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    Diversity Ever After

    Diversity Ever After is Baker Donelson's Diversity & Inclusion podcast. We are professionals focused on creating an honest and accepting space for ourselves, our community and our listeners. At Diversity Ever After, we raise awareness of D&I workplace and social issues, we advocate for increased representation and inclusion, and we navigate uncomfortable, but necessary, conversation. Inclusion starts with “I”, so we invite you to listen and become in touch, in tune and inclusive.
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    Episodes (34)

    Empowering Women of Color: The Journey and Impact of CCWC

    Empowering Women of Color: The Journey and Impact of CCWC

    In this episode, we hear the inspiring story of Laurie Robinson Haden who founded the Corporate Counsel Women of Color (CCWC). She explains her remarkable journey of growth and empowerment as well as the mission driving CCWC and its evolution, highlighting its pivotal role in supporting women of color in the legal profession. We discuss the significance of organizations like CCWC that provide resources and guidance for women of color seeking to thrive and succeed in the profession. We uncover some of the key factors contributing to CCWC's success. We also talk about the future trajectory of CCWC and other organizations striving to drive meaningful change to advance diversity and inclusion. 

    Join us as we celebrate the achievements of CCWC and envision a brighter, more inclusive future for the legal profession.

    Our Host this Week:
    Nakimuli Davis-Primer, Shareholder at Baker Donelson

    Special Guest:
    Laurie N. Robinson Haden, Founder, President, and CEO of Corporate Counsel Women of Color

    Do you have a topic or idea that you would like to hear more about? Send us an email!

    Veterans in the Workplace

    Veterans in the Workplace

    In this episode, Oz Sanchez, who has served our nation both as a Marine and a three-time Paralympic medalist, shares valuable insight and perspectives with our hosts about being a veteran.  Some veterans may encounter challenges in transitioning from military service to a civilian workplace.  We discuss the importance of belonging and cultivating a supportive culture for veterans in the workplace, as well as Oz’s journey to joining the military and finding his path after his service.  Join us as we explore the profound impact of camaraderie in bridging the military-civilian gap for veterans, offering valuable perspectives on mental well-being, personal growth, and beyond.

    Our Host this Week:
    Tom Barnard, Shareholder, Baker Donelson
    Martha Boyd, Shareholder, Baker Donelson
    Nakimuli Davis-Primer, Shareholder, Baker Donelson

    Special Guest:
    Oz Sanchez, Veteran and three-time Paralympic Medalist

    Do you have a topic or idea that you would like to hear more about? Send us an email!

    Fostering Inclusion with Servant Leadership

    Fostering Inclusion with Servant Leadership

    Today's episode draws on the work of an extraordinary American, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., who sacrificed so much on behalf of so many. Our hosts discuss Baker Donelson's first annual firmwide Martin Luther King, Jr. Day of Service as well as the impact of serving others.

    Baker Donelson's Day of Service, which was on January 15, 2024, was a day-on rather than simply a day-off.  Various individuals across the firm planned opportunities for everyone in the firm and their families to give back to their communities through service projects. We encouraged everyone to participate in the in-person activities or to reflect on Dr. King’s legacy and create their own unique ways to learn and serve. After listening to some personal stories, we hope you feel inspired to get creative in how you choose to serve and also reflect on Dr. King’s legacy of service and how this legacy can be advanced daily to create more inclusive climates. We each have a role to play in uplifting our communities and those in need!

    Our Hosts this Week:


    Do you have a topic or idea that you would like to hear more about?  Send us an email!

    You Can Be Anything You Want to Be (Part 2)

    You Can Be Anything You Want to Be (Part 2)

    During our first episode in this two-part series, we had an engaging conversation with our guest Tiffany Obeng, who is an attorney and author, about representation and how it is an important step toward creating a sense of belong in workplace settings. In this episode, we continue this conversation by discussing how Ms. Obeng's children's books can help create more inclusive professions. Ms. Obeng's books contain images of BIPOC people in workplaces where they are either historically absent or severely underrepresented while also teaching children about the careers. These images and storytelling ignite children’s imagination as they read about an array of specialties and options even within various professions.  We discuss how this representation helps create diverse pipelines.  

