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Part 2 of our 60th Anniversary Doctor Who coverage, including hot takes on The Church on Ruby Road - featuring previous guest Olivia returning to the show, and also for the first time the brilliant Patrick!

0.00 pt 1 - General chat about the recent Specials/Tennant/RTD

0.50 pt 2 - Thoughts about The Church on Ruby Road, and the future of the show

Enjoy! And see you in 2024.

You can find the show on X at @EGoat_pod (or post at me on @D_Faggiani) and email us with any feedback on escapegoatpod@gmail.com. All our episodes so far are on Spotify,  our YouTube channel, and Apple Podcasts. Do spread the word! We also have a Patreon - any amount of money will get you early access to episodes, and help support the show!

Olivia appeared on the show quite a while ago, on episode 4 of the show, where we discussed South Park and episode 13, where we chatted about Pokemon and Monster in my Pocket. Check them out. Olivia can be reached on X on @olivia_broome or on Instagram via @oliviaxbroome.

Patrick is the co-host of the Poditive Spin: The Friendly Fan Club podcast. Follow them on Instagram and Twitter via @poditivespinffc. I had the great experience of being on one of their episodes before, discussing fandom culture in general, and it was a good time! Listen to that one here.

Thanks to Colleen and Andrew for appearing on pt 1 (which you can listen to here) Both Colleen and Andrew featured on a previous episode of this podcast, in which we discussed the Flux series of Who - here it is. And here's an episode where Colleen and I chatted about the Matt Smith-led Season 6 of the show.

All original intro, outro and other incidental music recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert.

NOTES

You can watch the mini-episode of Who from back in late 2005 that Patrick references in the episode here. Is the Fourteenth Doctor at least in part referring to his own moles?? You be the judge.

We're back for a pair of specials, ahead of the end of the year! In this first part, Colleen and Andrew discuss the three November/December 2023 Doctor Who Specials, featuring David Tennant as the Fourteenth Doctor - particularly The Giggle, which had just aired about 24 hours before we had the chat. It's first draft of history time, folks! Join us as we discuss strange quasi-retirements, fresh starts, disquiet, and, of course, comfort and joy.

0.00 pt 1 - General chat about the Specials/Tennant/RTD

0.37 pt 2 - Thoughts about The Giggle, and where the show goes next

We'll be back with a part 2 just after Christmas! x

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Colleen Cheetham-Gerrard, despite the name, is not a Daily Telegraph columnist. Instead, she's a stand-up comedian and public speaker who can mostly be found on the London circuit. Colleen was also a co-host for Strong Female Leads, a now-completed podcast focusing on nerd culture from a feminist perspective. You can find Colleen via @thecolleencg on X, and she's also on Instagram and Bluesky.

Andrew Blair is a writer, poet and software developer based in Edinburgh, and a frequent contributor to Den of Geek and other sites. You can visit his website via this link. He can be found on X (and Bluesky) via @freelance_liar.

Both Colleen and Andrew featured on a previous episode of this podcast, in which we discussed the Flux series of Who - here it is. And here's an episode where Colleen and I chatted about the Matt Smith-led Season 6 of the show.

All original intro, outro and other incidental music recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert.

NOTES

Here's Elizabeth Sandifer's review of The Giggle, and the Pex Lives boys chatting about The Star Beast is here. I haven't even read Darren Mooney's review of The Giggle yet, but I know it'll be great - here it is. Oh, and here's Andrew's latest (post-Giggle) on Den of Geek.

We cap off this current series with a great finale episode, in which I am joined by the brilliant Christine Kelley for the first time. After a general chat about a few things, we turn to talking about our mutual backgrounds with the films of David Lynch, and then in the second part we focus in on Christine's favourite Lynch film - the elegiac, melancholy and tenderly unconventional road movie The Straight Story (1999). Such a lovely chat. Hope you enjoy it.

This episode is respectfully dedicated to the memory of Dr David Baume (1943-2023).

0.00 pt 1 - Intro/David Lynch chat in general

0.48 pt 2 - The Straight Story

That's it for Series 4! Thank you for listening everyone! And many many thanks to all the contributors. You're the best bunch in the world.

The EscapeGoat Podcast will return...

