VYS0038 | Fuck Capitalism! - Vayse to Face with Rob Kristoffersen
VYS0038 | Fuck Capitalism! - Vayse to Face with Rob Kristoffersen - Show Notes
Unable to put off dedicating an episode to the UFO mystery any longer, Hine and Buckley welcome researcher, podcaster and writer Rob Kristoffersen. Rob is the creator and host of the incredibly popular podcast Our Strange Skies: UFOs Throughout History, co-creator of the web-comic Welcome UFO People and expert on all things extra-terrestrial, ultra-terrestrial, crypto-terrestrial and any other form in which the phenomenon may choose to manifest. Rob talks about his own weird experiences and Hine and Buckley waste no time in asking him the questions that keep them awake at night: What exactly is it that people are seeing when they see UFOs? Are UFO and alien encounters a range of different experiences and phenomena or are they all the same thing viewed through different lenses? What's the deal with Whitley Strieber and what the deal with Jacques Vallée? Is there a connection between UFOs and death? What's really behind the whole Disclosure movement? Which Cryptid has the best PR person? and what does Rob really think about capitalism...? (Recorded 4 March 2024)
Thanks to Rob for his time and thanks as always to Keith for the show notes, catch up with Keith at: @peakflow.bsky.social
Rob Kristoffersen online
Our Strange Skies website (https://www.ourstrangeskies.com/)
Our Strange Skies on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/ourstrangeskies/)
Our Strange Skies on Twitter (https://twitter.com/OurStrangeSkies)
Welcome UFO People on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/welcomeufopeople/)
Welcome UFO People on Twitter (https://twitter.com/welcomeufopeeps)
Rob on Twitter (https://twitter.com/YerUFOGuy)
Rob on Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/yerufoguy)
Hine’s intro (and Buckley’s reminiscences)
Glasgow - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow)
Gene Wilder - Pure Imagination (from "Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory" (1971) ) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVi3-PrQ0pY)
Willy Wonka experience: How did the viral sensation go so wrong? - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-68431728)
Willy Wonka: The Unknown star of viral chocolate experience unmasked - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-68458043)
Willy Wonka - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka)
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (novel) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_and_the_Chocolate_Factory)
Float (parade) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Float_(parade))
Salmonella - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmonella)
Queen’s Greatest Flix (1981) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pcGWnrCb_s)
Close Encounters of the Third Kind (film) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Encounters_of_the_Third_Kind)
Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977) - Original Trailer - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxp32VHaYdE&t=175s)
Todd Purse on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/toddde85/)
Richard Doty - Exopaedia (https://www.exopaedia.org/Doty%2C+Richard)
Avoiding talking about UFOs
VYS0020 | Messages of Deception - Vayse to Face with Mark Pilkington (https://www.vayse.co.uk/vys0020)
VYS0030 | To Believe or Not to Believe - Vayse to Face with Emily Louise (https://www.vayse.co.uk/vys0030)
UFO conspiracy theories: Disclosure - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_conspiracy_theories#Disclosure)
‘It only takes one to be real and it changes humanity for ever’: what if we’ve been lied to about UFOs? - The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/science/2024/jan/14/what-happens-if-we-have-been-visited-by-aliens-lied-to-ufos-uaps-grusch-congress)
What made Rob want to start a podcast about UFOs?
