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    They Think It's All Sober

    Join Jamie and Tom each week as they interview musicians, artists, influencers and athletes about cutting alcohol and other substances from their lives. 


    Hear about how they did it, their motivations and the benefits of sobriety, with a few gory stories of the sesh along the way. 


    Jamie and Tom are also joined weekly by counsellor / psychotherapist David Gibbs to give professional context to the discussions and provide some great resources for people looking to change their relationship with alcohol.


    No preaching, no judgement, just honesty. 


    They Think It’s All Sober, it is now!

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    Episodes (34)

    Suzanne Shaw: Pure And Simple, A Life Without Alcohol

    Suzanne Shaw: Pure And Simple, A Life Without Alcohol

    Singer, actress and 00's icon, Suzanne Shaw,  joins Jamie and Tom on the podcast this week!

    Suzanna rose to fame in 2001 after winning UK talent show 'Popstars', becoming a member of the widely popular music group Hear'Say. After the band broke up, Suzanne established herself as a leading lady in musical theatre, as well as an model, TV presenter and actor. All by age 23. As you can imagine, Suzanne was living life in the fast lane and became very familiar with alcohol and having a good time - which the UK tabloids loved.

    After a couple of tough relationships, showbiz lows and coming to terms with the reality of being a single mother, Suzanne realised that booze was serving her no purpose and decided to cut it out of her life. Well she tried - and tried again - and some more - until she totally managed to redefine her relationship with alcohol for good. 

    In this episode we explore the impact of dating an addict, the real effect of alcohol on your health and how to be kind to yourself when you have temptations to drink.

    Follow us on socials - https://www.instagram.com/thinkitsallsober or email us at theythinkitsallsober@gmail.com

    They Think It's All Sober
    en-gbMarch 07, 2024

    Leanne Hainsby: Grief Is Love With Nowhere To Go

    Leanne Hainsby: Grief Is Love With Nowhere To Go
    WE'RE BACK FOR SEASON 3 LETS GO! Time to continue redefining our relationship with alcohol with all you beautiful listeners! We missed you and are so glad to be back.

    Who better to kick off a new season with than sober Peloton Instructor and breast-cancer survivor, Leanne Hainsby.

    Leanne Hainsby is a former professional dancer who is currently smashing the fitness scene, motivating Peloton users all over the country. Before becoming a wellbeing guru, she was partying most days because of work - which lead to consuming quite a large amount of the alcohol... However, life changed drastically for Leanne after she was diagnosed with breast cancer at 35, 2 days after her friend passed away.

    In this episode Leanne bravely opens up to us about her experience of overcoming breast cancer, and the role that sobriety had to play alongside that. This is an extremely powerful and emotional listen which really puts health and wellbeing at the centre of its conversation. Leanne is an abolsute hero and glowing individual and we cannot wait for you to hear her story.

    T/W: This episode contains real and difficult conversation around grief and death. Please only listen if it feels safe for you.

    Follow us on socials - https://www.instagram.com/thinkitsallsober or email us at theythinkitsallsober@gmail.com

    They Think It's All Sober
    en-gbFebruary 29, 2024

    Last Orders! Season 2 Finale

    Last Orders! Season 2 Finale

    And just like that, another sober podcast season comes to an end... Thank you all SO MUCH for being with us on this journey! Whether you've been with us from the start, or if this is your first episode, we couldn't have done it without your support. We never thought we'd be blessed with such a kind hearted community - you're all amazing and inspire us to continue our sober journey, so this episodes for you! 

    In this final show, Jamie and Tom dive into listener questions, discuss their stand out lessons from season 2 and tease many exciting sober curious plans coming up! 

    Whether you're sober or sober curious, remember, you got this! Take each day as it comes.

    Subscribe so you don't miss series 3! Back in a couple weeks - see you there!

    Follow us on socials - https://www.instagram.com/thinkitsallsober or email us at theythinkitsallsober@gmail.com

    They Think It's All Sober
    en-gbFebruary 08, 2024

    Spencer Matthews: Striving For Happiness

    Spencer Matthews: Striving For Happiness

    Congratulations all you dry January Drinkers! To commemorate the moment, we've only got TV star, podcaster and 'CleanCo' entrepreneur, Spencer Matthews on the podcast!

