WJPZ at 50

Every year, the WJPZ Alumni Association, via the Berrell Award, sends two students to an industry event.  In 2023, GM Grace Denton and former sports director Joe Puccio went to Vegas for the National Association of Broadcasters (NAB) Show.  We sat down with them to hear about the experience.

We've met Grace in her previous episode with PD Maddie Doolittle.  So first we meet Joe and get his background.  And we hear about their summer 2023 positions- Grace at Taylor Swift's Republic Records (thanks Adam Eisenberg) and Joe at the Cape Cod Baseball League.

After coincidentally being on the same flight at Stephen "Tex" Kurtz, Grace and Joe hit the ground in Vegas running, checking out as much tech as possible from brands they knew, and some they didn't.   They described themselves as "kids in a candy store" with Grace zeroing in on overall station tech and Joe focused on the sports side.  But the experience was about so much more than tech.

In true Z89 networking fashion, Joe's Cape Cod League boss, WJPZ alum Dan Duva is the radio voice of the Las Vegas Golden Knights.  He took Grace and Joe out for a night on the town.   And while Joe wasn't yet 21, Grace had just had her birthday, which led to a wondeful wine selection.

You'll hear some great Vegas stories from Grace and Joe - from getting headshots, to receiving an invite to speak to a class in Atlanta, to eating gelato with some Citrus TV classmates who were in town for a different conference.

Overall, today's guests share what an amazing opportunity this was.  This year, GM Patrick Chambers and PD Ilana Epstein will be heading to Morning Show Boot Camp in San Diego!

The WJPZ at 50 Podcast Series is produced by Jon Gay, Class of 2002, and his podcast production agency, JAG in Detroit Podcasts.

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If you don't know Adam and Kelly (Foster) Shapiro's backstory, you might assume it's yet another romance started in the halls of WJPZ.   Their story, as you'll hear here, is a much different road than than other Z89 couples.

Both members of the Class of 1992, they were certainly friendly in school, and had mutual friends, but didn't spend a ton of time together outside the station.   Kelly joined the promotions department, eventually working her way up to legal director.   Adam was a sports guy who became assistant sports director and a talk show host.

We've referenced the late SUNY-Oswego professor John Oldfield on the podcast before, but Kelly really explains what a thorn in WJPZ's side this man was.   He was always trying to have a "gotcha" moment in the middle of Z89 renewing its FCC license.  This adversary, and the myriad of folks who helped the station through license renewal, would end up teaching Kelly valuable career and life lessons before graduation.   In fact, history would repeat itself, in a way.  Nearly a decade later, when Kelly was President of the Alumni Association, she would have a hand in getting the station through its Receievership Era, as outlined by Harry and Dena in their episode.

In this podcast, you'll hear about the remarkable careers of this Z89 power couple - with Adam producing newscasts from Syracuse to Vegas to Miami to New York.   Kelly started in radio but found her home on the agency side, working for many different firms, before ultimately being recruited to work for Rolex, where she's been since 2014.

But for as successful as Adam and Kelly have been, you'll hear more today about the WJPZ family then their long list of accomplishments.   This includes the now-Shapiros reconnecting at the 2000 Banquet, and developing a deep and meaningful friendship that eventually turned into more - even if there were some hilarious speed bumps along the way, including a great airplane story with a WJPZ connection.

One of the benefits of marrying someone you went to school with is that their college friends are your college friends, and Adam and Kelly share that unique perspective.

John Oldfield Obituary: https://news.syr.edu/blog/2009/07/31/college-mourns-passing-of-professor-emeritus-john-oldfield/

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While many of us flipped burgers or bagged groceries in high school, Dave Roberts was reading the news on an AM station and (literally) herding cats as a 15 year old.   When he toured Syracuse and saw the WJPZ prize van, and he met Hal Rood, Jim Remeny and more. He knew it was where he had to be.

After starting on overnights, Dave quickly climbed the ranks to news director and eventually VP of Business.  That may sound like a strange trajectory, but Dave's always loved news (and meterology).  And when the station was in dire financial straits, he knew he either had to write a check, or go collect checks.    The first of course was not an option.

You'll hear about some WJPZ firsts in today's episode.  Dave tells us how our non-commercial station managed to get beer money on the air, through a lucrative (and creative) campaign with Pabst Blue Ribbon.   He also signed a sponsorship with the University's study abroad program, closing the deal in an unusual way.   And at a time where NOBODY had voicemail, he helped set up the "Z89 line" - with 5 different mailboxes for contest information and more.