Area 51 stored egg-shaped, SUV-sized UFO in the 1980s, claims whistleblower - Express (https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/1844931/area-51-egg-shaped-ufo-1980s-whistleblower)
UFO and UAP Shapes and Sizes - Unidentified Phenomena (https://unidentifiedphenomena.com/topics/ufo-and-uap-shapes-and-sizes/)
Volkswagen Beetle (VW Bug) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Beetle)
Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell (novel) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Strange_%26_Mr_Norrell)
Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell by Susanna Clarke - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/14201.Jonathan_Strange_Mr_Norrell)
Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell (TV series) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Strange_%26_Mr_Norrell_(TV_series))
Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell TV series - Official Trailer - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpWlBiGVDyg)
Piranesi (novel) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piranesi_(novel))
Piranesi by Susanna Clarke - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50202953-piranesi)
Intruders by Budd Hopkins - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/684503.Intruders)
Budd Hopkins - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budd_Hopkins)
Hangar 1: The UFO Files - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangar_1:_The_UFO_Files)
Hangar 1: The UFO Files - UFO Superpowers - S02E12 (Edited) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlermR2pVWw)
Mothman - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothman)
Horror In The Mojave Desert: The Disturbing Alien Abduction Of Steve And Dawn Hess - UFO Insight (https://www.ufoinsight.com/aliens/abductions/alien-abduction-of-steve-and-dawn-hess)
Mojave Incident: Inspired by a Chilling Story of Alien Abduction by Ron Felber - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25732844-mojave-incident)
Alien abduction - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_abduction)
Alien invasion - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_invasion)
The strange death of Zigmund Adamski
Todmorden - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todmorden)
Alan Godfrey - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Godfrey)
Mystery of the Yorkshire miner found dumped on a coal pile with a face of 'absolute terror' -Yorkshire Examiner Live (https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/mystery-yorkshire-miner-found-dumped-20893873)
Our Strange Skies 144: The Death of Zigmund Adamski & The Alien Abduction of Alan Godfrey (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/144-the-death-of-zigmund-adamski-the-alien/id1546735571?i=1000603866791)
VYS0011 | Weird Tales - Vayse to Face with Dr Allen H Greenfield Pt.2 (https://www.vayse.co.uk/vys0011)
George Adamski - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Adamski)
Ziggy Stardust (character) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziggy_Stardust_(character))
Weird experiences and the ‘apathy ray’ effect
Our Strange Skies 89: The BAEliens (Big Ass Eared Aliens) with Greg Newkirk (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-baeliens-big-ass-eared-aliens-with-greg-newkirk/id1546735571?i=1000551692719)
Apathy - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apathy)
VYS0037 | Elvis with a Flaming Sword - Vayse to Face with AP Strange (https://www.vayse.co.uk/vys0037)
Unmanned aerial vehicle - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unmanned_aerial_vehicle)
Lizard Men - Cryptid Wiki (https://cryptidz.fandom.com/wiki/Lizard_Men)
Not Now, Bernard - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_Now,_Bernard)
Not now, Bernard ... I'm on my iPhone: classic children's text reissued for digital era - The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/may/10/not-now-bernard-im-on-my-iphone-classic-childrens-text-reissued-for-digital-era)
How to regain a sense of childlike wonder - WellBeing (https://www.wellbeing.com.au/mind-spirit/mind/second-childhood.html)
Faculty X - Colin Wilson Online (https://colinwilsononline.com/faculty-x-2/)
Criticism of capitalism - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_capitalism)
Cryptids need better PR
Reptilian humanoid - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilian_humanoid)
David Icke - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke)
Reptilian conspiracy theory - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilian_conspiracy_theory)
The Beast of Winter Hill - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgnUHW7Az4k)
The Mothman Prophecies (film) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mothman_Prophecies_(film))
The Mothman Prophecies (2002) - Official Trailer - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt42df3AscE)
Loveland Frogman - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loveland_frog)
Squonk - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squonk)
Bigfoot - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigfoot)
