Kinky In The Kitchen

Episode 25: It's Been an AfHair to remember, Ending Season 1 with a BANG!

Host: Lisa. E.


YouTube Version: https://youtu.be/tbYSpqSNeyM (actual full video)

EPISODE SUMMARY

This podcast is dedicated to celebrating the journey of black women to embrace their natural hair, with our host, Lisa. E, aka Natural Born Sistah, who inspires black women to groom and confidently flaunt their natural hair.

In this episode, Lisa E is closing out Season 1 with memorable moments of different excepts of past guests, telling her story about the day she first got her natural hair professionally done, what's to come for Season 2 and more.

Enjoy this finale as it's full of fun and hair. It's an afhair you will want to remember.

Connect with the Host

IG - @naturalbornsistah

IG - @kinkyinthekitchenpodcast

FB - @Natural Born Sistah

www.kinkyinthekitchen. Hair

Resource

Get your T-shirt “NATURAL BY NATURE” white  tee  selected by Javonni  today for only $20 up to a Large @ Natural Born Sistah  All other sizes are at least $2 or more. Thank You For Your Support!!

Episode 24: My Natural Hair Discovery.  There’s Something in the Water!

YouTube Version: https://youtu.be/q39Palq-u6k

Guest: Javonni McGlaurin

Host: Lisa. E.

EPISODE SUMMARY

This podcast is dedicated to celebrating the journey of black women to embrace their natural hair, with our host, Lisa. E, aka Natural Born Sistah, who inspires black women to groom and confidently flaunt their natural hair. 

In this episode with Javonni, Natural Hair Enthusiast and World Traveler of Education, she talks about her experience with her natural hair.  Her experience of being abroad, maintaining her hair and discrimination in Africa allowed her to dig deeper into learning more about her natural coils.  

 Key points from this episode include;

• [02:38] Lisa E. introduces Javonni.
• [04:10] Javonni talks about her educational career, all things international.
• [06:31] Drumline, the quintessential movie of college bands.
• [07:28] Javonni’s discovery of her natural hair.
• [09:07] The Black Travel Movement, how important it is to build connections across the globe.
• [10:34] How Javonni came up with the name “The Natural Travelista”.
• [16:07] Javonni relates her story to Chris Rock’s documovie, “Good Hair”.
• [17:08] Javonni talks about the UGLY PHASE in her senior year of college of trying to transition to her natural hair.
• [20:00] Wigs, how wearing wigs were for convenience for Javonni.
• [22:17] Javonni talks about the preference of twisting, not being able to braid as that third strand trips her up.
• [26:44] Javonni’s Senegal experience with discrimination, while shopping with her host sister.
• [38:05] Lisa E. summarizes the episode.

QUOTES

• "There’s a whole world out here, there’s so much to learn" 
• “My story might look different in the next decade or so”
• “I didn't have much of a routine back then ”
• “It’s almost like a snowball effect of multiple experiences that has led me to want to learn more, want to grow more ”
• “Once I got comfortable with this is my hair,  I just stopped paying attention”

Connect with the Host

IG - @naturalbornsistah

IG - @kinkyinthekitchenpodcast

FB - @Natural Born Sistah

www.kinkyinthekitchen. Hair

naturalbornsistah@gmail.com

Connect with Javonni

IG/FB - @thenaturaltravelista

YouTube - The Natural Travelista

Resource

Get your T-shirt “NATURAL BY NATURE” white  tee  selected by Javonni  today for only $20 up to a Large @ Natural Born Sistah  All other sizes are at least $2 or more. Thank You For Your Support!!

 Episode 23: Styling Aint Easy!  On a Mission to Creating Confidence through Styling

Guest: Tequia Williams

Host: Lisa. E.

YouTube Version https://youtu.be/d8CZTRAF5jE

EPISODE SUMMARY

This podcast is dedicated to celebrating the journey of black women to embrace their natural hair, with our host, Lisa. E, aka Natural Born Sistah, who inspires black women to groom and confidently flaunt their natural hair. 

In this episode with Tequia, Natural Hair Enthusiast, talks about her experience with her natural hair.  Her experience with being a natural hair supporter of the 4c community combined with her own personal experience in learning about 4 natural hair,  she realized that styling was the biggest concern when black women wear their natural 4c hair. 

Listening to Tequia’s story is inspirational as she talks about how she gives the 4c community what they want, by asking the right questions.  It’s not about just posting pictures for Tequia of different hairstyles, she wants them to get it. 

 Key points from this episode include;

• [03:05] Lisa E. introduces Tequia.
• [05:20] Why Tequia left Chicago to relocate to Charlotte.
• [06:00] Tequia talks about how she supports 4c hair in her facebook community.
• [06:50] Tequia talks about how she put effort into seeing what women really needed for their hair, to accommodate the biggest struggles which is styling
• [10:30] Tequia talks about her simplistic hair journey and taking the task away from her Mom as early as 7 years old.
• [13:58] Combining a career in nursing and having to maintain her natural hair, Tequia talks about how important that is being a Nurse, who has to be to work in the early hours.
• [15:45] The results of  YouTube University (as she says it) and how it affected Tequia’s hair  journey.
• [19:53] Tequia talks about how her Sister was the inspiration for her going natural. 
• [22:22] Tequia talks about the exchange she had with her Grandmother, and how she gave it back to her respectfully.
• [24:45] Lisa talks about the days of rinsing her hair to eliminate her gray strands.
• [26:32] Lisa talks about how her Grandmother did not accept her gray and natural hair.
• [33:25] Tequia talks about how she keeps her niece and God daughters uplifted by always complimenting them.

QUOTES

• "There’s power in just accepting our own vulnerabilities" 
• “Love them as they are, and tell them they’re incredible the way they are”
• “I got to understand my hair in better way, a way to bring me confidence ”
• “I don't believe we go through hard times, disruptions and hardships for no reason ”
• “Learn how to do your hair, it’s going to be worthwhile”

Connect with the Host

IG - @naturalbornsistah

IG - @kinkyinthekitchenpodcast

FB - @Natural Born Sistah

www.kinkyinthekitchen. Hair

naturalbornsistah@gmail.com

Connect with Tequia

IG/FB - Jexsii Beauty

FB Group - Natural 4C Hair: Minimalism and Easy Styling

Resource

Get your T-shirt “KNOT APPROVED” white  tee  selected by Tequia  today for only $20 up to a Large @ Natural Born Sistah  All other sizes are at least $2 or more. Thank You For Your Support!!