You can find the show on Twitter at @EGoat_pod (or tweet at me on @D_Faggiani) and email us with any feedback on escapegoatpod@gmail.com. All our episodes so far are on Spotify,  our YouTube channel, and Apple Podcasts. Do spread the word! We also have a Patreon - any amount of money will get you early access to episodes, and help support the show!

Christine Kelley (@ballardiangorse on various platforms) writes about speculative fiction and radical politics from a queer revolutionary perspective. Currently her main project is Nowhere and Back Again, a psychogeography of J. R. R. Tolkien's Middle-earth. Her first project was the now semi-retired blog Dreams of Orgonon, a song-by-song study of Kate Bush. Support Christine on Patreon.

All original intro, outro and other incidental music recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert.

NOTES

This Cinephilia Beyond retrospective article on The Straight Story is well worth checking out (as is the B-roll footage it includes). Also, have a look at this wonderful piece by friend-of-the-show Kit Power on Wild at Heart, one of his long-running My Life in Horror series (now available in two-volume book form).

Oh, we mention American Beauty as (bizarrely) outshining The Straight Story at the Oscars? Here's my brother Matt and his podcast partner Mike having a chat about that film: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6tb8d05ek7XE8wRcLrmg1X?si=859df45c5d0849c7

Finally, here is Christine's post which will make you want to watch the classic surreal Czech film Daisies. WATCH DAISIES.

This week, I am joined by the fantastic Jack Graham, for his second appearance on the show. In the first hour, me and Jack chat about many things (okay, quite a lot of Star Trek, I'll be honest) and then we turn to the main topic - the classic Agatha Christie novel And Then There Were None (1939), a text that has fascinated Jack for decades. Also... Jack may read a poem insert that I wrote (on the bus) the day following the main recording. I promise, it will make sense in context. A great one, enjoy!

WARNING - contains spoilers for And Then There Were None (like, in-depth) and also for Christie's other monumental thriller The Murder of Roger Ackroyd (1926). Be aware!

0.00 Intro/Additionata

1.08 And Then There Were None

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Jack Graham is a writer and podcaster who is probably best known as the co-host of the anti-fascist podcast I Don't Speak German. His work can also be found on Eruditorum Press, via his discussion show The Shabcast (a huuuuuuge influence on The EscapeGoat Podcast, I don't mind telling you) and via his Patreon. He can be reached on Twitter on @_Jack_Graham_

All original intro, outro and other incidental music recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert.

NOTES

While I was editing this episode, this apparently happened. I suspect the involvement of a giant wasp, personally: https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/live-greenway-house-agatha-christie-8601707

In this latest installment, I'm joined by film critic and pop culture commentator Darren Mooney, to have a ridiculously nerdy and only slightly rambling conversation about Star Trek - both in general terms (initially), and then our respective experiences of the various tie-in book series. Following that, we zero-in on one specific Star Trek novel - that being Star Trek: Invasion! First Strike (Diane Carey, 1996). We had a great time. If this interests anyone else, it will be a bonus. Many thanks to Darren.

0.00 Intro chat/David and Darren's background with Star Trek in general

1.12 A selective overview of the Star Trek novel tie-ins

1.41 Star Trek: Invasion! First Strike

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Darren Mooney is a pop culture critic at large for The Escapist. He writes the twice-weekly In the Frame column, writes and voices the In the Frame videos, provides film reviews and writes the weekly Out of Focus column. Plus, occasionally he has opinions about other things as well. Darren lives and works in Dublin. He also writes for The Irish Independent and provides weekly film coverage for radio station Q102. He co-hosts the weekly 250 Podcast and he has also written three published books of criticism on The X-Files, Christopher Nolan and Doctor Who. He somehow finds time to watch movies and television on top of that. Ironically, his superpowers are at their strongest when his glasses are on. His extensive work on Star Trek (and many other topics) at The M0vie Blog is, frankly, stupendous (our words). Check it out here.

All original intro, outro and other incidental music recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert.

NOTES

Another trove of work regarding Star Trek is this sizeable archive of essays at Eruditorum Press. Explore it by starting here.