The real defining moment of Dave's time in Syracuse,  however, was the bombing of Pan Am 103 in 1988.  We chat at length about the emotion of those weeks and months, as well as the crucial role WJPZ played as an information resource for those who just couldn't wait for the evening news or the next day's newspaper.  Everyone stepped up, comforted each other, and navigated the best they could.

By the time Dave graduated in 1992, Z89 had become a household name in the industry - his experience there landed him major market interviews, but he followed his passsion for meterology - and went to Ottumwa, Iowa.  Then, there were stops in Missouri, Alabama, Fort Myers, Cincinnati, and Mississippi.  Today's guest really fell in love with Jackson, Mississippi (before Mark Ronson and Bruno Mars did), and has made this market home.  And yes, he got all his certifications along the way. 

Throughout today's episode, you'll hear Dave talk about his love of Z89 and our family.  And you'll also hear a great story about being trapped in Providence with Brian Lapis during a blizzard - and what happened next.   And even a little bit about what WJPZ taught him about being a realtor.

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Kevin Tippy Martinez, '88, is the Senior Vice President of Marketing Communications for the Seattle Mariners. It's no surprise that this New Jersey native, with passions for baseball and broadcasting, found himself transferring in to Syracuse.

Once he got to SU, Martinez was actively involved with both Z89 and WAER, where he honed his skills in sports broadcasting and DJing. Not many students worked for both stations at that time, but this chief announcer made it work. He simply couldn't walk away from the sports opportunities at WAER or the incredible camaraderie at Z89.  In fact, you'll love the story he tells about Carl Weinstein walking in to his shift to flip the format and imaging.

After graduation, Kevin went to the ABC Television Network in New York City, working in affiliate relations and marketing, and gradually made his way into ABC Sports. Then, Emmis Communications' Jeff Smuylan bought the Seattle Mariners.  Despite being very happy near home and at ABC, the chance to work in Major League Baseball was too good to pass up.

The new marketing team took many radio ideas (including those learned at WJPZ) to do what was then some pretty innovative entertainment at Mariners' games.  Custom walk-up music for hitters?  It started here.    And outside a brief stint with the Boston Celtics, Kevin's been with the M's for over 30 years.

Throughout the podcast, Martinez reflects on the relationships and friendships he formed during his time at WJPZ and in his professional life. These connections have been enduring and impactful. And we'd  be remiss not to ask his opinions on the evolution of baseball, the importance of adapting to changing fan preferences, and the strategies employed by the Mariners to engage with their audience.

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Mike Roberts, Class of 1979, is one of the people who helped kept WJPZ alive in the early days.  With the station's founders having graduated, Mike empowerd a team to run radio station, passing its educational lessons forward to the next generation of broadcasters.

Arriving on campus in 1975, he quickly found WJPZ 1200 AM in the Spectrum Records building and told Bill Bleyle that he wanted to be involved. In addition to his airshift, he learned how to do everything - down to changing the needles on the turntables.   In the early days, the industry was noticing the station more than the locals. But soon, they had staffers working professionally in the market (WAER did not).  Mike shares some stories of alumni who went on to great success.

As for Mike, he took the tight formatics he learned at WJPZ and went on to work in Syracuse himself, at WNDR (briefly) and WHEN.  Eventually he went to work for Reagan Henry, where he was on to Cincinnati, and eventually Atlanta.

After turning around some small AM stations, Mike went to the top dog in a major market - becoming morning show host at the legendary urban V103 in Atlanta.  They were one of the first urban stations to do a talk-centered morning show, and the first urban station to bill $1 million - monthly.

Mike shares a story about the power of radio - one of the proudest moments of his career.  He was at V103 from 1986-1988. During the Rodney King uprising in 1994, V went to an all news format, bringing on community leaders and stressing the need for Atlanta to stay peaceful.  They were later recognized by local government for keeping Atlanta from exploding.  Not coincidentally, that's when V103 had its highest ratings ever.

Mike soon got the ownership bug, and as the hip hop scene was exploding in the late 90's, today's guest was approaching 40 years old.   V103 was also getting competiton on both ends of their demo.   He bought several stations in nearby Macon, Georgia, as he wound down his time in Atlanta.   Today, he owns one, WQMJ, Magic 100.  It's an R&B oldies station that does its own newscasts, several times daily, to superserve its local audience.

