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    Courageous Leadership with Travis Yates

    Courageous Leadership with Dr. Travis Yates Podcast examines what it means to be a Courageous Police Leader. Join us weekly as the concepts of Courageous Leadership are detailed along with interviews with influencers that are committed to leading with courage. You can find out more about Courageous Leadership with Travis Yates at: www.TravisYates.org

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    Champion For Change with Tom Rink

    Champion For Change with Tom Rink

    Have you ever stood at the crossroads of your career, torn between the comfort of the familiar and the allure of the unknown? This is the tale of Tom Rink, whose pivot from a 25-year stretch as a Tulsa police officer to a librarian and educator proves it's never too late to rewrite your story. Our conversation with Tom unveils the remarkable way he discovered his true calling and how his police background enriched his new profession, culminating in the creation of a groundbreaking police department library. His journey is a beacon for anyone contemplating a dramatic career shift, illustrating the power of passion and the unexpected opportunities that can arise from embracing change.

    Tom's story is further enriched by the vital role of leadership in fostering innovation within existing structures. A forward-thinking commander's support was the catalyst for Tom's vision of a police department library, highlighting how leadership can be instrumental in bringing about transformative projects. The episode goes beyond Tom's personal narrative to discuss how the deployment of an online library supercharged the efficiency of the Tulsa Police Department.

    This episode is a tribute to the leaders who dare to support the unconventional and the trailblazers like Tom who help steer the ship towards uncharted but fruitful waters.


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    Confronting Toxic Leadership with Steve Neal

    Confronting Toxic Leadership with Steve Neal

    Ever wondered what it takes to lead with integrity behind the badge? Join us as we sit down with Steve Neal, a law enforcement veteran of nearly three decades, whose story of transformation from a young man on the wrong side of the law to a champion for respectful policing will leave you inspired. Steve doesn't just share his journey; he takes us through the murky waters of law enforcement leadership, revealing how toxic relationships at the top can ripple down and impact the entire department. His book, "Toxic Boss Blues," dives into these turbulent dynamics, offering a lifeline to those struggling under the weight of problematic superiors.

    Leadership can make or break the spirit of an organization, and nowhere is this more evident than in the corridors of law enforcement. This episode peels back the curtain on the kind of leadership that corrodes institutional morale — think micromanagement and biased discipline — and outlines why the shift in promoting leaders should favor those who prioritize authenticity and moral courage. Steve's reflections on how he navigated these treacherous leadership landscapes not only shed light on the issue but also provide valuable lessons and strategies for those in the throes of similar battles.

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    From The Front Line to The Front of Health with Dr. Mark Sherwood

    From The Front Line to The Front of Health with Dr. Mark Sherwood

    When life handed you a uniform and a badge, it didn't provide a manual on how to maintain health amidst the chaos. Today's episode is nothing short of a revelation, as Dr. Mark Sherwood, a retired police sergeant and beacon of wellness, joins us to discuss the seismic shift in his life's path. From the gritty streets of law enforcement to the holistic corridors of fitness and functional medicine, Mark's transformation is a testament to the impact of proactive health and the potent power of hope in our lives. We dissect the overlooked health crisis festering within the ranks of those who serve and protect, and how Mark's insights are changing the game for officers nationwide.

    Have you ever considered the intricate ties that bind pharmaceutical companies, government agencies, and the medical industry? Mark pulls back the curtain on this subject, revealing a landscape where conflicts of interest and systemic issues could be compromising our health. We confront the alarming reality that prescribed medications aren't always the lifesavers they're marketed to be, and how a more informed approach to our wellness can keep us off the path of dependency and despair. With Mark's guidance, we explore how to reclaim control over our well-being through comprehensive blood work, lifestyle adjustments, and the courage to step outside the conventional healthcare narrative.

    Ending on a note of inspiration, we echo Dr. Sherwood's call for courageous leadership and personal accountability in law enforcement, and indeed, in all walks of life. Travis shares the story of his own health transformation, sparked by Mark's mentorship and the realization that vitality isn't just a professional requirement, but a personal mission.


