Conversations with Big Rich

Family legacy racer, Mark McMillin, chairman of the Board of the Off-Road Motorsports Hall of Fame shares life in the McMillin family. It’s all about people, with a few race cars and some river-time thrown in. Mark was inducted in the Off Road Motorsports Hall of Fame in 2018. Mark is why we say; legends live at ORMHOF.org.  Be sure to tune in on your favorite podcast app.

2:46 – My dad used to say, if you want to get something done, give it to somebody who’s busy 

12:11 – when I graduated college, there were no jobs for me, interest rates were 19-20%, we weren’t building houses             

20:44 – Racing is a big part of our life. It’s not our whole life. 

23:07 – why we’ve been successful is because we try hard at everything we do

26:43 – I was never the fastest guy in a buggy, but I always found the finish line

40:54 – “What is your legacy?” Good people!

44:10 – I think this off-road racing fraternity is 99% people cut from the same cloth

49:01 – You don’t have to have a cheat sheet for things you really care about.

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Johnny Campbell, 11-time Baja Champion, Johnny has raced, supported, and managed the American Honda team. A fun listen, Johnny shares stories from around the world. Johnny was inducted in the Off Road Motorsports Hall of Fame in 2018. Johnny is why we say; legends live at ORMHOF.org.  Be sure to tune in on your favorite podcast app.

9:17 – at a local level, I had a couple number one plates. I had a few mentors, I was always following them and watching what they were doing 

13:13 – I was 21 when I finally got noticed by American Honda, and a guy who became my absolute hero and mentor             

24:26 – Bruce was super humble, super organized, super smart 

31:32 – we were professional at pre-running and racing and following ribbons and arrows, but we were novices at trying to navigate off a roadbook

41:57 – I call it 11 time, 17 gives people the illusion I rode it all

53:35 – We’ve built a program around Rancho Santa Maria, the school and orphanage that every year we do an event called the Baja Beach Bash

59:56 – ORMHOF was a really big point in my career; I think as a racer, it’s more than just racing, it’s how have you impacted the sport?

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TV Personality, Brendon Thompson, enlightens on us on the finer points of being on American Chopper – the builds, the craziness; but that’s not all, we get insight into his early life and his parenting, throw in a little 5150 racing and you’ve got the full meal deal. Be sure to listen on your favorite podcast app.

3:24 – my older brother was always the helping hand for me, picking me back up when I was doing wrong; he kept me on track 

8:47 – I almost got fired because I didn’t know fractions, couldn’t read a tape measure      

18:47 – My boss wanted to semi-retire so he passed off the gas tanks to me, I just started doing my own thing. 

22:19 – in 2010, that’s when I got that phone call to see if I wanted to come build a bike with Paul Jr. on television

36:13 – you don’t need to create the drama, the drama was there, it was craziness.

48:41 – We did a lot of cool stuff, I’ve had a lot of cool experiences with the show, with Paul.

51:47 – it was a big deal because we parked in Tracy Jordan’s spot, they’re like, you gotta move, Tracy’s here – we were like, okay, whatever.

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FigSpeed honcho, Les Figueroa dishes about drag racing, off-road, and being at “that” level with the big boys. It’s a great listen, plenty of stories to keep you entertained. Be sure to listen on your favorite podcast app.

5:17 – I still have the car that my dad raced and bought in 1970 

16:59 – knowing I always loved drag racing, I took the position at Mallory Ignition making minimum wage; about $4.25 an hour             

20:32 – all the events I was able to work at, I was also able to race at. The people on the West Coast thought I was an East Coast racer…I never told anyone I was new. 

23:48 – so leaving the starting line as close to perfect as possible was the name of the game

28:17 – being there for Speed Week was awesome, we stayed at the Speedway Motel by the Brickyard, Mario Andretti’s room was down the hall, and Jeff was next to him, once you were in at that level, it was one big, huge family.

34:28 – Our company Fig Speed had a great relationship with Lucas Oil

42:51 – I got kicked out for one of the Pedagon Brothers, the thing is, nobody told me I was kicked out, I had to read it in National Dragster

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All American racing family, we’d like to introduce you to Andy DeVercelly – numbers, 2,3,4, and 5.  #2 is 93 years young and raced in the first Baja 1000; #5 just graduated to go-karts from mini-dwarf cars.  It’s a fun listen of four generations of racers. Be sure to listen on your favorite podcast app.

