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    For and Against

    Arguing the toss over the big issues in sport off the field of play, For and Against takes sport seriously....sometimes! David Gill, Simon Johnson, Stephen Reilly and Paul Roach rip apart the controversies in sport and take a look under the bonnet to see what makes the sports 'industry' tick. From the commercial to the philosophical, from the sublime to the ridiculous, For and Against is your deep dive into how and why sport matters.
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    Episodes (54)

    Episode 130 - The Enhanced For & Against

    Episode 130 - The Enhanced For & Against

    For & Against predicted this over a decade ago, now a gaggle of billionaires are making it true: an alternative to the Olympics where anything goes! And some of us are NOT happy!Will athletes be go faster, stronger, higher. Will viewers watch a supplement-supported world record! Will Roachy's head explode before the 100m champion's heart??

    The team also talk Tay Tay and the Super Bowl, Sports Integrity Australia's overreach and an unforgettable RCYC segment featuring Tinder and Mankinis...you don't want want to know...well, actually...you know you do!

    So join us for another great episode of For & Against.

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    Episode 129 - The Hottest Summer Ever…or was it?

    Episode 129 - The Hottest Summer Ever…or was it?

    The For & Against team have seen a few summers of sport - perhaps too many, but still never enough. And every summer, we see challenges to the status quo: basketball on Christmas Day, shorter then longer then shorter BBL seasons, the eternal optimism that football will take over riding the wave of the miraculous Matildas or a shift in broadcast rights that promises to redefine summer sport. But is summer sport reinventing itself?  Or is it a case of the more things change, the more they stay the same?


    The FANDA team are here to break it down and put it back together again in ways you never thought of! And then it’s a trip down memory lane as we assess The Guardian’s top Australian sports moments and determine what achievements are eternal and which might be bright and shiny with a recency bias. Outrageously not mentioned is a three-peat Australian world champion…thank goodness we were here!


    And hang around to the end, when Red Card Yellow Card, which shines the spotlight on sport and sportspeople behaving badly, features some outrageous electric pulses, late night over partying and mindless misogyny. 
    We hope you enjoy this episode of For & Against.

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    Episode 128 - Summer of Cricket, Tennis and Netflix

    Episode 128 - Summer of Cricket, Tennis and Netflix

    What would the 80s think of cricket in 2024? Well for one thing, they would think we would be discussing whether we should or shouldn’t play cricket on Australia Day. Or that it’s a surprise the Windies won a test. Or that the Poms would get upset about Alex Carey being picked in the Test Team of the Year (well, they couldn’t, because Alex wasn’t born yet). Or whether Private Equity should buy a stake in city-based twenty over cricket!
    Well, that’s what For & Against is for…to do battle with the preconceptions of the 80s about what sport looks like in 2024…and, well, I think we just shared something surprisingly psychological about the whole F&A team. Hmmm.


    The team also cover what it means as Tiger breaks up with Nike and whether gambling on the Australian of the Year is, well, UnAustralian. All this, plus a repeat offender in Red Card Yellow Card and you have another great episode of For & Against!

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    Episode 127 - Netball’s Annus Horribilis Makes Rugby Feel Better

    Episode 127 - Netball’s Annus Horribilis Makes Rugby Feel Better

    Just when Rugby thought all hope was lost, Netball and For & Against’s team are here to reminds us all that any sports administrator can have an annus horribilis. The team’s Wing Attack breaks down the pros and considerable cons of Amazon Prime winning the rights to the next few Cricket World Cups. Our Goal Defence weighs up defragmentation (after figuring out what it is) and how Gen Z sees sport differently. Finally, Red Card Yellow Card comes in off the bench for an absolute balls up - a bit like Netball’s last twelve months! Join us for another great full contact episode of For & Against!

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    Episode 126 - The Matildas and Rahmbo Strike It Rich

    Episode 126 - The Matildas and Rahmbo Strike It Rich

    Football Fair Pay, Fair Play and Rahm’s Giant Pay Day…it’s all about the money as For & Against dissect Australian Football’s new Collective Bargaining Agreement, which breaks new ground achieving pay parity for the Matildas and the Socceroos. They also rage against the VAR that penalises Everton but is yet to blow the whistle on Man City. And of course, once again to Roachy’s chagrin and Johnno’s delight, golf is on the menu as we find out just how much Jon Rahm’s PGA integrity is worth…it’s a lot! As are the antics of this show’s Red Card Yellow Card! It’s another great episode of For & Against!

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    Episode 125 - Living La FIFA Loca!

    Episode 125 - Living La FIFA Loca!

