The Make Meaning Podcast

Sometimes inspiration comes from sources very close to home. While spending more time with his family during the Covid-19 pandemic, Jeffrey was inspired to pass on his experience and values to younger generations by writing a children’s book starring his own grandchildren, I Don’t Want to Turn 3.  

In the latest episode of the Make Meaning Podcast, host Lynne Golodner interviews Gramps Jeffrey about his business background, his transition from entrepreneur to author of children’s books, and why he believes influencing younger generations is our true purpose. 

In this episode, Lynne and Jeffrey discuss: 

• His first book, The Secrets of Retailing,: Or: How to Beat Wal-Mart!
• Writing for the Huffington Post 
• Discovering a love of writing through journaling
• Becoming inspired to write during a backpacking trip in his youth
• His writing process 
• His first children’s book: I Don’t Want to Turn 3 
• The importance of grandparents being present for their grandchildren
• Lessons his grandfather taught him 

Links and Resources: 

• Dollar Days
• Arianna Huffington
• Borders
• Barnes and Noble
• Episode 116 – Jake Neher 
• Baby Boomers 
• WWII - Pacific Fighter Pilot History 

Find Gramps Jeffrey:

• Website 
• Blog 
• Facebook
• Twitter 
• Instagram 
• LinkedIn

Coming up next on the Make Meaning Podcast: Lynne interviews Dr. Indigo Willing about her books, skateboarding, and her organizations, Consent is Rad, Adopted Vietnamese International (AVI), and We Skate Queensland.

As a young woman, Dorit Sasson moved to Israel and served in the Israel Defense Forces as a lone soldier. After 18 years, Dorit returned to the United States, and those decisions, along with the details of her life in both places, inspired two memoirs about straddling cultures, languages, and definitions of home.

In the latest episode of the Make Meaning Podcast, Dorit speaks with host Lynne Golodner about her books, Accidental Solider and Sand and Steel, which were driven by her determination for self-exploration, observation and a desire to connect. As someone who identifies as Israeli by culture and language, yet never stepped foot in a synagogue while she lived in the Jewish State, Dorit talks with Lynne about the many identities of Israel - a nation, a religion, and a people.

In this episode, Lynne and Dorit discuss:

• Her journey to Israel and return to the United States
• Her time serving in the IDF as a lone soldier
• The close-knit structure of Israeli communities
• The differences between statehood, identity and culture
• Israel as the most misunderstood country in the world
• The beauty of Hebrew
• Anti-semitism and Anti-Zionism

Links and Resources:

• Kibbutz
• Nahal Brigade
• Israeli Economy Today
• History of Israel
• Israel Population by Religion
• Israeli Identities
  • Ashkenazi Judaism
  • Mizrahi Judaism
  • Sephardi Judaism
  • Orthodox Judaism
  • Conservative Judaism
  • Reform Judaism
  • Islam
  • Christianity
  • Druze
  • Bedouin

Find Dorit Sasson:

Website
LinkedIn
Facebook
Instagram

It took 10 years for Karen Baum Gordon to write and publish her memoir, The Last Letter: A father’s struggle, a daughter’s quest, and the long shadow of the Holocaust, under the guidance of a friend who was an editor at McGraw-Hill. The book explores generations of her family through letters, while grappling with the ancestral trauma and psychological legacy of terror, genocide and persecution.

In the latest episode of the Make Meaning Podcast, Karen speaks with host Lynne Golodner about the complexities of identity, what inspired her to write a memoir even though she never considered herself a writer, how she understands the legacy of family, and embracing intergenerational love, loss and life.

In this episode, Lynne and Karen discuss:

• The constant act of becoming
• The legacy of her grandparents, who perished in the Holocaust
• The notion of “surviving the surviving”
• How keeping a journal helps with the writing of a memoir
• Intergenerational Trauma
• Antisemitism
• Being Jewish and American, in what order?
• Confronting family sadness & how children are impacted, or influenced, by their parents’ pain
• Combining the quotidian details of her grandparents’ lives, excerpts of their letters and her own ponderings

Links and Resources:

• Harvard College
• Columbia Business School
• Media Transformation Challenge Program
• Poynter Institute
• Baltimore Orioles
• The Chronicle of the Lodz Ghetto
• Lodz Ghetto
• Finding Your Voice at Midlife
• Rabbi Rick Jacobs
• Union for Reform Judaism
• Buchenwald
• Brooklyn Heights Synagogue
• Congregation Beth Ahm
• Your People LLC
• The Museum of Jewish Heritage
• Strategic Horizons, Inc.
• McKinsey & Co.