    Spencer made a name for himself in 2011, appearing in 'Made In Chelsea', a show that captured the life of affluent young people living in West London. He explains on the pod how filming for a TV show affected his drinking habits negatively... After too many nights of drinking whiskey on the sofa, Spencer decided to call it quits and go sober. His sobriety went from strength to strength, leading him to start his own business called 'CleanCo' which specialises in creating different non-alcoholic products for all to enjoy! (They're very tasty).

    This conversation with Spencer is really interesting for a number of reasons, one of those being his decision to drink again after becoming alcohol free. Definitely a powerful conversation which listeners will take many key learnings from! 

    In this episode, Spencer shares with Jamie and Tom how he managed to overcome addiction, why we should all practice resilience and what he taps into to stay in control.

    Follow us on socials - https://www.instagram.com/thinkitsallsober or email us at theythinkitsallsober@gmail.com

    They Think It's All Sober
    en-gbFebruary 01, 2024

    Mathew Pritchard: From Dirty Sanchez to Sober Clean Chef

    Mathew Pritchard: From Dirty Sanchez to Sober Clean Chef

    Are you ready for an absolute naughties hero?! 

    Jamie and Tom have only gone and got professional skateboarder, stunt performer, celebrity chef, and triathlon athlete, Mathew Pritchard on the podcast!

    Pritchard rose to fame performing unbelievable stunts as one half of 'Dirty Sanchez' on MTV's 'Balls Of Steel'. Now, he's moved into the health & wellness space, competing in ultra endurance races around the world as well as currently dominating the vegan cooking space with his recipe books and TV show. 

    In this episode, Pritchard opens up to Jamie and Tom about his decision to go sober and pursue a life free from the naughty stuff.

    Follow us on socials - https://www.instagram.com/thinkitsallsober or email us at theythinkitsallsober@gmail.com

    They Think It's All Sober
    en-gbJanuary 25, 2024

    Relationships: Tawny Lara - The Sober Sexpert (Pt 2)

    Relationships: Tawny Lara - The Sober Sexpert (Pt 2)

    Time to turn up the heat for the second instalment of our relationship special...

    Author and podcaster, Tawny Lara AKA The Sober Sexpert, calls in from NYC to give us her best alcohol-free dating and sober sex tips! 

    Tawny writes on how to have better sex, better dates, and better partnerships - without relying on alcohol. In this episode, she talks to Jamie and Tom about her new book 'Dry Humping' and offers advice on ways to feel confident when dating sober, how to practice real intimacy  and suggests an alcohol-free aphrodisiac...

    Jamie is also joined by our resident Sober Psychotherapist, David Gibbs! Who shares his takeaways on dating sober.

    Follow us on socials - https://www.instagram.com/thinkitsallsober or email us at theythinkitsallsober@gmail.com

    They Think It's All Sober
    en-gbJanuary 18, 2024

    Relationships: Ricci and Alisha (Black & Sober Podcast) - Sobriety Saved Our Marriage (Pt 1)

    Relationships: Ricci and Alisha (Black & Sober Podcast) - Sobriety Saved Our Marriage (Pt 1)

    It’s time to get up close and personal in our two part relationship special.

    This week Jamie and Tom are joined by not one, but two guests! Married couple Ricci and Alisha. 

    'Black & Sober' Podcast couple, Ricci and Alisha, decided to go sober 8-months ago after both having a troublesome relationship with alcohol. In this episode, they rejoice about the impact cutting alcohol has had on their 6 year long marriage and describe how they did it. A very interesting insight into how you can change the dynamic of your relationship by cutting alcohol from your lives.

    Jamie and Tom also discuss in depth their own experiences in the first instalment of this two part special!

    Follow us on socials - https://www.instagram.com/thinkitsallsober or email us at theythinkitsallsober@gmail.com


    They Think It's All Sober
    en-gbJanuary 11, 2024

    Heroes Of The Zeroes: Luke Boase - The Lucky Saint

    Heroes Of The Zeroes: Luke Boase - The Lucky Saint

    For those of you that are regular listeners, you’ll know that Jamie and Tom love seeing one thing more than anything - Lucky Saint on draft. 