    FIFA are handing out World Cup hosting duties like they’re Oprah… “You get to host a game! You get to host a game! You get to host a game!” …and so it falls to your fearless For & Against team to hold the world’s biggest sporting machine to semi-serious account. Meanwhile, there’s a lot of fun and judgement to be had as Netflix make their own cross-over for TV sport and the AFL make plans for Sydney while the NRL is away in Vegas! What could possibly go wrong? There’s also Nerfball (yes, you read that right) and Red Card Yellow Card, in another fun episode of For & Against.

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    Episode 124 - The Failed State of the (Rugby) Union

    Episode 124 - The Failed State of the (Rugby) Union

    Whoa, that sounds serious! Well yes, contrary to popular opinion, For & Against does take sport seriously…sometimes. And so, after their winter hiatus, the team put what passes for their game faces on to discuss the calamitous state of Rugby Union. In other segments, Roachy continues his impassioned if misguided defence of One Day Cricket, Johnno continues his doomed defence of public golf courses, and Reills just smiles when anyone suggest Peter V’Landys and the Everest are going to take over racing! It’s important and serious - unless it isn’t - don’t forget Red Card Yellow Card - and have a great time listening to For & Against.

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    Episode 123 - Ashes to Ashes … Cricket That Is!

    Episode 123 - Ashes to Ashes … Cricket That Is!

    It’s the most traditional rivalry in the world: the Ashes! But can it survive in a world where tradition is for sale? You bet it can as Pat Cummins, Bazball and For & Against come to the rescue! 
    Plus we ask if Esports has jumped the eShark, if Tasmania can jump its AFL stadium issues and whether the Westminster Dog Show is sport or not (hint: it’s not sport, but we like it).
    Please join us for another fun ride through the world of sport as we know it.

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    Episode 122 - It’s The Voice, Try to Understand it

    Episode 122 - It’s The Voice, Try to Understand it

    As sports across the country line up to support the Voice, the team asks why. To understand should they or shouldn’t they, and why it matters, the team brings in no less than PR expert Lachlan Johnston. It’s a great conversation about how times are a-changing and the rise of player power.

    Then there’s coach burnout, CEO shakeout and the world’s most valuable football match (hint: it’s not what you think). Not to mention Red Card Yellow Card.

    This one’s a special one. We hope you enjoy this episode of For & Against.

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    Episode 121 - The Robots Are Coming - AI in Sport

    Episode 121 - The Robots Are Coming - AI in Sport

    ChatGPT would never create an episode like this...would it? If For & Against has proven anything over the years, it's that intelligence in sport is rare. So if you think artificial intelligence would be welcomed to a coach's strategy, a player's training, a commentator's analysis...well you'd be right! Join Roach, Johnno and Reills as they document the rise of AI across the sporting world. There's also the bankers coming for rugby, the Saudis coming for cricket, and patrons at Marvel Stadium about to do a "runner" from Amazon's new food and beverage facility. All that and Red Card Yellow Card...a robot couldn't do that, could they? Could they? Could they? Could they... 

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    Episode 120 - Action Action Action When Adelaide Comes Alive

    Episode 120 - Action Action Action When Adelaide Comes Alive

    Could Adelaide actually be the centre of the sporting universe? The Gather Round, LIV Golf and our special guest, Andrew McGarry, certainly suggest so. Or could it be Las Vegas, which is collecting sporting teams and events like they were Celine Dion or Frank Sinatra. And the NRL wants to go there too…what could possibly go wrong? Well, that’s what For & Against is here for! All this and more, including Australia’s new world champions in It’s Not Sport But We Like It. Enjoy!

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    Episode 118 - Free Speech Just Ain’t That Free Anymore

    Episode 118 - Free Speech Just Ain’t That Free Anymore

    Gary Linekar assists a BBC own goal in the Free Speech League, while locally, Pat Cummins gets a free kick. We’re assisted in our discussions by journalist Kevan Sangster. Also, the NRL and A-League bloat…sorry, float expansion plans, FIFA sees the light on Saudi sponsorship, and is Supercars starting to run out of the ‘cars’ bit? Red Card Yellow Card throws up the usual joys, including in-flight wifi issues at the Yankees, plus a deluded Gianni Infantino (part 56 in a series). 

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    Episode 117 - Saudi Sportswashing Will Eat Itself

    Episode 117 - Saudi Sportswashing Will Eat Itself

    Saudi money is creating controversy in golf, football, F1 and more. But is the Saudi Arabian investment vehicle, PIF, government affiliated or not? Well, it depends on who’s asking - so to cut through the different answers going on around the globe, now it’s the For & Against team asking! Joined by F&A Alumni and global footballing guru, David Gill, the team get stuck into the truth, not to mention FIFA, EPL fans and even Stephen’s beloved WWE.