Find Karen Baum Gordon

Website
Facebook
LinkedIn
Instagram

The colonizing of America separated Indigenous people from their nourishing “first foods,” plant and animal species that native communities relied upon for subsistence, ceremony and medicine. More than a decade ago, the Keweenaw Bay Indian Community (KBIC), Michigan Technological University (MTU), and the Western UP Planning and Development Region came together to create a space that celebrated and preserved the knowledge and cultural identity of tribal people living in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula. From this collaboration came the Debweyendan Indigenous Garden (DIGs), a place to grow foods and medicines and drive the community toward food sovereignty.

In the latest episode of the Make Meaning Podcast, host Lynne Golodner interviews two important DIGs contributors:  Valoree Gagnon, Assistant Professor in the College of Forest Resources and Environmental Science at Michigan Tech and Director for University-Indigenous Community Partnerships at the Great Lakes Research Center; and Karena Schmidt, an ecologist with the Keweenaw Bay Indian Community Natural Resources Department.

In this episode, Lynne, Val, and Karena discuss: 

• The creation & growth of DIGs
• How to define native foods 
• The importance of food sovereignty 
• The native communities of Michigan’s Upper Peninsula 
• How to be an ally to Native Americans
• Loving the land you come from
• Finding the foods native to your community
• Your role in achieving food sovereignty

Links and Resources: 

History of First Foods 
Diabetes & the Native American Diet 
Remote Indigenous Gardens Network 
Debweyendan Indigenous Garden
Keweenaw Bay Indian Community 
KBIC Natural Resources Department 
Michigan Technological University (MTU)
Western UP Planning and Development Region
Great Lakes Research Center 
University of Arizona 
The Seed Keeper
Elizabeth Hoover, Indigenous Food Sovereignty in the United States 
Robin Wall Kimmerer 
Potawatomi  
Anishinaabe
Ojibwe
Odawa
Pow Wow
Michigan Tribes 
Keweenaw Peninsula 
Dr. Martin Reinhardt 
Sean Sherman - the Sioux Chief

Stephanie Steinberg always knew she wanted to be a writer. From a young age, she chased her creative nature, which led her to become a published author, a successful journalist, and an inspiring entrepreneur. 

In the latest episode of the Make Meaning Podcast, Stephanie speaks with host Lynne Golodner about their passion for their alma mater (University of Michigan), Stephanie’s two books, her experience as editor-in-chief of the Michigan Daily at the University of Michigan (where Lynne was a staff writer, many years before Stephanie!), the founding of the Detroit Writing Room and why she believes your best work comes from following your passions. 

In this episode, Lynne and Stephanie discuss: 

• University of Michigan Football 
• Her time at the Michigan Daily 
• What she loves most about writing
• The development of the Detroit Writing Room 
• The importance of mentors
• How she pivoted her business during the COVID-19 pandemic
• The perks and detriments of virtual meetings 

Links and Resources: 

• Detroit Writing Room
• Bill Vlasic
• Anna Clark 
• Writer Wednesday 
• Laura Berman 
• Fisher Foundation
• Coaching Detroit Forward Camps 
• Sacred Overstreet-Amos
• Kidsworld
• Barrie Muzbeck

Find Stephanie Steinberg:  

Website 
Linkedin 
Facebook
Instagram
Twitter

Find the Detroit Writing Room:

Website
Facebook 
Twitter
Instagram

Jacqueline Suskin has been a poet all her life. It’s something she was born with, she says, and this passion for poetry has led her to build a career where people pay her to write poems about their experiences, their longings, their celebrations, and their desires.

In the latest episode of the Make Meaning Podcast, Jacqueline speaks with host Lynne Golodner about Poem Store, the entrepreneurial venture she created in 2009 by taking a typewriter to public spaces and writing spontaneous poems for payment; her seven books (plus the new one she’s working on); why she believes meaning is a choice and how being able to assign meaning to ordinary objects and experiences is what sets humans apart from every other creature.

