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    This Is Not Church Podcast

    This Is Not Church podcast offers a compelling and thought-provoking exploration of the intersections between deconstruction, activism, spirituality, and the LGBTQIA+ community, as well as vital issues like Black Lives Matter and First Nations' rights. Hosted by passionate individuals who are dedicated to fostering open and inclusive conversations, this podcast delves into the complex journey of deconstructing one's faith, while simultaneously embracing and advocating for the rights and stories of the LGBTQIA+ community, as well as the fight for racial justice within the Black Lives Matter movement and the preservation of First Nations' cultures and rights. With a focus on examining the evolving landscapes of faith and identity, "This Is Not Church" provides a safe and informative space for listeners to engage with narratives of self-discovery, resilience, and transformation, ultimately encouraging a more empathetic and understanding society.
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    Episodes (187)

    Holy Hell: A Conversation With Derek Kubilus

    Holy Hell: A Conversation With Derek Kubilus

    Disciple Interrupted: A Conversation With Sara Heacox Sosa

    Disciple Interrupted: A Conversation With Sara Heacox Sosa

    Marriage In The Bible: A Conversation With Jennifer Bird

    Marriage In The Bible: A Conversation With Jennifer Bird
    • This Quoircast podcast is brought to you by RJ The Astronaut by Jon Turney. Published by Quoir and available now.
    • In this episode we chat with Jennifer Bird
    • An East Coaster by upbringing, undergrad, and graduate schools, Dr. Bird has taught in New Jersey, Texas, Tennessee, North Carolina, Oregon and Virginia. She is currently embracing the title, "independent public biblical scholar," and you can follow her commentary and interview videos and her official co-hosted podcast at the links at the top of this site. Her background within the United Methodist Church, education in a Presbyterian affiliated institution, time spent in several ministerial contexts, six years of graduate work in biblical studies, and more than 25 years of teaching in classrooms of all kinds all inform her approach to having quite honest, and sometimes difficult, conversations about what is actually to be found in the scriptures of the Christian Bible.
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    • Listen to her podcast Wild Olive here
    • You can purchase Marriage In The Bible on Amazon.com
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    • Jonathan Foster     Sacred Thoughts     Holy Heretics     Reframing Our Stories
    • Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

    Giving Up God: A Conversation With Sarah Henn Hayward

    Giving Up God: A Conversation With Sarah Henn Hayward

    Out Of Focus: A Conversation With Amber Cantorna-Wylde

    Out Of Focus: A Conversation With Amber Cantorna-Wylde

    The Beautiful Madness: A Conversation With Robert Hudson

    The Beautiful Madness: A Conversation With Robert Hudson
    • The Quoircast podcast is brought to you by Ideas Digest. Can religion be our trusted guide through life's challenges, or does it sometimes mislead us?
    • In this episode we talk with Robert Hudson
    • In third grade Robert knew that books would be his life—reading them, writing them, and making them. He has been a teacher, a book-store clerk, a journal editor, a translator, a book designer, a proofreader, a small-press publisher, a writer, and he has certificates in bookbinding and hand printing. Robert was an editor at Zondervan for 30+ years. He is best known as the author of The Christian Writer’s Manual of Style and has authored twelve books in all. He is a member of the West Michigan Thomas Merton Society, the International Dante Society, and the Traherne Association, and he serves on the board of the Calvin College Center for Faith and Writing.
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    • You can purchase The Beautiful Madness Of Martin Bonham on Amazon.com
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    • Jonathan Foster     Sacred Thoughts     Holy Heretics     Reframing Our Stories
    • Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

    The Gospel According To James Baldwin: A Conversation With Greg Garrett

    The Gospel According To James Baldwin: A Conversation With Greg Garrett

    Karma And Grace: A Conversation With Neena Mahadev

    Karma And Grace: A Conversation With Neena Mahadev
    • This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by  Second Cup With Keith Podcast. Keith Giles will provide new insights and perspectives on a variety of questions and topics related to the Christian faith. So, pull up a chair, pour yourself a hot mug of your favorite coffee or tea, and let's learn something new together.
    • In this episode we chat with Neenah Mahadev
    • Assistant Professor Neena Mahadev is an anthropologist with research, theoretical, and teaching expertise in the anthropology of religion, media and ritual mediations, political economy, pluralism, political theologies, South Asia, and Inter-Asian Studies. She has carried out extensive fieldwork in Sri Lanka, and also in Singapore. She received her PhD in Anthropology from Johns Hopkins University, an MA in Social Sciences from the University of Chicago, and a BA in Sociology/Anthropology from Carleton College. Dr Mahadev serves on the editorial boards of the Journal of Global Buddhism, and also for the new book series New Directions in the Anthropology of Christianity. She holds a stewardship role as an Advisory Board Member of Omnia Institute, an international organization dedicated to grassroots Inter-Religious Peacemaking work in several sites of conflict.
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    • You can purchase Karma and Grace on Amazon.com
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    • Jonathan Foster     Sacred Thoughts     Holy Heretics     Reframing Our Stories
    • Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