Mike takes us through his typical work week, and reflects on the current state of radio, and its need to stay local to stay relevant.   And we conclude with the story of a classic prank pulled on him while live on the air at WJPZ.

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Today we interview Marc Bokoff,  from the class of 1987. A management major, Marc came to the station as business manager under then-GM Larry Barron, before becoming general manager himself.  He took over the station in the midst of the station changing from a block format to the much more tighly programmed CHR format it still has today.

As GM, Marc and the staff faced backlash for this change, leading accusations of racial bias and subsequent protests. We get his perspective (through his 37-year-old notes) of having to shut the station down for the evening, the negotiations, personal threats he received, and the eventual resolution to the protest.  Following the event, Marc stepped down as General Manager, partly due to concerns over his own personal health at the time.

Marc reflects on how these experiences at WJPZ profoundly impacted his professional life. Despite majoring in general studies in the business school, he gained invaluable hands-on experience in business management through his work at the radio station. This experience became more educational and instrumental than his formal business studies, equipping him with skills in advertising, marketing, budgeting, and negotiation.

After graduation, Marc briefly joined his family's supermarket business before venturing into the travel industry, where he has been for over 35 years. He discusses the various adaptations and changes he had to make in his business, especially with the rise of internet travel services and the impact of world events like COVID-19 and geopolitical conflicts. He emphasizes the importance of adaptability and resilience, drawing parallels between the challenges he faced in college and those in his professional life.

Despite some trying moments, Marc is grateful for the skills and experiences gained at WJPZ, which have significantly shaped his career and personal growth. He highlights the station's role as an educational incubator and its impact on students beyond those interested in broadcasting careers. 

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Scott Greene, '93, grew up just outside Boston wanting to be a newspaper reporter.  He did it in high school and came to Syracuse wanting to pursue that career.   But WJPZ quickly drew him in, and he says the only columns he wrote for the Daily Orange ended up being Wrestlemania previews.

Scott came to the station as the classes of 90 and 91 were taking the reigns.  His group quickly got their footing, and passed the torch to '94 and '95.   And yes, Scott names names from all of these groups.

While a student, Scott worked at KIX FM, before it became B104.7.   Not interested in country, he went over to 95X to become the promotions director right around graduation.

After a few years there, Scott headed home to Boston, where he worked in marketing, with partners like Rolling Stone magazine and more.  Another reinvention, he got his masters' degree and began teaching middle school.  He continued in that field after following his wife home to western Massachusetts.   After he tired of disciplining middle school students (can you blame him?) he went back to his first love -newspaper.  He's now the sales manager of Reminder Publishing, which puts out several local, weekly newspapers in the area.   We spend some time talking about the newspaper business, and where he sees it thriving at the local level through strategic partnerships.

Scott leaves us with two classic Z89 stories.  One involves Bruce Springsteen tickets - and the other involves all the commercial overnight jocks in town playing the same record at the same time.   He explains, and the story ends at a very familiar place.

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Links!

All of Marty's current work, including podcasts: https://weeklyhumorist.com/

Marty's archive of Z Morning Zoo bits, including the full Rick Wright tour of the Ostrom House: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ascjv18c57ajw/Z_Morning_Zoo_audio

Marty D was best known at WJPZ for hosting the Z Morning Zoo, alongside Peterman and Emily Zizza (now Almas).  But you'll learn much more about him in today's episode.  You'll hear how he was a radio nerd like most of us, growing up listening to Baltimore and DC morning shows.

An illustrator and artist by trade, Marty looked at art schools but decided on going to a more general school with an art program.  That brought him to Syracuse, and it was a sign on a dorm-mate's door that said "listen to me on the radio" that led him to Z89.  Staring on the 4-6 stuff, he found himself sticking around to hang out with Spike and Nick B  - these were college students doing morning radio!

Marty's creative chops were best suited for morning radio -as he found out in other dayparts, and eventually he was offered the show.   Having learned from Baltimore radio, and having two cohosts who had interned in Boston radio, they quickly assembled the archetypal morning show - with the requisite "dick, dear, and dork."

We've spoken of the Ostrom house before on this podcast - Marty loved doing the show there his senior year.  It was a house, and he quickly set up a coffee maker and made himself at home.   And the myriad of equipment issues taught him how to overcome almost any obstacle - a skill set he's used in the time since graduation.    Imagine figuring out how to get a show on the air, but you walk into the studio and there's no microphone.   They figured it out.

