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    Logos Podcast is a show about building sovereign communities: the people, philosophies, challenges, and solutions. We invite the world's foremost experts and radical thinkers to discuss how to emancipate from repressive systems through new social, political, and economic institutions.
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    Patri Friedman: Creating politically autonomous communities | Logos Podcast with Jarrad Hope

    Patri Friedman: Creating politically autonomous communities | Logos Podcast with Jarrad Hope

    00:00 Introductions[1][2]

    02:40 Values in governance systems

    17:33 Seasteading[3]

    23:35 Zone for Employment and Economic Development (ZEDE)[4]

    27:55 Physical territory requirement 

    34:45 Open source law

    40:14 Charter Cities & Pronomos[5]

    54:31 Reading list[6]

    58:04 Criticism

    01:02:53 Goodbye

    Patri Friedman: https://twitter.com/patrissimo https://patrifriedman.com/

    Jarrad Hope: https://twitter.com/jarradhope_

    https://www.seasteading.org/

    https://www.lawg.org/the-zedes-law-in-honduras-sanctuary-for-exploitation-corruption-and-organized-crime/

    https://www.pronomos.vc/

    https://chartercitiesinstitute.org/reading/

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    Ben Wizner: Speech, Privacy, and Technology | Logos Podcast with Jarrad Hope

    Ben Wizner: Speech, Privacy, and Technology | Logos Podcast with Jarrad Hope

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     RESOURCES: 

    Jarrad Hope X - https://twitter.com/jarradhope_ 

    Ben Wizner X: https://twitter.com/benwizner 

    ACLU’s Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project - https://www.aclu.org/issues/privacy-technology 

    This Machine Kills Secrets: Julian Assange -https://perpus.univpancasila.ac.id/repository/EBUPT200367.pdf 

    TIMESTAMPS: 

    00:00 Introductions 

    02:45 Why human rights law? 

    04:52 ACLU’s Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project 

    09:28 Why do civil liberties matter? 

    11:35 Technology and civil liberties 

    21:24 Communicating the dangers of mass surveillance 

    25:47 US legal response to Edward Snowden revelation 

    40:15 Privacy and Terrorism 

    43:29 Jarrad Hope and Edward Snowden conversation reflections 

    45:42 Negative effects for US journalists because of Julian Assange case 

    50:11 This Machine Kills Secrets: Julian Assange 

    59:37 Making the argument for the right to privacy 

    01:01:19 Blockchain technology for finance or privacy 

    01:07:40 Are Western States turning into China? 

    01:10:29 Saving free society by fairly sharing resources 

    01:15:04 Making technology relatable 

    01:19:21 Central Bank Digital Currency 

    01:30:38 Are you optimistic about the future? 

    01:33:43 Thank you and goodbye 
     

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    Jonny Rhea, Joe Delong & Zak Cole | The Current State of P2P

    Jonny Rhea, Joe Delong & Zak Cole | The Current State of P2P

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    RESOURCES: 

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    Joe Delong X- https://twitter.com/josephdelong 

    Zak Cole X- https://twitter.com/0xzak 

    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00 Introductions

    01:58 State of P2P

    08:26 HIO blockchain infrastructure series

    09:42 Peer to Peer incentives

    27:40 What do you optimize for?

    48:44 Net neutrality

    50:12 Storage

    54:02 Decentralising everything

    58:59 Capitalism and resources

    01:04:34 Final thoughts

    01:06:38 Goodbye

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    Peter Ludlow: Crypto Anarchy & Cyberstates | Logos Podcast with Jarrad Hope

    Peter Ludlow: Crypto Anarchy & Cyberstates | Logos Podcast with Jarrad Hope

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    RESOURCES: 

    Jarrad Hope X - https://twitter.com/jarradhope_ 

    Peter Ludlow: https://sites.google.com/site/peterjludlow/

    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00 - Introductions

    02:40: - Crypto Anarchy, Cyberstates, and Pirate Utopias

    10:58 - Peter Ludlow early interest in crypto anarchy

    16:49 - Satoshi's whitepaper

    20:06 - DAO: decentralized autonomous organization  

    27:49 - Code is law

    35:57 - Ramifications of possible Ethereum crisis

    44:16 - Crypto Anarchy, Cyberstates, and Pirate Utopias influence on Jarrad

    47:03 - Peter Ludlow inspiration and collaboration

    53:17 - Conflict resolution in virtual communities

    58:12 - What makes you optimistic about the future of cyber states?