I also greatly enjoy the long-running Pensky Podcast, who are at time of this episode covering Season 3 of Voyager, and Witney Seibold and William Bibbiani's All Our Yesterdays show, currently discussing Season 4 of TNG, and available on their Critically Acclaimed network's Patreon.

We come zooming back, to continue the fourth series! I am thrilled to welcome Jonny to the show for a second appearance, after a substantial gap, to chat about The Flash!

After a first half in which we discuss DC Comics' Scarlet Speedster generally, and a little bit about his previous incarnations and adaptations, we use the second half to review the (at-time-of-recording) new movie The Flash (2023, Andy Muschietti). We get spoilery from 1h 16 mins in, if anyone cares about that. Enjoy!

0.00 Intro/The Flash as a character and a symbol

1.02 The Flash (2023) - review and discussion

You can find the show on Twitter at @EGoat_pod (or tweet at me on @D_Faggiani) and email us with any feedback on escapegoatpod@gmail.com. All our episodes so far are on Spotify,  our YouTube channel, and Apple Podcasts. Do spread the word! We also have a Patreon - any amount of money will get you early access to episodes, and help support the show!

Jonny Kiehlmann is a politics, maths, book and climbing nerd based in Aberdeen and London. He is on Twitter on @kiehlmanniac. He was previously on the show in Episode 22, chatting with me about Alan Moore's Whatever Happened To The Man of Tomorrow and the endings of superhero stories in general. Give it a listen!

Last year, we did a quite similar-in-format episode, where I reviewed The Batman movie with the aid of Matt and Mike. Listen to that here!

All original intro, outro and other incidental music recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert.

NOTES

Yes, this is basically a scene in the movie (I'm barely exaggerating).

On this episode of And Ninthly... David and John take a deep luxurious dip into the sixth and final episode of Series 8, 'The Last Weekend', aired on 25 May 2023.

We then (from about 1h 13 mins in) give our respective episode rankings for Series 8! Will we see eye-to-eye? Find out....

(spoilers for this series in general, and also spoiler references to 'Sardines' and 'To Have and to Hold'. Once again, be warned!)

Thanks for joining us for this series of Inside No 9! It's been terrifically interesting and fun. See you again soon for more mischief.

If you want to hear previous bits of David and John chatting about IN9, it's been the subject of a few EscapeGoat Podcast episodes - here are the links! 

Series 1-5: discussion and highlights

Series 6 (pt 1)

Series 6 (pt 2)

And you can find our episode-by-episode coverage of Series 7 via And Ninthly... on this thread too.

You can Tweet us at @EGoat_pod  and email us with any feedback on escapegoatpod@gmail.com. We also have a Patreon - any amount of money will get you early access to episodes, and help support the show!

The outro music was recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert. 

On this episode of And Ninthly... David and John are joined by their mutual friend Dan Hunt to dissect the fifth (and rather surprising) chapter of Series 8, '3 by 3', aired on 18 May 2023. We also spend a bit of time talking about the show in general in the first ten minutes, including SPOILERS for 'Tom and Gerri'. Again, be warned!

We will be back next week to talk the final episode of this series, and to lay down our series rankings.

Dan is a human man. No other information is currently available.

If you want to hear previous bits of David and John chatting about IN9, it's been the subject of a few EscapeGoat Podcast episodes - here are the links! 

Series 1-5: discussion and highlights

Series 6 (pt 1)

Series 6 (pt 2)

And you can find our episode-by-episode coverage of Series 7 via And Ninthly... on this thread too.

You can Tweet us at @EGoat_pod  and email us with any feedback on escapegoatpod@gmail.com. We also have a Patreon - any amount of money will get you early access to episodes, and help support the show!

The intro music was recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert. 

On this installment of And Ninthly... David and John are joined by the brilliant George Daniel Lea to dissect the fourth episode of Series 8, 'Love Is A Stranger', aired on 11 May 2023. We also spend a bit of time talking about the show in general in the first half hour, including SPOILERS for a few IN9 episodes (most notably 'To Have and to Hold', 'The Stakeout' and the Hallowe'en live special 'Dead Line'). Be warned!