Harry and the Hendersons - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_and_the_Hendersons)
Harry and the Hendersons Official Trailer #1 (1987) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DOX1Poxro4)
The Crow (1994 film) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crow_(1994_film))
The Crow (1994) Official Trailer - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5uPZ7ocsqA)
Sting (wrestler) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sting_(wrestler))
Between by Megan Whitmer - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17251354-between)
Is Bigfoot Possibly an Alien Entity? - Huff Post (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/is-bigfoot-possibly-an-alien_b_1578844)
List of cryptids - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cryptids)
Loch Ness Monster - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loch_Ness_Monster)
Champ (folklore) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champ_(folklore))
Ogopogo - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogopogo)
The Bizarre, True Story of Gef the Talking Mongoose - Atlas Obscura (https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/gef-the-talking-mongoose-true-story-nandor-fodor)
Gef (the Talking Mongoose) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gef)
The World of the Unknown: All About Ghosts by Christopher Maynard - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/49573218-all-about-ghosts)
The World of the Unknown: All About Monsters by Carey Miller - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12671301-all-about-monsters)
The Safety Dance - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Safety_Dance)
Men Without Hats - The Safety Dance (Official HD Video) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p_BvaHsgGg)
Rob’s early interest in the unexplained
Ghost Hunters (TV series) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Hunters_(TV_series))
Ghost Hunters (2004) Season 1, Episode 1 Intro - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiYMU6S1PFg)
Psychic - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychic)
Paranormal State (TV Series) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranormal_State)
Paranormal State season teaser - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxdKPZ0RwhM)
Psychic Kids (TV series) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychic_Kids)
Psychic Kids: Children of the Paranormal trailer - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELiH7mowy6Y)
10 UFO Encounters That Involve Alien Humanoid Entities - List Verse (https://listverse.com/2018/07/06/10-ufo-encounters-that-involve-alien-humanoid-entities/)
How does Rob stop himself from getting bored?
List of reported UFO sightings - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_reported_UFO_sightings)
UFO Flaps - A Context for Scientific Study (http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1670.htm)
Marius Dewilde (encounter with aliens, Nord, France, 1954) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marius_Dewilde)
The day UFOs stopped play (Florence, Italy, 1954) - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-29342407)
UFO sightings in Brazil - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_sightings_in_Brazil)
Truck drivers Gustavo González & José Ponce's violent encounter with an alien, Venezuela, 1954 -YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWClTdxBYwk)
NOTE: The interviewee here, Frank Edwards, says the event took place in 1957, but the year is
confirmed by other sources as being 1954.
1954: Cennina Landing and Encounter with Humanoids (the Rosa Lotti case) - Think About It (https://www.thinkaboutitdocs.com/1954-cennina-landing-and-encounter-with-humanoids/)
Candle snuffer - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candle_snuffer)
Football helmet - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_helmet)
The Strange Link Between Fairies, Aliens and UFOs - Anomalien (https://anomalien.com/the-strange-link-between-fairies-aliens-and-ufos/)
Former Navy pilot Ryan Graves describes a UAP/UFO object: “Black cube inside of a clear sphere” - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKB5mwHWeRk)
What is it that people are seeing?
Extraterrestrial UFO hypothesis - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterrestrial_UFO_hypothesis)
Interdimensional UFO hypothesis - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interdimensional_UFO_hypothesis)
Mac Tonnies - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Tonnies)
The Cryptoterrestrials: A Meditation on Indigenous Humanoids and the Aliens Among Us by Mac Tonnies - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10336008-the-cryptoterrerstrials)
Whitley Streiber - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitley_Strieber)
Budd Hopkins - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budd_Hopkins)
David Jacobs - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_M._Jacobs)
Alien abduction - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_abduction)
