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    Data Dialogues

    The Data Dialogues podcast brings together multiple perspectives to look at a single environmental data issue. Created by Open Environmental Data Project (OEDP), where we are building spaces to grow the global conversation on environmental data access and use.
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    Episodes (24)

    From mapping to monitoring: the international scope of resistance

    From mapping to monitoring: the international scope of resistance

    In our last episode, we get into what happens when mapping is stuck in bureaucratic limbo. In order to document harm from rampant resource extraction and loss of livelihoods, communities are turning to monitoring their environments. You’ll hear from lawyer Andiko Mancayo, policy expert Anne-Sophie Gindroz, and several others you’ll recognize from earlier in the season.

    Right place, right time: the ideal conditions for a OneMap policy

    Right place, right time: the ideal conditions for a OneMap policy

    In this episode, you’ll hear from some folks you met in episode 1: journalist Bagja Hidayat, social scientist Micah Fisher, policy advocate Anne-Sophie Gindroz. Two new voices include political ecologist Irendra Radjawali and scholar Rini Astuti. Together with Madhuri, they dig deeper into the post-Suharto era in Indonesia, and the political conjuncture that created the perfect set of conditions for OneMap to emerge.

    More maps, more problems

    More maps, more problems

    In this epsiode, Madhuri traces the global origins of OneMap and why institutions across the board, from corporate actors to civil society organizations, thought a map could usher in a new era of land governance in Indonesia. You’ll hear from journalist Bagja Hidayat, policy researcher Myrna Safitry, social scientist Micah Fisher, policy advocate Anne-Sophie Gindroz, and sustainability expert Gita Syahrani.

    18. Building the two-way street between "experts" and "community"

    18. Building the two-way street between "experts" and "community"

    What does it take for scientists and lawyers to really work with communities - and how does it change them? In the final episode of Season 1, Angela talks with Natasha Udu-gama and Jill Habig about how they set up the conditions for community relationships, making the case for personal transformation and culture change in government, academia, and the law.

    In Data Dialogues, we highlight two people working with environmental data and then bring them in conversation with each other. Listen to this conversation on its own or pair it with Natasha Udu-gama's conversation in Episode 16 and Jill Habig's conversation in Episode 17.

    You can access a transcript of this episode and Show Notes on our website and join in the conversation on Twitter @OpenEnviroData and Instagram @OpenEnviroData!

     

    Natasha Udu-gama (she/her) is the Community and International Relations Manager at Thriving Earth Exchange, an organization that brings together local leaders and scientists to create community based environmental solutions.‍

    Jill Habig (she/her) founded Public Rights Project, a non-profit working with communities and all levels of government to proactively support civil rights.

    Angela Eaton (she/her) is the Director of Data Inclusion at Open Environmental Data  and host of Data Dialogues.

    17. Listening differently: alternatives to complaints-based systems

    17. Listening differently: alternatives to complaints-based systems

    Community members should not have to be "extraordinary" to access their rights. Jill Habig, founder of Public Rights Project, uses the law to change economic and environmental systems that allow only extraordinary individuals to defy them. In this episode, she shares ways that she's found local governments, by listening just a little differently, have strengthened their bonds with communities and protected the environment.

    In Data Dialogues, we highlight two people working with environmental data and then bring them in conversation with each other. Listen to this conversation on its own or pair it with Natasha Udu-gama's conversation in Episode 16 and Natasha and Jill's dialogue in Episode 18.  

    You can access a transcript of this episode and Show Notes on our website and join in the conversation on Twitter @OpenEnviroData and Instagram @OpenEnviroData!

     

     

    Jill Habig (she/her) founded Public Rights Project, a non-profit working with communities and all levels of government to proactively support civil rights.

    Angela Eaton (she/her) is the Director of Data Inclusion at Open Environmental Data  and host of Data Dialogues.

    16. Is "more data" the relevant question?

    16. Is "more data" the relevant question?

    Natasha Udu-gama, of AGU's Thriving Earth Exchange, connects residents to professional scientists to answer local environmental questions. Surprise (for anyone working with Western science)! Natasha challenges us to look “further than data” to find the best information and considers how we can repurpose the knowledge we already have.

    In Data Dialogues, we highlight two people working with environmental data and then bring them in conversation with each other. Listen to this conversation on its own or pair it with Jill Habig's conversation in Episode 17 and Natasha and Jill's dialogue in Episode 18.  

    You can access a transcript of this episode and Show Notes on our website and join in the conversation on Twitter @OpenEnviroData and Instagram @OpenEnviroData!

