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    Send Your Demos to Table Five

    "Send Your Demos to Table Five" is a music industry podcast hosted by Stevie McMinn (Akira Records & Mt. Wolf) & Sameer Sadhu (Nettwerk Music Group & Secret Signals). During S01, they interview their friends -- from chart topping writers, to Grammy winning producers, to independent music managers, and more individuals who work across fields of the industry.
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    Episodes (14)

    S02E02 - Meg Tarquinio and the powers of A&Ring and curating through the algorithm.

    S02E02 - Meg Tarquinio and the powers of A&Ring and curating through the algorithm.

    Today, we are joined by Meg Tarquinio, as we discuss the world of Spotify curation, A&Ring, and the other A word - algorithm. 

    A year ago, Meg joined Nettwerk Music Group, coming over to the label world after a decade in music-tech. Previously, during an 8 year stint at Spotify, she created 100s of the platform's playlist brands (e.g., #ThrowbackThursday, Peaceful Piano, Songs to Sing in the Car), established its indie folk & acoustic portfolio (e.g., Roots Rising, Fresh Folk, Infinite Acoustic), and drove key developments like algotorial playlists and the pitch tool. Her last few years there saw her further pursuing her passion for expanding the ways people discover and connect to music, by leading Spotify's global curation strategy team and steering the company's editorial strategies, programs, policies, formats, and tooling.

    In a past life, Meg was on the long and winding road to becoming a literature professor, and she still has dreams of pursuing some scattered academic endeavors in the fields of musicology, adaptation studies, and the digital humanities.

    S02E01 - Terry McBride and the evolution of running a modern day record label

    S02E01 - Terry McBride and the evolution of running a modern day record label

    Today, we have a very special guest. Terry McBride, CEO and co-founder of Nettwerk Music Group…. “and my boss” — (sameer!)

    Terry discusses the evolution of running a modern day record label, 38 years after founding Nettwerk in his apartment in 1984.

    Nettwerk Music Group is one of Canada’s largest independent record label, artist management and music publishing company and  has corporate offices worldwide in Vancouver, London, Hamburg, Boston, Los Angeles and New York. Since its inception, Nettwerk has released over 700 different albums and sold over 170 million albums worldwide with renowned artists such as Coldplay, Fun, SYML, Mike Posner, Passenger, Dido, and Sarah McLachlan.

    Terry has spoken at dozens of international conferences about the social landscape, digital branding, intellectual property rights and the future of music consumption. In 2008 he co-authored a broad reaching futuristic paper on the Millennial Generation for the University of Westminster in London, UK. He is a two time recipient of the Pollstar Manager of year for his work with Avril Lavigne, Coldplay and Sarah Mclachlan. He is also a recipient of the Juno Awards “ Special achievement award” for the growth and advancement of the Canadian Music Industry.

    In 2006, Terry co-founded a chain of wellness centers called YYoga and fitness. It’s McBride’s vision for YYoga Studios to evolve into social third spaces, focusing on health, fitness and wellness for the body, mind, spirit and the community. Terry is also a long-time supporter, E-Series speaker, and recipient of the 2015 FWE Mentor Award.

    S01E12 — Keith Goodwin and the reality of being a rockstar

    S01E12 — Keith Goodwin and the reality of being a rockstar

    In today’s episode, we talk through the life & career of Keith Goodwin. 

    Keith Goodwin is an artist, producer, multi-instrumentalist best known for his work with Days Away, Good Old War and recently, Found Wild. Goodwin has spent the past few years producing and working with artists such as Anthony Green, LULLANAS, and more.

    2021 saw Goodwin put out his first solo project. The track, “I Know What Love Is (Because Of You), is charity project in conjunction with Taylor Guitars and featured Grammy winning artist such Zac Brown, Jason Mraz, KT Turnstall and 45 other artists from around the globe. The proceeds of the song is in support the MusiCares COVID-19 FUND, to help those in the music community adversely affected by the pandemic.

    Additionally, Goodwin has used his sound engineering background is producing several podcasts. 

    S01E11 — Narelle Kheng and balancing mental health and social media with being a pop star

    S01E11 —  Narelle Kheng and balancing mental health and social media with being a pop star

    This week, we have an honest conversation with Asian pop star / actress Narelle Kheng (Forbes 30 Under 30). We discuss the balancing act artists have with their careers, and life, and how important it is at growing at your own pace.

    A former national swimmer, Narelle is an actor and a member of Sam Willows,  one of the most successful bands to come out of Singapore and consists of siblings Narelle and Benjamin Kheng and their friends Sandra Riley Tang and Jonathan Chua. The group was formed in 2012 and released their first EP that year followed by their first full-length album Take Heart in October 2015. Last year in July they released their second studio album I Know But Where.

    In 2019, she embarked on her on her solo career under the name “Narelle”. With the final phase of an album out in 2021, and a short film to accompany the project, “Narelle” is a genre bending project that is more personal, and represents the personal growth and discovery Narelle has gone through in the past few years. 

