men and women.

Additional Resources
https://autumnridge.church/1-timothy/

Topics Discussed in this Episode

• 00:00 Welcome and Introduction.
• 01:00 The challenge and conviction about not praying for those in authority.
• 03:10 How does praying for those in authority play out?
• 04:37 Embracing humility and submission "resets" and recalibrates us.
• 06:31 What does it look like to pray with thanksgiving for those who are trying to do away with a godly way of life?
• 09:55 Practical ways to model humility and submission.
• 10:31 Our conscience and the Holy Spirit are not the same.
• 20:38 Gospel Fluency.
• 22:56 The implications of the gospel: Men and women in 1 Timothy 2:8-10
• 29:52 Using verses 1-10 as a mirror of self-examination as we move into verses 11 and following.

1 Timothy Message Series
1 Timothy Chapter 1

Join us for an in-depth discussion on 1 Timothy 1. Rick and Svea dig into living the gospel, dealing with false teaching, and our tendencies to add to or subtract from Scripture.

Additional Resources
https://autumnridge.church/1-timothy/

Topics Discussed in this Episode

• 00:00 Welcome and introduction.
• 01:56 1 Timothy Series and the thesis: "We teach what we know but reproduce who we are."
• 03:15 Purpose and context of 1 Timothy and its overarching message of living the gospel.
• 06:56 What is the ice cream, ketchup, and mustard gospel?
• 09:34 Paul instructed Timothy on standing up to false teachers in Ephesus. How does this apply to us?
• 14:12 Does calling out false teachers apply to situations outside the Church?
• 17:03 We are "pilgrims" and we are responsible TO others, not responsible FOR others, like ambassadors.
• 18:23 Tendencies and vulnerabilities of adding or removing commands from Scripture.
• 19:56 How to collaborate on self-awareness and gospel accuracy.
• 23:12 Discussion of "I'll never be more disappointed in you than I am in myself," and humility, shame, or self-condemnation. 
• 31:30 Should we just overlook sin instead of addressing it? Why not?

Today Rick and Svea share the studio with Pastor Otis Hall. In the Parable of the Sower (Matt. 13:1-9), they discuss shifting the focus to looking for the desired result: a good harvest,  not just from the perspective of sowing the seed.

NOTE: This is the last episode of 2023. Rick and Svea will be back behind the microphones in January 2024 for a new series, Devoted.

Message Scripture Passages:
Mathew 9:35-38; Mathew 13:1-9; Mathew 13:18-23

Topics Discussed Today:

• 00:00 Intro
• 01:14 Otis’s background in plant science and molecular genetics--pre-ministry
• 02:04 Otis’s long-term experience of being called into ministry
• 03:16 Background of Otis’s sermon, Matthew 9 and Jesus’s prayer for “workers” for the harvest, and Matthew 13 with the parable of the sower.
• 09:41 How did Jesus model addressing people’s needs prior to sharing the Gospel?
• 10:46 What about sharing the Gospel apart from loving service? Or, “Just share the Word.”
• 14:53 How to practically incorporate service and love while sharing the Gospel?
• 28:03 So what do we actually do? How can members of our congregation engage?

So far in this series, we’ve looked at the unexpected messages to four churches in modern-day Turkey.

UNEXPECTED MESSAGE:

• It’s better to have no church than an unloving church.

• It’s better to let a church suffer than to prevent it. 

• It’s possible for a church to stand up for Jesus while standing against Jesus.    

• It’s possible for a church to wrongly value staying together over staying faithful.  

• It’s possible for everyone but Jesus to be convinced that a church is alive and well.

• A church may be strongest when it’s weak.
• It’s possible for a church to be physically rich but spiritually bankrupt.

Message Scripture Passage:
Revelation 3:14-22

Series Thesis:
KNOWING the truth doesn’t change anything. SUBMITTING to the truth changes everything.