In this episode, Lynne and Jacqueline discuss: 

• Her latest book, Every Day Is a Poem
• How she works with people in one-on-one sessions
• What it feels like to write poems spontaneously & for commission
• Why she never keeps a copy of a commissioned poem
• How poetry is the conduit we need to ponder the depths in this crazy time
• How all people experience the same celebrating, grieving, longing and loving, and how everyone wants to connect to these experiences through language

Links and Resources;

• Jacqueline Suskin
• Poem Store
• Lynne Golodner
• Lynne’s Finding Your Voice at Midlife Writers Workshop
• The Hollywood Farmers Market
• Commune
• Typing poems in Oakland, California

Find Jacqueline Suskin:

Website
Facebook
Instagram
Twitter

Noor A’wad and Rabbi Hanan Schlesinger may have come to the question of how Palestinians and Israelis can co-exist on land that they both claim as sacred from different perspectives, but through their work with Roots, the Palestinian Israeli Grassroots Initiative for Understanding, Nonviolence and Transformation, they are figuring out a way to share the land while respecting both communities’ claims on it.

In this first episode of 2022, the Make Meaning Podcast looks at one of the world’s greatest global concerns and begins to make sense of it by speaking to two inspiring leaders in the quest for reconciliation. Noor A’wad is a Palestinian whose family moved to Palestine after the Oslo Accords were signed in the hope that it would be a new opportunity for their family. Growing up in that shattered dream, Noor became a voice for co-existence and understanding.

Rabbi Hanan Schlesinger made aliyah to Israel from the United States decades ago as a religious Jewish settler in the West Bank. He sought to meet his Palestinian neighbors but found it was nearly impossible to do so, since Israeli military law forbids the two populations from residing or gathering in each other’s communities. He is a founder of Roots as a way to make sense out of a truly perplexing situation.

In the latest episode of the Make Meaning Podcast, Noor and Hanan speak with host Lynne Golodner about the work that Roots does to bring together Palestinians and Israelis in the West Bank toward building relationships and understanding. Their goal is apolitical – generating dialogue, hosting meetings and summer camps, offering photography workshops and generally building relationships that pave the way for lasting understanding and co-existence.

In this episode, Lynne, Noor and Hanan discuss: 

• The importance of using the right terminology (it’s not a “conflict” – given the differences in power)
• The “hubris of exclusivity”
• How media on both sides (and around the world) are part of the problem
• That identity is the core of the conflict
• That today’s situation dates back to 1948
• Why a two-state solution is ideal, but not the two-state solution that most people think of
• The importance of accepting each other’s legitimacy
• That self-definition and self-determination are essential for lasting peace

Links and Resources:

• Roots
• The Oslo Accords (History.com)
• The Oslo Accords (U.S. government site)
• The Second Intifada
• The West Bank
• A Land for All

Find Roots:
Website
Facebook
Facebook (Noor)
Facebook (Hanan)
Instagram (Roots)
Instagram (Noor)
LinkedIn (Hanan)

Elizabeth Gowing’s life changed when she moved from London to Kosovo in 2006 for her partner's job on what was supposed to be a six-month contract. Fifteen years later, Elizabeth speaks Albanian, teaches English and leads The Ideas Partnership, an NGO that offers support to people through education, health and social welfare as well as offering literacy classes, and arts and dance sessions.

Driven by a background in primary education and education policy, Elizabeth launched the nonprofit organization in 2009 to help children and families in the region. In the latest episode of the Make Meaning Podcast, Elizabeth speaks with host Lynne Golodner about the events that inspired The Ideas Partnership, how she writes about “slices of life around the world,” and the importance of seizing the moment, all the time. Elizabeth offers ideas for listeners about how to use joy to make change in the world.

In this episode, Lynne and Elizabeth discuss: 

• How learning a language deepens connections
• The importance of education for all children
• How to tackle systemic problems by thinking big & staying small
• Being authentic in your writing
• The value of spontaneity
• Storytelling as a way to better understanding

Links and Resources;

Find Elizabeth Gowing:

Website
Facebook
Twitter
Instagram
LinkedIn
Blog

Steven Wingate writes to learn foundational truths such as: Who are we? And, why do we behave the way we do? A resident of South Dakota, Steven sets his novels in the center of America, known as the heartland, flyover country or a big open expanse of unbridled wilderness. He writes about this place that he calls home to showcase its beauty and its people. Two of his books, The Leave Takers and Of Fathers and Fire have found acclaim in the Nebraska Flyover Fiction series.

In the latest episode of the Make Meaning Podcast, Steven speaks with host Lynne Golodner about teaching writing at South Dakota State University, his writing process, family and finding his voice. He believes we have many authentic voices inside us, and writing is all about tuning into the voice that speaks best for each story. He says good writing is when you feel resonance between the stories and yourself. 