Our Strange Skies 134: The History of Alien Abductions, Part 6: Budd Hopkins, David Jacobs and the Shaping of a Phenomenon (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/134-the-history-of-alien-abductions-part-6-budd/id1546735571?i=1000591862681)
The Humanoids by Charles Bowen, Aimé Michel, and Jacques F. Vallée - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31252066-the-humanoids)
Flying Saucer Review website (http://www.fsr.org.uk/fsrmain.htm)
Aimé Michel - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aim%C3%A9_Michel)
The Truth About Flying Saucers by Aimé Michel - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13460136-the-truth-about-flying-saucers)
Flying Saucers and the Straight-Line Mystery by Aimé Michel - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1856841.Flying_Saucers_and_the_Straight_Line_Mystery)
Aimé Michel: Tribute to the Great French Ufologist - New Dawn Magazine (https://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/ufos-unexplained-phenomena/aime-michel-tribute-to-the-great-french-ufologist)
Aimé Michel: The Problem of Non-Contact - grepi.ch blog (https://grepi.ch/the-problem-of-non-contact/)
A New Take on the Gaia Theory (includes quote from David Perkins) - Past Lives Project (https://pastlivesproject.org/celestial-component-blog/a-new-take-on-the-gaia-concept)
Gaia hypothesis - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_hypothesis)
James Lovelock - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Lovelock)
Somewhere in the Skies (Ryan Sprague) website (https://somewhereintheskies.com/)
Mike Clelland’s website (https://mikeclelland.com/)
Do Thousands of Alien Contact Accounts Share Same Message? - Gaia.com (https://www.gaia.com/article/do-thousands-of-alien-abduction-accounts-add-up)
Ariel School UFO incident - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_School_UFO_incident)
Contactee - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contactee)
VYS0036 | Infinite Game - Vayse to Face with Joseph Matheny (https://www.vayse.co.uk/vys0036)
Ong’s hat website (https://ongs-hat.com/)
Whitley Strieber
Whitley Strieber - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitley_Strieber)
The Day After Tomorrow (2004 film) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_After_Tomorrow)
The Day After Tomorrow - Official Trailer HD - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku_IseK3xTc)
The Coming Global Superstorm (1999 book) by Whitley Strieber - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Coming_Global_Superstorm)
The Coming Global Superstorm by Whitley Strieber - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/612153.The_Coming_Global_Superstorm)
Communion (book) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communion_(book))
Communion: A True Story by Whitley Strieber - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/294285.Communion)
Communion by Whitley Strieber. Narrated by: Whitley Strieber - Audible (https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/Communion-Audiobook/B0B4F44H58)
Remastered - Communion - by Whitley Strieber - Read by Roddy McDowall -YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7Xg4rqqanA)
Prisoner of Infinity: Social Engineering, UFOs, and the Psychology of Fragmentation by Jasun Horsley - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/39729748-prisoner-of-infinity)
Narrative of the abduction phenomenon - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narrative_of_the_abduction_phenomenon)
Click If You Dare: 100 Favorite Horror Stories - NPR (https://www.npr.org/2018/08/16/632779706/click-if-you-dare-100-favorite-horror-stories)
Our Strange Skies 136: The History of Alien Abductions, Part 7: Whitley Strieber, Part 1 (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/136-the-history-of-alien-abductions-part-7/id1546735571?i=1000594562060)
Our Strange Skies 137: The History of Alien Abductions, Part 7: Whitley Strieber, Part 2 (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/137-the-history-of-alien-abductions-part-7/id1546735571?i=1000595999978)
Our Strange Skies 138: The History of Alien Abductions, Part 7: Whitley Strieber, Part 3 (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/138-the-history-of-alien-abductions-part-7/id1546735571?i=1000597173695)
Twin Peaks - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_Peaks)
The Leftovers (TV series) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Leftovers_(TV_series))
The Leftovers Complete Series Trailer - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3XojDp2eWA)
David Lynch - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Lynch)
The Hunger (1983 film) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunger_(1983_film))
The Hunger (Strieber novel) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunger_(Strieber_novel))
The Hunger Official Trailer #1 (1983) HD - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a6YFwC2zKA)
Wolfen (film) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfen_(film))
The Wolfen (novel) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wolfen)
Wolfen (1981) - Trailer HD 1080p - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L46RneepoxQ)
“This has something to do with what humans call Death.”