    01:03:51 - Goodbye

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    Paul Sztorc of LayerTwo Labs | Drivechains, Scaling Bitcoin without Compromise

    Paul Sztorc of LayerTwo Labs |  Drivechains, Scaling Bitcoin without Compromise

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    RESOURCES: 

    LayerTwo Labs: https://layertwolabs.com/ 

    Drivechain: https://www.drivechain.info/ 

    TIMESTAMPS 

    00:00 Intro 

    02:40 Setup to Interview…BTC is in a Time Capsule 

    04:58 Bitcoin is Attempting to be the L1 Hub for Business Capture 

    05:40 Where do the Incentives Pool? 

    08:54 Interview with Paul Sztorc Begins

     11:08 What are Drivechains? 

    14:45 What is the Difference Between BitVM and Drivechains? 

    22:55 What’s the Driving Force Behind Drivechains? 

    35:56 How do we Permissionlessly Innovate with Drivechains? 

    55:30 Why not try Drivechains on Ethereum? 

    1:02:17 The Difference Between a Hard Fork and Soft Fork 

    1:06:15 What Types of Interesting Applications Need to Exist on Drivechains? 

    1:20:15 Post Interview Roundtable 1:13:35 Privacy Pools Plug

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    Robin Linus of ZeroSync & BITVM.ORG | Pioneering Proof Systems, Adoption in Bitcoin

    Robin Linus of ZeroSync & BITVM.ORG | Pioneering Proof Systems, Adoption in Bitcoin

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    RESOURCES: 

    ZeroSync: https://zerosync.org/ 

    BitVM white paper: https://bitvm.org/bitvm.pdf 

    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 Intros – Robin Linus of ZeroSync 

    5:45 Introducing the Paper: BitVM Compute Anything on Bitcoin – first steps to implementation 

    8:48 How do you get zero knowledge proof validations on Bitcoin and security assumptions 

    14:00 How do you differentiate from drive chains? 

    16:45 Difference in resource costs - comparing BIP-300 and snark based rollouts on Bitcoin 

    18:55 Matching instructions with Bitcoin for computation 

    23:15 Designing for Bitcoin stateless script 

    24:30 The mission of ZeroSync – Creating a proof system to sync Bitcoin's chain state instantly 

    29:27 Pushing zero knowledge ideals on Bitcoin – positive and negative responses 

    34:00 A hard fork of Bitcoins consensus rules? 

    35:42 Is Ethereum a shitcoin to you? Money needs to be designed on mathematics not trust 

    37:15 Data availability problems and solutions 

    40:50 Tradeoffs of any chain as its scales. Bitcoin is and always will be proof of work 

    44:35 ZK Coins 

    46:40 Why do L2s in Ethereum ecosystem need data availability? 

    50:40 Long term data persistence and solutions – sampling, bridge nodes, and more 

    52:45 ZeroSync developer toolkit and the stack chosen 

    58:05 What is your shitcoin of choice? Gisele Bündchen birthday cake 

    1:03:05 Is what you do actually difficult?

     1:04:00 10 words or less Can you describe Bitcoin

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    Stella Assange: Human Rights & Alternative Modes of Organising | Logos Podcast with Jarrad Hope

    Stella Assange: Human Rights & Alternative Modes of Organising | Logos Podcast with Jarrad Hope

    Stella talks about her experience working on Julian Assange's legal team, her introduction to new technologies including Bitcoin, and the current surveillance state that has emerged since the rise of the open internet. 

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    RESOURCES: 

    Stella Assange X (Formerly Twitter)

    Free Assange Emergency Toolkit  

    Jarrad Hope X (Formerly Twitter)  

    TIMESTAMPS 

    0:00 Introductions - Stella’s background, Apartheid, politics, the arts, Julian Assange legal team 

    6:35 Motivations of joining and studying law and politics – Idealism, justice, society 

    10:35 Growing up in the coming of age of the internet – Wikileaks, Iraq War Logs, new journalism 

    12:30 Jarrad’s inspirations – International Subversives Magazine, Cypherpunk Mailing lists, more 

    14:00 The US prosecution against Julian Assange – a political test, and failure of the justice system

     18:20 Information asymmetry, Edward Snowden, and the movement towards open information 

    20:15 Wikileaks grew out of a culture in which the government should be open 

    25:50 Jarrad’s journey into civil libertarianism and building Logos 

    29:00 Carrying on the torch of Ethereum – building censorship resistant cyber states

    31:20 Stella’s introduction to crypto by Julian – 2011 meeting with Google about Bitcoin 

    34:35 Bitcoin is the real Occupy Wall Street – How cryptography can make a real world impact 

    37:00 Preserving reality as the tools to manipulate it become more powerful 

    39:55 Social media censorship and Wikileaks adoption of BTC 

    42:00 Arab Spring, Wikileaks utility in Tunisia, Egypt and around the world

     45:15 Crypto and the need for alternative system, communities, and modes of organising 

    50:30 A dangerous, post-state system and surveillance capitalism

     54:50 Underlying causes for a shift in behavior and the “War on Terror” 

    59:00 What does Julian Assange case mean for journalism, activism, liberties, and human rights 

    1:12:40 An update on Julian Assange’s precarious legal situation 

    1:20:10 Free Speech, activism, and the course the world has taken since Julian's imprisonment.