Episode 22: All Abroad! - No Matter Where You From, The Stories Have The Same Intention

Guest: Oreoluwa “Cookie” George-Taylor

Host: Lisa. E.

YouTube Version: https://youtu.be/Zbn_axA1a5k

EPISODE SUMMARY

This podcast is dedicated to celebrating the journey of black women to embrace their natural hair, with our host, Lisa. E, aka Natural Born Sistah, who inspires black women to groom and confidently flaunt their natural hair. 

In this episode with Cookie, Natural Hair Blogger, talks about her experience with her natural hair.  Her experience with being a natural hair blogger is about her very own personal experiences with her natural hair.  

Listening to Cookie in this episode, you can tell she’s a realist. Listening to her story makes you want to hear more.  Her experience with cutting her hair multiple times and experience with the opposite sex including her husband, shows how strong she was when it comes to making her decisions based on what she wants for herself and not for the men in her life. 

 Key points from this episode include;

• [02:59] Lisa E. introduces Cookie.
• [04:48] How the “Cookie Real Haircare” Podcast came about.
• [09:38] Cookie asks Lisa what was it for her to start Kinky In The Kitchen.
• [14:09] Cookie talks about her hair and how her hair journey started.
• [16:36] Cookie talks about how she did not like relaxers as she was getting tired of it.
• [19:35] Cookie talks about how she recorded herself cutting off her hair.
• [23:05] The YouTube experience that helped get Cookie to where she is now.
• [24:00] Lisa E. talks about her Mission for why she does this and asks Cookie’s about hers.
• [26:00] It’s important for women to embrace who they are, according to Cookie’s vision.
• [28:00] Lisa talks about her reservations about cutting her own hair.
• [33:53] Cookie talks about how a conversation went with a guy she used to like, as he responded to her cutting her hair short.
• [40:15] Cookie talks about how she feels about children getting their hair relaxed.

QUOTES

• "That is what younger people are going to learn, is the behaviors " 
• “I want us as Nigerians to talk about our hair, and open up the conversations”
• “If I was growing out my texture it would be like the most authentic version of myself ”
• “Rather than being a fusion of cultures, you sometimes feel stuck in the middle”
• “If you have natural hair, you’re always doing something with it”

Connect with the Host

IG - @naturalbornsistah

IG - @kinkyinthekitchenpodcast

FB - @Natural Born Sistah

www.kinkyinthekitchen. Hair

naturalbornsistah@gmail.com

Connect with Cookie

IG/FB - Cookiesrealhaircare

Resource

Get your T-shirt “Brooklyn’s Kinkiest” white  tee  selected by Cookie  today for only $20 up to a Large @ Natural Born Sistah  All other sizes are at least $2 or more. Thank You For Your Support!!

Episode 21: It’s My Hair, It's My Story, And I Love It!

Host: Lisa. E.

Catch the YouTube Version here: https://youtu.be/4kQpklcqO_g

EPISODE SUMMARY

This podcast is dedicated to celebrating the journey of black women to embrace their natural hair, with our host, Lisa. E, aka Natural Born Sistah, who inspires black women to groom and confidently flaunt their natural hair. 

In this episode with Jerrica Millbrooks, we talk about how much she loves her hair and the things she loves to do with it.  This 10  year old beauty breaks it down on how important her hair is for her and how important it is for no one to touch it.

Jerrica’s incident with bullying in school shows how she feels about invading her personal space and demonstrates how to handle situations like these in school.   Her predator knew what time it was after the first incident, as Jerrica handled so well.  

 Key points from this episode include;

• [0:528] Jerrica talks about what she likes to do for fun.
• [05:55] Jerrica talks about something that no one else knows about her.
• [07:05] The rocks in the road Jerrica faces regarding  her hair in school.
• [0:7:33] The first incident with her bully, pulling her hair.
• [08:24] Jerrica is talking to the Math teacher about the incident.
• [08:40] The teacher offers Jerrica the opportunity to speak to London (her bully) about how she felt about the incident.
• [09:17] London the Bully, gives Jerrica a new name.
• [12:16] Jerrica talks about what she loves about her natural hair.
• [14:00] Jerrica talks about how the other girls wear their hair in school.
• [14:43] The style that Jerrica likes to wear.
• [16:00] The products that Jerrica’s Mom uses in her hair.
• [18:00] Jerrica talks about the DIY products used on her hair.
• [19:30] Jerrica talks about her horrific experience about using avocado.
• [21:53] Jerrica talks about the heat damage she attained and what that looked like.
• [23:36] Jerrica talks about her edges and the amount of edges she has, she does not like.
• [26:16] Jerrica expresses her thoughts on how she feels when she sees another child not wearing her natural hair.
• [27:31] Jerrica about a young lady she met in school, who came for her about wearing her natural hair.

QUOTES

• "I have a lot of textures in my hair " 
• “I don’t really care about what people say about my hair, you can have your opinion it’s my hair and I like my hair like this”
• “I’m excited to see how many men and women would wear their hair out”

Connect with the Host

IG - @naturalbornsistah

IG - @kinkyinthekitchenpodcast

FB - @Natural Born Sistah

www.kinkyinthekitchen. Hair

naturalbornsistah@gmail.com

Episode 20: Hair Dreams 2 - The Namesake Salon that Inspired my Hair Dreams of Being the Shampoo Girl

Host: Lisa. E.

EPISODE SUMMARY

This podcast is dedicated to celebrating the journey of black women to embrace their natural hair, with our host, Lisa. E, aka Natural Born Sistah, who inspires black women to groom and confidently flaunt their natural hair. 

In this episode with Shalita Grant, Tony Award Nominee , Natural Hair Enthusiast and Entrepreneur  talks about her experience as a young girl in the salon with her Grandmother being inspired by her work and the woman who came to the salon to get their hair done. 

Shalita  also talks about her experience with her hair and show business as the combination of the two, led her to make the most important decision in her life. Her hair became number one which led her to the business woman she is today with a product that will blow your mind.  Shalita is serious about her business as you hear her break down how the product got started and how it works strand by strand.  