George is a prolific YouTube creator, mostly on videogames, pop culture and literature, whose channel can be found here. His horror fiction and reviews can be discovered on his website Strange Playgrounds. He can be reached on Twitter on @EnigmaticElegy. He has previously featured on The EscapeGoat Podcast talking about Gormenghast, The Flight of Dragons, Terry Pratchett's Johnny Maxwell Trilogy and Count Duckula, and David has guested on his channel a few times, most recently also alongside the equally brilliant Kit Power to discuss the fairly recent horror-comedy film The Menu. 

If you want to hear previous bits of David and John chatting about IN9, it's been the subject of a few EscapeGoat Podcast episodes - here are the links! 

Series 1-5: discussion and highlights

Series 6 (pt 1)

Series 6 (pt 2)

And you can find our episode-by-episode coverage of Series 7 via And Ninthly... on this thread too.

You can Tweet us at @EGoat_pod  and email us with any feedback on escapegoatpod@gmail.com. We also have a Patreon - any amount of money will get you early access to episodes, and help support the show!

The intro music was recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert. 

On this installment of And Ninthly... David and John natter about the third episode of Series 8, 'Paraskevidekatriaphobia', aired on 4 May 2023.

If you want to hear previous bits of David and John chatting about IN9, it's been the subject of a few EscapeGoat Podcast episodes - here are the links! 

Series 1-5: discussion and highlights

Series 6 (pt 1)

Series 6 (pt 2)

And you can find our episode-by-episode coverage of Series 7 via And Ninthly... on this thread too.

You can Tweet us at @EGoat_pod  and email us with any feedback on escapegoatpod@gmail.com. We also have a Patreon - any amount of money will get you early access to episodes, and help support the show!

The intro music was recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert. 

On this edition of And Ninthly... David and John talk about the second episode of Series 8, 'Mother's Ruin', aired on 27 April 2023.

If you want to hear previous bits of David and John chatting about IN9, it's been the subject of a few EscapeGoat Podcast episodes - here are the links! 

Series 1-5: discussion and highlights

Series 6 (pt 1)

Series 6 (pt 2)

And you can find our episode-by-episode coverage of Series 7 via And Ninthly... on this thread too.

You can Tweet us at @EGoat_pod  and email us with any feedback on escapegoatpod@gmail.com. We also have a Patreon - any amount of money will get you early access to episodes, and help support the show!

The intro music was recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert. 

Welcome back to And Ninthly... where David, John and occasional guests chat about new episodes of the dark comedy drama BBC anthology show Inside No 9, written by and starring Reece Shearsmith and Steve Pemberton.

In this installment we discuss the first episode of Series 8, 'The Bones of St Nicholas', aired on 23 December 2022.

If you want to hear previous chunks of David and John chatting about IN9, it's been the subject of a few EscapeGoat Podcast episodes - here are the links! The Series 1-5 episode below features us talking about 'The Devil of Christmas'

Series 1-5: discussion and highlights

Series 6 (pt 1)

Series 6 (pt 2)

And you can find our episode-by-episode coverage of Series 7 via And Ninthly... on this thread too.

You can Tweet us at @EGoat_pod  and email us with any feedback on escapegoatpod@gmail.com. We also have a Patreon - any amount of money will get you early access to episodes, and help support the show!

The intro music was recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert. 

We're back, talking more Jaws (Steven Spielberg, 1975)! This time, John and I are joined by the fantastic Laura Carseldine.

After some chat about the film and our fandom, we have a look at the original novel by Peter Benchley, and some of the differences between the source material and the movie adaptation. SPOILERS for the book, by the way! One of them in particular blows my mind. Then we have a discussion of the movie sequels, and their sublime and escalating ridiculousness. 

You can listen to part 1 (featuring Simon) here.

0.00 Intro chat/Jaws (the film)

1.03 Jaws (the novel)

1.41 the later Jaws film franchise

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John has been watching and talking about television comedy since people repeatedly started singing the theme tune to 1980s sitcom Dear John at him. He has also been on quite a few episodes of the show now - including a fab conversation about two very different 90s sitcom endings. And, of course, And Ninthly (which will be back very soon...)

Laura is an all-round extraordinary person of no fixed abode. She can be contacted by putting some chum in the water.

All original intro, outro and other incidental music recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert.