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    Edward Snowden: Censorship Resistance, Cyber States, Privacy | Logos Podcast with Jarrad Hope

    Edward Snowden: Censorship Resistance, Cyber States, Privacy | Logos Podcast with Jarrad Hope

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    RESOURCES: 

    Edward Snowden X 

    Edward Snowden Substack

    Jarrad Hope X 

    TIMESTAMPS: 

    00:00: Intro 

    01:00: A look back at the last 10 years of surveillance 

    07:50: Post September 11th Surveillance scheme 

    09:45: A new era of presumed mass surveillance and the loss of a free internet 

    14:10: Beyond omnipresent oppression (add subscription card) 

    15:30: Why should people care about privacy? Privacy is power 

    19:12: How did your politics evolve over the years? A meta game of politicians

    25:27: Logos and why the politics of this project matter. Creating political neutrality and just governance. 

    30:30: Recognizing cyberspace as the fifth domain of conflict. 

    33:40: Reform or Revolution? 

    36:39: Why the decentralisation movement is so important. Order via protocol instead of law 

    41:48: Combining resistance, privacy, and technology 

    47:35: Logos – Infrastructure for Network States 

    53:05: Decentralizing access to the internet. Tornado Cash, VPN, TOR, and network blocks 

    57:30: Catalan Independence Referendum. Decentralized technology, mesh network, IPFS 

    1:02:20: How economies work and defining private property 

    1:06:40: Neutrality, Crypto, Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDC)

    1:12:20: Encrypted content, private, secure messaging, and metadata 

    1:16:20: Government forced backdoors into encryption schemes 

    1:18:50: Ensuring the freedom of future generations

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    Ameen Soleimani of Privacy Pools | Unpacking Privacy Pools – Motivations, Mechanics, and Tradeoffs

    Ameen Soleimani of Privacy Pools | Unpacking Privacy Pools – Motivations, Mechanics, and Tradeoffs

    Corey, D, and Jesse chat with Ameen about the motivations behind Privacy Pools, historical references including Tornado Cash and Z Cash, as well as the mechanics and tradeoffs associated with the approach. 

    Topics Covered in this episode: 

    1. Motivations and history – Ethereum, Coinbase, Tornado Cash, zk-SNARKs, Zcash.
    2. How Privacy Pools work – Setup, deposits, association sets, analysis
    3. Complexities and Challenges in added infrastructure and coordination
    4. Responsibilities and compliance
    5. Open source development and how to get involved

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    RESOURCES: 

    Ameen X

    Privacy Pools Paper

    Privacy Pools Website

    Privacy Pools Github

    Fundraiser for Roman Storm and Alex Pertsev

    TIMESTAMPS 

    00:00 Intro 

    5:00 Introducing Amen 

    6:30 Why dive into privacy now? 

    8:25 Corey’s interpretation and background to the Privacy Pools paper 

    11:35 Ameen's motivations for Privacy Pools - history of Ethereum, Coinbase, zk snarks, Z Cash 

    11:50 Tornado Cash compliance tool and enhancing the power of compliance 

    17:30 Is privacy all or nothing? 

    20:30 Mechanics of the privacy pool setup. Deposits, association sets, analysis 

    22:15 Week long dispute of proofs and tradeoffs 

    24:00 Versions of Privacy Pools, shielded pools, z-cash comparison 

    27:00 Maintaining decentralization while working in different jurisdictions 

    28:46 The consequences and challenges of building on open systems vs base layer privacy 

    32:15 Additional coordination complexity and anonymity sets 

    34:35 “Goblins” or small scale thefts and edge case hacks 

    39:15 Who will manage the burden of infrastructure? Wallets and important role of relayers. 

    46:40 Are Association Set Providers a new set of core users? 

    51:00 Narratives are powerful for positive use cases to prevail 

    51:58 Who is responsible for judging the association sets of the association set providers? 

    56:00 Privacy Pools is just better than the status quo 

    56:37 Open source developers working in the space with OFAC. Tornado Cash 

    1:02:40 Describe Privacy Pools in ten words or less 

    1:03:20 Is what you do difficult? 