     

    Natasha Udu-gama (she/her) is the Community and International Relations Manager at Thriving Earth Exchange, an organization that brings together local leaders and scientists to create community based environmental solutions.

    Angela Eaton (she/her) is the Director of Data Inclusion at Open Environmental Data  and host of Data Dialogues.

    15. Demystifying data through community data collection

    15. Demystifying data through community data collection

    What’s the best time to make change in your environment? Sof Petros and Muki Haklay come together with Angela Eaton to talk about conflicting climate choices, investing in youth activists, and supporting environmental work in every stage of life.

    In Data Dialogues, we highlight two people working with environmental data and then bring them in conversation with each other. Listen to this conversation on its own or pair it with Sof Petros's conversation in Episode 13 and Muki Haklay's conversation in Episode 14.

    You can access a transcript of this episode and Show Notes on our website and join in the conversation on Twitter @OpenEnviroData and Instagram @OpenEnviroData!

     

    Sof Petros (she/her) is an environmental educator and organizer at Future Coalition. Sof has worked on fossil fuel divestment campaigns and helps youth organizers build community and gain skills in the environmental movement.

    Muki Haklay (he/him) is in the Department of Geography at UCL, University College London. He’s interested in issues of environmental information and public access use and creation and co-founded Mapping for Change and the Extreme Citizen Science Research group, or ExCiteS.

    Angela Eaton (she/her) is the Director of Data Inclusion at Open Environmental Data  and host of Data Dialogues.

    13. Time as an organizing resource - especially for youth activists

    13. Time as an organizing resource - especially for youth activists

    Sof Petros, an organizer with Future Coalition, teaches youth climate activists how to source and use quality data that will help them be more effective in their work. Sof and Angela Eaton think on different ways people can participate in climate justice - especially by asking: we pay scientists for their work so why wouldn't we pay organizers?

    In Data Dialogues, we highlight two people working with environmental data and then bring them in conversation with each other. Listen to this conversation on its own or pair it with Muki Haklay's conversation in Episode 14 and Sof and Muki's dialogue in Episode 15.  

    You can access a transcript of this episode and Show Notes on our website and join in the conversation on Twitter @OpenEnviroData and Instagram @OpenEnviroData!

     

    Sof Petros (she/her) is an environmental educator and organizer at Future Coalition. Sof has worked on fossil fuel divestment campaigns and helps youth organizers build community and gain skills in the environmental movement.

    Angela Eaton (she/her) is the Director of Data Inclusion at Open Environmental Data  and host of Data Dialogues.

    14. Data co-optation, data cooperation

    14. Data co-optation, data cooperation

    Muki Haklay, a geography professor at University College of London (UCL), thinks of environmental information as "an object of wonder" and speaks with Angela about healthy knowledge exchange at the Extreme Citizen Science Lab between local environmental monitors and UCL researchers.

    In Data Dialogues, we highlight two people working with environmental data and then bring them in conversation with each other. Listen to this conversation on its own or pair it with Sof Petros's conversation in Episode 13 and Sof and Muki's dialogue in Episode 15.  

    You can access a transcript of this episode and Show Notes on our website and join in the conversation on Twitter @OpenEnviroData and Instagram @OpenEnviroData!

     

    Muki Haklay (he/him) is in the Department of Geography at UCL, University College London. He’s interested in issues of environmental information and public access use and creation and co-founded Mapping for Change and the Extreme Citizen Science Research group, or ExCiteS.

    Angela Eaton (she/her) is the Director of Data Inclusion at Open Environmental Data  and host of Data Dialogues.

    12. Environmental work creates wealth generation for communities

    12. Environmental work creates wealth generation for communities

    In their full dialogue with Angela, Tico Aran & Darrah Blackwater connect waterways with airwaves, talking through the importance of local knowledge and how to get people to care about the physicality of something that's hard to grasp: invertebrate oysters + invisible spectrum.

    In Data Dialogues, we highlight two people working with environmental data and then bring them in conversation with each other. Listen to this conversation on its own or pair it with Tico Arans's conversation in Episode 10 and Tico and Darrah's dialogue in Episode 12.  

    You can access a transcript of this episode and Show Notes on our website and join in the conversation on Twitter @OpenEnviroData and Instagram @OpenEnviroData!

     

    Albert ”Tico” Aran (he/him) founded Watershed Action Lab, a project connecting local people to the Biscayne Bay in Miami, Florida through soil health, water quality, and community action. Tico has worked with communities and people who make their living directly from the land in the United States, Latin America and Asia.

