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    The Perfect Scam

    AARP’s weekly podcast The Perfect ScamSM tells the stories of people who find themselves the target of a scam. Host Bob Sullivan introduces listeners to those who have experienced scams firsthand, as well as professional con artists and leading experts who pull back the curtain on how scammers operate.
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    Veterans Targeted in Military Benefits Scam, Part 2

    Veterans Targeted in Military Benefits Scam, Part 2

    In Part 2, Michael, an Iraq War veteran who has fallen on hard financial times, thinks he has found help from Voyager Financial Group, which pays him a lump sum in exchange for five years’ worth of disability payments. But it has only made his money problems worse. He declares bankruptcy, and now Voyager is suing him. As he prepares to defend himself, Michael make a shocking discovery: The entire scheme is illegal and Candy Kern-Fuller and Andrew Gamber of Voyager have spent years getting rich brokering these deals, while veterans like Michael are left in financial ruin.

    The Perfect Scam
    enMarch 08, 2024

    Veterans Targeted in Military Benefits Scam, Part 1

    Veterans Targeted in Military Benefits Scam, Part 1

    The men and women who bravely fight for our nation are too often the target of financial criminals. After serving four years clearing roadside bombs in Iraq, Michael returns home and is diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder. A divorce and a series of medical emergencies leave him struggling financially and searching for some relief. Michael finds the Voyager Financial Group, which offers lump sums for military disability benefits, but Michael soon finds out the scheme will leave him in even worse shape than before.

    The Perfect Scam
    enMarch 01, 2024

    Contractor Defrauds Wisconsin Homeowners

    Contractor Defrauds Wisconsin Homeowners

    When a fire destroys his Wisconsin home, Royce Babcock and his family are forced to live out of their garage. Desperate to get his home rebuilt, Babcock hires Tyler Hansen, who has excellent reviews and reasonable rates. Delay after delay and myriad excuses leave Babcock with no choice but to take his complaints to law enforcement. This reveals a history of Hansen and his wife defrauding homeowners all over the state.

    The Perfect Scam
    enFebruary 23, 2024

    International Fraud and Money Laundering Ring Exposed, Part 2

    International Fraud and Money Laundering Ring Exposed, Part 2

    In Part 2, Homeland Security Agent Justin Deutsch and colleagues pursue Mary Marr, the leader of a fraud and money laundering ring that defrauded hundreds of victims who thought they were buying tech stocks. A member of an elusive organization called the Knights of Malta, Marr uses a diplomatic passport to evade capture across many countries before her arrest in a beauty salon in Serbia.

    The Perfect Scam
    enFebruary 16, 2024

    International Fraud and Money Laundering Ring Exposed, Part 1

    International Fraud and Money Laundering Ring Exposed, Part 1

    In 2014, Homeland Security Agent Justin Deutsch inherits a case concerning an international fraud and money laundering ring. Callers from “boiler rooms” pose as investment brokers and peddle stocks that don’t exist. Working on tips about suspicious bank accounts in Florida, Deutsch and other agents follow the money – eventually leading to the ringleader, Mary Marr. The investigation unravels a scheme that defrauded hundreds of victims around the world out of millions of dollars.

    The Perfect Scam
    enFebruary 09, 2024

    Lawyer Fights to Regain Identity from Timeshare Resale Scam

    Lawyer Fights to Regain Identity from Timeshare Resale Scam

    Todd Alper is a recently retired lawyer and teacher in New York City. One day in 2020, he learns that there are many people trying to locate the lawyer Todd Alper, even though he hasn’t actively practiced law in several years. To his astonishment, an online search reveals a website for a law office in his name. Criminals are impersonating him in an elaborate scheme targeting owners of timeshares. Todd is devastated that his name is being used to defraud innocent people, and he begins the long fight to regain his identity and his sense of control.

    The Perfect Scam
    enFebruary 02, 2024

    Archive Episode: I Borrowed Money for the Russian Mob, Part 3

    Archive Episode: I Borrowed Money for the Russian Mob, Part 3

    In Part 3 of this 2022 episode, when Therin Miller walks into the FBI office to throw himself on the mercy of the government, he’s not sure if he will leave a free man. To clear his name, he becomes an FBI informant, recording conversations with his roommate and business partner, Brant Holloway, and his associate Lyle Livesay. Therin’s work results in indictments on multiple counts of bank fraud related to the luxury car scheme, plus the arrest of a Russian mobster in Ukraine. But even with the criminals behind bars, will Therin’s life ever go back to normal?  

