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    Tips for reuse advocates

    Tips for reuse advocates

    The coalition Reusable LA has been actively advocating for a number of years on several policies pertaining to waste reduction and plastic pollution, including the switch to reuse for onsite dining. Upstream's Macy Zander interviews Reusable LA's co-leads, Alison Waliszewski of 5 Gyres and Emily Parker of Heal the Bay, to hear their key tips for advocates working on this topic.

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    Back to basics: defining “reuse”

    Back to basics: defining “reuse”

    Even as we see increased momentum behind EPR, DRS and other policies involving reuse, the definitions of “reuse” are scattered and often ill-conceived. Now is the time to properly define reusable packaging—and especially differentiate between returnable and refillable packaging—in the policy context. 

    Tune into this re-cast of Indisposable Live® (Upstream’s livestream series) to learn from Zero Waste Europe’s Nathan Dufour about the recommendations outlined in ZWE’s Packaging Refill vs. Packaging Prevention report, as well as from Oceana’s Matt Littlejohn about global examples of reuse at scale. Upstream’s Policy Director and discussion moderator Sydney Harris explains the different types of reuse, offers some do’s and don’ts within the policy landscape, and shares Upstream’s own recommended definition of reuse—in hopes of moving us all forward in passing truly effective reuse policy. 

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    The Latest Science on Plastic Alternatives

    The Latest Science on Plastic Alternatives

    Dr Lisa Erdle of the 5 Gyres Institute sits down with host Brooking Gatewood to talk about 5 Gyre’s recent Better Alternatives 3.0 report, covering their latest research into how well “compostable” and “biodegradable” plastics break down in various environments, potential pitfalls, promising contenders, and the role of smart material science and composting infrastructure as we transition toward a reuse economy.

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    Urban planning for reuse

    Urban planning for reuse

    Learn about some of the most innovative reuse design work happening today with Ellie Moss and Dr. Dagny Tucker, the co-founders of Perpetual. Just two years in, Perpetual is laying foundations for long-term systems change to implement reusable foodware infrastructure in Ann Arbor, Michigan; Hilo, Hawaii; Galveston, Texas; and Savannah, Georgia. They share key early insights about sustainable city-scale reuse planning, funding, and more.

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    Envisioning a Just Transition toward Reuse, #2

    Envisioning a Just Transition toward Reuse, #2

    Listen in for our second discussion in this series on a Just Transition and its implications for the reuse economy—featuring highlights from a recent Alternative Economy report put out by the Center for Biological Diversity plus the INC-3 meetings in Nairobi. Guests Marcel Howard and Jessica Roff from the Global Alliance for Incinerator Alternatives and Kelley Dennings with the Center for Biological Diversity provide deep insight into the importance of language; the models for regenerative economies that exist right now; what they are excited about for the near future—and more. 

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    Envisioning a Just Transition toward Reuse

    Envisioning a Just Transition toward Reuse

    A Just Transition to reuse focuses on putting people and planet first — so simple in theory, and not at all easy in practice. But we can all help amplify the stories that spotlight green jobs and best practices for a transition that include those who have been most marginalized by our throw-away economy. Listen in for a rich discussion with Brett Nadrich from Break Free From Plastic, Marcel Howard from the Global Alliance for Incinerator Alternatives, and Adoma Addo with the Center for Biological Diversity (now with Milken Institute)—originally recorded as part of a Reuse Solutions Network meeting in August, 2023. And stay tuned for next week’s follow-up episode on this nuanced topic.

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    “Living & learning” with Plastic Free Restaurants

    “Living & learning” with Plastic Free Restaurants

    Did you know? Just $28 worth of stainless steel forks can wipe out 5040 of their single-use counterparts in a school cafeteria. That’s how, one dollar at a time over the last 3 years, Plastic Free Restaurants has eliminated 9 million pieces of plastic from dining institutions around the country. Executive Director John Charles Meyer inspires us with this progress while being candid about the challenges of running a non-profit that subsidizes schools and restaurants to switch to reuse.

    When we first chatted with John Charles, things were just getting going again after Covid lockdowns, and momentum around reuse and reuse policy has really taken off since then. Guest host, Upstream’s Macy Zander, welcomes him back to see what lessons he’s learned, what trends he’s seeing, and how we can all work together to move reuse forward. 