Topics Discussed Today:

• 00:00 Intro
• 01:48 Lukewarm coffee and lukewarm churches.
• 02:26 What does "lukewarm" mean in the letter to Laodicea? 
• 06:15 History of Laodicea with hot springs, cold water streams, and financial wealth.
• 07:46 What does this context and history suggest about Jesus's message here?
• 14:27 Svea's story of trusting Jesus when learning to ski as a kid.
• 18:51 Self-reliance and competency in spiritual matters.
• 20:08 Discussion of Jesus's pace in dealing with people--efficient, quick, slow, or something else?
• 25:52 How could Autumn Ridge Church learn from and apply the messages in this and the other letters to churches in Revelation?

So far in this series, we’ve looked at the unexpected messages to four churches in modern-day Turkey.

UNEXPECTED MESSAGE:

• It’s better to have no church than an unloving church.

• It’s better to let a church suffer than to prevent it. 

• It’s possible for a church to stand up for Jesus while standing against Jesus.    

• It’s possible for a church to wrongly value staying together over staying faithful.  

• It’s possible for everyone but Jesus to be convinced that a church is alive and well.

• A church may be strongest when it's weak.

Message Scripture Passage:
Revelation 3:7-13

Series Thesis:
KNOWING the truth doesn’t change anything. SUBMITTING to the truth changes everything.

Topics Discussed Today:

• 00:00 Intro
• 01:53 Additional discussion from last episode on Sardis: how do we know if our church is alive?
• 04:31 God is committed to making us more like Jesus. What are the signs of the Spirit in us?
• 09:36 Is it good for churches to have non-believers among them?
• 12:50 Responding to these letters individually and collectively. 
• 14:14 Engaging in serving others individually and collectively.
• 18:11 Pastoral moment on not just knowing the truth but also submitting to it.
• 20:14 Rick's experience of gaining social standing in the community and the challenges it brought in his own life.
• 23:38 What do we do when our own perspectives get in the way of success in following Jesus?
• 28:22 Looking at love, purpose, and unity as key themes in Jesus's seven letters.
• 30:22 Testing of character and gaining clarity on our spiritual health is a gift of Jesus.
• 34:51 Jesus' description of himself in letter to Philadelphia, he claims to be God but then also talks about "his God". How do we understand these ideas?
• 39:31 Our goal is for people to say, "Look at what God did in and through this church."

So far in this series, we’ve looked at the unexpected messages to four churches in modern-day Turkey.

UNEXPECTED MESSAGE:

• It’s better to have no church than an unloving church.

• It’s better to let a church suffer than to prevent it. 

• It’s possible for a church to stand up for Jesus while standing against Jesus.    

• It’s possible for a church to wrongly value staying together over staying faithful.  

• It’s possible for everyone but Jesus to be convinced that a church is alive and well.

Message Scripture Passage:
Revelation 3:1-6

Series Thesis:
KNOWING the truth doesn’t change anything. SUBMITTING to the truth changes everything.

Topics Discussed Today:

• 00:00 Intro
• 01:00 Overview of the church in Sardis: unnoticed, irrelevant.
• 01:45 The church in Sardis started strong but might have become routine.
• 03:37 What does it take to avoid lukewarm faith.
• 05:31 Usage of “woke” in Scripture compared to current cultural usage.
• 11:38 What is Jesus looking for in a healthy church?
• 13:42 What is the heartbeat of believers and the Church?
• 15:17 Adoption, repentance, and the certainty of salvation in Jesus.
• 18:56 Jesus knew us and our future even before we believed in him.
• 21:40 God is gentle and kind to believers, even in discipline and rebuke.
• 25:04 Is the Church for believers or non-believers? Or someone else?
• 28:27 “The gravitational pull to be for ourselves is so strong.” Read 2 Corinthians 5 for the fix.
• 30:30 What are three markers of a healthy church?

So far in this series, we’ve looked at the unexpected messages to four churches in modern-day Turkey.

• It’s better to have no church than an unloving church.
• It’s better to let a church suffer than to prevent it. 
• It’s possible for a church to stand up for Jesus while standing against Jesus.
• It’s possible for a church to wrongly value staying together over staying faithful.  