NOTES

The audiobook of Jaws by Peter Benchley can currently be listened to on YouTube here, read by Erik Steele. Recommended if you're unfamiliar with it, I really enjoyed it!

By the way, at roughly the same time we recorded this episode (and its pt 1), friends of the show Kit Power and Jack Graham recorded (with their friend Ellliot Chapman) this excellent chat about Jaws! By complete coincidence! Please do give it a listen, it's great.

In a first for the show, we're doing a two-parter! On obscure movie curio Jaws (Steven Spielberg, 1975). He Is Risen.

For this initial part, I'm joined by returning shipmate John and guest skipper the brilliant Simon Barraclough. Together, we start getting our teeth into The Big Fish Film. *WARNING* may contain poetry.

Stay tuned for pt 2....

0.00 A Trip to Amity

1.01 On The Boat

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John has been watching and talking about television comedy since people repeatedly started singing the theme tune to 1980s sitcom Dear John at him. He has also been on quite a few episodes of the show now - including a fab conversation about two very different 90s sitcom endings. And, of course, And Ninthly (which will be back soon...)

Simon is a poet, writer and editor who used to have a fear of mechanical sharks. Usually found in the cinema or between the pages of a book. There’s more at simonbarraclough.com

All original intro, outro and other incidental music recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert.

NOTES

You can watch that clip of The Doomsday Machine here. And Alex Under deserves credit, always.

By the way, at roughly the same time we recorded this episode (and its pt 2), friends of the show Kit Power and Jack Graham recorded (with their friend Ellliot Chapman) this excellent chat about Jaws! By complete coincidence! Please do give it a listen, it's great.

This week, the brilliant James S. Murphy returns to the show, to chat about The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy series (mostly the books, but we touch on some other forms too) and more specifically, the fifth book, Mostly Harmless (1992, Douglas Adams) which we really get into in the second half. A complete and total pleasure, from start to finish - hope it is for you all too! And Don't Panic.

0.00 Intro/preamble

0.08 pt 1

1.14 pt 2

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James podcasts regularly at Pex Lives, about Doctor Who, Bob Dylan and whatever else he pleases. He also co-hosts the marvellous Pop Could Never Save Us (check it out!) He can be got on Twitter via @jameslatrmurphy.

All original intro, outro and other incidental music recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert.

NOTES

Ladies and Gentlemen.. Mr Peter Davison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HLy27bK-wU

On this episode, Nannina drops in to chat to me about two movies which kind of orbit the concept of 'Screwball'.... Holiday (1938, George Cukor) starring Katharine Hepburn and Cary Grant, and The Hudsucker Proxy (1994, Joel and Ethan Coen) starring Tim Robbins and Jennifer Jason Leigh. I'm watching Holiday for the first time, Nannina is watching Hudsucker for the first time.... what did we think??? Find out by listening!

0.00 Intro

0.07 Holiday

1.00 The Hudsucker Proxy

You can find the show on Twitter at @EGoat_pod (or tweet at me on @D_Faggiani) and email us with any feedback on escapegoatpod@gmail.com. All our episodes are on Spotify,  our YouTube channel, and Apple Podcasts. Do share and enjoy. We also have a Patreon - any amount of money will get you early access to episodes, and help support the show.

Nannina is a screenwriter, who procrastinates at writing by going down deep research wormholes into alternate dimensions. She supports her writing habit by making coffee, and can be found on Twitter via @NanninaGilder talking about early women filmmakers.

All original intro, outro and other incidental music recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert.

NOTES

Here's a pretty good overview piece on the reasons why George Cukor might have been 'let go' from Gone With The Wind.

This Salon piece from 2010 is perhaps a good starting point for the 'Magical N' trope that we refer to in discussing Hudsucker (and it namechecks that movie). 

Welcome to Series 4! We're back with a fresh run in 2023. And we're kicking off by welcoming back the wonderful Kit Power, to talk to me about his new essay collection, My Life in Horror Volume II! Join us as we talk about whether the Nightmare on Elm St movies ever lived up to their potential, whether Bruce Springsteen is a horror writer, why Superman III is utterly terrifying, and much much more!