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    Fight or Freeze: Active Shooter Response with Michael Howell

    Fight or Freeze: Active Shooter Response with Michael Howell

    When courage under fire translates from the battlefield to the streets, retired police captain and U.S. Army veteran Michael Howell steps into our studio to talk life, leadership, and the split-second decisions that make all the difference. Michael takes us behind the scenes of the Lakewood church shooting with a critical eye on the response, the impact, and the courage it takes to stand in harm's way. His first-hand account from a harrowing Black Friday incident casts a sobering light on the reality of law enforcement's high-stakes environment.

    Feel your pulse quicken as we recount the actions of Michael Howell, an off-duty officer whose presence of mind and training defused a lethal threat. This episode peels back the curtain on the psychological aftermath of an active shooter event, exploring the dichotomy between public perception and the intrinsic duty felt by those sworn to protect. We wade through the murky waters of decision-making amidst chaos, dissecting the varied responses from those on the scene of Joel Osteen's Church crisis and the implications of an officer's hesitation when every second counts.

    Rounding off, we grapple with the mental fortitude required for those in uniform, whether on duty or off, facing the ultimate test of their resolve. It's a stirring reminder of the weight carried by law enforcement and civilians alike who are thrust into the crucible of crisis. Stories of valor, such as Mike's, are not just tales of bravery; they are touchstones for the courageous leadership that safeguards our communities. Join us for an episode that not only salutes these unsung heroes but also empowers you with their lessons on leadership and survival.

    You can watch the video of the incident discussed here.

    We highly recommend this analysis by Keith Graves. 

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    Courage and Integrity with Dr. Roland Fryer

    Courage and Integrity with Dr. Roland Fryer

    Have you ever stood at a crossroads, principles in one hand, the easy path in the other? In this episode, we tackle the silent crisis afflicting today’s society: a dire need for courage among leaders. Courage that demands we stand grounded in our convictions, regardless of the tremors that threaten our professional and personal worlds.

    Through our journey, the spotlight falls on Dr. Roland Fryer, the brilliant mind whose empirical research on police use of force overturned widely accepted narratives. Withstanding immense pressure and the looming threat to his career, Fryer’s resolve to publish his findings remains a testament to integrity. His story, woven from the threads of a challenging upbringing to the academic peaks of Harvard, underscores the monumental impact that one individual's adherence to truth can provide. Our discussion is not just a chronicle of Fryer’s work, but a rallying cry for the kind of leadership that can genuinely reform and inspire change within the community.

    This episode is a tribute to those who prioritize unwavering principles over the luring call of comfort and a reminder that it is these rare acts of bravery that carve paths for progress. Listen in for an urgent, heartfelt charge towards cultivating a society that values integrity and the powerful influence of courageous leadership.

    A special thanks to The Free Press and Barry Weiss for the audio portions of this podcast.

    You can view Dr. Fryer's research here.

    An article dedicated to Dr. Fryer is here that contains the full 77 minute interview. 

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    A Consent Decree Disaster with Sean Willoughby

    A Consent Decree Disaster with Sean Willoughby

    When the rules of engagement change on the streets, what happens to the guardians keeping the peace? Sean Willoughby, president of the Albuquerque Police Officers Association, steps into the spotlight to shed light on the stark realities of police reform under DOJ consent decrees. Through Sean's lens, we uncover the consequences these changes have wrought on the Albuquerque Police Department: a rise in officer-involved shootings, strained budgets, and a workforce grappling with the chasm between theory and practice.

    As we peel back the layers of oversight, Sean's story unveils the paradox of deescalation policies leading to more fatal encounters, and the mounting pressures on officers to comply with often burdensome reforms. The narrative moves us through the city's law enforcement ecosystem, revealing the complexities of balancing constitutional protections against federal intervention and the intricate dance of local governments funding investigations into their own police forces. This episode is a wake-up call to consider the efficacy of DOJ decrees, the cultural shifts within police departments, and the broader implications for public safety.