3:14 – Andy 2 – the bullfighter is my car, I hit a bull on the highway just before LaPaz 

12:48 – Andy 2 – I had no idea at all where I was, there were like three street signs down there             

19:00 – Andy 3 – my grandpa was an Ironman kind of guy, no one else could drive the car 

25:06 – Andy 3 – Now that I’ve retired, I get the pleasure and fun of it all to go work with my son

31:36 – Andy 4 – so as far as 4 wheels, he’s still a few years out – he’s just tall enough now to start learning

39:26 – Andy 2 – the big thing was the energy, the energy that the people have down there for the 1000 is next level

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Our favorite pirate, Todd Young, shares life in the hood, work, rockcrawling, and unexpected life changes. This is a great one, if you’ve ever had a chance to be around Todd, you’ll appreciate that he tells it like it is. Be sure to listen on your favorite podcast app.

3:57 – My dad was always a brawler, So I was born with the expectation that you solved everything with a good fistfight. 

10:58 – I kind of fell into the weld shop, they had us welding right away             

19:20 – I don’t do rules and politics very well, at I stage I got fed up and wallpapered the whole back wall of the shop with all those memos and stuff 

30:12 – I got into a six-foot snowbank and slid off the edge, and that 4Runner wasn’t nearly as capable as I thought it was

38:42 – So off we go to Goldendale, and sure enough, Big Rich and Little Rich are throwing the biggest rock crawling soiree…and I’m like, that’s my kind of people right there

45:59 – Next thing I know, we’re rounding up rocks and culverts and throwing some fun crawls in our backyard for our local rockcrawling club

53:27– Well, ditch the bike and I’m going to shoulder roll this wreck out; I hit a lot harder than I thought

59:33 – My whole world was shrinking, the doctor goes, I’m just going to throw this out there, not to alarm you, but we can cut it off and I’ll have you back to work in six, eight weeks.

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Mary McGee is a legend in off-road racing; solo’d the Baja 500 on a bike as the first person to do so; a woman who never learned to quit and always said yes to everything offered. She thinks she’s the luckiest woman ever, her history is a great story. Mary was inducted in the Off Road Motorsports Hall of Fame in 2023. Mary is why we say; legends live at ORMHOF.org.  Be sure to tune in on your favorite podcast app.

3:31 – My 9-year-old brother and myself (age 5), by ourselves went on the steamship from Juneau to Seattle

19:29 – Vashak said to Dan, Mary, she should road race the motorcycles, make even smoother than the car.                                

24:45 – Women couldn’t have credit cards in their name, they couldn’t have anything in their own name. 

29:41 – “Are you motorcycle people?” yes, “You have to leave”

34:24 – my friend, Steve McQueen, said, “Mary, you have got to get off that pansy road racing bike and come out to the desert.”  Will I have to get dirty?

55:48 – We only made it to El Arco and it was freezing; I went around and around that fire and got myself nice and hot and went right over to those two guys sleeping on cardboard and slithered right in between them

1:10:34 – Once you start something, you should see it through to the end, however it goes.

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Cowboy Matt Deas, one of the OG rockcrawlers hails from North Carolina where he raises kids and horses. Matt shares with us some great stories about rockcrawling in the early days.. Be sure to listen on your favorite podcast app.

5:16 – Man, I love my childhood going to school and stuff, there were 89 of us in my graduating 

10:43 – Once I got healed, I started ordering parts and got me a trail rig             

17:11 – from 02-03 the sport evolved more, more participants and stuff 

22:07 – Jellico was always my favorite because that’s where it all started for me

29:44 – Probably the WE Rock in ’07 we ended up third, but I remember the level of competition was huge

38:56 – I want to say it was ’10 a lot of people were coming back, they caught their breath and was like, hey, we survived the storm

47:01 – I’m going to treat myself for a while, I’m going to treat myself for a while, I made it three weeks

57:44 – We ought to put a show on, get some sponsorship and really pump it up – you woulda been proud of me.

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Nicole Pitell brings her own brand of hype to every conversation, she shares the inside scoop of Total Chaos to the podcast. Be sure to listen on your favorite podcast app.