    What To Believe: A Conversation With John D Caputo

    What To Believe: A Conversation With John D Caputo
    • This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by Religious Refugees by Mark Karris. Published by Quoir and available now.
    • In this episode we chat with John D Caputo
    • John D. Caputo is a hybrid philosopher/theologian intent on producing impure thoughts, thoughts which circulate between philosophy and theology, short-circuits which deny fixed and rigorous boundaries between philosophy and theology. Caputo treats "sacred" texts as a poetics of the human condition, or as a "theo-poetics," a poetics of the event harbored in the name of God. His past books have attempted to persuade us that hermeneutics goes all the way down (Radical Hermeneutics), that Derrida is a thinker to be reckoned with by theology (The Prayers and Tears of Jacques Derrida), and that theology is best served by getting over its love affair with power and authority and embracing what Caputo calls, following St. Paul, The Weakness of God. He has also addressed wider-than-academic audiences in On Religion and What Would Jesus Deconstruct? and has an interest in interacting with the working church groups like ikon and the “Emergent” Church. He is currently working in a book on our frail and mortal flesh, probably to be entitled The Fate of All Flesh: A Theology of the Event, II.
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    • Jonathan Foster     Sacred Thoughts     Holy Heretics     Reframing Our Stories
    • Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

    Sitting In The Shade Of Another Tree: A Conversation With Keith Giles & Matthew Distefano

    Sitting In The Shade Of Another Tree: A Conversation With Keith Giles & Matthew Distefano
    • This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by There Once Were Orange Groves by David Giles. Published by Quoir and available now
    • In this episode we chat with Keith Giles and Matthew Distefano
    • Keith Giles is a former pastor who left the pulpit to follow Jesus and start a house church where no one takes a salary and 100 percent of all offerings are given to help the poor in the community. He has been a published writer since 1989. He is the author of several books, including: "Jesus Unbound: Liberating the Word of God from the Bible" and "Jesus Untangled: Crucifying Our Politics To Pledge Allegiance To The Lamb." Keith is the co-host of the Heretic Happy Hour Podcast which has featured interviews with Bart Ehrman, John Fugelsang, Richard Rohr, Brad Jersak, Greg Boyd, and many others.Keith also teaches several online courses including "Square 1: From Deconstruction to Reconstruction" and other courses based on his many books.
    • Matthew J. Distefano is the author of multiple books, including the wildly popular Heretic! and From the Blood of Abel. He is an audio engineer, the producer of the Heretic Happy Hour podcast, cohost of Apostates Anonymous, and is a regular columnist for Patheos. He holds an undergraduate degree in Education from California State University, Chico, and has been in social work for over a decade, currently working as a Professional Service Coordinator in Butte County, California. In addition to his professional life, Matthew enjoys gardening, bicycling, and European football. He is a huge Tolkien nerd who one day hopes to live in Bag End with his wife and daughter.
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    • Jonathan Foster     Sacred Thoughts     Holy Heretics     Reframing Our Stories
    • Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

    Finally Free: A Conversation With Seth Showalter

    Finally Free: A Conversation With Seth Showalter

    Detoxing Christianity: A Conversation With April Ajoy

    Detoxing Christianity: A Conversation With April Ajoy

    December Rebroadcast: The Art Of The Dissident: A Conversation With David Hayward (The Naked Pastor)

    December Rebroadcast: The Art Of The Dissident: A Conversation With David Hayward (The Naked Pastor)
    • This Quoircast episode is brought to you by The Seeds Of De(con)struction by Nat Turney. Published by Quoir and available now
    • In this episode we talk with David Hayward - AKA The Naked Pastor.
    • After 30 years in the church, David left the ministry to pursue his passion for art. David Hayward - AKA NakedPastor uses words and images to challenge the status quo, deconstruct dogma, and offer hope for those who struggle and suffer under it.
      David is no stranger to belief systems - he holds a Masters in Theological Studies, as well as Diplomas in Religious Studies and Ministry, and University Teaching. His art expresses the stories and struggles of spiritual refugees and independent thinkers who question, doubt or oppose the confines of religion. Each piece encourages difficult conversations and acts as a catalyst for critical thinking. David is an artist and writer who supports LGBTQ+ people and groups, BIPOC and women artists, creatives, journalists, and more, and encourage others to do the same.
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    • Jonathan Foster     Sacred Thoughts     Holy Heretics     Reframing Our Stories
    • Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