    You can watch the video version of this podcast here



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    The Blueprint for Law Enforcement Excellence with Brian Baxter

    The Blueprint for Law Enforcement Excellence with Brian Baxter

    Join Travis Yates and his distinguished guest, retired assistant Chief Brian Baxter, for a deep and engaging discussion on the essence of leadership and trust within the law enforcement community. Brian, with over three decades at the Texas Department of Public Safety and founder of Performance Critical Inc., shares his invaluable insights and experiences that span from his initial days on patrol to his pivotal role in revamping DPS training. We unravel the fundamental shift needed for trust to evolve from being a mere metric to becoming the cornerstone of an effective policing mission. Listeners will gain a raw and revealing look into the practices that build respect and trust, not only among officers but also within the communities they serve.

    Our episode pivots to the nuanced art of officer management, where the fine line between public appreciation and private rectification is explored. Brian imparts wisdom on the importance of nurturing a culture where leaders honor their officers' efforts, creating an atmosphere where respect and trust are both given and received. The conversation travels through the intricacies of police training, advocating for an approach that instills communication and respect from a rookie officer's first day. This episode peels back the layers, connecting the quality of leadership to the caliber of public service provided by law enforcement officers, and offering a unique perspective on how the internal culture of an agency can translate to its public interaction.
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    Brian and I share our professional journeys since 1993, appreciating the progress made in technology, diversity, and transparency, while acknowledging the hard road ahead. This episode is a testament to the relentless pursuit of improvement within law enforcement, offering enlightenment and a beacon of hope as we confront ongoing challenges and strive for excellence amidst scrutiny.

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    Healthy Police Organizations with Chad Bruckner

    Healthy Police Organizations with Chad Bruckner

    Discover a transformative perspective on leadership as former police officer Chad is trailblazing  path through his performance coaching and desire to see leadership in law enforcement improve.  Venturing beyond his book, "The Holy Trinity of Successful and Healthy Police Organizations," Chad illuminates the essence of profound leadership and personal growth, recounting the lessons from his service-driven upbringing, military discipline, and the front lines of law enforcement. His narrative is a masterclass in understanding the human psyche and instigating positive change within the ranks of those who protect and serve.

    Chad juxtaposes the meritocratic ethos of military training with the seniority-centric culture pervasive in police departments. We confront the systemic challenges that hinder the cultivation of true leaders and discuss the dire need for an overhaul in law enforcement leadership. For officers feeling disheartened by their current professional environment, Chad extends actionable advice and encouragement. His insights are not just crucial for those in uniform; they resonate with anyone aspiring to lead with integrity and impact.

    Join us for a conversation that promises to redefine your understanding of what it means to lead by example.



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    The Wealthy Servant with Lamonte "Monty" Bynum

    The Wealthy Servant with Lamonte "Monty" Bynum

    Discover the secrets to financial freedom as Lamonte "Monty" Bynum, a Marine Corps veteran and retired law enforcement professional joins Travis Yates on this riveting episode that breaks the mentality of impossible that many first responders have. Monty describes the mindset and the determination that provided financial success while he was working in law enforcement.

    Monty doesn't just talk the talk; he walks us through the essential mindset shifts that fire up the engines of wealth and well-being. Tune in and learn how to fuse a heart for service with a head for business, turning the page to an exhilarating chapter of life after service.

    Embarking on a career transition can summon a tempest of self-doubt, but in this conversation, Monty cast a lifeline that examinse the daunting wave of identity and potential that often crashes over those in law enforcement and first responders, discussing how to navigate through the storm by recognizing personal triumphs and capabilities. Prepare to be inspired as we share stories of those who've successfully piloted their unique skills from public service into the entrepreneurial waters, illuminating the path to empowerment and success.