    Join us as for an inspiring conversation as we learn why Ms. Obeng's books and goals of educating children through representation will help create more inclusion and a greater sense of belonging.

    Our Host this Week:
    Nakimuli Davis-Primer, Shareholder at Baker Donelson
    Tenia L. Clayton, Associate at Baker Donelson

    Special Guest:Tiffany Obeng, Attorney and Author – Sugar Cookie Books

    Resources:  Sugar Cookie Books - Career Books for Children

    Do you have a topic or idea that you would like to hear more about?  Send us an email!

    You Can Be Anything You Want To Be!

    You Can Be Anything You Want To Be!

    Welcome to season 6! We have covered a lot of topics in our past seasons, but one that stands out is the importance of representation. Sometimes you do have to see it to believe it. So, in this episode, we are revisiting our conversation about representation with our guest, Tiffany Obeng. Tiffany is an attorney and children’s book author. During our discussion, we learn why belonging and representation is important for everyone but also why it’s so important that we expose children of diverse backgrounds to various professions so they can see themselves in any career and so that we can create a pipeline in various professions. Join us for an engaging discussion about the importance of having access to professionals at a young age and how various industries can benefit from reaching a more diverse workforce.

    Our Hosts this Week:
    Nakimuli Davis-Primer, Shareholder at Baker Donelson
    Tenia L. Clayton, Associate at Baker Donelson

    Special Guest: Tiffany Obeng – Sugar Cookie Books

    Resources:  Sugar Cookie Books - Career Books for Children

    Do you have a topic or idea that you would like to hear more about?  Send us an email!

    What I Learned this Summer

    What I Learned this Summer

    In this episode, some of our Summer Associates who worked across Baker Donelson's footprint discuss their summer experience and how they will use what they have learned this summer in their third year and future legal career. They share experiences on networking, being confident, taking chances, and being willing to grow from mistakes. Whether you are a current or future law student, a legal professional, a recruiter, or a mentor, you will gain invaluable insight from this engaging and honest discussion by the next generation of lawyers.

    Our Hosts this Week:
    Iyana Arrington, Summer Associate in the Baltimore office at Baker Donelson
    Nakimuli Davis-Primer, Shareholder at Baker Donelson
    Amearah Elsamadicy, Summer Associate in the Nashville office at Baker Donelson
    Nick Fowler, Summer Associate in the Knoxville and Nashville offices at Baker Donelson
    Brandee Permenter, Summer Associate in the Fort Lauderdale office at Baker Donelson
    Kayla Pfeifer, Summer Associate in the Atlanta office at Baker Donelson

    Do you have a topic or idea that you would like to hear more about?  Send us an email!

    Belonging = Community + Security + Safety + Vulnerability

    Belonging = Community + Security + Safety + Vulnerability

    This week, our host is joined by some of our summer associates, who share their thoughts about the meaning of belonging and how we can help create a sense of belonging on teams and with colleagues. As rising third year law students, our guests provide invaluable insight into how many in the next generation of lawyers view what makes a workplace great. Join us for an engaging discussion that examines key characteristics of belonging and the significance its presence can have in our work and personal lives.

    Our Host this Week:
    Nakimuli Davis-Primer, Shareholder at Baker Donelson

    Special Co-Hosts:
    Iyana Arrington, Summer Associate in the Baltimore office at Baker Donelson
    Amearah Elsamadicy, Summer Associate in the Nashville office at Baker Donelson
    Brandee Permenter, Summer Associate in the Fort Lauderdale office at Baker Donelson
    Kayla Pfeifer, Summer Associate in the Atlanta office at Baker Donelson

    Do you have a topic or idea that you would like to hear more about?  Send us an email!

    Let's Talk About the Summer Experience

    Let's Talk About the Summer Experience

    Each summer, law firms around the country host summer associates who are aspiring lawyers seeking to experience what it is like to work in a firm. In this episode, five of our summer associates introduce themselves and discuss the key factors that led them to join Baker Donelson as a summer associate, among other topics. Join us for an engaging discussion that allows us to reflect on various perspectives of workplace culture and the effect it can have on the hiring process. 