One of the strengths of the show was their community interaction - doing live broadcasts everywhere they could, doing benchmark contest and games, and more.    We asked Marty if he ever thought about doing it professionally.  His answer may surprise you.

As for what he did do professionally, Marty takes us through his 20+ year career in New York, working for Mad Magazine, David Letterman and National Lampoon.   Then, he leveraged his skills, experience, and network to start his own company - Humorist Media - doing everything from live events, to podcasts, and now even book publishing.

Marty is currently serving on the WJPZ Alumni Association Board, in addition to being the official illustrator of the Alumni Association and this podcast. 

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John sent some great 1990's pics from the station. You can view them here: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/zxxnn6pconq7p45fvidd1/h?rlkey=ny9i0u512pve0tf915i58xtl3&dl=0

John Beck, Class of 1995, has gone on to a prolific writing career in Hollywood, having worked on everything from The Hughleys to Fuller House, to Liv and Maddie, and more.   A TV guy through and through, it was actually Dave Gorab who approached him, over at then-UUTV, to come do the Crazy Morning Crew at Z89.

John is very honest at the start of the show, sharing his hesitation for coming on the podcast.  Because his path was non-traditional, not having toiled in overnights, etc, he wondered if he was "worthy," but BB Good talked him into it, and we are so glad she did.

Soon, John, Julian Keel, and their other teammates were pulilng serious ratings, finishing in Top 10 in the Syracuse market.  We talk about some great bits that made the air - from Professor McPhibious and Love Pumping Horace - to some bits that...well, were not approved for the WJPZ airwaves.

John also tells the story of the "We Own a Giant Trampoline Club" - and how they collected enough money to buy one from Sam's Club and granted all members free access to the trampoline in their yard - no matter the hour or their level of sobriety. And if you don't know how the trampoline met its demise, it's worth hearing.  And yes, it's another WJPZ lesson applied to the "real world."

We turn to John's Hollywood career - starting off fetching lunch for Corey and Topanga on Boy Meets World, to eventually landing in the writers' room with his fellow SU-alum writing partner Ron Hart.  And his career is littered with alumni stories along the way - from meeting BB Good's family to spotting Dion and Kafele at a taping of The Hughleys - to a very cool connection with Kid Michael Rock, and his daughter.

John also explains the recent Hollywood strikes - in layman's terms.   A lot has to do with codifying some of Hollywood's "unwritten rules" and making sure the playing field is fair for all with the advent of large streamers such as Netflix, Hulu, Disney and more.

In addition to some classic Rick Wright stories, we conclude with John's advice for writers coming up in 2024.  Yes, it's about who you know and being in the "right place at the right time," but there's so much more to it than that.   Writers write.  Always be writing.   And spend equal time working on your job and your career .  John explains this in the podcast.

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As the son of a radio station owner, Tony Renda grew up in broadcasting.  His dad, Tony Renda Sr, started with an AM station in East McKeesport, Pennsylvania, before growing the company to many station in several markets.

Growing up near Pitt, Tony Jr. new about the Big East, and of course Syracuse. His dad was an alum.  But he didn't go straight from high school to Central New York; he didn't have the grades.   So he spent a year at Ohio University before transferring.

Once in the 315, Tony's fraternity brother, Scott Taylor, was VP of Business at the station, and he brought Tony over.  Like many of us, Tony was in awe from the moment he walked in - from the jocks, to the sports and news guys, to even the bumper stickers on the wall. He knew he had to be there.

He quickly became development director, then VP of Business, which provided the opportunity to stay in Syracuse for the summer of 1993, when the station gave away a Geo Tracker.  You've probably heard that story before, but today, you'll hear Tony tell the story of walking into Billy Fuccillo's office and securing the car.

After graduation, he could have gone straight into the family business, but Tony first wanted some real life experience. He followed Scotty T to Katz Media in New York, where he honed his skills.   Eventually he did come to Renda Broadcasting, starting in Jacksonville, and having worked in Pittsburgh and now Fort Myers-Naples, Florida.

In today's episode, you'll also hear what Tony looks for when he interviews a job candidate. It's an important lesson.

To learn more about Renda Broadcasting and career opportunities, visit https://rendabroadcasting.com/

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Today's guests are three ladies, three years apart, who have formed an enduring frienship via WJPZ that has lasted over 20 years.