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    The Harsh Realities of the Texas Border Crisis with Hernando Arce

    The Harsh Realities of the Texas Border Crisis with Hernando Arce

    Hernando Arce brings more than just a keen eye for detail to our latest discussion; he carries the weight of truth from the frontlines of Texas border towns. As a citizen journalist, Hernando offers an unfiltered glimpse into the immigration crisis, painting a picture of leadership missteps and the real-world consequences for communities grappling with demographic upheaval. From the perilous paths migrants tread to the cartels' merciless orchestration of human displacement,

    Our conversation takes a deep and sometimes disquieting turn as we explore the strain on local resources and the government's handling of immigration. The personal freedoms and values that once drew Hernando to Texas now find themselves in the crosshairs of political decisions. We aren't afraid to tackle the hot-button issues, like the role of the Department of Justice in enforcing federal laws and the enigmatic silence of environmental advocates on the border's ecological impact. It's a no-holds-barred look at the politics of blame and the true human cost of policy inaction.

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    Bridging Ancient Wisdom and Modern Leadership with Bryce Lee

    Bridging Ancient Wisdom and Modern Leadership with Bryce Lee

    Discover the timeless principles of Stoic philosophy as Air Force veteran and law enforcement professional Bryce Lee joins us to unveil the nexus between ancient wisdom and modern courage. Through the lens of his own experiences and the discipline of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Bryce illuminates the virtues of humility and emotional discipline – essential tools in the arsenal of any leader facing the high-pressure demands of  police work. His insights challenge us to rethink leadership, infusing it with deeper introspection and a pivot towards the noble attributes of courage, wisdom, self-control, and justice.

    Bryce extends an invitation to probe the storied teachings of Marcus Aurelius, Seneca, and Epictetus, and their profound applicability to those in the trenches of public service. As the conversation unfolds, the focus sharpens on the necessary transformation within law enforcement leadership – from secretive art forms to an open embrace of initiative and contribution.



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    Imposters Among Us with Turk Gallagher

    Imposters Among Us with Turk Gallagher

    Turk Gallagher isn't just another voice in the maze of law enforcement; he's a beacon of truth in a world where leadership can often falter in the face of adversity. Our latest conversation peels back the layers of command, revealing how a true leader must not only don the badge but also the mantle of responsibility with an authentic heart. Turk's book, "Imposters on the Throne, Warriors in the Shadows," frames our dialogue as we dissect the leadership crisis plaguing the force and the transformative power of confronting internal challenges.

    Feelings of disenchantment aren't uncommon among the ranks, but they're symptoms of a larger disease – the cultural fallout from a lack of transparency and a move towards self-preservation over service. We tackle the hard truths about 'incestual leadership' where negative traits breed in the shadows of authority, and how this can spiral into a toxic work environment. Yet, it's not all grim; we discuss how brave individuals can be catalysts for change and the importance of recognizing when it's time to part ways with a system that no longer serves its people or its purpose.

    As Turk concludes, we are reminded that courageous leadership is more than just a concept; it's the very essence that can rewrite the narrative of law enforcement for the better.

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    The Reimagining of NYPD Will Destroy Community Safety

    The Reimagining of NYPD Will Destroy Community Safety

    The How Many Stops Act legislation in New York City is the beginning of the end for effective policing in New York City.  In this episode, Dr. Travis Yates discusses the recently approved legislation that's sparking fierce debate and concern for the future of the NYPD and community safety. In a move that's seen as both an attempt at accountability and a hindrance to law enforcement, New York City's council has overridden Mayor Eric Adams’ veto to pass a bill requiring police to document the age, race, and gender of every civilian they encounter. Join  as we discuss the reverberations of this decision, poised to ripple through the veins of a city already facing a staffing crisis within its police force and other escalating challenges.