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    A city-wide case study for reuse

    A city-wide case study for reuse

    Host Brooking Gatewood sits down with some of the leaders of Reuse Seattle, which won The Reusies 2023 Community Action of the Year “Building Reuse” award. Zero Waste thought leaders McKenna Morrigan of Seattle Public Utilities and Moji Igun of Blue Daisi consulting walk us through the systemic approach the city has taken to build reuse into everyday life in Seattle—from a public BYO campaign and start-up funding for businesses switching to reuse, to model policies and zero waste beer gardens at major music events, and more. Tune in to learn about this inspiring case study for all cities looking to make throw-away go away. 

    Also check out episode 93 for Matt Prindiville’s conversation last year with two other Reuse Seattle visionaries in this effective public-private collaboration, Pat Kaufman at Seattle Public Utilities and Stephanie Thomas of Cascadia Consulting.

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    Championing reuse in healthcare

    Championing reuse in healthcare

    The healthcare worker’s mandate of “first, do no harm” should make reducing single-use waste in medical facilities a no-brainer. But as Dan Vukelich, President of the Association of Medical Device Reprocessors, illuminates—the sector with health at its heart is also a top polluter. Dan has made an impactful 20+ year career of providing hospital managers and policy makers with the tools to reduce costs, waste, and greenhouse emissions through the safe reuse of "single-use" medical devices. And it will come as no surprise to anyone working to foster reuse in any sector that his data shows medical device reuse is hands-down better for people, the planet, and the bottom line. 

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    20 Years of Upstream

    20 Years of Upstream

    Upstream, née the Product Policy Institute, was founded on October 27th, 2003. Twenty years later, as the reuse movement continues to grow, Upstream’s COO & Chief Friendmaker Julie Lamy sits down with our longest standing board member, David Stitzhal—a.k.a Stitz—to reminisce and look ahead. From Upstream’s roots focused on packaging policy, to our pivots during Covid, to the increasing, global focus on reuse—Stitz shares his insights on working “upstream” both with the organization and in the broader movement. 

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    “3 Rs” of Fashion: Repair, Renew, Resell

    “3 Rs” of Fashion: Repair, Renew, Resell

    Host Brooking Gatewood sits down with leaders from The Reusies 2023 Most Innovative Fashion & Apparel Company, The Renewal Workshop by Bleckmann. Nicole Bassett, co-Founder of The Renewal Workshop (TRW) and now Circularity Lead at Bleckmann—which acquired TRW in 2022—and Chief Business Development Officer Jurrie-Jan Tap discuss the history and exciting future of this successful clothing renew-and-resell program. Listen in to learn about how Bleckmann is helping surmount challenges and scale reuse for the apparel industry.

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    The real solution to plastic pollution

    The real solution to plastic pollution

    Upstream Policy Director and this episode’s guest host, Sydney Harris, sits down with Judy Hilton, a reuse and sustainability consultant and researcher, and co-author of the recent groundbreaking report Making Reuse a Reality: A systems approach to tackling single-use plastic pollution. The report came about as a collaborative effort between Break Free From Plastic and the University of Portsmouth’s Global Plastics Policy Centre (which Judy helped develop). It outlines the stages which will enable the transition away from single-use plastic so reuse systems can scale and  was presented at this spring’s Global Plastics Treaty negotiations in Paris, INC-2. The report makes the case that the Treaty presents a key opportunity to set out the foundations of reuse systems. Learn more as Sydney and Judy dive deep on Judy’s research and what it implies for reuse policy, standards, and more.

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    Re:Dish built it, here they come

    Re:Dish built it, here they come

    Host Brooking Gatewood talks shop with Caroline Vanderlip, Founder and CEO of Re:Dish, one of the hottest new businesses for reuse and game-changing innovation this year. With award-winning design for warewashing machines and software, Re:Dish works with companies, municipalities, schools, venues, and more to help scale reuse, one city at a time. Tune in to learn more about their business model, early hurdles, and dreams for growth.

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    How US bottle bills are accelerating reuse

    How US bottle bills are accelerating reuse

    Fifty years of data on deposit return system (DRS) laws (or “bottle bills”) in the U.S. demonstrate that these programs effectively boost collection and recycling rates, create opportunities and jobs in local economies, prevent roadside litter and plastic pollution, and catalyze reuse. 