    S01E10 — Derek Robertson and the State of Music Journalism in 2020

    S01E10 — Derek Robertson and the State of Music Journalism in 2020

    S01E10 — Derek Robertson and the State of Music Journalism in 2020

    This week, we have music journalist Derek Robertson to discuss the state of music journalism in 2020. Robertson discusses the lack of criticality, and often objectivity in journalism. 

    Derek Robertson is a freelance music writer, editor, and digital journalist with over ten years’ experience contributing to a variety of publications, both in print and online. Having written for the likes of the Guardian, the Independent, NME, Timeout, and Vice, he had a three-year stint as Editor-In-Chief at Drowned In Sound, where he oversaw editorial direction and digital strategy. He also writes artist biographies, provides content for several internationally renowned festivals, and has been a BBC Sound Of… pundit for several years.

    S01E09 — Vanja Primorac and working at Spotify & innovation in live streaming

    S01E09 — Vanja Primorac and working at Spotify & innovation in live streaming

    This week, we have Vanja Primorac. Vanja Primorac is currently the Vice President of Content at Pollen, a marketplace that curates the best shared experiences for young people and gets them closer to the artists they love. She’s currently building out the strategy and team that will focus on developing artist branded curated travel experiences around the globe. 

    In the episode, we discuss Primorac’s journey in the industry and how Spotify’s changed artists’s careers, the lack of trusted and influential human curators and how artists are finding new ways to connect with their fan base with the the lack of touring.

    Previously, Primorac lead UTA’s Music Innovation initiative, which worked with departments across the agency and companies in emerging digital and tech to identify unique collaborations that would elevate artists, their stories and bring them closer to their fans. Once COVID-19 hit and took the live business to a screeching halt, Primorac and her team stepped up to lead the charge in finding unique live streaming partnerships for their clients. This included everything from charity driven initiatives, to big partnerships with Oculus and BeApp and ultimately guiding the agency through the live streaming pay per view platform landscape; a solution that would allow artists to stay connected to their fans while generating incremental revenue. Earlier in her career, Primorac worked at Spotify across Artist & Label relations and marketing. She worked directly with artist and management teams as a representative of Spotify and helped educate partners on best practices and various partnership opportunities and has developed artists marketing campaigns by bringing the artist’s creative vision to life, most notably Louder Together which brought Nina Nesbitt, Sasha Sloan, Charlotte Lawrence and producer King Henry together to write an original song. 

    Vanja Primorac started her career working at Revolt TV as a producer in the creative department. 

    S01E08 — Jess Kangalee and the dark art of radio plugging

    S01E08 — Jess Kangalee and the dark art of radio plugging

    This week, we have Jess Kangalee who discusses the dark arts of radio plugging, to starting a firm on her own, and a very educational insight in her journey and successes of being a woman and a minority in a field of music notorious for being a "boys club". 

    Jess Kangalee has a decade of experience working in broadcast media promotions for artists, festivals and events. She currently runs her own company Good Energy PR, working with a roster that prioritises female identifying/lgbtq/poc artists. Prior to Good Energy, Kangalee was Head of UK Radio & TV PR at a big independent label where her efforts helped break artists such as Moses Sumney, Phoebe Bridgers and Whitney, as well as working on game changing campaigns including Angel Olsen and Sharon Van Etten. Aside from Secretly Group releases, Kangalee also worked on seminal releases for badbadnotgood and Run The Jewels as well as 7 festivals seasons including Citadel (4), Green Man (3), Lovebox (7) and Wilderness (6).

    Previously to the label, Kangalee worked at an independent plugging company across a diverse roster including  Azekel, Battles, Boards of Canada, Bombay Bicycle Club, Caribou, Daniel Avery, Grizzly Bear, Metronomy, Sleater Kinney, Sinkane, Tame Impala, Unknown Mortal Orchestra, The War On Drugs to name a few. 

    Kangalee is also very active in pushing for change within the independent music sector to increase diversity and equality and has been leading talk sessions across labels, live, management, publicity, A&R, artists and more.

    S01E07 — Parker Ulry and a masterclass in digital marketing

    S01E07 — Parker Ulry and a masterclass in digital marketing

    This week’s episode, we have Parker Ulry, Director of Digital Marketing Interscope Records. Ulry’s career has seen run digital with pop cultures biggest names including chart topping DaBaby, Summer Walker, Blackbear, Lil Mosey, Alexander 23, and cult favourite LANY. In this episode, we discuss how artist marketing in the digital sphere is run in 2020, and how covid has altered creativity and consumerism. 

    Prior to Interscope, he worked at Warner Bros Records, handling digital for a portion of their roster. Ulry has spent the past 6 years of his career helping artists promote themselves, their music, and their brands online.