 Rick and Svea discuss how gospel fluency (and define what it is) helps to understand what was going on in Thyatira.

Message Scripture Passage:
Revelation 2:18-29

Series Thesis:
KNOWING the truth doesn’t change anything. SUBMITTING to the truth changes everything.

Topics Discussed Today:

• 00:00 Intro
• 01:17 What is gospel fluency? How does this perspective help us?
• 01:44 How does the content of the gospel impact us?
• 05:13 What do you mean by knowing the content of the gospel?
• 07:06 The implications of gospel fluency
• 09:02 The motivation of gospel fluency
• 10:45 Intro to the church in Thyatira and the popular stigma around it.
• 12:10 Who is Jezebel, and what made her harmful to that church?
• 15:08 Is tolerating sin the same as anti-gospel behavior?
• 16:52 How do we not tolerate sin and anti-gospel behavior?
• 23:30 Discussion of references and metaphors in Revelation 2:18-29

So far in this series, we’ve looked at the unexpected messages to three churches in modern-day Turkey.

• It’s better to have no church than an unloving church.
• It’s better to let a church suffer than to prevent it. 
• It’s possible for a church to stand up for Jesus while standing against Jesus.

 Today, we spend quite a bit of time looking at practical steps to reflect Jesus properly so we stand for him and don't stand against him.

Message Scripture Passage:
Revelation 2:12-17

Series Thesis:
KNOWING the truth doesn’t change anything. SUBMITTING to the truth changes everything.

Topics Discussed Today:

• 00:00 Intro
• 01:36 Symbolism in the letter to Pergamum
• 02:50 Jesus shows his intimate familiarity with each church
• 05:31 John's isolation lends validity to the message from Jesus
• 05:45 Which John wrote this letter
• 08:49 Bringing out unexpected messages in this series
• 12:02 This passage beautifully plays out our series thesis
• 13:41 Practical steps to reflect Jesus properly
• 14:52 Loving well
• 18:12 Navigating loving and kindness in the workplace
• 22:12 Using wisdom to engage instead of affirming or celebrating
• 25:49 The emphasis is on what's happening inside the church, not outside the church
• 27:37 The big problem with the American church is lovelessness and rudeness
• 30:24 We love to focus on the sins of the "out" group, not the sins of the "in" group

It's better to let a church suffer and to prevent it. Today’s episode unpacks suffering, faith, and trust in Jesus.

Message Scripture Passage:
Revelation 2:8-11

Series Thesis:
KNOWING the truth doesn’t change anything. SUBMITTING to the truth changes everything.

Topics Discussed Today:

• 00:00 Intro.
• 01:54 Recap and overview of the series resources.
• 04:31 The strength of our faith and the strength of Jesus
• 06:52 The New Testament was originally written to groups and communities of people, not to individuals.
• 09:48 Did Jesus avoid rebuking the church in Smyrna just because they were already suffering so much?
• 12:17 What does it mean when Jesus said Smyrna would suffer persecution for "10 days"?
• 14:12 Discussion of the statement that "A dead Jesus is a worthless Jesus."
• 16:16 Trusting in Jesus rather than in teachers, pastors, and leaders.
• 18:14 People who don’t flinch are the people who love Jesus, not the people who know theology.
• 26:14 Difference between "children of the empire" or "children of the kingdom."
• 29:29 Persecution and Protection.

Rick and Svea kick off the new "Dear Church" series with a discussion about symbolism in the Book of Revelation and move on to the difficult topic of a loveless church. Rick then casts a vision for what he thinks a loving church exemplifies.

Message Scripture Passage:
Revelation 1:17-2:7

Series Thesis:
KNOWING the truth doesn’t change anything. SUBMITTING to the truth changes everything.

Topics Discussed Today:

00:00 Intro

00:40 The start of our small group season and the benefit of group study

03:21 What is the church or a church?