6:12 – at the end of the day, it’s what makes each of us individually happy is what’s going to elevate you and take you to the next level

12:05 – I want noted for the record, I suck at driving in mud             

19:47 – our product line comes from having to build better parts for our friends who were pitting for us 

25:44 – I think you need good competition to elevate your innovation and your passion

32:50 – they just let me go full stupid down south of the border

41:33 – An all women’s? That sounds horrible was the first thing I said to her.

46:03 – I really like to have fun in life, no bad days

55:12 – I don’t hang around with people that aren’t motivated, inspired, and driven every day

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Glenn Classen made a big move from South Africa to the US to expand his market for shock absorbers – almost 20 years in, he’s continued to grow and develop Radflo for the off-road market. Be sure to listen on your favorite podcast app.

3:46 – as a kid, being aware of anything socially or politically about how the country ran you weren’t aware of until much later

11:44 – let’s fire this thing back up, we made parts and started selling shocks             

13:01 – in any business, there’s massive swings of good luck and bad 

16:11 – that’s how I sold it to my wife, we’d come over to the US for two years and then go home

23:04 – I came over here and very quickly realized that this was a massive pond and I was a very small fish

33:23 – we are just a shock manufacturer

38:44 – we make shocks to suit the different lift kit manufacturers, we don’t do generic

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Stan Haynes has rock sports under his skin; a long-time supporter of both series and competitors, Stan shares life in a family-run business with us. Be sure to listen on your favorite podcast app.

6:07 – I thought I was getting drafted to go die in Vietnam

11:24 – 57’  Chevy, I hot-rodded the heck out of it             

15:52 – we still continue with Branik doing foundry work and ceating master tooling, molds, and dies making thousands of parts and a foundry and castings 

19:50 – in starting a business you’re going to go through hard times, but be prepared and try to always have the attitude of don’t give up

28:49 – I started going to King of the Hammers in ’09 and two years later we’re racing

32:17 – I love free market, I love capitalism, it really enhances a business to be better.

41:52 – What a beautiful place of God’s Green Earth, everyone needs to experience the Rubicon, am I right?

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Steven Adams is a lighting master; one of the founders of Rigid Lights, he’s stepped up again with Nacho Offroad Technology. The world is brighter with Steve in it, be sure to listen on your favorite podcast app.

5:33 – I’m sure he thought I would just throw my life away because I wasn’t being an airline pilot

17:16 – I pulled up Bender’s How to Bend Tech 101 and taught myself how to make a light bar             

21:38 – Hey, if you’re going to do this, here’s what you need to do…  

28:14 – We need to make this an American made light

38:38 – not that making money is a bad thing, but that was the only thing

48:24 – I didn’t realize you don’t have scientists growing week, you have stoners growing weed

57:18 – We’re not going to do anything if we don’t have fun doing it!

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YouTube star Nicole Johnson brings a load of experience to her channel, she’s on a mission to drive everything – but we shouldn’t be surprised she’s already mastered race cars, rockcrawlers, and Monster trucks! Be sure to listen on your favorite podcast app.

5:36 – Snow? People live in snow, that must suck!

16:20 – Frank would just…it was really cure, he would stand up and be like, “that’s my wife!”             

23:25 – we’re just enthusiasts, we love to target shoot  

29:04 – the buggy we bought was so capable, it out drove me every time

35:37 – that $400 is going to cost you how many hours to really get that relationship where it needs to be

45:48 – “when I lower my arm, floor it and go 20 feet.” when you floor it, it’s going to have some torque squat

1:00:51 – I was always telling my kids, you guys should appreciate me more, I’m super cool!

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Meet Emme Hall, off-road racer, Miata lover, cat herder, and freelance journalist. A woman of many talents and a bright personality, you’ll enjoy this one! Be sure to listen on your favorite podcast app.

6:30 – I was never the ingenue; I’m way too weird for that!

10:42 – because life is too short to drive something that isn’t fun             

19:22 – I was in my late 30’s. That’s old to start racing, because you got fear.  

31:11 – So you should see these straight lines, and there are people where it looks like spaghetti!

35:39 – I got to drive with Tanner Faust riding right seat for me

43:17 – At the Mint 400, Matt Martelli gave us a gambler class, they gave us 100 miles, one lap.

54:00 – That sounds good, let’s get a $400,000 Cullinan to take on an off-road rally

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Don Amador has been a land user for a lifetime, and a land use warrior for almost as long. Don was inducted into the Off Road Motorsports Hall of Fame in 2016. Don is why we say; legends live at ORMHOF.org.  Be sure to tune in on your favorite podcast app.