Tracey (Chilandese) Turner got to the station when Harry and Dena were running a skeleton crew, having just shepherded the station through it's second format change (back to Z89) in just a few years.   Trace joined the station as a sophomore, just as Matt DelSignore was taking over for Harry as GM and PD.  Harry provided guidance for promotions, and let his dynamic duo take over.

Sarah (Dumont) Fox had no desire to be on the air, but this Plattsburgh native soon found a love for Public Relations.  When Dena left, Sarah volunteered to take on that role, coordinating everything from alumni relationships to Banquets.

As these two ascended to station leadership, Lisa entered as a freshman.  This die-hard sports fan started doing on-air work and made fast friends off-air with Tracey and Sarah.  It was a friendship that transcended the walls of the station.

Today's guests credit their WJPZ lessons as great prepration for their careers.  Tracey has worked in music since graduation.  Sarah's been in healthcare PR, and Lisa went from NBC page to talent booker to Derek Jeter's outlet, The Players' Tribune.

In this episode, you'll hear about "Shake Your Bon Bon For Ricky Martin," a treacherous trip with a car full of balloons, and some heated moments in the Red Sox-Yankees rivalry.  (Poor Lisa had to share a wall with Jag one year).

But you'll also hear about enduring friendships, including Matt DelSignore joining Sarah for moral support on a week-long job interview trip to New York City before graduation.  Where did they sleep?  Tracey's couch and loveseat.

Throughout today's podcast, you'll hear about the inclusive culture of Z89 (as opposed to some more traditional classrooms).  The knowledge passed down over these 3 years are right in line with the last 50.

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"Kid" Michael Rock grew up taping Casey Kasem and trying to talk up the songs himself.  So it's not surprising that he applied to Syracuse, and only Syracuse.  And he set out to find WJPZ before his parents had finished unpacking him into Flint Hall.  Who was the first person he met at the station? BB Good.

Kid got his FCC license and was soon doing every airshift, including mornings with Steve Donovan (then "Abe Froman").   Ironically, they'd end up competing against each other years later.

Rock retells the WJPZ at 50 stories of Spunky the Midget Wrestler and getting drunk on the air with a police officer from his perspective.  You'll also hear about his brilliant move to take his girlfriend to Phantom of the Opera in Toronto - and what he did to blow the weekend.

Michael says as much as he learned about radio at WJPZ,  he learned even more about management.   They are lessons that have served him well in his current role as director of content for Fun 107, a station he's been at for decades.

Many jocks don't want to spend time on the "internet" aspects of their show, but Kid tells us why it's so important to focus on more than what's just coming out of the FM speakers at that exact moment.

For someone who's worked in local radio for so long, how does he see the industry surviving?  By staying local.  Rock elaborates on that and how he does it.

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Today's guest is play-by-play man David Resnick, a 2010 WJPZ alum.  He reached out to us because he wanted to make sure we recognized the All Star sports department he worked with at Z89 - many who have gone on to great success in the sports industry, as you'll hear.

As David says, the "Cold War" between WJPZ and WAER had thawed by the time he got on campus, and he got involved in everything he could - working simultaneously at both radio stations AND Citrus TV. He emphasizes that being willing to try different roles and work for multiple outlets allowed him to gain a well-rounded skillset and learn from a variety of mentors.

David also highlights the unique camaraderie and bonding that occurs among sports broadcasters, especially during road trips to cover games. While many of us spent hours and hours together inside and out of the station, there's nothing quite like the bonding that happens on those sports road trips. These experiences helped him build lasting friendships and connections within the industry.  You'll also hear how then-women's Coach Q made sure to give WJPZ as much content and time as possible.

Since graduation, David has been a freelance play-by-play broadcaster, based out of New York City. You'll find out why he refers to teams and networks as "clients," as he discusses the challenges and rewards of freelancing, including the need to constantly network and seek out new opportunities. He also shares some valuable advice for aspiring sports broadcasters, emphasizing the importance of building a strong reputation, being adaptable, and considering alternative roles within the sports media landscape.  With the advent of streaming, there are more video play-by-play opportunities than ever!

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Hey, it’s Jag.  Again, thank you so much for your support of the WJPZ at 50 podcast, which as of today, January 23, 2024, now has almost 13,000 downloads!

We’re starting to wind down the series, but wanted to make sure you had a chance to hear from all of the incredible people we’ve talked to, BEFORE we all get together in Syracuse.  So from now until we run out of episodes, probably the middle of February, we’ll go back to our original release schedule of every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.    Also, a quick thank you to Matt Friedman, who of course handles the PR for the show by posting each episode on Facebook.