In a way, every person is a storyteller, according to Jake Neher, senior producer for Detroit Today on 101.9 FM WDET in Detroit. As co-host of the weekly series and podcast MichMash,  not only does Jake have storytelling gifts, but he brings a huge passion for gardening to guide his curiosity when choosing guests and asking questions. As his radio career took him to Barrow, Alaska, New York City and finally Detroit, Jake nurtured this interest in growing things, via a little hydroponic garden in the dark and cold of America’s northernmost reaches to a lone tomato plant on a fire escape in NYC. Living in Detroit with his wife and two sons allows Jake to spend his off-the-air hours in a backyard filled with vibrant produce and plenty of space to garden! 

In the latest episode of the Make Meaning Podcast, Jake speaks with host Lynne Golodner about how he combined his passion for gardening and radio into a special series, WDET: At Home, offering tips for people learning to garden during the pandemic. He talks about how gardening can teach us to find value in underappreciated things like soil - something we tread upon every day feeds our plants and therefore feeds us. Just as he nourishes his passion for gardening, Jake suggests that we all engage with our passions unabashedly and see where they lead us.

In this episode, Lynne and Jake discuss: 

• How everyone is a storyteller
• Ways to get the whole family involved in gardening
• How what we read impacts the way we write
• How gardening can be revolutionary
• Tips for gardening newbies
• The importance of geeking out about your passions

Links and Resources:

• You are a Storyteller Podcast with Brian McDonald
• Michigan Public Radio Network
• Central Michigan University
• Aero Hydroponic Gardens
• Minnesota Midget Cantaloupe
• Joan Cherry Isabella Program Director for 101.9 WDET
• Ron Finley Ted Talk: A guerrilla gardener in South Central LA
• University of Iowa Writers’ Workshop
• Michael Carey
• WDET Series: Rooted by Annamarie Sysling
• Charles Dowding

Find Jake Neher:

Twitter 

LinkedIn

Facebook

Instagram

Dean Stark began working at Sacramento Waldorf School when he was 21. That was 37 years ago, and when he began, he had no intention of staying so long because he imagined he would go on to coach at bigger and bigger schools until he possibly landed an opportunity to coach college basketball. But staying was a great decision - perhaps the decision of his lifetime, Dean says.

In the latest episode of the Make Meaning Podcast, Dean speaks with host Lynne Golodner about how coaching SacWaldorf teams turned into his dream job because of the depth of his relationship with the students and the style of the education. Dean has written two books about his experiences and coaching philosophy, with the most recent one, Uncommon: Inside my Coaching Career at Sacramento Waldorf, one of the focuses of this interview. In this book, Dean emphasizes the importance of developing a philosophy for your life - by reflecting upon what has brought you success, where you need to improve, and using those questions to identify your strengths and how to achieve your goals moving forward.

Nancy Sharp experienced an exceptional grief when her husband died from brain cancer at the age of 39, when their twins were toddlers. She eventually left New York City for Denver to start over amid the mountain air. She left a public relations career and became a Guided Autobiography instructor, as well as the author of the bestselling memoir, Both Sides Now: A True Story of Love, Loss, and Bold Living. Her writing and her work inspire resilience.

In the latest episode of the Make Meaning Podcast, Nancy speaks with host Lynne Golodner about her writing process, her passion for teaching Guided Autobiography, how life and death can collide, and her daily practices for building a life of meaning. She says, “In order to be resilient, you have to move beyond the things that hold you back. You have to be able to transcend challenges and sometimes that means re-writing your story or a part of your story.”

When Ramona Pintea turned 40, she decided to close her interior design business and start a new path following her true passion — art. During the beginning of the pandemic, she created a piece called Mother Earth which looks at the hope amongst all the terrible things happening. She shared it on Facebook and discovered a huge audience of supporters which spurred her to create the art series Urban Queen.

In the latest episode of the Make Meaning Podcast, Ramona speaks with host Lynne Golodner about the importance of making art about women, for women. Her bright and colorful paintings explore the desires, experiences, emotions, and inner worlds of women. Ramona is a perfect example of how it is never too late to change your career path.

The reason John Wynn has built an entertainment empire and impact school children is because he begins each day with daily devotion and family check-ins. That, and the way he keeps his father’s legacy front of mind. The Reno, Nev.-based third-generation pastor and entrepreneur says he watched his father become the first African-American to host a local religious TV show and be the first Black man to sit on the Governor’s cabinet – and he knew that he would follow in his footsteps.

In the latest episode of the Make Meaning Podcast, John speaks with host Lynne Golodner about eliminating mental roadblocks, empowering youth to succeed, and finding mentors who look like you to show you what is possible. As the only boy among nine siblings and the father of eight, John says, “Sometimes you’ll find your purpose in the pathway passed down from your parents. Your purpose is identified to you young.”