    Our Hosts this Week:
    Nakimuli Davis-Primer, Shareholder at Baker Donelson
    Tenia Clayton, Associate at Baker Donelson

    Special Co-Hosts:
    Iyana Arrington, Summer Associate in the Baltimore office at Baker Donelson
    Amearah Elsamadicy, Summer Associate in the Nashville office at Baker Donelson
    Nick Fowler, Summer Associate in the Knoxville and Nashville offices at Baker Donelson
    Brandee Permenter, Summer Associate in the Fort Lauderdale office at Baker Donelson
    Kayla Pfeifer, Summer Associate in the Atlanta office at Baker Donelson

    Do you have a topic or idea that you would like to hear more about?  Send us an email!

    Cultivating Community

    Cultivating Community

    Fostering a sense of belonging is critical to create an inclusive workplace climate. What does belonging mean? In this episode of Diversity Ever After, we define belonging and discuss findings in a recent Bloomberg article highlight how belonging is the next step for DEI. Join us for an engaging discussion in which we explore how to tap into employees' differences and unique perspectives in the work environment to create a sense of community and ownership and to maximize work performance and employee satisfaction.

    We hope you tune in to every episode this season and send us any topic ideas you are interested in hearing more about.  

    Our Host this Week:
    Nakimuli Davis-Primer, Shareholder, Baker Donelson

    Special Guest:
    Molly Huie, Team Lead – Data, Legal Analytics & Business, Bloomberg Industry Group

    Resources:
    ANALYSIS: DEI...B? Why 'Belonging' is Law’s Next Step for DEI
    Harvard Business Review: The Value of Belonging at Work

    Do you have a topic or idea that you would like to hear more about?  Send us an email!

     

    The Culture Equation: Balancing Parenthood and Careers with Policy

    The Culture Equation: Balancing Parenthood and Careers with Policy

    How do we navigate parenting while working? In this episode, our hosts discuss the challenges and experiences of being working parents by focusing on workplace policies and the transition of taking parental leave and returning to work. They discuss the policies that were available to them during their parental leave and the support they received from their respective workplaces.  Additionally, they highlight the pivotal role that legislation, such as the Pregnant Workers Fairness Act, the Providing Urgent Maternal Protections Act (the PUMP Act), and the Nursing Mothers Act has had in improving accommodations for all parents. They do so by highlighting the significance that the culture of a workplace has in portraying a corporate company's initiative and commitment to upholding these policies. Join us for an engaging discussion that reminds us of the role that we play in creating a supportive environment for new and expecting parents and the steps that we can take to create an inclusive workspace.

    We hope you tune in to every episode this season and send us any topic ideas you are interested in hearing more about.  

    Our Hosts this Week:

    Nakimuli Davis-Primer, Shareholder at Baker Donelson
    Aaliyah Locke, Associate at Baker Donelson

    Special Guest:
    Shayla Fletcher, Senior Vice President and Assistant General Counsel, Regions Bank, Legal Department

    Do you have a topic or idea that you would like to hear more about?  Send us an email!

    Introducing a Culture of Belonging

    Introducing a Culture of Belonging

    Welcome to the first episode of season 5! In our first episode, we talk to our Baker Donelson attorney hosts about this season.  We get to know each other better and realize how impactful a sense of belonging is to creating the best workplace cultures and team dynamics. We acknowledge that people who feel as though they are part of the team and have a sense of belonging within an organization are more engaged and committed to the organization and discuss some topics we will tackle this season. We also talk about our summer associate program and what we are looking forward to most this summer. This includes having several of our summer associates across the Firm join us throughout this season as guests to share their perspectives on several topics. We will release a special episode to introduce our summer associate hosts, so be on the lookout for that episode.

    Our Hosts this Week:

    Tenia Clayton, Associate at Baker Donelson

    Nakimuli Davis-Primer, Shareholder at Baker Donelson

    Aaliyah Locke, Associate at Baker Donelson

    Lucas Lopez, Associate at Baker Donelson

    Do you have a topic or idea that you would like to hear more about?  Send us an email!

