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    Pencil Kings | Inspiring Artist Interviews with Today's Best Artists

    The Pencil Kings Podcast interviews today’s top artists to uncover the story behind their work. These interviews are created for you - the Aspiring Artist, the Hobbyist and the Professional Artist. If you are looking for inspiring and insightful interviews from artists all over the world, you’re in the right place to learn the behind the scenes stories of how these artists got started and how they turned their passion into creative art careers.
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    PK 203: Understanding Artistic Identity with Zhiwan Cheung

    PK 203: Understanding Artistic Identity with Zhiwan Cheung

    Zhiwan Cheung is a Fulbright Fellow, artist, video storyteller, and freelance web developer. His passion for art and desire to create has led him to connect with artists all over the world to tell their stories and relate art to culture. His art wishes to explore perspective, signs, and the space in which we aim to coexist with each other and nature. Zhiwan is also the host of the Seeing Color Podcast, where he invites other artists to talk about how they express their vision of the world through art as a medium.

    Zhiwan earned his Bachelor of Fine Arts degree from Cornell University and his Master of Fine Arts degree from Carnegie Mellon University.

    In this episode…

    What does art mean to you? How do you relate to others through conversations around their craft and how culture affects the way we view each other? Zhiwan Cheung, a Fulbright Fellow, podcaster, and artist, dives into what it means to be an artist and what others sacrifice to follow their passion. 

    Zhiwan also says that apart from the challenges posed in conversations about art that involves gender, race, and class, there are also many misconceptions about art school and what path to take once you’re done with your art studies.

    Join Mitch Bowler in this week's episode of Pencil Kings as he talks with fellow podcaster and artist,  Zhiwan Cheung, of the Seeing Color podcast, about how to engage in honest conversations about art and about the importance of creating your vision of what you want your art to accomplish. He also talks about how he encourages artists to push beyond the boundaries, the common misconceptions people have about art school, and how to forge your path after you finish your art studies. Stay tuned.

    PK 202: Quality Over Quantity In Your Art And Life with Liron Yanconsky, Liron Art LLC

    PK 202: Quality Over Quantity In Your Art And Life with Liron Yanconsky, Liron Art LLC

    Liron Yanconsky is an artist, author, creator, and a watercolor painter. Liron is from Israel and he has started multiple businesses focused on art and health, and it’s his personal mission to inspire several artists to spread and improve their craft without foregoing the quality of their dedication to art. Liron is the owner and founder of Liron Art LLC and Liron Yanconsky Books, both of which are dedicated to spreading and educating people who wish to follow their passion in art.

    In this episode…

    What inspires us to follow our passion? And how can our passion change the lives of those around us? Art is one of the most diverse fields of study and exploration, and with so many resources at the tip of your fingers, it becomes easier to dive into your creative pursuits. Liron Yanconsky is an artist and an author, but above all, he is an educator who wishes to encourage others to pursue their passion and grow their craft. 

    In this week's episode of Pencil Kings, Mitch Bowler talks to Liron Yanconsky, founder of Liron Art LLC, and Liron Yanconsky Books where they discuss pursuing art and maintaining the quality of your art. Liron also talks about his passion for the arts, how he created his brand, and why he has chosen to connect with fellow artists and fans through social media. Stay Tuned. 

    PK 201: Creative Side Hustles and Natural Light Photography with Sandra Coan, Founder of Sandra Coan Photography

    PK 201: Creative Side Hustles and Natural Light Photography with Sandra Coan, Founder of Sandra Coan Photography

    Sandra Coan is an award-winning photographer, industry educator, and the best selling author of Crafting Your Ideal Light. She specializes in studio portraiture, artificial lighting, and fine art film photography. In addition to running her busy Seattle, Washington studio, Sandra Coan Photography,  she also teaches photographers around the world how 

    to create a natural-looking light with strobes and flashes. She continues to inspire old and new photographers with her attention to detail and love for natural light photography.

    In this episode…

    How does a teacher with thousands of dollars in student loans become an award-winning photographer and public speaker by pursuing her hobby as a side hustle? How does a small studio establish their brand without compromising their brand name or their quality? Sandra Coan, best selling author and passionate photographer, has established herself as an undeniable resource for those who are looking to hone their photography skills particularly for those who want to use natural light in their photos. 