Once again, for as many hours as I’ve put IN to this effort, I’ve gotten so much more OUT of it.  I’ve learned more about some of my favorite people in the world, and met so many others.   I hope you have too.

I encourage you to listen to the episodes of our 2024 Hall of Fame Inductee Class – Kelly Sutton, Mina Llona, and Alex Silverman, if you haven’t yet.  I hope you’ll be there in Syracuse to see them get their hideously awesome orange jackets in March.  Not to mention, if you haven’t heard, it’s our last year to stay at the Sheraton before it’s converted to dorms.    You can buy your Banquet tickets at the link below in our show notes.  Radio, baby!

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We can't think of a better guest for our 100th episode than Mr. Jim Gallagher.  He is believed to have spent more hours "in the chair" doing morning drive than anyone in WJPZ history. Today you'll learn how lessons learned in Syracuse served him well in a truly remarkable career.  And we open the episode with a classic station story - a live broadcast from the Denny's on Erie Boulevard when he tried to eat 89 pancakes.

Following his time at WJPZ, Jim did radio in Maine and Georgia.  In Georgia, he made a mistake on the air that cost him his job and changed his perspective on doing a morning show.  Eventually he decided to pursue one of his other passions - movie trailers and marketing.

Jim worked his way up the ladder, becoming President of Marketing for Disney and Pixar, reporting to Bob Iger.  He was the one deciding where to spend ad money to put "butts in seats" for movies like Up. Wall-E, and Ratatouille.

Like in all media, regimes change, and people get "the zig." In fact, Jim says he was fired from 3 of the 6 top movie marketing jobs in the world, having also spent time at Dreamworks, Warner Brothers, and as a consultant.   We spend some time talking about movies he worked on, and how the marketing world changed with the advent of the Internet.

At 50, Jim knew marketing was a younger man's game, and he had squirreled away every time he could during his career.  This allowed him to start a "retirement" hobby.  Given that he doesn't golf, he re-invented himself and took up stand-up comedy.  He's been performing all over the country, honing his craft.

Comedy is a tricky thing - we close today's episode with a poignant conversation about "cancel culture" and comedians who claim they can't tell the jokes they want to tell.   From Jim's perspective, if you generate more negative feelings in your audience than positive, than you should probably be doing something else.

For tour dates and more on Jim, visit his website: https://www.comedybyjimgallagher.com/

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Jen Nycz-Conner felt like she applied to every college in the Big East (RIP) before falling in love with the communications program at Syracuse.  Once on campus, she found a fellow freshman with a map.  She and Steve Donovan went to the radio station, met B.B. Good, and the rest is history.

Living above the station in Watson as a sophomore, Jen got more involved with the station, and soon became VP of Operations as she and her 1995 classmates ran WJPZ.  Actually, she wasn't technically Class of 1995 - as she explains.

She also talks about many of the friendships she's formed through the alumni association, with WJPZ family members she didn't go to school with.

During school, she secured internships with Jim Henson productions and HBO Sports, the latter of which led to work after graduation.   And this included some entry level "pay your dues" jobs.

Soon, her husband Chris was in DC, and Jen was in New York.  Something had to give, and she found a job working with the ProServ agency in Arlington, Virigina.

Through mergers, acquisitions, and a changing economy, Jen's next stop was Women in Film and Video in DC.  This nonprofit work connected her with the Washington Business Journal, where she'd work for nearly a decade and a half, including time on air on legendary DC Radio station WTOP.

After the job at Washington Business Journal, Jen had a few different career paths in mind.   When her current job at Hilton came up, it checked all of her boxes.

Through her one-of-a-kind career, Jen talks throughout today's epsiode about the lessons learned at WJPZ, and how they've served her well.

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Mike "T-Bone" Tierney may have known more classes in JPZ's history than anyone - having worked at Z89 as a high schooler, undergrad, and grad student.  So it's no surprise many of his contemporaries consider him one of WJPZ's greatest program directors.

T-Bone went to Nottingham High School, and saw a recruitment flyer for summer staffers while visiting Bird Library.  He walked in that day, was immediately training, and worked his way up from overnights to the Top 8 at 9 that summer.