    This week on the podcast we have been blessed by the Lucky Saint himself, Luke Boase. 

    Luke founded Lucky Saint in 2018 after becoming frustrated with the lack of quality UK alcohol-free beer. Skip forward to 2023, Lucky Saint now owns a pub, is stocked on draft in hundreds of pubs around the UK and is even Arsenal FC (boooo), non alcoholic beer of choice. Lucky Saint recently launched their new alcohol-free Hazy IPA.

    This episode gives you a glimpse into the mechanics of a alcohol-free brand - learn about the science of creating the taste, the challenges the alcohol-free industry faces and how you could also make an impact on the industry but trying something new just like Luke did.

    Follow us on socials - https://www.instagram.com/thinkitsallsober or email us at theythinkitsallsober@gmail.com

    They Think It's All Sober
    en-gbJanuary 04, 2024

    Sober Curious Questions

    Sober Curious Questions

    Jamie and Tom sit down to answer your listener questions! Plenty of tips, advice and motivation bottled into one episode.

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    They Think It's All Sober
    en-gbDecember 28, 2023

    They Think It’s All Sober: 2023 round up

    They Think It’s All Sober: 2023 round up

    Jamie and Tom look back on the year and celebrate sobriety, distilling their favourite moments and lessons from the show so far. Hear from the listeners too, who share their sober wins going into 2024! This show is full of good energy and interesting learnings! Thank you all for your support!

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    They Think It's All Sober
    en-gbDecember 21, 2023

    Ollie Eats: Under The Influencer

    Ollie Eats: Under The Influencer

    The kebab king! Food and travel content creator, Ollie Eats, swings by the studio in this episode!

    Ollie is a well known eater (what a cool reputation!)... a couple of years back he gained a huge following online after packing in his barbering career to pursue his delicious passion of reviewing food! But with food, comes alcohol...plenty of alcohol. Fine wines, craft beers and IPA's - the list goes on and it all has to be reviewed.

    Join us on this succulent episode as Ollie describes to Jamie and Tom how he fell into the depths of habitual drinking, what helped him beat his cravings of enjoying food with booze and the impact sobriety has had on his relationship with friends and family.

    Follow us on socials - https://www.instagram.com/thinkitsallsober or email us at theythinkitsallsober@gmail.com

    They Think It's All Sober
    en-gbDecember 14, 2023

    Abi Feltham: Chasing Chaos

    Abi Feltham: Chasing Chaos

    Internet personality Abi Feltham hit headlines this year after speaking out about her drinking addiction which started at age 14. Now three and a half years sober she has amassed a huge following online where she documents her Sobriety and mental health journey. But as Abi describes in this episode, her journey up to going sober has not been easy... In this episode, Abi opens up to Jamie and Tom about why she chose to chase the chaos, the impact of abusing drugs and how she saved herself from the depths of depression.

    This podcasts contains conversation around suicide, substance abuse and death. Please only listen if it feels safe for you.

    Follow us on socials - https://www.instagram.com/thinkitsallsober or email us at theythinkitsallsober@gmail.com

    They Think It's All Sober
    en-gbDecember 07, 2023

    So-Ho-Ho-Ber: Navigating The Festive Season

    So-Ho-Ho-Ber: Navigating The Festive Season

    For many people, the festive period brings its own set of challenges - embarrassing yourself at the work Christmas party, drinking far too much alcohol everyday or seeing that aunty you always disagree with. With so much stacked anticipation, more and more of us are looking toward celebrating Christmas alcohol free. 

    In this episode Jamie, Tom and a selection of special guests, offer their best pieces of advice for helping you enjoy a sober Christmas.

    Follow us on socials - https://www.instagram.com/thinkitsallsober or email us at theythinkitsallsober@gmail.com

    They Think It's All Sober
    en-gbNovember 30, 2023

    Sarah Turner (The Unmumsy Mum): Death By A Thousand Cuts

    Sarah Turner (The Unmumsy Mum): Death By A Thousand Cuts

    Author and mumfluencer, Sarah Turner AKA The Unmumsy Mum, joins Jamie and Tom in the studio!