    We explore the layers of oversight already in place and the potential for this new legislation to stifle proactive policing and cast an unjust shadow of discrimination over the department. As we navigate the complex landscape of law enforcement reform, we also ponder whether the How Many Stops Act is part of a broader strategy that mimics the calls to defund the police—a strategy that could lead to New York City's unraveling. Tune in as we sound the clarion call for strong leadership and the unwavering support of national police organizations in these critical times.

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    The 'Fatal 10' with Dr. Olivia Johnson

    The 'Fatal 10' with Dr. Olivia Johnson

    When former police officer and Air Force veteran Dr. Olivia Johnson speaks, her words carry the weight of experience and a heartfelt dedication to an issue that's as complex as it is urgent: police officer suicide. In a riveting conversation on the topic, we explore the landscape of law enforcement health through the lens of those who've walked the thin blue line. Dr. Johnson, at the helm of the Blue Wall Institute, takes us on her journey of transforming pain into proactive solutions for first responders' mental health, scrutinizing the status quo of suicide prevention and proposing a shift toward a holistic well-being approach.

    Navigating the intricate web of law enforcement's internal challenges, this discussion sheds light on the uncomfortable truths of officer misconduct and the critical necessity for transparency and accountability. Dr. Johnson doesn't shy away from discussing the resistance to change within the system or the sobering implications of misclassified suicides and unacknowledged heroism. The dialogue takes a hard look at the implications these realities have on community trust and the mental fortitude of our protectors, while also offering a staunch critique of the grant dependency that often stifles innovative progress in mental health initiatives.

    Dr. Johnson's message is one of hope, grounded in the resilience of faith and the unwavering pursuit of one's purpose. Reflecting on her experiences, she encourages an alignment of professional work with spiritual guidance, underscoring its role in driving meaningful change. Listeners are left with not just a deeper understanding of the 'Fatal 10' and its mission to address systemic issues across professions but also with actionable steps towards preventing police suicide. Dr. Johnson's dedication to authenticity and providing tangible resources serves as a beacon for those seeking to support the men and women who serve our communities with courage.


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    Going To Prison For Failing To Turn On A Body Camera

    Going To Prison For Failing To Turn On A Body Camera

    Could the simple mistake of failing to press 'record' cost a police officer 15 years behind bars? Dr. Travis Yates challenges you to consider the harsh realities of a legislative proposal that's sparking debate across Tennessee. This episode delves into the murky waters of body camera legislation, where the line between accountability and draconian punishment blurs. As we navigate the heated discussions, we shed light on the historical rise of body cams following the events in Ferguson, dissect the current proposed law's potential to change police conduct, and its implications on every interaction officers have with the public. With careers, public safety, and the very essence of trust in law enforcement hanging in the balance, we confront the silence from major police organizations and the urgency for community action.

    Step into the shoes of Tennessee's finest and imagine facing a future where the high-stakes environment of law enforcement is compounded by the threat of severe legal repercussions for what could be a split-second oversight. This episode is a call to arms for leaders and citizens alike to recognize the gravity of a bill that could redefine the landscape of policing. With a focus on the chilling effect such legislation may have on the recruitment and retention of officers, Travis passionately advocates for proactive measures to safeguard the pillars of public safety. As the bill looms over the state's criminal justice committee, the time is now to join the conversation and address this pressing issue with the urgency it demands.

    See The Proposed Bill Here

    Read: Failure of Body Cameras

    Washington D.C. Body Camera Study

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    The Power Of One with Tyler Thomas

    The Power Of One with Tyler Thomas

    Have you ever wondered what it takes to invigorate a community through leadership? Eureka County Under Sheriff Tyler Thomas joins us to share his groundbreaking work in organizing a leadership conference that is reshaping law enforcement culture for the better. This episode peels back the layers on how Tyler's small-town upbringing fueled his passion for impactful leadership, which now guides his efforts in hosting an annual event that's become a beacon for positive change within the sheriff's office and beyond.