 Key points from this episode include;

• [03:34] Lisa E. introduces Natural Born Sistah, Shalita Grant.
• [04:36] Shalita talks about personal and professional history starting from childhood.
• [07:07] The Tony Nomination..
• [07:51] Shalita talks about her start on the TV drama series NCIS New Orleans.
• [17:32] Shalita talks about how her hair is hard to maintain during sets.
• [17:59] Shalita uses YouTube as a way to learn how to maintain her natural hair.
• [30:05] The decision to tackle her hair as an actress. 
• [30:55] Shalita discovers the use of plants in her hair regimen from the Indian community.
• [31:42] Shalita talks about the benefits of what Henna does for the hair.
• [40:00] Shalita compares what her product Four Naturals does compared to traditional methods and shares the steps on how to use it.
• [45:03] Shalita talks about the limited amount of time she spends on her hair because of her unique product.
• [45:45] Shalita shows us a neat hair trick she is able to do with some gel, due to the hair products she creates in one simple step. (see the youtube video for visuals)
• [49:36] Shalita talks about feeling good and looking good and turning so many heads because of her hair.  She felt gorgeous in her own skin.
• [50:30} We call our customers Curlfriends.

QUOTES

• “Technology was not really my jam”
• "Accountability is super important " 
• “Our lives as Black Women are already complicated, our hair does not have to be that complicated”
• “If you don’t heal the root issues, you can’t go quick”
• “The idea of putting oil on your hair was foreign”

Connect with Shalita

IG - fournaturalshaircare
www.fournaturalshair.com

Connect with the Host

IG - @naturalbornsistah

IG - @kinkyinthekitchenpodcast

FB - @Natural Born Sistah

Resource

Get your T-shirt “Kinky is the New Straight”  tee  selected by Lisa E.  today for only $20 up to a Large @ Natural Born Sistah  All other sizes are at least $2 or more. Thank You!

Get your Four Naturals Treatment Set Deal for $99 using code  KINKY99SET.  That’s 20% off the original price of $155.  Visit https://fournaturalshair.com/store/ to order yours TODAY!

Episode 19: Tender Headed - On the Low! Scabs, Redness and Dandruff - Results of the Creamy Crack

Host: Lisa. E.

EPISODE SUMMARY

This podcast is dedicated to celebrating the journey of black women to embrace their natural hair, with our host, Lisa. E, aka Natural Born Sistah, who inspires black women to groom and confidently flaunt their natural hair. 

In this episode with Lisa E, Natural Hair Mentor and Enthusiast, talks about her experience with relaxing her hair and the results of it.  Although the results were not something she wanted, she continued getting the creamy crack every 4-6 weeks despite the scabbing, redness and dandruff she would attain as a result of continuous touch ups. 

Lisa E. also breaks down who discovered this hair invention and holds him accountable to a degree based on the negative effects it can cause to your bodies.  This inventor, Garrett Augustus Morgan created this hair game changing formula in the early 1900s for men and women who wanted to straighten their hair.  Not for reasons of manageability, but for society.  Now this game changer has negative effects on the black community and the only way to stop these negative effects, is to wear your hair natural. 

 Key points from this episode include;

• [02:15] Lisa E. introduces the topic of this episode.
• [02:27] Lisa E talks about how the relaxer would burn her scalp leaving scabs and redness.
• [02:42] Lisa E. tells why she would leave the relaxer on her head for at least an hour. 
• [03:15] Being tender headed was a way to not get your hair done the way you wanted..
• [04:05] We felt more groomed with relaxed hair  based on European standards.
• [04:33] Depending on unhealthy styling options because of the inability to groom our natural hair.
• [05:11] Picking scabs from my scalp felt normal.
• [05:58] Lisa E. breaks down the weirdest s^^t when it came to getting a weave back then.
• [08:40] Garret Augustus Morris is the inventor of the relaxer we call the creamy crack.
• [09:46] Relaxers' limited style flexibility due to its nature of just being straight.
• [11:43] Lisa E. talks about the effects the chemical relaxer had on our bodies, causing cancer.
• [14:35] Lisa E. breaks down what the CROWN ACT means. 

QUOTES

• "We were not enough the way we were naturally " 
• “I’ve seen T.W.A.’s with Relaxers”
• “You straighten your hair with relaxer just to curl it, when your own hair has its own natural curl game”

Connect with the Host

IG - @naturalbornsistah

IG - @kinkyinthekitchenpodcast

FB - @Natural Born Sistah

www.kinkyinthekitchen. Hair

naturalbornsistah@gmail.com

Resource

Get your T-shirt “Natural Born Sistah”black tee  selected by Lisa E.  today for only $20 up to a Large @ Natural Born Sistah  All other sizes are at least $2 or more. Thank You!

Episode 18: Product Challenged?  What does your hair like?

Host: Lisa. E.

EPISODE SUMMARY

This podcast is dedicated to celebrating the journey of black women to embrace their natural hair, with our host, Lisa. E, aka Natural Born Sistah, who inspires black women to groom and confidently flaunt their natural hair. 

In this episode with Lisa E, Natural Hair Mentor and Enthusiast, talks about how it is important to know what YOUR hair likes.  Once you’ve figured it out, you have won the battle and it’s almost impossible to lose the war.  Your hair is just like the rest of you. It has to have certain ingredients to thrive and the proper care for growth.  

Lisa E. also breaks down how to make sure you are using what your hair wants and needs as it relates to products and the nature of your hair.  Taking care of your hair is just the same as taking care of your body.  Natural hair Sistahs need the right advice and care to get the most out of the products they use so their hair can thrive, and grow. So get out of the comments getting advice.

 Key points from this episode include;

• [01:53] Lisa E. talks about the regimens we see on the internet and how it may not pertain to your hair type.
• [03:33] You have to play a strategic part in knowing what your hair likes..
• [03:45] Lisa E. tells how to figure out what your hair likes.
• [04:55] Lisa E. talks about her wash day and how she uses product.
• [06:13] Learn to make the discoveries on your own about what your hair needs to share with your hair professional.
• [06:58] Lisa E. talks about taking random advice in the comments.
• [07:51] Seeing a hair professional is definitely the direction you want to go.
• [09:41] Lisa E. talks about the main ingredient that works for her skin.
• [10:28] Lisa remembers the side effect from prescribed medication she received for her acne.
• [11:45] Lisa talks about how she was able to reverse her breakage.
• [12:38] The importance of seeing a trichologist. 
• [15:10] Take time with your hair, your hair will change as you age.
• [15:45] Lisa E. expresses how much fun she had with you talking about what your hair likes.