    What is the importance of reuse in DRS, and how can DRS policies incorporate the latest thinking on reuse solutions, funding, and incentives? 

    Learn more about this and recent policy wins across the country in our latest installation of Indisposable Live: How US Bottle Bills are Accelerating Reuse. 

    Special guest panelists include Susan Collins, President of the Container Recycling Institute; Sarah Nichols, Sustainable Maine Director at the Natural Resources Council of Maine; and Peter Spendelow, Natural Resource Specialist at Oregon Dept of Environmental Quality. They  will showcase the distinct ways that California, Oregon, and Maine have begun to incorporate reuse/refill into their bottle bills. 

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    A higher education in reuse

    A higher education in reuse

    In this installment of our Back to School Series, we head to college dining halls with Alex Freid, Founder & Director of Atlas Zero Waste Strategy at Post-Landfill Action Network. Alex and Brooking talk with two student leaders from Atlas’ fellowship program—Emily Johnson from the University of Wisconsin Madison, and Kailei Wedge at the University of New Hampshire— about their hands-on learning experiences and what they are doing to surmount some of the biggest challenges of switching to reuse, on campus and beyond.

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    The ABCs of Reuse in K-12 Schools

    The ABCs of Reuse in K-12 Schools

    As part of our back to school series, this episode focuses on how K-12 schools are re-learning reuse, featuring Sasha Palmer and Rebeca Salguero of Brookline Massachusetts Public Schools, and Ben Schleifer of the Center for Environmental Health Food Program. They sit down with host Brooking Gatewood to dig into the Why, the How, and the lessons learned in making throw-away go away from school lunches.

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    Student Solutioneers

    Student Solutioneers

    To kick off a new “back to school” series, we begin with the student perspective – those who will be, and in many ways already are, leading the reuse movement. Host Macy Zander sits down with Bay Area high school students Amanda Yu (Stanford Online High School), Kaavya Baliga (Menlo School), and Eileen Liu (Menlo-Atherton High School), who are each deeply involved in reuse and sustainability efforts at their schools and in their communities. 

    If the stories of their successes and challenges sound familiar, it’s because they’re doing work that is just as impactful and sophisticated as anyone else in the space – building coalitions, working with elected officials to pass legislation, and educating others on why it’s so important that we take action now. Hear what they’ve learned – and what they have to teach us.

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    Upstream CEOs pass the baton

    Upstream CEOs pass the baton

    Upstream’s previous CEO Matt Prindiville makes a special return as podcast host in order to “pass the baton” to our new CEO – and Matt’s longtime friend – Crystal Dreisbach. Crystal is a Solutioneer whose life goal is to disrupt the status quo of our throw-away economy. With over 13 years of executive leadership experience in developing solutions that prevent waste, her goal is to help shift our economy to one that is just, sustainable, and builds resilient communities. Listen to this in-depth conversation to learn more about Crystal’s journey with reuse, her science-minded approach to reuse solutions, and her vision for the movement as Upstream starts a new chapter in its 20th year—and a little about what Matt is up to, as well!

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    Zero waste that keeps on giving

    Zero waste that keeps on giving

    Host Brooking Gatewood sits down with G.L., founder of Generation Conscious, which won The Reusies 2023 Most Innovative Reuse Company in Consumer Packaged Goods. Since 2021, Generation Conscious has been laying the ground-work for a student-centered, hygiene-equity focused business that is saving carbon and avoiding single-use waste through campus-based laundry soap refill stations. Learn more about the incredible innovations coming out of this first-generation, Black-led company that employs local labor, trains students in organizing and fundraising, reinvests surplus profits into BIPOC and queer-led fellowships, and ensures economic success is shared by workers.

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    Scaling reuse in food service

    Scaling reuse in food service

    In this insightful episode, host Brooking Gatewood sits down with Lara Seng, Senior Sustainable Living Manager with Sodexo North America. They go behind the scenes into corporate organizing and strategic pilots to discuss how this Fortune 500 company is taking on the challenges of shifting to reuse at a massive scale. Sodexo, with Lara’s guidance, has been one of the longest running partners and Beta-testers of Chart-Reuse, Upstream’s first-in-industry foodware reuse analytics platform. Learn how Sodexo is working toward greater sustainability, and how Chart-Reuse helps highlight the huge environmental and economic opportunity of reuse for institutional change.

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