    Sponsorship Programs Matter: Learn Why and How to Get Started

    Sponsorship Programs Matter: Learn Why and How to Get Started

    Do you want to know more about the difference between a mentor and sponsor and why sponsorships are game changers for a person's professional growth, especially those in underrepresented groups? In this episode, we discuss the differences between a sponsor and a mentor, why both are important in the success of developing talent within an organizations, what should be considered when trying to get a sponsorship initiative off the ground, and suggestions for those who do not have access to a formal sponsorship program.

    Our Host this Week:
    Nakimuli Davis-Primer, Shareholder at Baker Donelson 

    Special Guest:
    Paula Edgar, CEO, PGE Consulting Group, LLC

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    How Diversity Lab's Mansfield Rule Helps Increase Diversity in the Legal Profession

    How Diversity Lab's Mansfield Rule Helps Increase Diversity in the Legal Profession

    Diversity Lab, an incubator for innovation, collaborates with law firms and legal departments to increase diversity and inclusion in the legal profession. Diversity Lab’s initiatives are rooted in data, behavioral science, and design thinking, and it is committed to not only test its initiatives but also to share the results and lessons learned. This episode discusses one of Diversity Lab’s innovative initiatives, the Mansfield Rule. This rule is designed to increase diversity in leadership and the pipeline to leadership in law firms.

    When this episode was recorded, Baker Donelson was in the certification process for Mansfield 5.0.  We have since achieved Mansfield 5.0 Certification Plus status.  Additionally, special guest Natalia Marulanda was Diversity Lab's Mansfield Rule Director at the time of the recording. 

    Our Host this Week:
    Brian Fernandez, Associate, Baker Donelson
    Cheryl Hunt, Diversity and Inclusion Manager, Baker Donelson

    Special Guest:
    Natalia Marulanda, former Mansfield Rule Director at Diversity Lab, currently the Talent Retention and Development Director at Gunster

    Partnerships that Help Small Businesses Grow

    Partnerships that Help Small Businesses Grow

    How can you help small businesses become big businesses? In this week’s episode, our hosts discuss how creative partnerships that focus on using your own resources to help others can make a lasting and impactful change in our communities and specifically the economic competitive marketplace for small business owners. The hosts discuss The Light of Baltimore Incubator, created in partnership with Johns Hopkins University, Bloomberg Philanthropies and Goldman Sachs 10,000 Small Businesses to help small businesses grow and advance. 

    Our Host this Week:
    Nakimuli Davis-Primer, Shareholder, Baker Donelson

    Special Guest:
    Alicia Wilson, Managing Director and Global Head of Philanthropy for the North America Region for JP Morgan Chase.  NOTE: Alicia was VP of Economic Development and Community Partnership at Johns Hopkins University and Johns Hopkins Health System at the time this podcast was recorded in early 2023.

    Representation Matters: Perceptions and Possibilities

    Representation Matters: Perceptions and Possibilities

    It is important to have diverse representation of lawyers on TV and in films because representation shows possibility. In this week's episode, our hosts discuss these possibilities and the common themes and biases often portrayed in the storylines of some of our favorite TV lawyers such as Olivia Pope and Annalise Keating. Is the existence of these diverse characters enough of a win, or can the stereotypes they present do more harm than good? Our hosts consider this and discuss the tangible experience in entertainment law that our guest host, Loren Mulraine, has in negotiating the terms of his clients' portrayal. Join us for this engaging discussion of some critical TV lawyer scenes as we contemplate the commentary that these scenes consciously or unconsciously spark.

    Our Hosts this Week:
    Tenia L. Clayton, Associate at Baker Donelson 
    Nakimuli Davis-Primer, Shareholder at Baker Donelson 

    Special Guest Host:
    Professor Loren Mulraine, Esq., Director of Music and Entertainment Law Studies at Belmont University and Of Counsel at Spencer Fane Bone McAllester, LLP

    Resources:
    Why Diverse Representation in Media Matters
    What ‘She-Hulk’ and ‘Partner Track’ tell us about law firms’ diversity problems

    U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson: The Meaning and Context of Her Place in History

    U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson: The Meaning and Context of Her Place in History

    On June 30, 2022, Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson made history by becoming the first African American woman to be sworn in as an Associate Justice on the United States Supreme Court. We had a chance to discuss this monumental day with Chief Judge Anna Blackburne-Rigsby of the District of Columbia Court of Appeals. In Episode 2, Chief Judge Blackburne-Rigsby, who authored a 2010 law review article titled Black Women Judges: The Historical Journey of Black Women to the Nation's Highest Courts, discusses the historic meaning of Justice Jackson's ascension to our nation’s highest court, why diversity in the appellate judiciary is so critical to our judicial systems, and how events in the past few years created an environment ripe for Justice Jackson’s appointment in 2022.