    Edited by Keith Goodwin. 
    Intro & Outro music by Superheart

    S01E06 — David Stewart and the art of writing hits through perseverance

    S01E06 — David Stewart and the art of writing hits through perseverance

    This week’s episode, we have multi-platinum selling songwriter, the very talented David Stewart. Stewart shares stories of how songwriting is a talent which comes from a lifetime of practice, and how writing in lockdown has tested the relationship of artist and songwriter. 

    Stewart has worked with some of the biggest names in music from America and the UK including Selena Gomez, The Jonas Brothers, Hailee Steinfeld, Ed Sheeran, Ryan Tedder, Skrillex, Tinie Tempah, Troyboi, Example, Wretch32, as well as rising star Claudia Valentina. He also has a production/writing collective called ‘Mad Teeth’ which is signed to RCA Records.

    After many years on the road, Stewart turned his hand to production and songwriting full time engaging in a two-year stint in Atlanta working with Ludacris’ team and honing his skills. 

     Stewart’s recent collaborations include the Jonas Brothers’ “What A Man Gotta Do.” Produced and written by Stewart, it was the #1 most added song at Top 40 and AC radio in January. He also produced and co-wrote Hailee Steinfeld’s newest single “I Love You’s,” released in March 2020.

    Edited by Keith Goodwin. 
    Intro & Outro music by Superheart

    S01E05 — Ryan Chisholm and how one billion is the new one million streams

    S01E05 — Ryan Chisholm and how one billion is the new one million streams

    This week, we talk to Ryan Chisholm. GM of Work of Art Management (Mike Posner, Trevor Daniel, Wes Period, MILCK, Verzache, Quadeca and Tai Verdes.) along with SVP of Arista Records (West Coast).

    With a career that amasses number ones, and over 6 billion streams, Chisholm’s first introduction to the industry actually started at home — his father, Kevin Chisholm was Carlos Santana’s manager. 

    For the past 5 years Chisholm has managed the career of pop / singer-songwriter / poet / podcaster Mike Posner. Posner's song “I Took A Pill in Ibiza” amassed over 2.5 billion worldwide streams, went Top 10 in 85 countries, held the #1 on Top 40 radio for two weeks straight, made history as “One of Spotify’s Top 10 Most Streamed Songs of All Time” and earned Posner a 2017 Grammy nomination for “Song of the Year”. 

    Edited by Keith Goodwin. 
    Intro & Outro music by Superheart

    S01E04 — Shura and being a hilarious human and excellent musician

    S01E04 — Shura and being a hilarious human and excellent musician

    A very special episode with a special guest — the brilliant Shura. In this episode we discuss everything from the viral success of “Touch”, being dropped by a major label and signing to one of the biggest indie labels, to an insight into the political landscape and accountability of being an artist.

    Shura shares stories of the courting process while being the industry’s most sought after artist, and the difference of working within the major label and independent label system. We also talk about her protesting in New York in the past few weeks, how she has stayed creative during covid lockdown, and her love of football — including an incredible David Beckham story.

    Edited by Keith Goodwin.
    Intro & Outro music by Superheart

    S01E03 — Ali Raymond and a master class in listening with your eyes

    S01E03 — Ali Raymond and a master class in listening with your eyes

    This week’s guest is Ali Raymond. Ali runs Beatnik Creative in London, a a management / record label company who look after BBC sound poll 2020 sensation Arlo Parks, as well as the brilliant UK indie band Island.

    In this week’s episode, we discuss the art & economics of artist development, how his firm Beatnik went from being on the brink of dissolving, to managing one of the hottest acts of the year, to inside the BBC Sound of 2020 poll politics, and a Brit awards story that involves small talk with Amy Winehouse’s manager. 

    Edited by Keith Goodwin. 
    Intro & Outro music by Superheart 

    S01E02 — Jeremy Lloyd and artist management during a global pandemic

    S01E02 — Jeremy Lloyd and artist management during a global pandemic

    Our inaugural guest on S01E02 is artist manager Jeremy Lloyd. Based in London, Jeremy currently looks after the careers of UK artists Allman Brown, Ben Hobbs, Carmody and Sophie Morgan. Previously, he booked acts at London venues (including early performances from Mumford and Sons, The Wombats and X Ambassadors) and ran an independent record label, all under the Laissez Faire Club monicker.

    In this week’s episode, we discuss what being an artist manager really means during a global pandemic, has music become more disposable, and the most important question on everyone’s mind, what exactly is Stevie’s Ed Sheeran story all about?

    S01E01

    S01E01

    In the pilot episode of season 1, hosts Stevie McMinn (Akira Records & Mt. Wolf) & Sameer Sadhu (Nettwerk Music Group & Secret Signals) share their stories of how they got into music. In this episode, they discuss what it was like being in a buzz act, being a scout at The X Factor, what A&R is in 2020, having Ed Sheeran’s phone number, going to Universal Studios with Bastille and talking Guernsey with Max Martin.

    Intro / outro music by Superheart.