You'd think this would have led him immediately to SU, but he actually spend at summer at Fordham University downstate.  But pull of the atmosphere and people at WJPZ brought him back to the 315.  And he's quick to point out how the lessons he learned served him well in his illustrious career.

At the station, he worked with Carl Weinstein, Scott Meach, Gigi Katz, Hot Shot Scotty Bergstein, E Double R, and so many others.  These were truly the "flamethrower" days of the late 80's and early 90's - with Janet, Michael, U2, LL Cool J, INXS, and more.  And while 93Q was making headlines for not playing George Michael's "I Want Your Sex" and LL Cool J's "I Need Love" - Z89 was banging out the hits.   In fact, T-Bone has a great story about how WNTQ called the University to complain about Z89 kicking their asses - and a hilarious conversation that followed with Dr. Rick Wright.

After receiving his Masters, Mike followed Carl and Kevin "Tippy" Martinez to Seattle, where he lived on their couches before landing gigs at KPLZ, then the legendary KUBE.  There, he'd meet one of his great mentors, Jerry Clifton.  T-Bone, the 25-year-old wunderkind PD, learned how to balance his programming chops with people skills.   Despite being a ratings leader. his station was too buttoned up, and he needed to rekindle some of the magic he was part of at WJPZ.

Following his run in Seattle radio, Mike went to VH1, where he learned the limitations of television.  He also had a stop at Epic Records, and at one point tour managed for a band.

Later, his former intern, Julie Pilat, recruited him to Beats One, before it merged with Apple Music.  An online music platform in its infancy, it had hired a bunch of influencers to be air talent.  Through airchecking, T-Bone found out who had the skills, and who was not interested in learning the formatics.

Mike's now been at Amazon Music for 4 years, the longest tenure he's had anywhere since Syracuse.  He loves the gig because of the ability to change jobs under the umbrella.  And rather than a program director, he considers himself an "off air music director" - yes, they still exist in the digital space, if extinct from radio.

We spend some time talking about the new life cycle of music - breaking at streaming then going to radio.  And how to reach Gen Z - a generation that did not grow up listening to the radio.  Their behavior as music consumers must be catered to.   And how does radio need to reinvent itself? Artificial Intelligence (AI) and Large Language Models (LLM's) are changing every industry; music and radio are no exception.

We wrap with a hilariously off-color story about T-Bone handing the controls over to E Double R for Zappy Hour one Friday afternoon.

The Book T-Bone Referenced: Range by David Epstein: https://www.amazon.com/Range-Generalists-Triumph-Specialized-World/dp/0735214506

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It's no surprise that Ethan Charlip ended up at Syracuse University.   His New Jersey high school classmates Jacob Belotti and Shruti Marathe were already there when he arrived on campus.   In fact, Shruti told Ethan he'd be at the WJPZ spring recruitment meeting and tasked Jacob with making sure of it.

Like so many of us, Ethan immediately found his tribe at the station, quickly earning a reputation for hanging out there more than even the exec staff.   And how badly did he want to join exec?  He applied for every position.  You'll hear that hilarious story.

Ethan did become production director, getting the station involved in podcasting and continuing the teaching mission of WJPZ - agreeing to do a free 2 hour Adobe Audition training for anyone who would join his staff.    During a semester abroad, he ran for General Manager - interviewing over Zoom (before it was cool) from an airbnb in Prague.   He stayed up until 6:00am there awaiting the results.  He won.

Like every GM before him, Ethan wasn't sure he was ready for the position, especially as he learned to navigate office politics with friends and more.   But his contributions earned him the 2020 Rick Wright Lock Award - right before the world shut down.

Ethan handed the GM reigns over to Melody Emm, and COVID-19 hit.   The Class of 2020 never returned to campus after spring break.   Ethan's class did not have a senior week, a graduation (save for a "make up" ceremony in 2021), or last Z89 show.  It was only thanks to Melody sneaking him in to the station when he returned to pack up his apartment that he got a brief final show.

Naturally, it wasn't easy for the Class of 2020 to find jobs - Ethan found himself doing a desk job at Westwood One, before eventually moving to the world of PR - helping startups get noticed.  And you won't be surprised to hear how many WJPZ lessons he employs to this day.

And he still has a Watson theater chair that a classmate eviscerated.

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(Note link to additional content at the end of our show notes.)

If we were to pick one alumnus who best represented the warm, welcoming atmosphere of WJPZ, it would probably be Sharon Goodman Michaels, aka "B.B. Good" from the Class of 1993.  Several Z89'ers have come on this podcast to talk about how she welcomed them to the station, and we are thrilled to welcome her to this podcast.