The coronavirus pandemic has changed the world in so many ways. For some people, the past year has led to a major shift in the work they do, either by necessity or by desire – both of which are reasons that propelled Rebecca Jeffreys to end her 35-year career as a professional flutist and launch Sprouting Health Families.

In the latest episode of the Make Meaning Podcast, Rebecca speaks with host Lynne Golodner about how she turned her journey parenting a child with autism into an effort to support parents along their autism journeys. Her new coaching company provides one-on-one and group settings to shore up parents’ self-care and emotional strength as they guide their children through school and life.

Margaret Trimer has created a varied and fascinating career with a focus on building educational opportunities for children and girding communities with value and voice. She does this, she says, by following her personal core values. 

Beginning at the Detroit Free Press as a reporter covering education, Margaret has moved through roles as founder and director of one of the highest performing charter school districts in the region, president and CEO of Junior Achievement of Southeast Michigan, communications director at the Michigan Education Association and most recently, as VP of Strategic Partnerships of Delta Dental of Michigan, Ohio and Indiana.

In the latest episode of the Make Meaning Podcast, host Lynne Golodner speaks with Margaret about corporate caring for communities, what it takes to run extraordinary schools, and the beauty of driving across America with time to enjoy the scenery.

For Michael Ziman, life has been relatively easy. He grew up enjoying the nature of the Jersey Shore, and built a career building vacation homes in his favorite place. But when the COVID-19 pandemic shut the world down last year, he started to realize how damaged nature had been by human intrusion – and how clear and beautiful it became when humans stepped away.

In the latest episode of the Make Meaning Podcast, host Lynne Golodner speaks with Michael about how the pandemic inspired him to be more climate-conscious in his work building new homes along the Atlantic Ocean. They discuss how the pandemic inspired him to research climate change and find ways to become part of the solution. In the past year, Michael has planted more than 100,000 trees to offset the carbon emissions of the homes he builds. He’s also introduced new sustainable practices and materials to his building practices.

The past year was a challenge in so many ways, and relationships were impacted in many ways by long lockdowns, economic turbulence, and the need to work at home while guiding children in doing school remotely. But there was a sunny side for some relationships as couples settled in to more time together without the distractions of “normal” life. While some relationships reached a breaking point during the coronavirus pandemic, many grew stronger. Research shows trends in both directions, with a flurry of quarantine babies and a backlog of divorce cases facing the courts.

In the latest episode of the Make Meaning Podcast, host Lynne Golodner speaks with her husband of 10 years, Dan Golodner, and her best friend and client, divorce attorney Alisa Peskin-Shepherd, of Transitions Legal. In this episode, Lynne and Dan talk about how they fell more in love and grew closer during the pandemic, and have come to cherish their time at home together. Alisa shares what she’s seen in her law practice – how cases already in process became more intense, while the court system slowed down. Divorcing couples stuck at home together experienced more tension and anxiety. Alisa’s legal practice fielded a lot of inquiries during this time, but not necessarily people filing for divorce – until recently.

After 20 years as a teacher and school principal, Jan Tinetti knows the damage period poverty can do to young girls and women seeking to build a better life. Children as young as six would miss a week of school each month due to a lack of products to support their monthly cycle. When she became Minister for Women in the New Zealand Parliament, Jan partnered with Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern in launching an Access to Period Products pilot program in 2020 to provide free products to schools.

In the latest episode of the Make Meaning Podcast, The Hon. Jan Tinetti speaks with host Lynne Golodner about the 2021 nationwide rollout of an effort to provide free period products to all New Zealand schools. This joins other efforts to eliminate child poverty, including a universal healthy lunch program, free breakfasts, milk and fresh fruit in schools, social workers and more. “We want to focus on making New Zealand the best country in the world to be a child,” she says in the episode. 

When Lynne Golodner pivoted from journalism to public relations and marketing, she had a love-hate relationship with the PR field; it felt like crossing over to the dark side, she recalls. But Nancy Marshall, founder and CEO of Marshall Communications in Maine, never had such misgivings about the field of public relations. She loved it from a young age and has been thrilled with her decades-rich career in the industry.

In the latest episode of the Make Meaning Podcast, Nancy speaks with host Lynne Golodner about understanding yourself and your passions enough to find meaningful work. Nancy helps companies to understand how to best tell their story. A connector, she says, “Gratitude is the key to all happiness,” and she encourages people to “notice the things in daily life that you’re good at and which bring you joy.”