    We take you behind the scenes of the challenges and rewards of bringing a leadership conference to life in the quaint, remote town of Eureka, Nevada. Discover how Tyler, together with Sheriff Jesse Watts and their team, has harnessed the power of community to create an experience that transcends the limitations of their environment. You'll get an insider's look at how this conference is not just a professional development opportunity, but a transformative force that rejuvenates law enforcement officials, attracts new talent, and fosters a leadership mindset that ripples through the entire country.

    There's an exclusive chance for you, our listeners, to join the excitement, with a competition that could see you attending this prestigious event and absorbing the wisdom firsthand. So, be ready to embrace the essence of courageous leadership that could very well redefine your daily life and professional trajectory.

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    Phoenix, Consent Decrees, & The DOJ with PLEA President Darrell Kriplean

    Phoenix, Consent Decrees, & The DOJ with PLEA President Darrell Kriplean

    Discover how federal consent decrees transform the landscape of law enforcement, with special guest Darrell Kriplean, President of the Phoenix Law Enforcement Association. We're taking a hard look at the often unseen consequences these legal instruments impose on police departments and the ripple effects felt within our communities. Prepare for a no-holds-barred conversation that reveals the secretive dealings and unilateral information pipelines that bind the hands of those sworn to protect and serve. Our examination kicks off with a pivotal moment in history—when a major city took a stand against the might of the DOJ, potentially altering the course of future investigations.

    Through the lens of Phoenix's challenging journey, Darrell sheds light on the paradox of DOJ cooperation, the veiled costs, and the lack of transparency that entangle these decrees. We're not just talking anecdotes; we're armed with the gritty details of how well-intentioned federal involvement might be fueling more harm than reform, taking a critical eye to initiatives like www.savephx.com and their grassroots pushback against these federal intrusions.

    You can read the 53 page document discussed in the episode here.


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    Lies, Deception, & Minneapolis with Dr. J.C. Chaix

    Lies, Deception, & Minneapolis with Dr. J.C. Chaix

    Travis is kicking off 2024 with a fascinating discussion with the writer and director of "The Fall of Minneapolis,"  Dr. J.C. Chaix.

    Dr. Chaix reveals the web of misconceptions surrounding strategic media and communication, particularly in light of the George Floyd incident. Dr. Chaix's work has exposed the unhealthy traits of leadership in our society and the damage it is doing across the nation.

    This episode shines a light on the intricate dance between truth and accountability, where the steps are often muddied by the missteps of those in power. We wade through the repercussions of law enforcement actions and public perceptions, unpacking the emotional and systemic toll these have on officers and public safety professionals. Dr. Chaix opens up about the emotional journey of confronting systemic issues and the imperative for leaders to stand firm in support of those working on the front lines, ensuring justice and truth prevail.

    This is one of the most important episodes we have done and we encourage you to listen and pass it along.

    You can watch "The Fall of Minneapolis" here.


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    Phoenix PD's Bold Pushback Against DOJ Overreach

    Phoenix PD's Bold Pushback Against DOJ Overreach

    When the Phoenix Police Department stood firm against the Department of Justice's consent decree, they didn't just shake the foundations of federal oversight—they may have redefined the future of American policing. This groundbreaking episode peels back the layers of a deeply contentious issue.

    In an era where principle often succumbs to pressure, this conversation heralds the valor of steadfast leadership. We probe into the intricate dance of autonomy versus federal intervention, dissecting the Phoenix PD's assertive reforms and the DOJ's potential legal challenges amidst a politically charged atmosphere. As Dr. Yates champions the virtues of unwavering conviction, join us for a compelling exploration of how a single act of defiance could be a harbinger of change for local law enforcement agencies nationwide.

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    Don't Feed The Trolls

    Don't Feed The Trolls

    Have you ever been caught between doing what's morally right and dodging public criticism? That's the tightrope of leadership we're walking on today's "Courageous Leadership with Travis Yates," where we dissect how narratives shape our decisions and actions and why it's crucial to base law enforcement reforms on data and facts, not emotionally charged narratives. 


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