    Sarah rose to fame after posting her brutally honest and funny experiences of being a mum online. She amassed a huge following of parents which led to her releasing a series of books about being a 21st century mum. Sarah is also over a year sober and now speaks about this experience. We all know parenting isn't easy, but does alcohol consumption make it any easier? 

    In this episode we delve into why we drink at work, raising kids on a hangover and how you can find confidence in places other than a bottle of wine.

    Follow us on socials - https://www.instagram.com/thinkitsallsober or email us at theythinkitsallsober@gmail.com

    They Think It's All Sober
    en-gbNovember 23, 2023

    Matt Willis: Showing Shame To The Light

    Matt Willis: Showing Shame To The Light

    Jamie and Tom are joined by the legendary 'Busted' band member and documentary maker Matt Willis.

    Matt was part of the infamous pop rock band that rose to fame in the early 2000's. His life quickly changed from hanging around London pubs to selling out world tours. Whilst Matt explains in this episode that he enjoyed drinking before the fame, the high octane lifestyle of a touring rockstar quickly amplified that pleasure, and he became addicted to alcohol. Matt's story is truly inspiring - from going sober to relapsing to beating it all again. Truly remarkable. This podcast is full of amazing advice and important learnings that can aid you in your journey of challenging your relationship with alcohol.

    Follow us on socials - https://www.instagram.com/thinkitsallsober or email us at theythinkitsallsober@gmail.com

    They Think It's All Sober
    en-gbNovember 16, 2023

    Dean McCullough: Know Your Worth

    Dean McCullough: Know Your Worth

    Radio 1 Presenter and Gaydio alumni Dean McCullough joins us in the studio this week!

    If you're a fan of pop culture, good music and belly laughs, you'll definitely recognise Dean from your TV screen and radio! He's an absolute Irish gem! He fills every room with his infectious energy and charm, and you can tell he is the life and soul of the party (even without a drink). 

    In this episode, Dean opens up to us about the impact of drinking from a young age, his motivations for wanting to re-evaluate his relationship with alcohol and how goals can be met with perseverance.

    Follow us on socials - https://www.instagram.com/thinkitsallsober or email us at theythinkitsallsober@gmail.com

    They Think It's All Sober
    en-gbNovember 09, 2023

    David Gibbs: The Sober Psychotherapist

    David Gibbs: The Sober Psychotherapist

    Season 2 is here baby! Jamie and Tom are back with another huge series! Full of more sobriety stories, drinking advice and honest people. 

    For this first episode, we are joined by the man, the myth, the cupboard legend - our sober psychotherapist David Gibbs. 

    David Gibbs is our resident therapist who pops up at the end of our episodes to provide some further understanding and science to what we heard throughout the guest interview. Regular listeners will remember him from season 1! However this time is different, we got Gibbs in the hot seat being interviewed - we want to hear all about his story, what made him give up alcohol and how sobriety has benefited his life.

     TW/ this episode contains mentions of suicide and alcohol abuse. Please only listen if it feels safe for you.

    Follow us on socials - https://www.instagram.com/thinkitsallsober or email us at theythinkitsallsober@gmail.com

    They Think It's All Sober
    en-gbNovember 02, 2023

    Sober October

    Sober October

    We couldn't stay away! Here's a quick little episode on some tips and tricks for Sober October. We highly recommend trying a month off the sauce so give this a listen and see how you get on... 

    They Think It's All Sober
    en-gbOctober 05, 2023

    Tom's Story

    Tom's Story

    This week's episode is the season finale! Following Jamie's episode a couple of weeks ago, it was only fitting to tell my story too.  Hear about my journey, the struggles, benefits and the honest reality of drink and drugs within the music / entertainment industry along with my experience of parenting during both the sesh years and the more recent sober ones!

    They Think It's All Sober
    en-gbSeptember 28, 2023

    Adam Biddle: Drive & Determination

    Adam Biddle: Drive & Determination

    This week Tom and Jamie are joined by entrepreneur and social media agency mogul Adam Biddle. Having grown up with Tom and at one point being his boss, Adam tells his story of how he became the MD of a global marketing agency at just 19 years old. This weeks different perspective highlights a different motivation for sobriety - not through necessity but through determination to be the best!

    They Think It's All Sober
    en-gbSeptember 21, 2023
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