5:24 – the happiest day of my life being a Native Californian was moving back to Northern California

12:00 – I guess my activism scared a couple of board members, so I got uninvited from the board                                

16:23 – I was appointed by Pete Wilson in ’94 to be on the OHV Commission of State Parks 

22:30 – moving from unmanaged to managed recreation has really benefited OHV on a national scale

30:53 – a lot of our offroad opportunities occur at the local level with decisions made by local land managers

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Buggy builder, Joe Thompson lays it all out in Episode 190; self-taught welder and bike enthusiast, Joe brings his varied background to the winningest drivers. Be sure to listen on your favorite podcast app.

4:08 – I would think to myself, there’s a bada**, I want to be like that!

13:19 – even when I was a BMX grom, I was glued to ESPN watching the Baja 1000

21:24 – “Are you any good?” Well, I’ve been told I have a good hand.  

29:18 – We’d always park the buggy on the street with a giant welding sign and an arrow pointing to the shop; I got lots of work from that.

39:35 – I know what’s wrong, I can fix it, Marcos totally blew me off

53:58 – the Gomez brothers and I are partners in winning, that’s what we’re partners in

58:50 – I see the fully independent cars being the future.

1:16:31 – The uniqueness of our sport is incredible

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Ed Pearlman was ahead of his time, creating the first Mexican 1000 which later translated into NORRA; he founded the Off Road Motorsports Hall of Fame, as well. Today we remember him with a conversation with his son, Mike Pearlman. Ed is why we say; legends live at ORMHOF.org.  Be sure to tune in on your favorite podcast app.

3:10 – we never saw a Land Cruiser before, it was a real Tarzan vehicle back then.

8:18 – if we can only get 60 entries, at $100 an entry, that’d be enough to pay for the event                                

11:37 – you misunderstood, this is the Off Road Rally Association, it’s not a race, it’s a rally 

22:11 – why don’t we just put on a vintage race?

34:43 – it all started because Dad wanted to take his kid hunting

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I don’t want to say Val Douglas is a catastrophe because wherever she is, there’s a whole lot of fun going on.  Listen in on some great stories from this off-road maven; and her connections to some of the biggest brands in off-road. Be sure to listen on your favorite podcast app.

7:17 – I would take my 88 t-bird and follow the guys, my dad loved me for that.

20:46 – I was shell-shocked, Grand Junction to Laramie to Atlanta; I was over it.             

24:38 – go pack these bearings full of grease, then stick them in this tube, and don’t drop them on the floor! 

37:55 – in Colorado, you have to stay on the trail, it’s not like an open OHV area, Colorado is a big stickler for that

45:21 – the start of the yard sale at Potato Salad Hill….{be sure to listen to this one}

1:04.35 – competing was a whole different ballgame

1:10:35 – queen of the Rubicon Rodeo; champion bull rider

1:19:59 – my giant black German Shepherd is a personal protection dog; he won’t bite you until I tell him to

1:31:54 – what is the sweep team?

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Rebelle Rally 3x champion, Melissa Clark, shares her life in off-road from Pritchett Canyon to the Glamis Sand Dunes. A Ford-sponsored driver, Melissa brings Tread Lightly! policies to everyone she teaches. Be sure to listen on your favorite podcast app.

5:00 – I still consider myself an OR nurse

9:05 – …it got me close to Magic Moab             

16:56 – my real gateway drug was definitely Moab 

23:28 – we teach good, solid off-road techniques and then the nuances of the Bronco

35:37 – I’m very competitive by nature, so I like games

40:57 – the suffering aspect of the Rebelle is what makes the finishing so sweet

49:42 – your vehicle is your third teammate and there are pros and cons to every person on the team

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Some men are always motivated, Clyde Bynum, the godfather of rock-bouncing shares his best advice on Episode 186. Be sure to listen on your favorite podcast app.

9:17 – the truth is, I enjoy work

13:45 – we focused on mini-trucks until about 10 years ago             

17:59 – climbing hills is something I’ve done since the days of the three-wheeler 

24:52 – if it went bad, you were going to cartwheel multiple times back to the bottom

35:03 – Timmie Cameron has been probably the biggest name

43:17 – Bobby Tanner gave my son CJ the chance to drive

49:36 – I studied for 24 hours and became a national satellite installer so that I can cross this bridge at my first event

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