    In this week's episode, Mitch Bowler talks to Sandra Coan, author of Crafting the Natural Light Look: The One-Light Approach to Creating Striking Portraits with a Strobe or Flash, about her journey from teacher to photographer. She also talks about how to build your brand and leave a distinguished impression amongst your clients, what natural light means and how to use it to capture incredible photos, and find out how her latest book can help you become better at photography. Stay Tuned.

    PK 200: What I Learned from 4 Years of Interviewing Artists, with Youngman Brown, Host of Your Creative Push Podcast.

    PK 200: What I Learned from 4 Years of Interviewing Artists, with Youngman Brown, Host of Your Creative Push Podcast.

    Youngman Brown is the creator of Your Creative Push Podcast, where he interviews artists from all walks of life to tell their story and how they pursue the art they love. He has aired 350 episodes since the culmination of his project and has motivated hundreds of individuals to be creative in their own way. Youngman hopes to create an environment where artists can grow and connect with their fellow creatives.

    In this episode…

    The art we choose to pursue has a way of breaking down walls and creating opportunities to connect with others. Art connects our community, and in the midst of a pandemic, we realize that taking the time to learn new things and building a community is an important part of being human existence. And Youngman Brown has made it his duty to help artists connect with each other, to build a community, and he wants to share inspiring stories of the many different artists who make up the vibrant world of art.

    Join Mitch Bowler in this episode of the Pencil King Show as he talks with Youngman Brown, the host of Your Creative Push Podcast, about the various artists he has had the privilege of speaking with, the importance of community in the art space, and the most common struggles of artists on a daily basis. They also talk about Youngman’s podcast, his journey back to writing, and why he decided to embrace Youtube as a new platform for his passion and advocacies. Stay tuned.

    PK 199: How to Pursue Art Wherever You Live

    PK 199: How to Pursue Art Wherever You Live

    Mitch Bowler is an artist and he is the founder of Pencil Kings, a company that helps artists hone their skills and develop their craft. He is also the co-founder of Evolve Artist Training, a program meant to help creatives develop their professional art skills. Mitch has worked for more than two decades with various artists and has worked behind the scenes for companies such as Pixar, Activision, Marvel, and Dungeons and Dragons.

    In this episode…

    Taking the time to hone your art skill without the right resources can be extremely difficult. While there are plenty of guides and manuals on how to draw, finding the proper structure that compliments your learning style and furthers your skill is what Mitch Bowler aims to do. And this is exactly why he founded Pencil Kings, to help young artists embrace and enhance their artistic ability and open up doors for them in the colorful world of the arts.

    Join Mitch Bowler, host of the Pencil Kings podcast, as he talks about his journey and his passion for the arts with John Corcoran of Rise25. Mitch talks about growing up without mentors but still being able to find ways to further his craft, why he’s so intent on transforming art education, and how people can pursue art wherever they are with whatever means they have. Stay Tuned. 

     

    PK 198: Should You Pay for Art Education?

    PK 198: Should You Pay for Art Education?

    Mitch Bowler is an artist and he is the founder of Pencil Kings, a company that helps artists hone their skills and develop their craft. He is also the co-founder of Evolve Artist Training, a program meant to help creatives develop their professional art skills. Mitch has worked for more than two decades with various artists and has worked behind the scenes for companies such as Pixar, Activision, Marvel, and Dungeons and Dragons.

    In this episode...

    What was the first thing you remember drawing? Was it a toy truck, your parents, or scribbles left up to interpretation? Perhaps you continued to draw to gain experience in one of the most diverse industries? Or maybe you didn't like your art and decided to focus on other things until you found yourself wanting to explore your creative prowess? Regardless of the reason, you have decided to pursue art in its many mediums, and choosing which one to go for may be a bit confusing. Mitch Bowler hopes to help solve these questions of what to do next and how you should learn and include the lessons you learn in art into your professional space. 

    Join Mitch Bowler, host of the Pencil Kings podcast, as he talks about his journey and passion for the arts with John Corcoran of Rise25. Tune in as Mitch discusses the different avenues for people to learn and hone their skills and talents in the arts, the importance of using the right tools, and how having a mentor can be a big boost to aspiring artists.

    PK 197: Breaking into Book Covers with Lauren Panepinto

    PK 197: Breaking into Book Covers with Lauren Panepinto

    Lauren Panepinto is the Vice President & Creative Director at Orbit Books at Hachette Book Group, and in this episode, we'll deep dive into what it takes to break into the world of book illustration, and as you'll learn it's not always about being 'the best artist' in the room.