0.00 Intro

0.08 pt 1 - General chat about My Life in Horror Volume II

pt 2 - A closer look at some of the essays

0.47 I Had A Job, I Had A Girl (Born in the USA)

1.03 You've Been on my Nerves for a Long Time (Superman III)

1.24 Obnoxious, Self-Righteous Sadists (Smoking)

1.43 If Only There Is Something We Could Have Done (XCOM)

2.01 El Eye Vee, Ee Are Pee, Double Oh El (Cracker)

2.25 We Will Bury You (Confessions of a Reluctant Barman)

You can buy Kit's new book here via Amazon, either in physical form or for Kindle (and Volume I here), or you can of course get your local bookshop or library (at least in the UK) to order it. Please do - it's a real experience!

You can find the show on Twitter at @EGoat_pod (or tweet at me on @D_Faggiani) and email us with any feedback on escapegoatpod@gmail.com. All our episodes so far are on Spotify,  our YouTube channel, and Apple Podcasts! We are also now on Patreon. Do share and enjoy.

Kit Power lives in Milton Keynes and writes horror and dark crime fiction, with occasional forays into dystopian science fiction. His fiction work includes a novel, ‘GodBomb!’, and a novella collection ‘Breaking Point’, two short story collections (‘A Warning About Your Future Enslavement That You Will Dismiss As A Collection Of Short Fiction And Essays By Kit Power’ and ‘Voices’) and novellas ‘The Finite’ and ‘A Song For The End’. He also writes non-fiction (https://www.gingernutsofhorror.com/my-life-in-horror.html with Volume 1 and 2 also available in book format) and has a limited hardback available on the subject of Ken Russell’s movie Tommy. In his increasingly inaccurately labelled spare time, he podcasts - on his own show, Watching Robocop With Kit Power, What The Hell Is Wrong With Us? with George Lea, and a Patreon exclusive show on the Sherlock Holmes canon with Jack Graham. For weekly early access to his fiction, non-fiction, and podcasting work, visit www.patreon.com/kitpower. He has also been on four previous episodes of The EscapeGoat Podcast, discussing each part of the original UK House of Cards Trilogy in turn and then the Stephen King short story collection Skeleton Crew. Check them out!

All original intro, outro and other incidental music recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert.

NOTES

Kit actually recorded an episode of Jack Graham's Shabcast back in early 2020, to promote and discuss Volume I of MLiH - you can listen to that episode here (and should!)

The music at the beginning of this EscapeGoat episode is a clip from a peculiar rights-challenged Hip Hop oddity - if you're not aware of it, the video can be viewed here.

We're back! With an autumn special, before a new series in 2023.

I welcome once again to the show both Matt and George! After an introductory chat, mostly about our recent Halloween/horror experiences (and the recent Hellraiser movie)... we move onto our main topic... the Cosgrove Hall UK animated classic Count Duckula (ITV, 1988-1993). Including a bit of animation history context from former guest Dru... and our most special guest ever... the inimitable Doreen Edwards (vocalist of the Count Duckula theme tune) We hope it's fun!

Stick around after the credits for me and George having a chat about the cult comedy-horror hit Don't Hug Me I'm Scared (YouTube/Channel 4, 2011-16, 2022-).

0.00 Intro/Halloween 2022 preamble

0.16 Hellraiser (2022)

0.30 Count Duckula pt 1

0.56 The History of Cosgrove Hall (with Dru)

1.18 Count Duckula pt 2

1.32 Interview with Doreen Edwards (vocalist of Count Duckula theme)

1.46 Count Duckula pt 3

1.58 Don't Hug Me I'm Scared

You can find the show on Twitter at @EGoat_pod (or tweet at me on @D_Faggiani) and email us with any feedback on escapegoatpod@gmail.com. All our episodes so far are on Spotify,  our YouTube channel, and Apple Podcasts! Do share and enjoy. We also have a Patreon - any amount of money will get you early access to episodes, and help support the show!

Matt and Mike can be found on YouTube with their regular co-hosted movie analysis show 'Matt and Mike Pull Focus' - Matt has previously appeared on several episodes of this show - most recently, our episode on The Batman.