Joshua Cutchin Unveils “The Ecology of Souls” - Daily Grail (https://www.dailygrail.com/2022/07/joshua-cutchin-unveils-the-ecology-of-souls/#)
Joshua Cutchin website (https://www.joshuacutchin.com/)
Ecology of Souls: A New Mythology of Death & the Paranormal - Volume One - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/62036545-ecology-of-souls)
Ecology of Souls: A New Mythology of Death & the Paranormal - Volume Two - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/62036544-ecology-of-souls)
Life, Afterlife and a New World by Whitley Strieber - Beyond World
Joshua Cutchin Unveils “The Ecology of Souls” - Daily Grail (https://www.dailygrail.com/2022/07/joshua-cutchin-unveils-the-ecology-of-souls/#)
Joshua Cutchin website (https://www.joshuacutchin.com/)
Ecology of Souls: A New Mythology of Death & the Paranormal - Volume One - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/62036545-ecology-of-souls)
Ecology of Souls: A New Mythology of Death & the Paranormal - Volume Two - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/62036544-ecology-of-souls)
Life, Afterlife and a New World by Whitley Strieber - Beyond World (https://beyondword.com/blogs/beyond-words-blog/life-afterlife-and-a-new-world)
Love and Saucers website (https://www.loveandsaucers.com/)
Love and Saucers: Trailer - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9XoWl3ewag)
Love in an Alien Purgatory: The Life and Fantastic Art of David Huggins by Farah Yurdözü - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6936755-love-in-an-alien-purgatory)
Meet the Artist Painting the Aliens That Abducted Him - Artsy (https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-meet-artist-painting-aliens-abducted)
Mantis Aliens - Gaia (https://www.gaia.com/article/mantis-aliens)
Psychopomp - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopomp)
Patterns in experiencers and lumberjack folklore
Anomalous experiences - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anomalous_experiences)
New Psychological Research Says Paranormal Experiences Are The Norm, Not The Exception - Forbes (https://www.forbes.com/sites/traversmark/2022/06/18/new-psychological-research-says-paranormal-experiences-are-the-norm-not-the-exception/)
Tarot card reading - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarot_card_reading)
Bigfoot - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigfoot)
Fearsome critters (lumberjack folklore) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fearsome_critters)
Squonk - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squonk)
Hodag - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hodag)
Slide-Rock Bolter - Cryptid Wiki (https://cryptidz.fandom.com/wiki/Slide-Rock_Bolter)
Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers by Jacques F. Vallée (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23649767-passport-to-magonia)
Is it the same thing viewed through different lenses?
Diana Walsh Pasulka - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Walsh_Pasulka)
The new American religion of UFOs (includes conversation with Diana Pasulka) - Vox (https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/6/4/18632778/ufo-aliens-american-cosmic-diana-pasulka)
American Cosmic: UFOs, Religion, Technology by D.W. Pasulka - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/38819245-american-cosmic)
Sekret Machines: Gods - Volume 1 of Gods, Man, & War by Tom DeLonge and Peter Levenda - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32505811-sekret-machines)
High Strangeness And Understanding It - Global Bizarre (https://globalbizarre.com/high-strangeness/)
Stan Romanek - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Romanek)
Why the Bible Cannot and Should Not Be Taken Literally - Brewminate (https://brewminate.com/why-the-bible-cannot-and-should-not-be-taken-literally/)
Burning bush - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_bush)
Yelp - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yelp)
Ezekiel - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezekiel)
Living creatures (Bible) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_creatures_(Bible))
What Do The Angels From The Bible Actually Look Like? - All That’s Interesting (https://allthatsinteresting.com/biblically-accurate-angels)
Are UFOs Demonic? Preliminary Reflections - Ricochet (https://ricochet.com/962999/are-ufos-demonic-preliminary-reflections/)
Encounters: Experiences with Nonhuman Intelligences by D.W. Pasulka - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/65213521-encounters)
Which history of Satan book did Jacques Vallee hand to Dr. Pasulka? - Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/14jm8he/which_history_of_satan_book_did_jacques_vallee/)
Jacques Vallée - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vall%C3%A9e)
UFO of God: The Extraordinary True Story of Chris Bledsoe by Chris Bledsoe (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/63884226-ufo-of-god)
Peter Levenda - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Levenda)
H.P. Lovecraft - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._P._Lovecraft)
Cthulhu - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu)
Sinister Forces Series by Peter Levenda - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/series/258874-sinister-forces)
Is Jacques Vallée the Cigarette Smoking Man?