    There's so much info jam-packed into this that if you're looking to get into book covers I suggest that you take notes throughout the entire interview because this is your blueprint.

    00:38 - What does really 'getting out there' look like for a book cover art director
    01:49 - How Lauren approaches portfolio reviews to help artists get clarity on what their next steps could look like
    03:44 - Info on the cheat sheet guides that Lauren helped put together to instruct artists on their next steps
    05:11 - How did you get into the world of art directing, and what does a book cover art director do?
    11:27 - What does an art director look for in a portfolio that artists might not be thinking about?
    15:55 - How to start building a portfolio specifically for book covers (and why including type in your work often makes it look worse)
    22:14 - What catches Lauren's eye when she's looking at a portfolio so you can stand out?
    26:38 - Which books do you recommend to get a good sense of the best work that you can use to research and inform your own style?
    29:20 - Why subject matter knowledge is more important than technical skills as an artist
    31:35 - How to make life easier for the art director (and increase your chances of getting hired over and over again)
    38:41 - Advice for the first phase of your career in book covers, before you land your first job
    40:43 - How much of a difference is it when you meet someone who could hire you in person vs just emailing someone quarterly updates


    Check Out Lauren on the Web:
    Web: http://www.laurenpanepinto.com/
    Twitter: @Planetpinto
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lauren.panepinto
    Instagram: @planetpinto
    Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/planetpinto/
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpanepinto


    Links Mentioned in This Episode:
    Marc Scheff - https://www.marcscheff.com/
    Artistacon - https://www.artistacon.net/
    Drawn and Drafted - http://www.drawnanddrafted.com/
    Art Business Bootcamp PDFs (Lauren & Marc's artist cheat sheets) https://gumroad.com/drawnanddrafted
    Make Your Art Work - https://www.makeyourartwork.com/
    Orbit Books - https://www.orbitbooks.net/
    Jon Schindehette - https://theartorder.com/
    Richard Anderson - https://www.artstation.com/flaptrapsart
    Donato Giancola - https://donatoarts.com/

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    Looking for a fun, easy-going approach to learning art?
    http://www.pencilkings.com

    Want to learn to create realistic artwork?
    http://www.pencilkings.com/evolve

    Grab Mitch's Book:
    Digital Artist Career Blueprint Physical Book: https://amzn.to/2VmUybF
    EBook: https://amzn.to/2Xo4P9g

    PK 196: Marketing for Artists with Cindy Hohman

    PK 196: Marketing for Artists with Cindy Hohman

    Cindy Hohman from ArtMarketingProject.com helps artists market and sell their work by showing them how to be effective and efficient with marketing and empowering them to take the reins themselves.  In addition to working with artists one on one she also teaches marketing at the university level.

    She works with a large range of artists from abstract artists to those working in illustration and photography.

    3:30 - How does your marketing advice apply to artists in different markets?

    6:47 - A lot of skills in life come down to 10% learning and 90% doing, but have you found this also to be true when it comes to marketing?

    09:20 - Using strategy, so you're not spinning your wheels and doing things that feel icky

    11:10 - How to help artists through the paralyzing fear of having too many options

    15:04 - Discussing the size of the artist's audience and how that can affect (or not) the ideas of bringing new projects and products to market

    17:05 - How to start building an audience (both with and without social media)

    25:17 - The main way Cindy works with and helps artists... by getting them to do the things they know they should, but are procrastinating on

    31:40 - Exploring the idea of the artist mindset

    34:25 - Who are the right types of artists to work with Cindy to help improve their marketing?

    35:52 - How can artists stand out and have their work be seen?

    PK 195: Living a Fully Creative Life with Derek Rodenbeck

    PK 195: Living a Fully Creative Life with Derek Rodenbeck

    Ever since meeting Derek I've been fascinated by his lifestyle and willingness to explore, discover and continually reinvent himself.

    As a comic book creator, father, photographer, traveler, bodybuilder... there's just so many different interesting angles and I always love keeping up to hear what Derek has been up to recently.

    6:07 - Derek catches us up on what's been going on since the last time we talked when he had just left on a road trip to 'be more one with nature'

    14:10 - Travelling through Death Valley and rescuing someone from a burning truck

    16:44 - Earning an income while on the road and being 'irresponsible' while having the trip of a lifetime

    18:40 - How traveling together can test and grow your relationship

    20:18 - Making money with Pokemon Go and how that experience taught him that money isn't everything, and how Derek is making money now on Craigslist

    27:02 - What happened after the trip, and how Derek is finding creative fulfillment through Photography after so many years spent working as a comic book creator

    36:25 - As someone who was interested in and working on comics before, and knowing what you know now, what would you tell your former self about comic books specifically?