06:28 Jesus is present among the churches and is “holding” the messengers of each church

08:13 What is the “star” of each church--angel, messenger, pastor?

13:00 Why did John only send one circular letter to seven churches?

16:55 Do we know which individual actually delivered this letter?

17:26 The detriment of a loveless church - Jesus “removing the lampstand”

21:23 What is a loving church? How do we be a loving church?

28:52 Vision of what a church looks like that both loves God and loves others

During the Preseason message series the mission, vision, and goals of Autumn Ridge Church have come up repeatedly. In this episode Rick and Svea dissect the Autumn Ridge Vision, "We want to be a church of all cultures where curious, skeptical, and hurting people love to attend." They talk about practical steps to help achieve this aspiration.

Topics in the episode:
00:00 Intro.
01:23 Our mission and vision.
03:03 What we don't talk about much.
03:41 Some questions about our vision.
06:25 Why are we talking about this?
09:23 History of multi-cultural churches in the US.
11:17 How can we address our vision of being multi-cultural?
17:15 Why do we say "all cultures" instead of "multi-racial"?
20:16 What else can we be doing as a congregation?
21:20 Break for a few weeks, then back in the end of September for the Dear Church series

Pastor Paul McDonald joins Rick and Svea as their discussion closes out the Masterpiece series.

About the Masterpiece series

• Theme Verse: For we are God’s handiwork [masterpiece], created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. Ephesians 2:10
• Series Thesis: We are good works of art created to do the art of good works.

Resources for this episode

Watch the message at: https://youtu.be/Fv_sGUSjkXg
Listen to the message at: https://arcsermons.transistor.fm/episodes/masterpiece-the-art-of-peace
Watch all of the Masterpiece messages: https://autumnridge.church/video-tag/masterpiece/

Topics Discussed in this episode

00:00 Intro
01:02 Wrapping up Masterpiece series and introducing Pastor Paul.
06:07 What we want our church to be like for curious, skeptical, and hurting people.
08:33 "Everyone is looking for peace, yet it is so elusive." 
09:45 Discussion of Paul's message thesis: "the heart of all conflict is a heart in conflict with God."
11:54 What did Jesus show us about peace?
15:17 Pastor Paul's personal experience with peace and his message.
16:57 Don't want to provide pat answers for those in the middle of the storm right now.
18:18 During times of turmoil experience peace by remaining in Christian community.
18:49 Knowing principles vs. enacting principles.
20:22 Traditional practice of Sabbath rest and how it relates to peace and unity.
21:52 How Autumn Ridge Church small groups can support peace and unity.
24:58 What stands in the way of our peace? How do we engage with such roadblocks?
27:17 Recap of the series and how it has impacted Autumn Ridge's congregation.
30:07 Close in prayer.

Caleb Smith joins Svea Merry on the podcast today.

About the Masterpiece series

• Theme Verse: For we are God’s handiwork [masterpiece], created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. Ephesians 2:10
• Series Thesis: We are good works of art created to do the art of good works.

Resources for this episode

Watch the message at: https://youtu.be/opZLI4KlLD4
Listen to the message at: https://arcsermons.transistor.fm/episodes/masterpiece-the-art-of-unity

Topics Discussed in this episode

• 00:00 Intro
• 01:39 Recap of the sermon on Unity and the Masterpiece Series.
• 06:36 The story of Barnabas and Paul and what it teaches us about Unity--as an example of apparent disunity.
• 07:40 How can we learn from Biblical examples that seem contrary to what we expect?
• 08:47 Paul and Barnabas show us how one can maintain unity despite disagreements and differing directions.
• 17:00 Unity is not that everything is the same, that everyone’s truth is true, that we have to abandon our faith, or that we have to ignore hard conversations.
• 20:43 Not every church is the same, but we can still be united in pointing people to Jesus Christ.
• 21:19 Cultures can each resonate differently with topics in Scripture, but there can still be unity.
• 23:45 "God uses the diverse to bring together the picture of the whole."
• 25:14 What does it mean that we are a kingdom of priests?
• 27:10 Applying unity to the current context of Autumn Ridge Church through good listening and understanding.
• 32:03 Example of a congregant disagreeing with a local church but still believing God has called them to be at that church.
• 36:17 When does disagreeing move from unity into sin?
• 37:23 Leaning into trusting God and His word in the face of ambiguous faith application.