    The Perfect Scam
    enJanuary 26, 2024

    Archive Episode: I Borrowed Money for the Russian Mob, Part 2

    Archive Episode: I Borrowed Money for the Russian Mob, Part 2

    In part 2 of this 2022 episode, Therin Miller’s exciting new business venture with his roommate, Brent Holloway, is quickly becoming a nightmare. Not only does the luxury-car dealership seem to be part of an elaborate scam, but his girlfriend, Kristin, uncovers a connection to some very dangerous people, including notorious Russian-born mobster Mani Chulpayev. Therin could be an accessory to some serious crimes. Terrified of going to prison, or worse, he and Kirsten come up with a plan. 

    The Perfect Scam
    enJanuary 19, 2024

    Archive Episode: I Borrowed Money for the Russian Mob, Part 1

    Archive Episode: I Borrowed Money for the Russian Mob, Part 1

    In this 2022 episode, National Guardsman Therin Miller never imagined that placing an online ad for a roommate would result in something far scarier than anything he faced on two tours of combat zone duty. His new roommate, Brant Holloway, is a friendly, well-mannered local business owner. The two become fast friends, so when Brant suggests they go into business together, Therin is intrigued. Before he realizes it, Brant and his adviser, Lyle Livesay, have drawn him into a crime ring involving luxury cars and the Russian mob. His escape ― helped by his girlfriend, also a National Guard member ― is a tale of courage and honesty.

    The Perfect Scam
    enJanuary 12, 2024

    Couple and Homeless Man Conspire on Viral $400K GoFundMe Scam

    Couple and Homeless Man Conspire on Viral $400K GoFundMe Scam

    The heartwarming story of a homeless veteran, Johnny Bobbitt, who spends his last $20 to help a stranded woman captures national media attention when the woman and her boyfriend start a GoFundMe campaign to help him get on his feet. Kate McClure and Mark D’Amico raise more than $400,000 in just a few weeks. However, when things don’t seem to add up, investigators quickly learn this story is all based on a lie.

    The Perfect Scam
    enDecember 22, 2023

    Nat Geo Photographer Paul Nicklen Warns of Social Media Impostor Scams, Part 2

    Nat Geo Photographer Paul Nicklen Warns of Social Media Impostor Scams, Part 2

    In part 2, Kelly and her husband Ryan, who is retired from the Navy, are reeling from the theft of his Facebook account and fear it may be used for military-related scams. World-famous wildlife photographer Paul Nicklen is fighting his own battle against scammers impersonating him on social media. His impostors have stolen thousands of dollars from fans who think they are donating to his causes or carrying on a romantic relationship with him. To make matters worse, both Kelly and Paul have reported impostor accounts to Meta and have been told those fake accounts aren’t violating the terms of service.

    The Perfect Scam
    enDecember 15, 2023

    Nat Geo Photographer Paul Nicklen Warns of Social Media Impostor Scams, Part 1

    Nat Geo Photographer Paul Nicklen Warns of Social Media Impostor Scams, Part 1

    National Geographic photographer Paul Nicklen is renowned for incredible, one-of-a kind images of polar bears, leopard seals, narwhals and other unique species in some of the world’s coldest, most menacing climates. Sharing these intimate portraits and his experiences in places few will ever visit has gained him a large, devoted following on social media. Unfortunately, scammers have also taken notice and are operating hundreds of impostor accounts targeting his followers. Meanwhile, a veteran and his wife fight to reclaim his highjacked Facebook account from scammers.

    The Perfect Scam
    enDecember 08, 2023

    YouTube Star Kitboga Fights Fraud With Humor

    YouTube Star Kitboga Fights Fraud With Humor

    YouTube star Kitboga has turned scam baiting into performance art, delighting his 3.3 million followers with his many characters and laughs at the expense of online criminals. It started out as pure curiosity, and a way to avenge his grandparents who'd been victims of scams, but along the way, he's helped return money and hijacked accounts to victims, and he's taught a lot of viewers how online scams work. Bob sits down with Kitboga for a humorous and enlightening conversation.