QUOTES

• "Trial and  Error along with patience, YOU should definitely know what your hair likes " 
• “Knowing what your hair likes is definitely a game changer or hair health”
• “Let’s start having concern for our hair”
• “Take your time with your hair, it’s your crown”
• “I want you to be your OWN Hair Boss”

Connect with the Host

IG - @naturalbornsistah

IG - @kinkyinthekitchenpodcast

FB - @Natural Born Sistah

www.kinkyinthekitchen. Hair

Email - naturalbornsistah@gmail.com

Resource

Get your T-shirt “Natural Born Sistah”black tee  selected by Lisa E.  today for only $20 up to a Large @ Natural Born Sistah  All other sizes are at least $2 or more. Thank You!

Host: Lisa. E

YouTube Version: https://youtu.be/6AtHhKuHkF0

EPISODE 16

This podcast is dedicated to celebrating the journey of black women to embrace their natural hair, with our host, Lisa. E, Natural Born Sistah, who inspires black women to groom and confidently flaunt their natural hair. 

In this episode Lisa E, a Natural Hair Mentor and Enthusiast, is talking about how Kinky in the Kitchen got its start with the Natural Born Sistah T-shirt Brand.

In this episode, Lisa is breaking down the T-shirt line by describing the titles, and where the names come from.  By the time you finish listening to this episode, you will be so educated on the brand, and you will want a t-shirt of your own. 

 Key points from this episode include;

• [01:10] ,Lisa E. summarizes last week’s episode.
• [02:19] Introduces The Natural Born Sistah brand.
• [03:00] Lisa says the important tagline.
• [03:35] Introduces the Knot Approved T-shirt.
• [04:45] Introduces the Textured Queen T-shirt.
• [07:01] Introduces the Kinky ASF T-shirt.
• [08:08] Introduces Kinky is the New Straight.
• [09:46] Lisa E. describes the color variations of her T-shirt collection and why she chose the color orange for her brand.
• [11:30] Introduces the Natural by Nature T-shirt.
• [12:18] Introduces Say Yes to the Tress.
• [14:04] Lisa E. introduces her location favorite, the Brooklyn's Kinkiest T-shirt.
• [18:35} Introduces the Signature Tee, Natural Born Sistah w/logo.
• [20:04] How Sistahs are recognized in the Community.
• [23:04] Tell your natural hair story to gain your confidence.

Connect with Lisa E.

IG - @naturally_lisalisa
FB – Lisa Smith

Connect with the Host

IG - @naturalbornsistah

IG - @kinkyinthekitchenpodcast

FB - @Natural Born Sistah

kinkyinthekitchen. hair

Email: naturabornsistah@gmail.com

Resource

Check out the T-shirt line here at – Natural Born Sistah

 Episode 16: Natural Hair is Hard, Let’s make it easy with styling tips

YOUTUBE  https://youtu.be/0UfgnCTeDE0

Host: Lisa. E

EPISODE SUMMARY

This podcast is dedicated to celebrating the journey of black women to embrace their natural hair, with our host, Lisa. E, Natural Born Sistah, who inspires black women to groom and confidently flaunt their natural hair. 

In this episode Lisa E, a Natural Hair Mentor and Enthusiast, is talking about how “Natural Hair is Hard''.  No one said this journey of embracing your natural hair would be easy, especially with certain textures being the hardest when it comes to style-game and the opportunity to maintain natural hair health.  

In this episode, Lisa talks about how water is not the best idea for 4c hair types as it shrinks the hair, leaving very few styling options for those who have shorter lengths.  Lisa has struggled with coarse hair and shrinkage at the beginning of her journey and was frustrated at the fact that this tip of using  water, left her without the opportunity to implement different hair styles due to the amount of shrinkage she retained from adding the water. And although adding water is important to any natural hair routine to attain the best manageability, she fought this idea and did not take part in its benefits of softening yet shrinking the hair.

 Key points from this episode include;

• [00:53] Meet Natural Born Sistah, Lisa E. 
• [01:25] Summarizing last week's episode regarding “Hair Shame”.
• [02:15] Talks about her conversation with the other Natural Born Sistahs.
• [03:15] Using water on my 4c texture hair limits styling options.
• [04:48] Lisa E. briefly talks about styles good for 4c textured hair that you should use water.
• [09:15] Lisa E.  talks about not needing a protective style for your hair to grow.
• [11:05] The Wash n Go needs to be moisturized to avoid breakage.
• [14:21] Lisa E. talks about natural hair and the patience to continue being natural.
• [14:34] It’s important for our children to love their natural hair to continue with natural hair.
• [15:16] Lisa E. talks about contributions to the movement and what it is.
• [14:14] Lisa E. offers her services for free of one on one chats to help you continue with your natural hair journey.
• [17:10} Your hair is your lifeline because it continues to grow, and is part of your life in growth.
• [17:44] The more you put into your hair, the more life you get from it.
• [18:44] Lisa E. is rocking the Natural Born Sistah tee to represent and celebrate other women in this natural hair journey.

QUOTES

• “Using water on my 4c hair is not an option”
• "There are variations of  styles you can achieve" 
• “You can enhance your curl pattern by moisturizing more”
• “I want to be accommodating to every Sis that listens to the show”
• “You can do a lot of damage to the ends of you hair”
• “Natural hair can be discouraging”
• “Have our kids continue without diverting to manipulating their hair”

Connect with Lisa E.

IG - @naturally_lisalisa
FB – Lisa Smith

Connect with the Host

IG - @naturalbornsistah

IG - @kinkyinthekitchenpodcast

FB - @Natural Born Sistah

kinkyinthekitchen. hair

Email: naturabornsistah@gmail.com

Resource

Get your T-shirt Selected by Lisa E today, “The Natural Born Sistah w/logo”  for only $20 up to  size Large– Natural Born Sistah

 Episode 15: Hair Shame, We All Have It

Host: Lisa. E

EPISODE SUMMARY

This podcast is dedicated to celebrating the journey of black women to embrace their natural hair, with our host, Lisa. E, aka Natural Born Sistah, who inspires black women to groom and confidently flaunt their natural hair. 