Bob Ross, air conditioning, adversity, and pruning. What do all of these have in common? Rick and Svea have a very practical conversation about the latest installment in our Masterpiece series, The Art of Love.

About the Masterpiece series

• Theme Verse: For we are God’s handiwork [masterpiece], created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. Ephesians 2:10
• Series Thesis: We are good works of art created to do the art of good works.

Resources for this episode

Watch the message at: https://youtu.be/5b_uhDsZO7E
Listen to the message at: https://arcsermons.transistor.fm/episodes/masterpiece-the-art-of-love

Topics Discussed in this episode

• 00:00 Intro
• 00:38 Recap of our Outdoor Baptism Service
• 03:23 Overview of Rick's sermon on love yesterday and Bob Ross analogy
• 04:00 Being in Christ and "Bearing with each other in love" or "putting up with" (Ephesians 4:2)
• 07:25 Loving and bearing with others while still having boundaries and accountability
• 10:18 Boundaries for abiding in Jesus and the air conditioning analogy
• 12:32 Explanation of how sin and moral wrong is always a violation love
• 15:11 How does God prune us to make us bear more fruit, be more loving, and find significance, security, and satisfaction in Jesus?
• 19:33 Adversity can show us we have been leaning on the wrong thing
• 22:42 What can we do when we recognize we are placing our significance, security, and satisfaction in the wrong things?
• 24:31 Rick's experience with personal challenges and how they helped him create strategies to better follow Christ and yield to his ways
• 28:51 If we truly believe that we are loved by Jesus and that others are loved by Jesus, what would it really look like?
• 29:45 Are pruning and correction the same, or is pruning for a different purpose?
• 33:13 The Gospel is deep and transforms so much of our lives.

This week Rick and Svea give us a two-for-one. In the first half of the episode, Rick and Svea delve into the area of women in (church) leadership. In the second half, they have a heart-felt talk on Svea's sermon about patience. In her message, Svea showed how Jesus modeled patience even when he knew his remaining time on Earth could be measured in hours.

About the Masterpiece series

• Theme Verse: For we are God’s handiwork [masterpiece], created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. Ephesians 2:10
• Series Thesis: We are good works of art created to do the art of good works.

Resources for this episode

Watch the message at: https://youtu.be/JrwZdlcArl0
Listen to the message at: https://arcsermons.transistor.fm/episodes/masterpiece-the-art-of-patience

Topics Discussed in this episode

• 00:00 Intro
• 02:02 Women in Leadership
• 02:11 What does the Bible say about women in leadership?
• 09:25 What is the history of women in leadership at ARC?
• 14:08 Rick and Svea's recommendations on studying both perspectives on what the Bible says about women in leadership.

• 16:48 The Art of Patience
• 17:05 Svea's experience with losing her patience with her son and realizing that patience is a gift.
• 20:18 Is our world OK when people lack patience? It seems acceptable to be impatient.
• 21:30 "Patience is what you want to see in the driver behind you, but not in the driver in front of you."
• 22:25 Want to want to
• 23:13 How did Jesus model patience even when he was facing an extreme challenge?
• 28:42 God's patience for us, especially patience in salvation
• 30:46 How are we patient with God? What we need to remember when God seems slow to act.
• 32:04 Patience is not just our willingness to wait; it's "whom am I trusting?"
• 33:29 A plan for growing in patience

In this episode, Rick and Svea discuss unity in the church and the challenges that come cultural or stylistic preferences, particularly in regard to styles of worship music.

This episode is an extension of a message preached at Autumn Ridge Church in Rochester, MN on July 2, 2023. Watch the original message.

See Romans chapter 11 to read the primary Bible passage discussed in this episode.