    There’s also drama at the home of golf as well-meaning members try to fix an ancient bridge but forget to keep off the grass!

    All this plus sports stars behaving badly in Red Card Yellow Card - join us for a hard-hitting, truth-telling, insightfully-irreverent episode of For & Against.

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    Episode 116 - Women’s Cricket Makes History

    Episode 116 - Women’s Cricket Makes History

    The Women’s Indian Premier League takes women’s sport to unprecedented heights. Joined by award-winning journalist, lawyer and Indian sports afficianado, Ritam Mitra, the team breaks down the history-making TV deal and player auction which sees the game’s top female players earning more than half a million dollars for six weeks work. 

    It’s a big moment which could redefine the landscape for women’s sport around the world. 

    The team also talk about the new Olympic TV deal, whether sheep dog trials should be an Olympic sport and, of course, Red Card Yellow Card.

    Join us for this very special episode of For & Against.

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    Episode 115 – Cricket Legends of the Fall in TV Deals

    Episode 115 – Cricket Legends of the Fall in TV Deals

    At the start of the year, Cricket Australia surprised the sporting world by announcing an early resolution of their next TV rights deal. But did they go too early, take too little money and choose the wrong partner? Who better to take us through it than the For & Against team and special guest, Dr Hunter Fujak sports management lecturer from Deakin Business School and author of Code War$: the Battle for Fans, Dollars and Survival!

    On that theme, we also talk about the prospect of Apple getting its hands on the EPL and the highest earning clubs in football.

    We also revel in the knowledge that Australian skipper, Pat Cummins, is a member of two Whatsapp groups called “Legends” – but who is in each group and what could possibly go wrong?

    And that’s before we even get into Red Card Yellow Card!

    Join us for another great episode of sport taken seriously, sometimes, with For & Against!

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    Episode 114 – More Money, More Problems, More Mankad?

    Episode 114 – More Money, More Problems, More Mankad?

    They’re out again, those lists about the highest paid sports people in the world! And who better to tease out the big winners and the big surprises than your For & Against team! In keeping with the theme, those multi-million dollar NFL contracts get put under the microscope for what is and isn’t guaranteed (spoiler: most isn’t) and the NRL try to agree a collective bargain in their own inimitable way (spoiler: their way is bumpy, argumentative and lots of fun to talk about).

    And in one of our most personal and psychologically revealing segments of the decade we’ve been doing this, Johnno talks us through how being Mankadded as an 8 year old turned him into the man he is today – and why he doesn’t think the Mankad is the affront to the spirit of cricket that some people make it out to be (spoiler: not everyone agrees, but that’s why we call it For & Against).

    On top of all that, there’s the latest chapter of Rugby Australia questionably supporting Australian rugby and a star-studded Red Card Yellow Card (spoiler: Cristiano Ronaldo, Michael Clarke, Sri Lankan prophets).

    Please enjoy another great episode of For & Against.

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    Episode 113 - TV Rights Just Ain’t What They Used to Be

    Episode 113 - TV Rights Just Ain’t What They Used to Be

    Who needs enemies when you can get broadcast networks to pay you millions of dollars for the privilege…welcome to 2023! It’s the Australian summer, which can only mean one thing: cricket! Well, two things: cricket and a host of opportunities for the For & Against team to ask what Cricket Australia will do wrong next. TV rights are up for bids and the team give CA all the wisdom they will ever need. There’s also wisdom for and from tennis, as the team get excited (or otherwise) about Break Point, the ATP’s version of Drive to Survive. We hope you’re excited about 2023 and the first show of the year. It’s sharp, it’s fun, it’s 2023 - enjoy!

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    Episode 112 - The Carnival is Over

    Episode 112 - The Carnival is Over

    Carnivals actually! The World Cup is over. 2022 is over. And another year of For & Against is over. World football expert (and For & Against alum!) David Gill joins the team to dissect the world game’s showpiece in Qatar, and whether Australian football has once again wasted its greatest opportunity. Speaking of carnivals, we check in on the David Warner circus and a golden final red card yellow card of 2022. This one’s a good one! Thanks so much for being with us this year.  

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    Episode 111 - A VAR Decision 31 Years in the Making...and the return of the Cappuccino Kid!

    Episode 111 - A VAR Decision 31 Years in the Making...and the return of the Cappuccino Kid!

    Boxing gets a rare run, with an equally rare example of a sport delving into the archives and reversing a 30 year-old result, setting quite the precedent.....ESG finds its inevitable way into sport.....the Cappuccino Kid, Alex Watson, turns good guy and is trying to save Modern Pentathlon from itself (and the animal rights fraternity).....and the 'G chucks its twenty cents worth into Red Card Yellow Card. 

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    enDecember 08, 2022
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