In this episode Lisa E, a Natural Hair Mentor and Enthusiast, is talking about “Hair Shame.  We all have experienced some sort of hair shame in our natural hair lives.  Now don’t look at the word shame as a negative connotation.  The experience of hair shame comes in forms of control and the uncontrollable.  

Lisa talks about how different types of hair shame could affect your natural hair journey and the willingness to accept your natural hair.  She talks about the 3 top shames and breaks them down so that you understand what it means and what it is to have these shames.  Lisa even offers a huge tip to one of the shames she discusses in this episode. Take advantage of her help, if this is your shame.

 Key points from this episode include;

• [00:47] Meet Natural Born Sistah, Lisa E. 
• [01:09] Summarizing last week's episode.
• [03:20] Lisa E. describes what is hair shame.
• [04:25] Lisa E. talks about the most acceptable types of hair textures.
• [06:45] Lisa E. talks about how synthetic hair is not good for her hair type.
• [08:11] Lisa E.  talks about Professional Hair Shame.
• [08:54] Laws being put on our hair so that we conform to social norms.
• [09:30] Lisa E. tells how Google describes the Crown Act way beyond chemical treatments.
• [11:32] Lisa E. talks about when the Natural Hair Movement swept America.
• [13:32] It’s ok to have hair shame as long as you do something about it.
• [14:14] Lisa E. uses the word nappy and says why.
• [14:54}  Lisa E. wants you to identify your hair shame.
• [16:44] Lisa E. talks about her hair shame.
• [17:16]Lisa E.’s solution to trichology.
• [18:35] Let’s talk about your hair shame on the show or in private.
• [19:11] Protective styling should only be used as a break not a solution.
• [19:55] Lisa E. wants to help take you to the next level of overcoming your hair shame.
• [20:35] Reach out to Lisa E. at naturalbornsistah@gmail.com

QUOTES

• “I love the original texture of my hair now”
• "We can claim that the movement has failed black women" 
• “They feel so threatened by our hair that they had to put laws on it”
• “I’m going to share the most”
• “It was supposed to encourage black women with natural hair”
• “The looser curl tribe was more glamourized”
• “You want to embrace your natural hair not hide it”

Connect with Lisa E.

IG - @naturally_lisalisa
FB – Lisa Smith

Connect with the Host

IG - @naturalbornsistah

IG - @kinkyinthekitchenpodcast

FB - @Natural Born Sistah

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 Episode 14:  AFTER COVID,  And Still Afraid to Wear Natural Hair

Host: Lisa. E.

YouTube Version:  https://youtu.be/u4U9z0_wGek

EPISODE SUMMARY

This podcast is dedicated to celebrating the journey of black women to embrace their natural hair, with our host, Lisa. E, aka Natural Born Sistah, who inspires black women to groom and confidently flaunt their natural hair. 

In this episode with Lisa E, Natural Hair Mentor and Enthusiast, talks about what affects did COVID have on natural hair.  She also talks about how YouTube influencers played a part with their video tutorials which were not so effective for every natural woman, however the courage these women influencers displayed to give us an idea, made them the resource to go to and the Original Gangstas of natural hair. 

Lisa E. also breaks down circumstance as an outlet to be who you are.  This means that COVID could have been that one circumstance, that instance that led us to no choice but to embrace our natural coils.  Natural hair in her words, could have been a trend.

 Key points from this episode include;

• [02:06] Lisa E. talks about how COVID made changes to how we wear our hair.
• [02:41] How DIY influencers were learning too, not only teaching.
• [03:12] Lisa talks about how those YouTube influencers were the OG’s of natural hair tutorials.
• [05:19] Hoping COVID would be that circumstance that would allow us to embrace our natural hair.
• [06:02] Lisa E. tells why women did not embrace their natural hair during COVID.
• [11:07] Lisa E. talks about the unlimited amount of styling you can achieve with certain textures.
• [12:01] Lisa E. talks about how she still struggles with her own hair.
• [13:05] Remembering when wigs first came out.
• [13:39] What did wigs do for us?
• [15:00] Natural hair could be a trend.
• [16:08]Lisa E. goes into her conspiracy way of thinking as it relates to natural hair.
• [17:55] Lisa E. shares tips on how to support others in their journey.
• [19:58] Why is this all important for Lisa E?

QUOTES

• “An opportunity to become natural, was due to circumstance"
• "Everything is always going to have a learning curve " 
• “YouTube influencers were the Original Gangstas of Natural Hair”
• “It's no longer the new thing, it’s just the thing, it’s who we are”
• “Popular is right in your face, nothing else really matters”

Connect with the Host

IG - @naturalbornsistah

IG - @kinkyinthekitchenpodcast

FB - @Natural Born Sistah

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 Episode 13: “The Dreaded Wig” My Boyfriend made me take it OFF”

Host: Lisa E
Guest: Terriana Dennis

EPISODE SUMMARY

This podcast is dedicated to celebrating the journey of black women to embrace their natural hair, with our host, Lisa. E, aka Natural Born Sistah, who inspires black women to groom and confidently flaunt their natural hair. 

In this episode with Terriana Dennis,  she talks about her experience with issues throughout her natural hair journey.  The opportunity to stick it out with thoughts of flip flopping back and forth to relaxers, would be the final blow.  She has talked about the support she receives from her boyfriend and an experience of her interaction with him by telling her to take off her wig as she walked through his door. 

Terianna shares her experience growing up with relaxed hair starting from a very young age.  She’s well aware of the reasons her Mother has relaxed her hair and understands.  Knowing that her story is similar to other Sistahs, she is confident that this journey will allow her to continue to embrace her natural hair.  