    41:10 - Advice to wannabe comic creators

    43:57 - Pivoting and creating new creative projects to stay inspired

    PK 194: The Journey to Building a Large Body of Artwork

    PK 194: The Journey to Building a Large Body of Artwork

    Arthur Haywood is working to creating art that inspires people to learn and want to read about the stories behind what the viewer sees. He is a classically trained painter and has created an incredible body of work for his book, The Great Library.

    In this interview, we talk about Arthur's journey and how he learned from several different schools to develop the skillset he now has.

    1:30 - How Arthur and Mitch met at Artistacon when Arthur was showing his book of work
    2:55 - Arthur describing his book covering scholars from the ancient library of Alexandria and what inspired him to undertake such an ambitious project
    7:00 - How video games can allow us to get a glimpse into the past and experience locations like the Great Library of Alexandria
    8:52 - Arthur discusses the time it takes to create his paintings which are done in the classical style
    11:00 - Discussing the time it takes to create great work and the mental shift that has to happen to fully understand the art-making process
    25:00 - The difference between "Owning" knowledge vs only having theory
    29:50 - What's next for Arthur

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    Links mentioned in this Episode:
    Artistacon: https://www.artistacon.net
    Grand Central Atelier: https://grandcentralatelier.org
    Maryland Institute College of Art: https://www.mica.edu
    Caimbridge Street Studios: http://www.cambridgeststudios.com

    Check out more of Arthur’s Work at:
    Web: http://www.arthurhaywood.com
    Arthur's Book, The Great Library: http://www.arthurhaywood.com/p/the-great-library.html

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    Looking for a fun, easy-going approach to learning art?
    http://www.pencilkings.com

    Want to learn to paint like Arthur?
    http://www.pencilkings.com/evolve

    Grab Mitch's Book:
    Digital Artist Career Blueprint Physical Book: https://amzn.to/2VmUybF
    EBook: https://amzn.to/2Xo4P9g

    PK 193: How to Unlock Your Full Creative Potential

    PK 193: How to Unlock Your Full Creative Potential

    Rayna was stuck for 15 years... and then 3 questions changed everything.

    The questions allowed her to see her life from a completely different view allowing all kinds of amazing opportunities to come her way and now she helps other artists do the same.

    This fascinating conversation continues on with the creative coaches we've been speaking with to dig even deeper and see just how crucial your mindset is to everything you do.

    If you’ve felt like you’ve been held back, or that everyone else around you is making easier progress your own mind could be the only thing holding you back.  As you listen to this episode ask yourself where you may have your own mindset blocks that need attention.

     

    Highlights:

    1:07: Rayna's Introduction

     

    2:19: How do you explain mindset and how has changing your own mindset led to better results in your life?

    4:38: How long did you stay stuck with a mindset that was holding you back?

    10:05: When you switched your mindset after 15 years, did the change stick?

    12:58: How to get past the firm belief that anything in life worth doing requires hard work?

    17:06: Using your mindset to allow for more time in your life so you can be in flow and allow things to happen naturally

    21:28: Moving past judgment of yourself and of others to be creatively free

    23:29: Does your mindset allow you to only bring good people and work into your life?

    28:20: An example of where mindsets can be created as a child and stick with you for your entire life

    30:20: An example of what happens when an artist switches their money mindset issue

    33:46: What stops us from moving forward towards our goals even when we know it's safe?

     

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    Links mentioned in this Episode:

    The Big Leap Book: https://amzn.to/2U1DfzL

     

    Check out more of Rayna’s Work at:

    Web: https://www.flowcoachingforartists.com/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/flow_coaching_for_artists/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Flowcoachingforartists/

     

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    Looking for a fun, easy-going approach to learning art?
    http://www.pencilkings.com

    Want to learn artistic mastery?
    http://www.pencilkings.com/evolve

    Grab Mitch's Book: Digital Artist Career Blueprint
    Physical Book: https://amzn.to/2VmUybF
    EBook: https://amzn.to/2Xo4P9g

    PK 191: Do you Love your art?

    PK 191: Do you Love your art?

    In this episode, Mitch talks about how you feel about the art that you are making and why if you aren't loving it, you could be in for a very rocky road.

    But even if you don't love it and still want to do it there is hope!