    Darrah Blackwater (she/her) is an Indigenous Law and Policy Fellow at the University of Arizona working on securing spectrum sovereignty rights for Native nations. She spent a year of law school working on tribal issues in Washington D.C., and has assisted in building multiple community networks in Indigenous communities.

    Angela Eaton (she/her) is the Director of Data Inclusion at Open Environmental Data  and host of Data Dialogues.

    11. Native spectrum sovereignty: the airwaves as environmental assets

    11. Native spectrum sovereignty: the airwaves as environmental assets

    Darrah Blackwater breaks down how she connects Native people to their sovereign rights by advocating for broadband, radio waves, and other airwaves to be recognized as a natural resource.

    In Data Dialogues, we highlight two people working with environmental data and then bring them in conversation with each other. Listen to this conversation on its own or pair it with Tico Arans's conversation in Episode 10 and Tico and Darrah's dialogue in Episode 12.  

    You can access a transcript of this episode and Show Notes on our website and join in the conversation on Twitter @OpenEnviroData and Instagram @OpenEnviroData!

     

     

    Darrah Blackwater (she/her) is an Indigenous Law and Policy Fellow at the University of Arizona working on securing spectrum sovereignty rights for Native nations. She spent a year of law school working on tribal issues in Washington D.C., and has assisted in building multiple community networks in Indigenous communities.

    Angela Eaton (she/her) is the Director of Data Inclusion at Open Environmental Data  and host of Data Dialogues.

    10. Oyster parties for community health

    10. Oyster parties for community health

    Tico Aran, founder of Watershed Action Lab in Miami, talks with Angela about the communal efforts in Biscayne Bay to create habitats for the Eastern Oyster, a keystone species once prevalent up and down the coasts of North and South America. The result: improved water quality, more biodiversity, and a return to play for the next generation of local kids.

    In Data Dialogues, we highlight two people working with environmental data and then bring them in conversation with each other. Listen to this conversation on its own or pair it with Darrah Blackwater's conversation in Episode 11 and Tico and Darrah's dialogue in Episode 12.  

    You can access a transcript of this episode and Show Notes on our website and join in the conversation on Twitter @OpenEnviroData and Instagram @OpenEnviroData!

     

    Albert ”Tico” Aran (he/him) founded Watershed Action Lab, a project connecting local people to the Biscayne Bay in Miami, Florida through soil health, water quality, and community action. Tico has worked with communities and people who make their living directly from the land in the United States, Latin America and Asia.

    Angela Eaton (she/her) is the Director of Data Inclusion at Open Environmental Data  and host of Data Dialogues.

    9. Data is personal

    9. Data is personal

    Gwen Smith and Michael Ogletree get right into the thorny parts of how government and local communities work and don't work with environmental data, in their full conversation with Angela.

    In Data Dialogues, we highlight two people working with environmental data and then bring them in conversation with each other. Listen to this conversation on its own or pair it with Gwen Smith's conversation in Episode 7 and Michael Ogletree's conversation in Episode 8.  

    You can access a transcript of this episode and Show Notes on our website and join in the conversation on Twitter @OpenEnviroData and Instagram @OpenEnviroData!

     

    Gwen Smith (she/her) is a community leader in the historically Black community of Collier Heights, Atlanta and the founder of Community Health Aligning Revitalization Resilience & Sustainability (CHARRS). Gwen uses community-driven water quality and radon science, monitoring, and awareness to connect people to their environment and works with local and federal governments in their efforts to put communities first.

    Michael Ogletree (he/him) is the former Technical Air Services Program Manager in the City & County of Denver’s Department of Public Health & Environment. He is the city lead on Love My Air Denver, one of the 2018 Bloomberg Mayors Challenge winning ideas. Love My Air involves deployment of low-cost air sensors at public schools along with real time data dashboards, education, and programming, to reduce the long-term health and economic impacts from exposure to poor air quality.

    Angela Eaton (she/her) is the Director of Data Inclusion at Open Environmental Data  and host of Data Dialogues.

    8. Data --> trust and alignment (that's the goal anyway)

    8. Data --> trust and alignment (that's the goal anyway)

    In his role as public servant, Michael Ogletree thinks a lot about ways that people use data, both personally and collectively, and talks with Angela about his efforts to increase trust between local air quality agencies and communities in Colorado through the Love My Air Denver program.