 Key points from this episode include;

• [03:13] Lisa E. introduces Natural Born Sistah Terriana Dennis. 
• [03:36] Lisa talks about Terriana’s hospital journey.
• [05:35] Terriana starts to talk about her hair journey..
• [06:54] Terriana talks about how her Mom had a baby with someone she just met and how it affected her.
• [07:17 Terriana talks about cutting her hair off.
• [20:02] Terriana talks about different styling methods and looking for someone to do more than heat up natural hair.
• [22:53] Terriana talks about feeling free with her hair styling.
• [36:03] Lisa E. talks about her experience at work of someone complimenting my stretched style.
• [41:00] Terriana talks about her childhood hairstyles.
• [41:40] Terriana talks about how much she loves the Kinky in the Kitchen podcast.
• [54:41] Terriana talks about a discriminatory incident that happened to her while interviewing for a new job.
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QUOTES

• “My hair is a Magic Stick"
• "We’re break the generational natural hair gap" 
• “People think their complements are on point” (Lisa)
• “My Mom was afraid that my hair wasn’t going to grow”
• “It’s a Generational thing, until people like us can break the Generational Gap”
• “Its rewarding to see my little sister naturally experience being natural”

Connect with Terriana

IG - @Clubparadise

Connect with the Host

IG - @naturalbornsistah

IG - @kinkyinthekitchenpodcast

FB - @Natural Born Sistah

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Host: Lisa. E.
Professional Guest: Tesha MacDonald and Taneka Gillard a.k.a. Twinness
YouTube - https://youtu.be/DGYMP1hCJ3o

EPISODE SUMMARY

This podcast is dedicated to celebrating the journey of black women to embrace their natural hair, with our host, Lisa. E, aka Natural Born Sistah, who inspires black women to groom and confidently flaunt their natural hair. 

In this episode with Tesha MacDonald and Taneka Gillard, Professional Hair Stylists and Influencers, talk about their experience through life as foster children and how hair became what they love to do and profit from.  Growing up as children they learned how to braid hair, self taught as Tesha calls it.  Our conversation was focused on the lifestyles of each sister who are so identical in the physical but so different in spirit. 

These twin beauties are both successful in the same line of work, but in different capacities.  Tesha does it all when it comes to hair, and Taneka loves doing the braids and locs.  Tesha is the entrepreneur and Taneka is the professional as a college graduated nurse who holds 3 degrees.  These women are both epitome of success, beauty, brains and talent.  

 Key points from this episode include;

• [03:29] Meet Natural Born Sistahs, Tesha MacDonald and Taneka Gillard a.k.a. Twiness 
• [04:30] Tesha talks about her background in hair
• [06:49] Niqi talks about her natural hair journey
• [09:14] Tesha talks about her natural hair journey
• [11:58] Tesha remembers Diane Bailey, hair mentor
• [16:50] Tesha talks about how her locs were a burden
• [22:22} Lisa E. talks about transformations from Social Media Influencer Krew Kutz
• [25:58] Niqi challenges Tesha about her husband’s opinion of her hair
• [30:57] Tesha talks about lace front wigs being made for cancer patients originally, who have no hair.
• [34:56] Tesha talks about the things that are in braiding hair such as plastics
• [37:24] Niqi talks about being the college girl and Tesha being the creator/entrepreneur
• [39:49] Niqi talks about her and her sister Tesha’s influences in life as far as school

QUOTES

• “The kink is what I need to hold the braid"
• "Braiding was always my outlet" 
• “Locs are nothing but a permanent braid”
• “We can be creative, because we're artist”
• “Our journeys are different and I believe God put me in nursing to prepare me for my daughter”

Connect with Twinness

FB - @Twinness

Connect with the Host

IG - @naturalbornsistah

IG - @kinkyinthekitchenpodcast

FB - @Natural Born Sistah

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Episode 2: The Professionals Edition
Pt. 2 “Entimide” However, Rose as a Queen by Helping Others

YouTube Version   https://youtu.be/NFhfEnUNOkY
Host: Lisa. E.
Professional Guest: Gladia Etienne

EPISODE SUMMARY

This podcast is dedicated to celebrating the journey of black women to embrace their natural hair, with our host, Lisa. E, aka Natural Born Sistah, who inspires black women to groom and confidently flaunt their natural hair. 

In this episode with Gladia Etienne, Professional Hair Healer and Podcaster, talks about her experience being an influencer in the world of hair.  She has helped many women while identifying her own hair journey by teaching women all over the world how to maintain their hair.  Gladia also talked about the stigmatas she’s experienced with her family and others.  She even broke down how 4c hair is a protein texture and how 4c sistahs cannot get the same treatments as any other textures due to the amount of protein us 4c textures that are held on their own without protein treatments. . 

Gladia talks about how she grew her FB page on the strength of helping women with the maintenance and styling of their hair.  She grew her page by researching and sharing advice whether it was answering specific or general questions. What she learned will astound you.  She realized that it’s the same process for everyone, no matter where you’re from. 

 Key points from this episode include;

• [01:50] Gladia started her FB page which was followed by friends and family. 
• [03:23] Learned why 4c hair types were resistant to products..
• [05:09] Porosity tests became more popular.
• [07:42] Gladia talks about how her skin color and hair was a stigma.
• [15:21] Her Facebook page went from 26 members to 5k members..
• [17:17] Gladia speaks about the weekly workshops she used to give at her local church..
• [22:04] 2019 was the year that Gladia wrote her first E-Book “The Ultimate Guide to Rocking your Natural Hair”
• [34.53] Gladia is talking about how important it was to rock her natural hair at work while being a nurse.  Wearing different hair styles.
• [39:58] For you to want me to look like that, it requires me to harm myself to attain a false image of myself, Gladia mentions.
• [42:40] Gladia says she feels like her and her sisters created the “Bantu Knots”

QUOTES

• “I’m big on looks, because I have low self-esteem"
• "There’s a foundation for each and everyone of us.  There’s no such thing as you have good hair and she doesn’t " 
• “Your hair is suppose to thrive, you just have to know how to make it thrive”
• “I went from the bottom of the barrel to the most talked about”
• “I was the black sheep of the family”

Connect with Gladia.

FB - @gladiasnaturelle

Connect with the Host

IG - @naturalbornsistah

IG - @kinkyinthekitchenpodcast

FB - @Natural Born Sistah

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 Check out the YouTube version here - https://youtu.be/09A0UZFa4C0

Episode 2: The Professionals Edition
Pt. 1 “Entimide” However, Rose as a Queen by Helping Others

YouTube Version https://youtu.be/09A0UZFa4C0

Host: Lisa. E.