Jacques Vallée - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vall%C3%A9e)
Cigarette Smoking Man - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cigarette_Smoking_Man)
Parapsychology research at SRI - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parapsychology_research_at_SRI)
Remote viewing - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_viewing)
The Heart of the Internet: An Insider's View of the Origin & Promise of the On-line Revolution by Jacques F. Vallée - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/743633.The_Heart_of_the_Internet)
Jacques Vallee - Consciousness Software, Remote Viewing, Early Internet Origins, Parapsychology, SRI (2007 lecture) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gPf7iuzbrQ)
Venture capital - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venture_capital)
Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers by Jacques F. Vallée - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23649767-passport-to-magonia)
Project Bluebook - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Blue_Book)
Forbidden Science: Journals 1957-1969 by Jacques F. Vallée - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1928097.Forbidden_Science)
Forbidden Science 2: California Hermetica, The Journals of Jacques Vallee 1970-1979 by Jacques F. Vallée - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/37843502-forbidden-science-2)
Forbidden Science 3: On the Trail of Hidden Truths, the Journals of Jacques Vallee 1980-1989 by Jacques F. Vallée - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/36244187-forbidden-science-3)
Forbidden Science 4: The Spring Hill Chronicles, the Journals of Jacques Vallee 1990-1999 by Jacques F. Vallée - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/45857064-forbidden-science-4)
Forbidden Science 5: Pacific Heights: The Journals of Jacques Vallee 2000-2009 by Jacques F. Vallée -Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/122754139-forbidden-science-5)
UFO conspiracy theories: Disclosure - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_conspiracy_theories#Disclosure)
Richard Doty - Exopaedia (https://www.exopaedia.org/Doty%2C+Richard)
UFO crash narratives
UFO Crash Retrievals — The Story, The Coverup, & the Road to Disclosure - Medium (https://medium.com/predict/ufo-crash-retrievals-the-story-the-coverup-the-road-to-disclosure-7b3807d1944)
Roswell incident - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_incident)
Frank Scully - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Scully)
Aztec, New Mexico crashed saucer hoax - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec,_New_Mexico_crashed_saucer_hoax)
Behind the Flying Saucers by Frank Scully - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6012580-behind-the-flying-saucers?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_18)
Stanton T Friedman - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanton_T._Friedman)
Interview with Stan Friedman on UFOs & Roswell - UFO Evidence (http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc69.htm)
Jesse Marcel - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Marcel)
Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_UFO_Network)
Leonard H. Stringfield - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_H._Stringfield)
Leonard Stringfield’s Status Report at the 1978 MUFON Symposium (article) - Podcast UFO Live (https://podcastufo.com/leonard-stringfields-status-report-at-the-1978-mufon-symposium/)
Bill Moore (ufologist) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Moore_(ufologist))
The Roswell Incident by Charles Berlitz and William L. Moore - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/64045.The_Roswell_Incident)
Unsolved Mysteries - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsolved_Mysteries)
Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Stack - S2E1 - Full Episode (1989) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omt6SyDrNlk)
NOTE: The Roswell crash documentary starts at 19:30 approx.