Like many of us, this Massachusetts native grew up loving radio - and she tells the story of how she recruited Kiss 108 DJ's to do her high school dance in Quincy. 

BB went to Syracuse for its communications reputation.  She got there early as part of the marching band, and quickly found WJPZ and then-leaders like Hal Rood, Scott Meach, and Brian Lapis.

At her happy place, BB made friend with classmates Beth (Russell) Gorab, Bette Kestin, Jeanne Schad, Tina (Mussolino) Perkins, Melanie Kushnir, and more.

How "Good" was Sharon as an undergrad?  A commercial station in Utica offered her nights, and held the job for her until she could graduate Syracuse.  From Rock 107 she went to Fly 92 in Albany, Kiss 95.7 Hartford, and JAMN 94.5 Boston.  There, while riding the T, she saw a blind box ad for what would turn out to be the midday slot on Radio Disney, based in Dallas.  A year later, they moved her show to then-MGM Studios at Disney World in Orlando.  That's right.  She was working in radio, at Disney World, every day.  She tells amazing stories of listener interactions, letters, and more.  Also, she interviewed an up and coming *NSYNC and Britney Spears.

After five years in Orlando, BB's show was moved back to Dallas.  After a time, she was let go, and decided to stay home with her children.  She became very active in the Jewish community in Dallas and still is.

BB has maintained her Z89 connections throughout her adult life, often crossing paths with radio folk when they came to Disney, and even doing a cameo on the sitcom According to Jim thanks to her classmate John Beck. 

We wrap with BB talking about how much she enjoyed returning to Banquet in 2023, and the question of whether or not the Jonas Brothers did a song...about her.

Note: This interview was recorded in May.  BB asked if she could speak about the current situation in Israel and have it included in the podcast.  You can hear that conversation, recorded December 22nd, at this link: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/rkh58zh2sg3lrhid56wvy/WJPZ-at-50-BB-Good-Insert.mp3?rlkey=p7o0ndhyszj1gaj6guu83gbwl&dl=0

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Kelly Sutton, '92, is the first female general manager in the history of WJPZ.  And, like many of us, the station launched her into a prolific media career.

This Buffalo native went to Syracuse, in part, because of the opportunity to double major in both Newhouse and business.  And when a local radio owner back home promised a summer job, she knew she needed experience.  By the spring, she found Z89, and folks like Scott Meach, Hal Rood, Dave Gorab, Dave Roberts, Dave Morgan, and more. 

Despite doing an overnight shift, she knew she wanted to work off-air, and she worked her way up to promotions director, and also doing sales (there was a commission structure in place at the time).  Kelly was encouraged to run for General Manager, which she did, and won.  While she didn't see it as a big deal at the time, she's certainly proud of the legacy of strong female leaders at the station since.

After Syracuse, Kelly returned home to Buffalo where she worked in various sales and management roles.  Soon, she got her "major market" opportunity to head east to Boston.   She relied on the advice of some lifelong JPZ friends to make the move, and the first person she met at CBS Boston also had JPZ roots.  The conversation starter of "where did you go to school" was the beginning of a lifelong friendship with Julie Bruno.

After a succesful run at Boston's rock station WBCN, she was recruited to head over to then-Entercom, and sports station WEEI.  We spend some time on what the sales side of sports radio looks like.   Do wins and losses matter?  What happens when a personality crosses the line?  Or an advertiser THINKS they did, but got bad information?

The radio industry is tough, and Kelly prefers to be in the sales side over the management side - through COVID, corporate mergers. and more.  (The Entercom/CBS merger in Boston was so complicated, the DOJ took Kelly's laptop at one point!)  We talk about what it takes to be successful today in radio, from both an an on and off-air perspective.

We close the conversation by getting very personal.  Kelly has a special needs son, Devin.  When she moved to Boston she was a single Mom, and certainly had a lot on her plate.  That first encounter with Julie Bruno resulted in a piece of advice from Julie that Kelly says changed her life.   It's one of our favoirite JPZ'er-helping-JPZ'er stories yet. You'll hear about that today, as well as the inspirational young man Devin is, as well as Kelly's other son, Brady.

The WJPZ at 50 Podcast Series is produced by Jon Gay, Class of 2002, and his podcast production agency, JAG in Detroit Podcasts.

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