    The reason why it's important to realize this is that the people who really love what they are doing are actually quite rare, and this love can take you very far in any direction you want.

    However, where it gets dangerous is when you are the person who doesn't have the love for what you are doing and you are taking advice from someone who does have the love and passion... in this case, no matter what you try to do to follow the advice it's going to be very difficult because you're missing the key ingredient - LOVE!

    But what if you don't have or can't find the love?! Does this mean you should just give up? Not at all! If this is you, then you can use careful selection to find the program that will give you the end result you want or keep trying different creative projects until you find one that lights you up.


    Highlights:

    1:00 - Needing a foundation before any art advice can be applied to yourself

    2:30 - Understanding the journey to find what you love in art

    4:45 - Try different creative areas quickly and painlessly to find the one you love without spending any money

    6:57 - How to determine if you love something or not by trying several different things

    14:19 - The difference between people who have a love for their craft and everyone else

    15:32 - When you try to do creative work, do yourself a favor and turn off your phone to avoid distractions

    16:47 - How to become a working professional if you don't have or can't find the love?

    20:28 - How to use the Digital Artist Career Blueprint book to chart your own creative career path

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    Links mentioned in this Episode:

    Looking for a fun, easy-going approach to learning art?
    http://www.pencilkings.com

    Want to learn artistic mastery?
    http://www.pencilkings.com/evolve

    More Videos and Interviews!
    http://www.pencilkings.com/show

    Digital Artist Career Blueprint – Get your copy today!
    Physical Book: https://amzn.to/2VmUybF
    EBook: https://amzn.to/2Xo4P9g

    PK 191: 3 Simple Steps to Start Your Art Career

    PK 191: 3 Simple Steps to Start Your Art Career

    This interview with Catherine Orer from theArtistEntrepreneur.com was like a rapid-fire Question and Answer session all around the topic of how do you take the next steps to build a viable art career. You'll also learn how artists make the process harder than it needs to be so you can get onto the fast track instead of being stuck.

    If you feel like you aren't making progress OR if you've always wondered what your next step should be - listen up because it's all covered in this interview!

    Catherine helps artists all over the world develop their entrepreneurial strategy which goes far beyond just selling their art. She works with artists on their long term vision and then helps them to turn that vision into reality.

    One idea that has come up several times in past interviews is 'going all-in' on your art. While that may be the fastest way, it's certainly not the only way. Going all-in makes sense when you have a clear vision, a proven plan and the support network to make it all happen. However, without those key pieces it can be a tough road and as you'll hear - it's completely OK to take it slower.

    If you're just starting out here are your next 3 action steps, it's right at 21:38:
    - Get a consistent body of work
    - Figure out what your story is
    - Look at who is around you and start surrounding yourself with the right people who can support your vision and journey

    Highlights:
    2:50 - How artists have a blind spot that is keeping them back from being able to make forward progress
    5:00 - How to start challenging everything you do, so you can start getting different results
    6:40 - The biggest hurdles that keep artists from growing
    9:20 - What roadblocks to we are artists create for ourselves to prevent us from being able to really 'lean in' to the life that we want
    14:45 - Why treating your art like you treat your day job often leads to poor results
    15:35 - Why artists are so good at making their journey into a confusing mess
    17:40 - The difference between creative and technician work
    21:38 - What are the first steps for someone to take who has never sold or shown any of their work, but aspires to grow as an artist
    31:20 - How to explain your story as an artist, and what to do if you think you have nothing interesting to say
    37:00 - Quick recap of the 3 action items to take the next step with your art career
    38:54 - Details on Catherine's upcoming workshop on March 14: "How to grow your art business in 2019 without sacrificing your creative practice"

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    Links mentioned in this Episode:
    You won't be getting a Medal for this: http://theartistentrepreneur.com/blog/2017/1/21/you-wont-be-getting-a-medal-for-this
    Simon Sinek: Start with Why - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ZoJKF_VuA
    The Artist's Way Julia Cameron: https://amzn.to/2Hf9bKi

    Check out more of Catherine’s Work at:
    Web: http://theartistentrepreneur.com
    Resources: http://theartistentrepreneur.com/resources-library
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/catherineorer/
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theartistentrepreneurcoach
    Lab: http://theartistentrepreneur.com/lab
    ** March 14, 2019 Workshop: http://bit.ly/2ITNC4m

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    Looking for a fun, easy-going approach to learning art?
    http://www.pencilkings.com

    Want to learn artistic mastery?
    http://www.pencilkings.com/evolve

    Grab my Book: Digital Artist Career Blueprint
    Physical Book: https://amzn.to/2VmUybF
    EBook: https://amzn.to/2Xo4P9g

    PK 190: Artist Business Insights with Suzanne Redmond

    PK 190: Artist Business Insights with Suzanne Redmond

    Suzanne Redmond has been interviewing artists for the Left Brain Artist Podcast just like we do with the Pencil Kings show and in this episode of the show she comes on to share a lot of the wisdom she has gained.