    The Perfect Scam
    enDecember 01, 2023

    SIM Swapping: A Multimillion Dollar Scam

    SIM Swapping: A Multimillion Dollar Scam

    Our smartphones contain access to just about everything that’s important to us, so when criminals figure out how to exploit vulnerabilities in security on mobile devices, the results can be disastrous. In this episode, we’ll hear about a group of young criminals who use the technique of SIM swapping to target the cellphones of high-earning crypto investors and steal millions of dollars. We’ll also learn what steps you can take to safeguard your own accounts.

    The Perfect Scam
    enNovember 24, 2023

    Holiday Scams: What to Look Out For This Season

    Holiday Scams: What to Look Out For This Season

    While we are busy planning holiday gatherings and travel and buying gifts, scammers are working overtime coming up with ways to target us. In this special bonus episode, Bob sits down with Amy Nofziger, from the AARP Fraud Watch Network Helpline, to talk about the ways criminals are following seasonal trends to exploit common scams. These include social media ads, shipping text messages, gift cards, charity giving, pet scams, seasonal work and holiday travel.

    The Perfect Scam
    enNovember 17, 2023

    Phone Scams and the Human Trafficking Connection

    Phone Scams and the Human Trafficking Connection

    Have you ever thought about who might be on the other end of those scam calls and messages we all receive? The answer could be far more sinister than you might imagine. The “scammer” may also be a victim of human trafficking. These people are lured by the promise of well-paid jobs to travel to countries in Southeast Asia and are then forced to work in prison-like scam compounds. A BBC journalist and brave volunteers work to expose this brutal practice.

    The Perfect Scam
    enNovember 10, 2023

    A Veteran Rebuilds His Life After a Scam Takes Everything

    A Veteran Rebuilds His Life After a Scam Takes Everything

    When David meets a woman, based in the Philippines, on a dating app he feels he’s made a real connection. While not romantic, over the course of a year they develop a deep friendship. One day she comes to David with a problem: She needs some help dealing with a property owned by her ailing grandmother. It starts with a small loan, but as the issues pile up, David exhausts his personal resources and borrows money from family and friends. His life spirals out of control when he loses his home, and the discovery of the scam causes friends and family to turn their backs on him. With the help of a support group, David finds healing and begins to rebuild his life and help others facing the same challenges. 

    The Perfect Scam
    enNovember 03, 2023

    Criminals Deceive Search Engines With Fake Results

    Criminals Deceive Search Engines With Fake Results

    You’ve heard the advice: When you receive an unexpected phone call from a company, hang up and call its verified phone number. But can you trust an internet search to find a valid number? Criminals have figured out how to deceive search engines including Google and put fake phone numbers in search results that look like the real thing. This malvertising, or malicious advertising, can lead to disaster for consumers like Marcia whose search for Amazon’s customer service number goes very wrong. 

    The Perfect Scam
    enOctober 27, 2023

    AI and Scams: What You Should Know

    AI and Scams: What You Should Know

    This week, we are bringing you a very special episode about a new development in the tech world that threatens to make things much easier for criminals – artificial intelligence. AI is already being used to supercharge the common grandparent and imposter scams because it’s relatively cheap and easy to clone a person’s voice and make it say whatever you want. We use examples with Bob’s own voice to show you how it’s being done and what to look out for.

    The Perfect Scam
    enOctober 20, 2023

    Psychic Mail Fraud Scheme Enabled by Data Firm

    Psychic Mail Fraud Scheme Enabled by Data Firm

    In 2018, The Perfect Scam brought you the story of the French psychic Maria Duval mail fraud impostor scheme. For decades, criminals, led by a man named Patrice Runner, used Duval’s name and image on letters sent all over the U.S. and the world, promising good fortune in exchange for regular payments, and threatening disaster for those who ignored the solicitations. Federal investigators estimate the scam impacted 1 in 300 Americans and raked in over $200 million. The U.S. Postal Inspection Service finally put a stop to the letters in 2014, but even when we covered the story in 2018 Runner was still on the run. In this episode, Bob checks in with USPIS Inspector Clayton Gerber to find out how the fight for justice is going, and learns how one of the world’s largest marketing companies, Epsilon, played a major role in the scheme. 

    The Perfect Scam
    enOctober 13, 2023