    Chief Judge Anna Blackburne-Rigsby was sworn in as Chief Judge of the District of Columbia Court of Appeals on March 17, 2017. Prior to being designated Chief Judge, she was nominated by President George W. Bush in August 2006 to serve as an Associate Judge of the District of Columbia Court of Appeals. Before that, Chief Judge Blackburne-Rigsby, nominated by President Bill Clinton, served as an Associate Judge of the Superior Court of the District of Columbia from 2000-2006, and served as a Magistrate Judge on the Superior Court of the District of Columbia from 1995-2000.

    Chief Judge Blackburne-Rigsby is married to Judge Robert R. Rigsby, Associate Judge of the Superior Court of the District of Columbia, former corporation counsel for the District of Columbia, and a retired colonel and military judge of the United States Army Reserves. They are the proud parents of a son, Julian Rigsby, who recently graduated from Elon University.

    Chief Judge Blackburne-Rigsby also holds a special place in history as being a part of the first sitting mother-daughter judicial team in the country. Her mother, Judge Laura D. Blackburne, was elected to the New York City Civil Court in 1995 and in 1999 she was elected to the New York State Supreme Court. Chief Judge Blackburne-Rigsby had wonderful public servant role models in her mother and father who supported her and inspired her throughout her career. 

    Our Hosts this Week:

    E. Bahati Mutisya, Associate
    https://www.bakerdonelson.com/bahati-mutisya

    Nakimuli Davis-Primer, Shareholder
    https://www.bakerdonelson.com/Nakimuli-Davis-Primer

    Special Guest Host:

    Chief Judge Anna Blackburne-Rigsby, Chief Judge of the District of Columbia Court of Appeals
    https://www.dccourts.gov/court-of-appeals/judges/chief-rigsby-anna-page

    Resource Guide:

    "Black Women Judges: The Historical Journey of Black Women to the Nation’s Highest Courts"
    https://www.nawj.org/uploads/pdf/black_women_judges_by_anna_blackburne_rigsby_howard_law_journal.pdf

    Checking-in with Our Hosts

    Checking-in with Our Hosts

    We are starting the new year and a new season by checking-in with some of our hosts.  We recognize the importance of having a platform where we can openly discuss important and sometimes difficult and uncomfortable conversations that impact professionals, but you may wonder what we enjoy about hosting these episodes. The topics we discuss on Diversity Ever After can benefit any organization or professional as they strive to be more inclusive. At the heart of inclusion is creating spaces where everyone feels valued and seen, so focusing on inclusion is critical for all of our overall wellbeing. Tune in to learn why we continue to record these podcast episodes, why we believe discussing diversity, equity, and inclusion topics is important, and what we hope you gain from tuning in to our podcast. We also provide a sneak peak of a couple upcoming episodes.

    Our Hosts this Week:

    Diversity in Law Firms: An In-House Perspective

    Diversity in Law Firms: An In-House Perspective

    Firm clients are focusing on diversity internally and with their outside counsel.  While we all generally know what ‘diversity’ means, we all may not have diligently considered what it takes to create diversity in a law firm, worked to intentionally and meaningfully advance diversity in our law firms, and/or identified innovative ways to foster inclusion in law firms that support retaining diverse talent.  In this episode of Diversity Ever After, host Kennard Davis reflects on these questions by obtaining the perspective of three special guests:  Marcus Brown, Executive Vice President and General Counsel at Entergy Corporation, Chris Walker, Associate General Counsel at Jacobs Engineering Group, and Danielle Agee, Market General Counsel for the Southcentral Market at Verizon.  Join us for an engaging discussion on the meaning of diversity, how law firm clients are also working internally to create more diverse and inclusive teams, actionable ways to facilitate purposeful development of minority attorneys who work in law firms, and methods for holding firms accountable to the diversity requirements set by their clients. 