Professional Guest: Gladia Etienne

EPISODE SUMMARY

This podcast is dedicated to celebrating the journey of black women to embrace their natural hair, with our host, Lisa. E, aka Natural Born Sistah, who inspires black women to groom and confidently flaunt their natural hair. 

In this episode with Gladia Etienne, Professional Hair Healer and Podcaster, talks about her experience being bullied as a child.  Gladia is what I like to call the healer of hair based on her hair journey that allowed her to learn her hair and its beauty.  Gladia took all that knowledge and packaged it into a 2 hour workshop that allowed her to help many women with their natural hair. . 

Gladia talks about her hair events through big chops and curl discoveries.  The more she learned the more she was impressed with her hair and how to take care of it.  Gladia is a real gem, despite all she has been through as it pertains to her natural hair.  And with her resilience through it all, she has become more confident, more educated as it relates to the maintenance and styling of her natural coils. 

Oh and by the way, Gladia is 37 years old.  She chopped a few years off in this episode by saying she was 34 years, when she looks way younger than both ages! 

 Key points from this episode include;

• [03:40] Meet Natural Born Sistah, Gladia Etienne.. 
• [04:22] How Gladia’s natural hair journey started.
• [05:15] Gladia talks about the days of using 2 boxes of perms per session.
• [06:23] Getting teased in school was very traumatic, as she did not want to go.
• [07:41] Remembering the kids in school would pull her hair and call her Haitian Booty Scratcher.
• [11:21] Gladia talks about how people around her wanted to perm her daughter’s hair, because it will be prettier.
• [15:54] Gladia talks about how she wanted to be a role model for both her children.
• [18:21] Gladia talks about watching YouTube videos for her hair and following OG influencer Naturelle 85.
• [20:27] Gladia became embarrassed when her  father would ask her, why don’t you do your hair like your sisters?
• [20:44] Enduring negative comments about her hair, because she was the only 4c texture in her family.
• [32:32] Gladia’s trip to the Dominican Salon.

QUOTES

• “The perm is making my hair look good and long and healthy"
• "I can’t sit here and keep telling my daughter don’t perm if she does not have one example around her to convince her to love herself as she is " 
• “I’m trying to maintain 2 different textures that were complete opposites”
• “I had my husband’s support if I needed to make a decision”
• “Accept what you have and then work with what you want”

Connect with Gladia

FB - @gladiasnaturelle

Connect with the Host

IG - @naturalbornsistah

IG - @kinkyinthekitchenpodcast

FB - @Natural Born Sistah

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Episode 1 - The Professionals Edition
YouTube Version  https://youtu.be/0mp0Lxvcrt8sion
 

Host: Lisa. E.

Professional Guest: Angie Boyd

EPISODE SUMMARY

This podcast is dedicated to celebrating the journey of black women to embrace their natural hair, with our host, Lisa. E, aka Natural Born Sistah, who inspires black women to groom and confidently flaunt their natural hair. 

In this episode with Angie Boyd, Professional Cosmetologist and Podcaster, talks about her 23 years of coming out natural, before coming out natural was a thing.  She emphasizes on why it’s important to be a professional when it comes servicing clients. Angie is a healer through the world of hair.  She’s also experienced stigmatism from her hair instructor in hair school who was considered a black professional in the world of hair. . 

Angie talks about why she doesn't like to use the natural hair labels such as 4 a,b, or c, which were created by Oprah's stylist as a sales tactic for the products he created. Her favorite way of describing hair is that it has a little bit of everything instead of being characterized by a certain texture or numbers and letters.  This philosophy stems from how her podcast was named, “I Never Met a Texture I Don’t Like”.

 
Key points from this episode include;

• [02:50] Meet Natural Born Sistah, Angie Boyd. 
• [05:45] Angie indicates that she is a healer through the world of hair.
• [06:11] Cosmetologist is her profession.
• [07:16] Angie breaks down how she came up with the title of her podcast.
• [09:15] Using texture labels was designed as a sales tactic.
• [10:16] Everyone now wants to have 4c Hair.
• [13.15] Angie talks about different curl patterns.
• [14:39] Angie mentions that she was natural when it wasn’t popular to be natural or acceptable
• [15:59] Angie was very curious about her texture on the day of her first chop.
• [16:35] The stylist told her that she would be looking like a boy if she cut her hair short.
• [47:49] Angie describes the role of a trichologist and why they are useful in your hair journey.
• [50:35] Jada Pinkett’s hair issues are trending.
• [52:00] Angie advises that if you decide to hire a trichologist, make sure you interview them as they would you.

QUOTES

• “If you truly look at your hair texture, you’re going to have a little bit of everything"
• “Their grouping themselves into a category that maybe  they don’t belong”
• “You can’t put yourself into one category when you’re trying to create that typing thing”
• “Accept what you have and then work with what you want”
• “There are so much transformations you can create with your hair”
• “Hair education has changed over the years”
• “You can pick and choose who you allow in your hair”

Connect with Angie.

IG - @syncerelybeautiful

FB –@syncerelybeautiful

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IG - @naturalbornsistah

IG - @kinkyinthekitchenpodcast

FB - @Natural Born Sistah

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Host: Lisa. E - Check out our YouTube Version https://youtu.be/C8ZUb5GWEGg

EPISODE SUMMARY

This podcast is dedicated to celebrating the journey of black women to embrace their natural hair, with our host, Lisa. E, aka Natural Born Sistah, who inspires black women to groom and confidently flaunt their natural hair. 

In this episode with Lisa E, a Natural Hair Enthusiast, is talking about her first day of coming out fully in her natural and gray hair.  She mentions the cost and the amount of time she spent while at the salon, and was not happy to say the least.   Not because of her hair, but her own reservations about what other people would think coming out natural.  She is talking about how she was not the bravest when it came to coming out, so it removed her confidence completely when she saw what her hair looked like groomed for the first time. 

Lisa talks about how confidence can take you to the next level of your coming out or embracing your natural hair journey.  She knows that confidence will play a lifelong part in her journey to remain natural and wants to share this experience with others who are trying to claim this rite of passage. Over time Lisa has come to love her natural coils and the color of her gray natural hair.  So much so, she wants you too to bask in the greatness of rocking your natural hair with confidence.