    God Is Everywhere: A Conversation With Victoria Powers & Cameron Vickrey

    God Is Everywhere: A Conversation With Victoria Powers & Cameron Vickrey
    • This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by Snarky Faith. Your irreverent guide to navigating the maze of life, culture, and spirituality. Hosted by Stuart Delony.
    • In this episode we chat with  Victoria Robb Powers & Cameron Mason Vickrey
    • Rev. Victoria Robb Powers is the Executive Pastor at University Park United Methodist Church. She is a graduate of Baylor University and Brite Divinity School at Texas Christian University. After two years of serving as a hospital chaplain, she has spent the last eight years in parish ministry. Victoria and her family live in Dallas, Texas. Together they love to travel, take walks around White Rock Lake, and play with their golden retriever.
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    • Cameron Mason Vickrey is a graduate of Furman University and Wake Forest University School of Divinity. She currently works for Fellowship Southwest, sharing stories of ministry and mission along the US--Mexico border and advocating for migrants. She is also passionate about public education, and co-founded a nonprofit called RootEd, galvanizing parents of public school children to tell their stories and become advocates. Cameron lives in San Antonio with her family. Her free time is spent with her kids; wishing she were a gardener; teaching Sunday school to middle schoolers, and reading lots of books.
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    • Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

    December Rebroadcast: Getting Comfortable in Uncomfortable Conversations with Felicia Murrell & Mercy Aiken

    December Rebroadcast: Getting Comfortable in Uncomfortable Conversations with Felicia Murrell & Mercy Aiken
    • This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by The Seeds of De(con)struction by Nat Turney. Published by Quoir and available now.
    • In this episode we chat with Felicia Murrell & Mercy Aiken
    • Felicia is an ordained pastor with River Fellowship and presently resides in Atlanta, Georgia with her husband, Doug. Together they have served in church leadership and ministerial roles for almost 20 years. Currently, they oversee Wise Counsel Ministries bringing transformation to both people and organizations. Felicia’s greatest joy is loving people. With a heart to equip and empower others, her passion is to bring others into a revelation of sonship where they learn to walk as Jesus walked through the experience of Father God continuously loving them. She and Doug have 4 adult children.
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    • Mercy Aiken made Israel and Palestine lived intermittently in Bethlehem, Palestine, from September 2015 to the summer of 2020. Prior to this, she worked many years as a writer and leader in various web-based ministries and leadership in local churches. She is involved with Bethlehem Bible College and the biannual Christ at the Checkpoint conference held in Bethlehem which challenges evangelicals to consider the perspective and experience of Palestinian Christians. She is also committed to relationship and bridge-building work with Muslims and Jews. She is currently pursuing a Master’s Degree through St. Stephen's University and is the author of a soon-to-be-released book about Dr. Bishara Awad, the founder of Bethlehem Bible College, tentatively entitled "Fire in Bethlehem."
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    • Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

    Intersexion: A Conversation With Cynthia Vacca Davis

    Intersexion: A Conversation With Cynthia Vacca Davis

    And So By Fire: A Conversation With Brandon Andress

    And So By Fire: A Conversation With Brandon Andress

    The Quiet House: A Conversation With Ron Greer

    The Quiet House: A Conversation With Ron Greer

    November Rebroascast: Only Love: How Everything Was. Is. And Will Be With Niq Ruud

    November Rebroascast: Only Love: How Everything Was. Is. And Will Be With Niq Ruud
    • This Quoircast episode is brought to you by The Seeds of De(con)struction by Nat Turney. Published by Quoir and available now
    • In this episode we talk with Niq Ruud
    • Niq Ruud, whose unique name bears the influence of a father's quirky spelling but is pronounced akin to a beloved Christmas saint, is a true Pacific Northwesterner at heart. Growing up amidst the scenic wonders of the region, Niq developed a passion for outdoor activities, embracing pursuits such as alpine climbing, sailing, surfing, skiing, cycling, and more. Niq's academic journey led to a profound exploration of religion. Graduating from Walla Walla University with a focus on this field, Niq took on the role of a pastor while concurrently pursuing theological studies at Grand Canyon Theological Seminary. Currently a postgraduate student at the University of Edinburgh, Niq delves into the intricate intersectionality between philosophy, science, and religion, with a particular focus on the human perception of God. A polymath at heart, Niq's intellectual interests span a wide array of subjects, including religious pluralism, philosophy of science and religion, eschatology, diversity, and ethics. These diverse pursuits converge around the central theme of understanding how humanity perceives the divine. Niq is also a published author, having penned a book titled "Only Love: How Everything Was, Is, and Will Be." This work advocates for a broad-minded perspective on God and, consequently, a more inclusive outlook on human relationships. Niq's writing encourages readers to embrace a more open-minded view of spirituality, fostering understanding and unity among individuals. The author holds a genuine affection for the book and invites others to explore its pages, suggesting that they might find resonance with its message of love and inclusivity.
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    • Check out his TedTalk HERE
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    • Jonathan Foster     Sacred Thoughts     Holy Heretics     Reframing Our Stories
    • Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

    There Once Were Orange Groves: A Conversation With David Giles

    There Once Were Orange Groves: A Conversation With David Giles