    Formerly being an accountant, Suzanne brings an interesting voice to the creative conversations because she has the business background that when combined with artists can see things in a different light.

    You'll learn from 3 separate stories Suzanne has discovered where artists are using to live more creatively, as well as how she approached the huge project of getting her podcast off the ground and how you can use the same framework for any project you would like to start.

    Highlights:

    0:30 - Why Instagram is so good for artists

    1:30 - Where the idea for the Left Brain Artist podcast came from and how Suzanne went from being an accountant to getting heavily involved with artists

    5:32 - Suzanne's excellent mini artist-business episodes

    9:34 - What are some of the big insights you've had from your interviews that you can share with the Pencil Kings audience?

    9:50 - How to get back into art by setting a goal to make one piece of 7 days

    12:01 - Thinking outside the box to come up with creative ways to overcome financial challenges as an artist

    14:04 - Finding other ways to generate income with your art other than simply selling what is on the canvas

    17:30 - How changing your thoughts on what you can sell can lead to new, more lucrative ideas

    23:27 - How to break into new types of art (for example doing murals) by collaborating with or simply helping out other artists by offering to be an assistant

    24:34 - Overcoming the challenges of taking on a big personal project and in the process becoming an expert in the process

    34:00 - When you're approaching a project you've never done before how do you estimate and plan your time?

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    Links mentioned in this Episode:
    Wellington Art Society - http://www.wellingtonartsociety.org
    Jennifer Love Gironda - https://www.jenniferlovegironda.com
    Carrie Schmitt - http://www.carrieschmittdesign.com
    Craig McInnis - https://www.craigmcinnis.com

    Check out more of Suzanne’s Work at:
    Left Brain Artist Podcast: https://suzanneredmond.com
    Suzanne's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/suzanneredmondart

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    Looking for a fun, easy-going approach to learning art?
    http://www.pencilkings.com/join

    Want to learn artistic mastery?
    http://www.pencilkings.com/evolve

    Grab my Book: Digital Artist Career Blueprint
    Physical Book: https://amzn.to/2VmUybF
    EBook: https://amzn.to/2Xo4P9g

    PK 189: The Future of Art Education with Mike Mattesi of DrawingForce.com

    PK 189: The Future of Art Education with Mike Mattesi of DrawingForce.com

    This episode was originally recorded in early 2018 and has just been released. In this episode, Mike Mattesi and Mitch explore different ideas for the future of art education, how to focus and how niching-down can lead to becoming world-renowned.

    Highlights:
    2:00 - What's new at DrawingForce.com
    4:00 - Thinking forward to using VR in the classroom and teaching his method without being in the same classroom
    7:30 - A business idea for the evolution of model photography and reference for artists
    10:10 - Where are you seeing students having the most success in the 'new' virtual format of distance learning
    18:18 - The challenge of millennials and motivation
    25:00 - The fear of going niche vs trying to do everything
    27:35 - Using style to really stand out as an artist
    32:00 - The idea of being a world-renowned artist and focusing on just one thing
    35:20 - How to accomplish the most important things in your life when you have a big list of things to accomplish
    38:30 - Laserbeams vs floodlights in drawing, art, and life

    Links mentioned in this Episode:
    Brian Fraud - http://www.worldoffroud.com/
    Richard Mcdonald - https://richardmacdonald.com/

    Check out more of Mike’s Work at:
    http://www.DrawingForce.com

    More Pencil Kings Podcast Episodes:
    http://www.PencilKings.com/show

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    Looking for a fun, easy-going approach to learning art?
    http://www.pencilkings.com

    Want to learn artistic mastery?
    http://www.pencilkings.com/evolve

    PK 188: Deep Dive into the Journey of an Animator

    PK 188: Deep Dive into the Journey of an Animator

    Sand is known to the other Evolvers as having a unique ability for keeping the live homework rooms always full of energy and she did not disappoint in this interview!