    1:05:20 Roundtable with Corey, D, and Jesse

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    Edgard of Status | Status Super App Reborn – Decentralised Infrastructure and Autonomous Communities

    Edgard of Status | Status Super App Reborn – Decentralised Infrastructure and Autonomous Communities

    Topics Covered in this episode: 

    1. History of Status features, challenges, and the road to building a Super App. 

    2. Challenges in existing infrastructure and Status' decision to build core infra 

    3. Technical details in delivering data ownership, decentralized messaging, and privacy 

    4. Decentralized Social and token permissioned communities 

    5. A look ahead at some exciting future plans 

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    RESOURCES: 

    Status Website - https://status.app/ 

    Status X - https://twitter.com/ethstatus 

    Status Github - https://github.com/status-im

     Status Forum - https://discuss.status.app/ 

    TIMESTAMPS 

    00:00 Introduction 

    06:55 Edgard introduction 

    07:40 Progress from the previous versions: Redesign, features, infrastructure 

    10:35 History of Status and the ultimate vision of a free internet and truly decentralized Super App 

    15:05 Why Status has taken time, commitment to principles, and delivering a premium experience 

    20:39 Challenges of decentralized infrastructure and delivering on the value proposition 

    25:30 Status communities, Decentralizing communication, Wall Street Bets, Ownership 

    28:38 Technical details of data ownership, Waku nodes, and distribution 

    33:30 Waku messaging – relay nodes, light push nodes, and driving scale 

    37:35 A gossip network – driving decentralization and privacy 

    43:49 Spam management – network level (Waku) and user level prevention (Status) 

    47:52 Decentralized Social & token building blocks – gating, permissions, minting, airdrops 

    55:25 Community Dapp Plugin system and Dapp Chat plug in system 

    58:40 Making a seamless multichain world 

    1:08:35 Closing remarks from Edgard – 2 years in the making 

    1:11:34 Roundtable with Corey, D, and Jesse

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    Jordi Baylina of Polygon zkEVM | Zero Knowledge, Privacy, Scalability and Building Useful Technology

    Jordi Baylina of Polygon zkEVM | Zero Knowledge, Privacy, Scalability and Building Useful Technology

    This is a special episode with someone who has been involved in the Ethereum ecosystem for many years. Jordi, a white hat hacker, has been building common good infrastructure and protecting people on the internet during that time. 

    Topics Covered in this episode: 

    1. Dapp Node, Giveth, Catalan Independence Movement, and useful technology 

    2. Technical implementations and tradeoffs in zero knowledge technology

    3. Staying current in the rapidly evolving blockchain industry 

    4. What excites Jordi in the short term and long term 

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    RESOURCES: Jordi X - https://twitter.com/jbaylina 

    TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Introduction 

    03:10: Dapp Node, Giveth, Catalan Independence Movement, and useful technology 

    06:14: Infrastructure decentralization connection to the internet 

    06:55: ISP’s and Spanish government censor voting in the Catalan Independence Movement 

    08:38: What does it mean for technology to work appropriately? 

    11:10: My mission 

    12:00: Why is zk technology so important right now 

    14:50: Zero knowledge is not only privacy. Also for validity and scalability 

    17:35: Tradeoffs between privacy and compression in zero knowledge proofs 

    19:20 Recursion, aggregation, and trees of proofs 

    21:00: What are the downfalls of current implementation of zkEVMs building on Ethereum 

    22:45: Is privacy a requirement to working? 

    23:40: Efficient aggregation of proofs in the context data storage systems 

    28:10: Speeding up msn operations and speed requirements 

    31:00 Keeping up with the pace of research 

    34:00 Building proficient teams 

    38:25: Speeding up the learning curve 

    40:00: Scaling Ethereum, liquid democracy, anonymous voting, data privacy and other goals 

    44:14: Scalability, usability and challenges facing utility 

    45:10: Prioritizing features, work, and releases 

    49:20: Risk assessment in the ecosystem 51:40: Define zk in 10 words or less

     52:40: Is what you do hard? 

    54:40: Follow up roundtable with Corey, D, and Jesse

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    Lefteris Karapetsas of Rotki | Private Portfolio Management

    Lefteris Karapetsas of Rotki | Private Portfolio Management

    We discuss the challenges of building a privacy-centric portfolio management tool and the tradeoffs required compared to highly centralized alternatives. We dive deep into local-first software and take a look at how Lefteris has made this a pillar of Rotki. 