    Our Host this Week:
    Kennard Davis, Associate at Baker Donelson

    Special Guest Hosts:
    Marcus Brown, Executive Vice President and General Counsel at Entergy Corporation 
    Chris Walker, Associate General Counsel at Jacobs Engineering Group
    Danielle Agee, Market General Counsel for the Southcentral Market at Verizon

    Special Thanks to:
    John Page, SVP, Chief Corporate Social Responsibility Officer and Chief Legal Officer at Golden State Foods
    Dana M. Douglas, United State Magistrate Judge at United States District Court, Eastern District of Louisiana
    Nakimuli Davis-Primer, Shareholder at Baker Donelson
    Christopher Joseph, Associate Attorney at D'Arcy Vicknair, LLC
    Karl Connor, Chief Change Agent

    How to Maximize your Summer Associate Experience: Tips for Leaving a Lasting Impression

    How to Maximize your Summer Associate Experience: Tips for Leaving a Lasting Impression

    By mid-spring, law students and law firms are gearing up for the start of summer associate programs, and your Diversity Ever After hosts are here to help! Time spent at a law firm as a summer associate can be a whirlwind of interesting and challenging assignments, networking events, and enormous personal and professional development opportunities. It can be difficult for both the law student and the law firm to figure out how to best navigate this busy time, and naturally, there are many questions (i.e., transactional work vs. litigation, when and how to give and get feedback, and critically, how to ensure that the summer associate experience is a fit for both parties).

    In this episode, our hosts, Reba Letsa and Nakimuli Davis-Primer, are joined by Shareholder, Tom Barnard, and incoming Associate, Sabrina Marquez, for a discussion on how to maximize your summer associate experience and tips for leaving a lasting impression.

    Join us as we reflect on our summer associate experiences and offer valuable insights and advice to help you navigate your time this summer and land the offer at the end.

    Our Hosts this Week:
    Nakimuli Davis-Primer, Shareholder 
    Reba Letsa, Associate 

    Special Guest Hosts:
    Tom Barnard, Shareholder
    Sabrina Marquez, Incoming Associate (Fall 2022)

    Confident in Your Crown

    Confident in Your Crown

    Everyone should be able to be their authentic selves at work, which includes wearing the hair that naturally grows out of their head in natural hairstyles. Yet, this is not the reality for many people of color. Congress has noted the seriousness of this issue as demonstrated by the United States House of Representative’s recent passage of the CROWN Act, which prohibits discrimination at work based on texture or style of hair. 

    In Episode 2, we discuss the need for inclusive views of professionalism in the legal profession, why the CROWN Act is so important, and how the legal profession must adapt and embrace a culture of diversity. The hosts of this episode are joined by our special guest, Judge Ashleigh Parker Dunston, a District Court Judge in the 10th Judicial District of Wake County in North Carolina. Judge Dunston has extensively written and spoken about the CROWN Act. She also serves as a role model by embracing her authentic identity from the bench and promotes an environment that does not pressure black women or any person of color to conform to dated, Eurocentric views of what is deemed “professional.”

    Our Hosts this Week:
    E. Bahati Mutisya, Associate
    https://www.bakerdonelson.com/bahati-mutisya

    Tenia L. Clayton, Associate
    https://www.bakerdonelson.com/tenia-clayton

    Nakimuli Davis-Primer, Shareholder
    https://www.bakerdonelson.com/Nakimuli-Davis-Primer

    Special Guest Host:
    Judge Ashleigh Parker Dunston, District Court Judge in the 10th Judicial District of North Carolina
    https://judgeashleigh.com/about-ashleigh-parker-dunston/

    Resource Guide:

    My Crown is Professional: Wearing Natural Hair in the Courtroom by Judge Ashleigh Parker Dunston
    https://www.actec.org/assets/1/6/MyCrownIsProfessional.pdf?hssc=1

    Creating a Respectful and Open World for Natural Hair Act (CROWN) of 2022 (H.R. 2116)
    https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/2116/text