 Key points from this episode include;

• [00:53] Meet Natural Born Sistah, Lisa E. 
• [01:55] Lisa talks about confidence and the podcast.
• [03:15] Lisa talks about what keeps her going in developing this podcast.
• [03:53] Lisa breaks down the different types of Queens to make a point of being fearful.
• [12:12] The day of Lisa’s natural hair exposure.
• [16:48] Lisa reversed her entire style.
• [18:04] It was back to cornrows and wigs.
• [21:51] Lisa talks about why it’s important to create this podcast.
• [22:45] Lisa mentions how important it is to be a part of the “Kinky In The Kitchen Discussion Group on Facebook.
• [25:06] Let others benefit from your thoughts.

QUOTES

• "You are what you want to be and natural is what you can be"
• "We experience fear on different levels and know what to be fearful of and not to be fearful of" 
• “Your mindset has to shift in order to make a change”
• “It only works if you have consistency”
• “If you can believe, you can achieve”
• “Natural Born Sistah is a movement”

Connect with Lisa E.

IG - @naturally_lisalisa
FB – Lisa Smith

Connect with the Host

IG - @naturalbornsistah

IG - @kinkyinthekitchenpodcast

FB - @Natural Born Sistah

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Sistahs mentioned in this cast:

Jessica Billups

Deatra Gonzalez Townsend

Taylor Briana

Ketisha Philbert

Keke Lashell 

Host: Lisa. E

EPISODE SUMMARY

This podcast is dedicated to celebrating the journey of black women to embrace their natural hair, with our host, Lisa. E, aka Natural Born Sistah,, who inspires black women to groom and confidently flaunt their natural hair. 

In this episode with Lisa E, a Natural Hair Enthusiast, she is talking about premature graying at a young age.  She talks about her issues with premature graying of her hair and the possible medical reasons for its early arrival. She is talking about her life experience in dealing with gray hair.   As Lisa emphasizes, the color of your hair shouldn't determine your beauty and style. Be creative because gray hair can be just as sexy as if it was dyed.  Don’t allow society to determine when you should be gray,  allow nature to take its course.

Lisa has been graying since in her twenties and has recently come out with her gray the same time she did with being natural.  She rather wear her hair the color it is, instead of taking chances with chemicals that can ruin her health. She will also share with you how important it is to know what you are putting in your hair/scalp when trying to reverse nature with chemicals.

 Key points from this episode include;

• [02:54] Meet Natural Born Sistah, Lisa E. 
• [02:54] Gray hair was a bad thing to encourage growth of.. 
• [03:00] Lisa noticed her first gray strand of hair.
• [03:45] Using rinses vs dyes to color the gray hair..
• [04:35] Searching for the answers of graying so young.
• [05:04] Lisa talks about the technical medical terms of graying prematurely.
• [10:22] Lisa's personal experiences with wearing her gray hair.
• [10:55] Lisa’s  first OUT natural gray style her hairdresser gave her.
• [12:23] Lisa’s favorite Starbucks order.
• [17:42] Going back to off black and black wigs.
• [18:15] COVID was a huge eye opener for Lisa.
• [22:18] Lisa’s Conspiracy theorist way of thinking left her with the unknown.

QUOTES

• "I thought wearing the gray hair would give the courage I needed to go natural"
• "COVID was a huge eye opener for me" 
• “I did not care much about appearances, I was sick”
• “This isn’t a hard journey for me to attain”
• “For me, it’s more about my health”
• “Create what you can, with what you have”
• “Are you wood, or are you human Sis”
• “Put health first before looks”

Connect with Lisa E.

IG - @naturally_lisalisa
FB – Lisa Smith

Connect with the Host

IG - @naturalbornsistah

IG - @kinkyinthekitchenpodcast

FB - @Natural Born Sistah

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PPD - Paraphenylenediamine (try saying that word, LOL)

You Tube: https://youtu.be/KNH6Br_MoU0

Host: Lisa. E

EPISODE SUMMARY

This podcast is dedicated to celebrating the journey of black women to embrace their natural hair, with our host, Lisa. E, aka Natural Born Sistah,, who inspires black women to groom and confidently flaunt their natural hair. 

In this episode with Lisa E, a Natural Hair Enthusiast, talks about sex, but not about the act of sex itself, but she talks about having sex with your natural hair. Now for the most part, she is talking to 4c Sistahs who are struggling with the styling or texture of their hair when it comes to having sex. As Lisa emphasizes, hair shouldn't dominate the act. During intimate moments with your partner, focus on what makes you feel confident in that bedroom, not what your hair is doing. 

SHOW NOTES

Although newly natural for close to 2 years, Lisa is no newbie to natural hair sex.  She has however covered her hair using a bonnet in the past, but is dead set against it for new relationships.  She makes it a point to summarize that once you go in freely, it will get easier every time. 

 Key points from this episode include;

• [00:47] Meet Natural Born Sistah, Lisa E. 
• [01:14] Summarizing the last episode regarding Lisa’s personal story.. 
• [02:56] Dealing with shyness and how Lisa showed up on stages and all.
• [03:27] Lisa is talking about the guy that got her pregnant.
• [03:58] The phone rings, it was him
• [04:39] What's the Cherry?
• [06:30] Lisa mentions she never had the sex talk
• [07:29] Romping Shop type of activity.
• [10;14] Talks about not putting on a bonnet.
• [15:41] Throwing on a wig may be an option as long as you have fun with it.
• [16:55] Lisa talked about being guilty of stigmatizing others who wore their natural hair.
• [17:36] Lisa offers great tips on having great sex with your partner.

QUOTES

• " Don’t allow your hair to ruin your sex life"
• "The afro is the most sexiest style for foreplay" 
• “All of this is attainable if you put in the work”
• “Be strong, and fight with the beauty of your hair”
• “You want to be free of your natural coils”
• “Confidence is just you doing it”
  
  

Connect with Lisa E.

IG - @naturally_lisalisa
FB – Lisa Smith

Connect with the Host

IG - @naturalbornsistah

IG - @kinkyinthekitchenpodcast

FB - @Natural Born Sistah

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