    Topics Covered in this episode: 

    1. Lefteris' history in blockchain development and the path to Rotki
    2. Technical challenges in building private, secure portfolio management tools
    3. Local-First Software
    4. Exciting developments for Rotki

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    RESOURCES: 

    Rotki Website - https://rotki.com/ 

    Lefteris X - https://twitter.com/LefterisJP 

    Rotki X - https://twitter.com/rotkiapp

     Rotki Discord - https://discord.rotki.com/ 

    Rotki Docs - https://rotki.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html 

    Rotki Github - https://github.com/rotki Download 

    Rotki App - https://rotki.com/download 

    TIMESTAMPS: 

    00:00 Intros 

    02:40 Motivations to build Rotki and Tax Code 

    05:00 - Managing the various DeFi opportunities and DeFi primitives 

    06:50 - Prioritizing new features and keeping up with the ecosystem 

    11:00 - Premium features of Rotki - Ethereum Staking, graphs, back ups and more 

    12:35 - Data structure and ecosystem growth 

    16:45 - Infrastructure costs and active management 

    19:45 - Securing Rotki while adding new features 

    21:44 - Supported ecosystems - more than EVM 

    28:50 - Nodes, Pruning, Transaction Hashes 

    32:00 - Local-first software and challenges in business use cases 

    35:15 - The roadmap and what’s next for Rotki 

    36:30 - 10 words or less - describe Rotki 

    37:00 - Is what you do hard?

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    Flash Hash: 09/01/2023

    Flash Hash: 09/01/2023

    This episode includes:

    Tornado Cash Founders Charged With Money Laundering And Sanctions Violations: https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/tornado-cash-founders-charged-money-laundering-and-sanctions-violations

    Social Platform Friend.tech Gains 100K Users in Days Even in Depths of a Bear Market: https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2023/08/21/friendtech-gains-100k-users-quickly-in-depths-of-a-bear-market/

    RISC Zero's open source Zeth proves Ethereum blocks in minutes, instead of hours: https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/risc-zeros-open-source-zeth-proves-ethereum-blocks-in-minutes-instead-of-hours-301907186.html

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    TIMESTAMPS
    00:00 Introductions
    03:43 Tornado Cash Founders Charged With Money Laundering And Sanctions Violations
    11:28 Social Platform Friend.tech Gains 100K Users in Days Even in Depths of a Bear Market
    19:40 RISC Zero's open source Zeth proves Ethereum blocks in minutes, instead of hours
    26:14 Goodbyes

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    enSeptember 01, 2023

    Shane Mac of XMTP | The Power of Web3 Messaging

    Shane Mac of XMTP | The Power of Web3 Messaging

    Shane walked us through his long history in the world of messaging and working with Web2 giants including Facebook bots, Ebay, and email clients, in his journey to make connecting with each other more human.

    Shane is an experienced start-up founder with a refreshing vision and outlook on how to bring Web3 to the next billion users.

    Topics Covered in this episode:
    Shane’s background in the messaging space and his journey into Web3
    Technical goals of XMTP and how to drive network effects without the cold start problem
    Recent developments of XMTP including launching with Coinbase Wallet
    How XMTP Web3 messaging works

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    RESOURCES:
    Shane X - https://twitter.com/ShaneMac
    XMTP Website - https://xmtp.org/
    XMTP X - https://twitter.com/xmtp_
    XMTP Discord - https://discord.com/invite/xmtp

    Coinbase Announcement - https://xmtp.org/blog/coinbasewallet
    Converse App X - https://twitter.com/converseapp_

    TIMESTAMPS:
    00:00 - Intros
    01:45 - Facebook, Email, and connecting with stranger driving acquisition by Blackberry
    03:10 - Creating form factor messaging experiences in crypto
    06:30 - Identities, Messaging, and Privacy – A demo of Coinbase Wallet
    09:00 - Selectively disclosing and the analogy to Apple’s “hide me email”
    13:30 - UX, intuitive design and more user experience into Web3
    16:30 - P2P messaging infrastructure of XMTP and owning your messages
    18:50 - The lifecycle of a message in XMTP
    23:20 - Breaking the shackles of Web2 walled gardens
    25:00 - Web3 brings in new models outside of “Value is Data”
    27:28 - A world where no one knows XMTP exists and any wallet address can communicate
    29:30 - Marketplace and network dynamics – the network has a lesser take rate than the app
    31:05 - What drives revenue and growth?
    35:00 - Wallets are just managements of various types of identity and being chain agnostic
    36:31 - Universal inbox, spam prevention, filtering - Converse App example
    42:40 - Onboarding into web3 was painful but it’s getting easier
    44:55 - Coinbase Wallet partnership and messaging as the heart of the universe
    46:44 - Focus and roadmap ahead
    47:50 - Is what you do hard? Drawing from past experiences

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