George is a prolific YouTube creator, mostly on videogames, pop culture and literature, whose channel can be found here. His horror fiction and reviews can be discovered on his website Strange Playgrounds. He can be reached on Twitter on @EnigmaticElegy. He has previously featured on this podcast talking about Gormenghast, The Flight of Dragons, and Terry Pratchett's Johnny Maxwell Trilogy and I had the honour of featuring on his channel talking about the Amiga500 era of gaming!

Dru (our animation expert) previously appeared on our episodes about Who Framed Roger Rabbit and the Road Runner cartoons. Highly recommended.

All original intro, outro and other incidental music recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert.

NOTES

So... here's George talking about Hellraiser (2022).

Here's George and Kit Power (also a previous guest on this show!) and Alasdair Stuart talking about Cosgrove Hall too, with focus on The Wind In The Willows.

I've got no idea about the legality of this... but this YouTube channel is your easiest pathway to watching a lot of Count Duckula. Enjoy!

Doreen Edwards is a living legend, and you can hear the full version of that interview on Matt and Mike Pull Focus' channel. Furthermore, her work with Distant Cousins is outstanding. Start maybe with You Used To (which has been in my head for most of this year...)

and, of course... the original Don't Hug Me I'm Scared material can be found on their YouTube channel. And the new stuff on Channel 4.

Here it is - the last episode of our third series! In which returning guest Nannina and new guest Lauren Humphries-Brooks join me to chat about three amazing Werner Herzog movies, Aguirre, the Wrath of God (1972), Nosferatu the Vampyre (1979) and Fitzcarraldo (1982). And also Bob's Burgers, obviously.

Thank you so much to all our guests this year, and everyone who has listened. The EscapeGoat Podcast will return.... 

0.00 Intro/preamble

0.19 our backgrounds with Herzog's movies 

0.32 Aguirre, the Wrath of God

1.02 Nosferatu the Vampyre

1.31 Fitzcarraldo

1.46 Wrap-up

You can find the show on Twitter at @EGoat_pod (or tweet at me on @D_Faggiani) and email us with any feedback on escapegoatpod@gmail.com. All our episodes are on Spotify,  our YouTube channel, and Apple Podcasts. Do share and enjoy. We also have a Patreon - any amount of money will get you early access to episodes, and help support the show.

Nannina is a screenwriter, who procrastinates at writing by going down deep research wormholes into alternate dimensions. She supports her writing habit by making coffee, and can be found on Twitter via @NanninaGilder talking about early women filmmakers.

Lauren is a writer, editor, and media journalist. She regularly contributes to film and pop culture websites, and has written extensively on Classical Hollywood, British horror films, and the sci-fi, fantasy, and horror genres. She is the co-host of the Citizen Dame podcast. She can be found on Twitter via @lhbizness.

All original intro, outro and other incidental music recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert.

NOTES

A couple of podcast recommendations... firstly, the Cult Movies Podcast, which works through the films written about by Danny Peary in Cult Movies, did an Aguirre episode last year. Secondly, They Must Be Destroyed on Sight! did an episode a few years ago (featuring Jack Graham, who has been on this show) chatting about both Nosferatu versions. Both recommended.

The Herzog commentary about Fitzcarraldo can be found on YouTube - and you can probably find a few others on there too, alongside the interview which I use a clip of in the middle of this episode.

On this episode of And Ninthly... David and John take on the sixth episode of Series 7, 'Wise Owl', aired on 1 June 2022. Spoilers as always (and, on that note, trigger warnings for discusions of abuse).

After that (and a short break) we give our respective rankings of Series 7 of IN9, and some final thoughts! Skip ahead to 1h 7mins for that bit.

If you want to hear previous chats of David and John about IN9, it's been the subject of a few The EscapeGoat Podcast episodes - here are the links!

Series 1-5: discussion and highlights

Series 6 (pt 1)

Series 6 (pt 2)

Pemberton and Shearsmith record their own podcast for BBC Sounds, Inside Inside No 9, which usually features interesting material about the shows' productions and creative decisions. Well worth a listen!

You can Tweet us at @EGoat_pod  and email us with any feedback on escapegoatpod@gmail.com. We also have a Patreon - any amount of money will get you early access to episodes, and help support the show!

The intro music was recorded and made available by kind permission of Richard Gilbert.