    In Data Dialogues, we highlight two people working with environmental data and then put them in conversation with each other. Listen to this conversation on its own or pair it with Gwen Smith's conversation in Episode 7 and Gwen & Michael's dialogue in Episode 9.  

    You can access a transcript of this episode and Show Notes on our website and join in the conversation on Twitter @OpenEnviroData and Instagram @OpenEnviroData!

     

    Michael Ogletree (he/him) is the former Technical Air Services Program Manager in the City & County of Denver’s Department of Public Health & Environment. He is the city lead on Love My Air Denver, one of the 2018 Bloomberg Mayors Challenge winning ideas. Love My Air involves deployment of low-cost air sensors at public schools along with real time data dashboards, education, and programming, to reduce the long-term health and economic impacts from exposure to poor air quality.

    Angela Eaton (she/her) is the Director of Data Inclusion at Open Environmental Data  and host of Data Dialogues.

    7. Sidestepping the information extraction trap

    7. Sidestepping the information extraction trap

    Who is a leader and who can be a spokesperson for a community? Gwen Smith, founder of Atlanta's CHARRS, and Angela discuss ways to increase community participation and share the load with government in environmental justice work.

    In Data Dialogues, we highlight two people working with environmental data and then put them in conversation with each other. Listen to this conversation on its own or pair it with Michael Ogletree's conversation in Episode 8 and Gwen and Michael's dialogue in Episode 9.

    You can access a transcript of this episode and Show Notes on our website and join in the conversation on Twitter @OpenEnviroData and Instagram @OpenEnviroData!

     

    Gwen Smith (she/her) is a community leader in the historically Black community of Collier Heights, Atlanta and the founder of Community Health Aligning Revitalization Resilience & Sustainability (CHARRS). Gwen uses community-driven water quality and radon science, monitoring, and awareness to connect people to their environment and works with local and federal governments in their efforts to put communities first.

    Angela Eaton (she/her) is the Director of Data Inclusion at Open Environmental Data Project and host of Data Dialogues.

    6. Averaged-out data = averaged-out people

    6. Averaged-out data = averaged-out people

    Together in their full dialogue with Angela, Daphne Frias & Jarah Moesch swap stories about disability-related air travel data (or lack thereof) and bemoan the way things break when you look for quick fixes, whether it comes to climate change, disability access, or data visualization.

    In Data Dialogues, we highlight two people working with environmental data and then put them in conversation with each other. Listen to this conversation on its own or pair it with Daphne Frias's conversation in Episode 4 and Jarah Moesch's conversation in Episode 5.  

    You can access a transcript of this episode and Show Notes on our website and join in the conversation on Twitter @OpenEnviroData and Instagram @OpenEnviroData!

    Daphne Frias (she/her) is a 24-year-old youth activist. She is unapologetically Latina. Having Cerebral Palsy, and using a wheelchair to ambulate, she is fiercely proud to be a loud champion for the disabled community. She got her start shortly after the Parkland shooting by busing 100+ students from her college campus to the nearest March For Our Lives (MFOL) event. In August of 2019, she was appointed as the NY State Director for March For Our Lives.

    Jarah Moesch (they/she) is an artist-scholar whose work explores issues of justice through the design, production, and acquisition of embodied knowledges. Jarah’s research incorporates queer crip theory, cultural studies, art, and design practices to develop new models for justice and to imagine new worlds.

    Angela Eaton (she/her) is the Director of Data Inclusion at Open Environmental Data  and host of Data Dialogues.

    5. Interdependence for environmental justice design

    5. Interdependence for environmental justice design

    Dr. Jarah Moesch & Angela reflect on the ways members of the disabled community leverage online spaces to participate in environmental justice efforts, respond to climate events, and participate in all parts of the design process.

    In Data Dialogues, we highlight two people working with environmental data and then bring them in conversation with each other. Listen to this conversation on its own or pair it with Daphne Frias' conversation in Episode 4 and Daphne & Jarah's dialogue in Episode 6.  

    You can access a transcript of this episode and Show Notes on our website and join in the conversation on Twitter @OpenEnviroData and Instagram @OpenEnviroData!

    Jarah Moesch (they/she) is an artist-scholar whose work explores issues of justice through the design, production, and acquisition of embodied knowledges. Jarah’s research incorporates queer crip theory, cultural studies, art, and design practices to develop new models for justice and to imagine new worlds.

    Angela Eaton (she/her) is the Director of Data Inclusion at Open Environmental Data  and host of Data Dialogues.