    We covered a lot of ground in this episode talking about education, life as a working professional and the passion and drive it takes to make it as a full-time creative.

    For me, the big insight from Sand was exploring those who choose art as a career vs those who create art for a hobby. I was never able to understand why people who were 'better' than I was at art would choose what seemed to me like a career path that would be unfulfilling, but Sand helped me to really understand why this is, and it completely makes sense.

    For some of us the goal is creative expression but that is just our goal, and each person has their own goals an motivations... for example if your goal is safety, security and high pay, then choosing a creative career could seem really scary compared to other options.

    To put it another way... there are a lot of people who enjoy singing and playing instruments who have no intention of ever being in a band or performing. This doesn't mean they can't still enjoy music and even be amazingly skilled at it - it's just that their goals and priorities aren't in alignment with being a professional musician.

    Highlights:

    07:45 - Accidentally walked into a workshop on animation which completely set Sand on a new direction

    08:22 - What parents really think when you tell them you want to pursue a creative path

    09:40 - What the animation college taught Sand, and how she filled in the gaps with her education

    11:50 - Physical depression from not making art

    12:20 - The dark side of college (designed to take your money)

    17:19 - 5 Second shorts and becoming an artist who loves the craft so much they desire to learn everything they can about it

    19:48 - Why it's so important to create your own projects and do the work you most want to do

    22:40 - Why travel and networking is so important for artists, especially those wanting to work in the entertainment industries

    26:23 - What pushed you to start with Evolve?

    41:00 - Exploring the idea that artists absolutely must create (or risk extreme unhappiness)

    45:56 - What is your strategy for getting your artwork done?

    51:00 - Why there aren't any shortcuts in art - at some point you have to lean in and earn the experience

    55:00 - What advice would you give to someone who just started with Evolve today?

    59:00 - Exploring the difference between the creative path and other less creative ways of living *This question was a real eye-opener for me personally to help explain why us creatives do what we do, and why people who have high creative skill don't end up doing anything with it.

    1:06:48 - The best part about making art is that you don't lose out when you make art

    1:07:39 - Best places to find Sand online

    @sandmcunicorn - industry-specific

    @pudgypudymcunicorn - Youtube, twitch and hobbies and philosophy

    @spookymcunicorn - horror and macabre

    Want to learn serious art skills? Check out: http://www.pencilkings.com/evolve

    Looking for a fun, easy-going approach to art? Check out: http://www.pencilkings.com

    PK 187: Finding Bliss While Learning to Paint with Jan from Evolve

    PK 187: Finding Bliss While Learning to Paint with Jan from Evolve

    Jan rediscovered her love of art when she found some old paints at a garage sale. The last time she had done any art was when she was 6 years old and took an art class for a month.

    Those newly acquired paints brought art back into Jan’s life, but even though she was enjoying learning to paint on her own she wanted the mentorship and system to follow to take things to a whole other level to really see how far she could go with her art.

    That’s when she first heard about the Evolve program, but like many people, she believed that the program was too good to be true.

    She thought it was silly to think of herself as a more serious artist, and that’s when her husband encouraged her to go for it.

    Since starting, Jan has been flying through the program and hasn’t looked back.

    In this interview, you’ll learn:
    - How she’s able to always find time for her art
    - Why she was reluctant to show her art to the other students
    - How painting gives Jan a blissful feeling that keeps her motivated and moving forward

    Highlights:

    1:20 - What did your art study look like before the program?

    3:50 - How did you get back into art?

    5:20 - Jan heard about Evolve but thought it was too good to be true

    6:25 - Why Jan almost didn't sign up

    8:05 - What does your family think of your work now?

    10:27 - Explaining the bliss feeling that comes when making art

    12:30 - What Jan is looking forward to painting

    14:40 - When you're not making art, how are you spending your time?

    15:30 - What is your strategy for getting things done?

    23:30 - What do to if you think you have no time

    24:47 - What would you tell someone who just started with Evolve to inspire them?

    29:10 - Why were you reluctant to share your work?

    Are you interested in learning to paint together with Jan and Mitch?
    For details on the Evolve Program:
    https://pencilkings.com/evolve

    For more podcast episodes:
    https://www.pencilkings.com/show

    PK 186: Daniel never dreamed that he would create realistic oil paintings.

    PK 186: Daniel never dreamed that he would create realistic oil paintings.

    Daniel never dreamed that he would create realistic oil paintings.
    In fact, he has never taken any art classes before participating in the http://www.EvolveArtist.com program.