Sightings (TV series) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sightings_(TV_series))
Sightings - S01E01 1992 - The UFO Report - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjQuU7StBZU&list=PL_ttgIA_B_7dVP1h12cQIZpszpz0fNvit)
What happened just before, during, and after the ‘80s
Uri Geller - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uri_Geller)
Uri Geller - Spoon Breaking - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oP7YDan_Zo)
Andrija Puharich - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrija_Puharich)
The Invisible College: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influence on the Human Race by Jacques F. Vallée - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23184772-the-invisible-college)
Neoliberalism - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism)
Thatcherism - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thatcherism)
Reaganomics - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaganomics)
Military-industrial complex - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military%E2%80%93industrial_complex)
Gulf War - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War)
Close Encounters of the Third Kind - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Encounters_of_the_Third_Kind)
Close Encounters of the Third Kind - Official Trailer - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSpQ3G08k48)
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.T._the_Extra-Terrestrial)
E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial - Trailer - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZNInG8kSiA)
Steven Spielberg - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Spielberg)
J. Allen Hynek - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Allen_Hynek)
The Day the Earth Stood Still - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_the_Earth_Stood_Still)
Trailer - The Day The Earth Stood Still (1951) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51JoEE_znyI)
V (1983 miniseries) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_(1983_miniseries))
1983-05-01: V The Original Miniseries - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMFA8sVmqdQ)
David Icke - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke)
Bob Lazar - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lazar)
Majestic 12 (MJ12) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majestic_12)
Roswell incident - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_incident)
Alien abductions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_abduction)
The X-Files - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_X-Files)
Mirage Men: An Adventure into Paranoia, Espionage, Psychological Warfare, and UFOs by Mark Pilkington - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9045589-mirage-men)
Mirage Men (documentary film) - Wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirage_Men)
Richard Doty - Exopaedia (https://www.exopaedia.org/Doty%2C+Richard)
Rob’s take on the disclosure thing
UFO conspiracy theories: Disclosure - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_conspiracy_theories#Disclosure)
Pentagon UFO videos - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_UFO_videos)
Mick West - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_West)
Committee for Skeptical Inquiry - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_for_Skeptical_Inquiry)
Hessdalen lights - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hessdalen_lights)
Brown mountain lights - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_Mountain_lights)
Vaccine hesitancy - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_hesitancy)
Jordan Peterson - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Peterson)
My beef with Jordan Peterson's all-cow diet - The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/19/my-beef-with-jordan-petersons-all-cow-diet)
Alprazolam (Xanax) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alprazolam)
Inside Uri Geller's £8m mansion he's selling to move into 'tiny' flat furnished with Ikea - Mirror (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/inside-uri-gellers-8m-mansion-29552263)
Stardust Ranch: The Incredible True Story by John Edmonds - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50236035-stardust-ranch)
Katana - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katana)
The Saucer Life website (https://saucerlife.com/)
AlienCon 2023 is a Wrap! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCYNbW2F5Vs)
Skinwalker Ranch - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinwalker_Ranch)
Rob’s Recommendations
Dimensions: A Casebook of Alien Contact by Jacques F. Vallée - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/406341.Dimensions)
Confrontations: A Scientist's Search for Alien Contact by Jacques F. Vallée - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/406343.Confrontations)
Revelations: Alien Contact and Human Deception by Jacques F. Vallée - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1100402.Revelations)
Witness of Another World (2019) | Official English Trailer HD (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAvH8I7o8Ek)
Think Anomalous YT channel (https://www.youtube.com/@ThinkAnomalous)
Think Anomalous website (https://www.thinkanomalous.com/)
The Field Guide to Extraterrestrials by Patrick Huyghe - Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1583880.The_Field_Guide_to_Extraterrestrials)
Buckley’s closing question
Jacques Vallée - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vall%C3%A9e)
Capitalism - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism)
Cthulhu - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu)
Cigarette Smoking Man - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cigarette_Smoking_Man)
Satan - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satan)
Industrial Revolution - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Revolution)
Adam Smith - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Smith)
Adolf Hitler - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler)
Vayse online
Vayse website (https://www.vayse.co.uk/)
Vayse on Twitter (https://twitter.com/vayseesyav)
Vayse on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/vayseesyav/)
Music From Vayse: Volume 1 by Polypores - Bandcamp (https://vayse.bandcamp.com/album/music-from-vayse-volume-1)
Music From Vayse: Volume 2 by Polypores - Bandcamp (https://vayse.bandcamp.com/album/music-from-vayse-volume-2)
Vayse on Ko-Fi (https://ko-fi.com/vayse)
Vayse email: vayseinfo@gmail.com Special Guest: Rob Kristoffersen.