    In this interview, you can see how far he has come in just a few months.

    What's interesting about Daniel's journey is that while he is creative; he is first and foremost a musician and had never considered developing the skills to become a visual artist.

    He will show you how even though art isn't the main passion he is still managing to find a place for art in his life, and receiving the calm and relaxing benefits that come with making art. He also stresses the importance of having a system to follow that allows for confidence to be built naturally.

    Highlights:

    3:40 - What's your motivation for doing art?

    5:22 - How do your skills compare to the other students in the program?

    7:20 - What makes Daniel's choice of subject matter special, and examples of his work

    10:30 - How are you feeling when you sit down to do a painting?

    13:20 - Having a system for art takes away the fear

    14:30 - What's your strategy for time management and getting time to study art?

    20:05 - What would you tell someone who started Evolve today to inspire and help them get started?

    22:20 - Once your skills are at a professional level, what are you looking forward to creating?

    To see the entire curriculum Daniel is following and join the program, visit http://www.EvolveArtist.com

    PK 185: What it really takes to make great art with Michael from Evolve

    PK 185: What it really takes to make great art with Michael from Evolve

    Have you always wanted to create art that gets noticed, but not sure if you have the talent to make it happen?

    If so, you'll love Michael's story as he is currently working through Block 4 of the Evolve Artist program (http://www.evolveartist.com) where students have learned the skills necessary to create professional level illustrative paintings.

    In this interview, he will tell you that talent has nothing to do with it because it's all about putting in the work which makes even the highest levels of art attainable to anyone with the desire to learn.

    When Michael started with Evolve Artist just over a year ago, he wasn't sure if it would work for him, but he knew that this could be his last real shot at being able to learn the skills that would give him the ability to create the work that he really wanted to make.

    Throughout his life, he always had a creative calling and had tried a number of different ways to learn and improve but was never quite happy with where he was with his art.

    He made that fateful decision to join Evolve a year ago and now he couldn't be happier.

    Michael has the same challenges as most other students... there's family commitments, work commitments, and even travel commitments, but he's prioritized his painting and his results are now clearly on display for anyone to see.

    This is the third interview we've had with students in the Evolve program and there are patterns starting to emerge:
    - Every student has had a friend or family member want to hire them to create a piece of art (well before they are finished the program)
    - Every student made the commitment to do the work
    - None of the students claim to have any special talent or ability that's allowed them to develop the mastery they are showing with their work.

    So if you've always wanted to learn to create head-turning artwork, and have the willingness to put in the work, there's nothing really stopping you from taking the next step to create your own artistic legacy.

    Follow Michael's Progress here: https://www.instagram.com/michaelrayart/

    Join Michael in Evolve Artist: http://www.evolveartist.com

    PK 184: From starting to pro level art in 7 months - what?!

    PK 184: From starting to pro level art in 7 months - what?!

    Kristen's college professor told her she couldn't draw and after 10 years of believing that lie, she was inspired by the idea of showing her own work at an art convention.

    The only problem was that she was starting literally from the beginning.

    To get started with her art, she joined several different online courses and programs but kept running into the same problem...

    The courses she was trying to learn from were too far ahead of where she needed to be. She lacked the foundation that would allow her to move forward and access the knowledge in the courses.

    So she kept going backward to uncover the simplest techniques that would allow her to truly start right from the absolute beginning and in doing so realized the real first step she needed was learning how to hold the pencil.

    About the same time as she had this realization to go back to the very beginning she began hearing about the Evolve program which promised to teach everything an aspiring art student would need - even how to hold the pencil.

    But committing to something like this can be scary - unless you have one key insight that has been such a big part of Kristen moving so quickly through the program.

    So what's Kristen's secret?

    She knew that she could put in the work. If learning art came down to talent or having a special gift then it wouldn't work for her - but if all she had to do was follow the plan; she knew Evolve was something she could do.

    After joining she got to work and has been handing in assignment after assignment, moving through the program without any hint of slowing down.

    Just to give you an idea of how quickly she's been moving here's Kristen's timeline:

    January: Got inspired by the desire to create work for an art convention
    March: Joined online courses and realized she needed to go back to discover a true starting point
    May: Joined Evolve and got busy
    December: Now working on professional level techniques and paintings

    That's only 7 months from starting the program to now working on her first professional level pieces... all beginning with learning how to first hold the pencil and then applying herself every day to continue moving forward to her goal.

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