anchored

Men who are anchored do not drift into the need for the approval of other men. A daily devotional in the book of Galatians by Vince Miller.

Check out April Vokey and her work:⁣

• Anchored Outdoors⁣
• Anchored Podcast⁣
• Into The Backing Podcast⁣
• Instagram: @aprilvokey

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Other topics discussed:⁣

• Washington Boat Fishing Ban⁣

Save What You Love with Mark Titus:⁣
Produced: Tyler White⁣
Edited: Patrick Troll⁣
Music: Whiskey Class⁣
Instagram: @savewhatyoulovepodcast
Website: savewhatyoulove.evaswild.com
Support wild salmon at evaswild.com
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Episode Transcript:⁣
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Mark Titus  0:00  
Welcome to Save What You Love. I'm Mark Titus. Today we get to hang out with April Vokey. April is an entrepreneur, she's a world class fly fishing guide, and she's created a community of outdoor enthusiasts like me, nd a lot of you, called Anchored Outdoors. And we're gonna dive into it with April today talking about our shared love of wild salmon, our desire to protect them, love and loss, and really how we dig in to protect the things we love most. Hope you enjoy the show. And if you want to follow us, we have a brand new Instagram feed. It's @savewhatyoulovepodcast. And you can check out all the things we're doing at evaswild.com. That's the word save spelled backwards, wild dot com. Enjoy the show.

Whiskey Class  0:57  
Music: How do you save what you Love?

Mark Titus  1:25  
April Vokey.

April Vokey  1:27  
Hello.

Mark Titus  1:28  
Good to see you. Thank you for joining us. 

April Vokey  1:30  
Yeah. Good to see you again, too.

Mark Titus  1:32  
Where are you coming to us from today?

April Vokey  1:34  
Today I am in sunny Australia.

Mark Titus  1:38  
What day is it? It's Sunday here.

April Vokey  1:41  
Yeah, it's Monday 10am. And I'm just waiting for it to get a little bit warmer over there. And I think I'm about to suck it up and go back to Canada.

Mark Titus  1:50  
I was just gonna ask you, what are you doing over there? What's going on in Australia?

April Vokey  1:54  
We had my dog was here and was really sick. And so for the last two and a half years, I've just been by his side. And yeah, now that unfortunately he's gone. I'm trying to find one silver lining in it. It's almost impossible. But the one silver lining is I get to see my aging parents again. So I'm getting ready to head on home and get back with my family.

Mark Titus  2:19  
Good deal. I am so sorry. I'm a dog person as well. All my life I have to pugnacious renters right now. And I know there's nothing I can say that's gonna really solve that. But it is I know how much in love with my dogs I am and I'm just so sorry for your loss. 

April Vokey  2:39  
Thanks, Mark. Yeah, no, it's it's hell, it hell. And yeah, I don't really it's funny because I feel like the the human in me so badly wants to, like prep people for the things I didn't know. Like, I always like, well, maybe the silver lining is I can help somebody who doesn't see what's coming. But then it's like, also don't want to terrify people about what's to come. Because I know for almost 13 years, that was like, my number one fear. And it's as bad as you expect. So yeah, yeah. But you know, I'm reading a book, I'm reading a new book called it's okay to not be okay. And I think so far that looks like it's promising, because I just don't know what I just don't know what else to do. But try to face it.

Mark Titus  3:25  
That's great. I we're gonna get into a lot of this, I think. And, and it is okay to not be okay. Certainly part of my story. I think at the head of this thing, I just love to dive in right to the meat of this. And I'm inspired. This question is inspired by part of a podcast episode in your amazing podcast, Into The Backing that you broadcast in July I think last year was this particular episode, you were talking about the guilt or the selfishness about catching and releasing fish. And with that, just kind of as a general backdrop, I just want to ask you the big question. Why do you fish?

April Vokey  4:14  
Yeah, well, it's changed now to what what it was. I used to fish for the Mad adventure. Right and like it was never the fish, I started fishing quite young. And I'm talking like no, I'm not talking trolling worms with dad. I'm talking when I was 16 17, 18 19, 20 just wild out there. And it was for the excitement. You know, I wanted to run into bears and I wanted to turn the corner and my raft and have some awesome whitewater that I had to push through and I love getting lost like it's crazy, but I just loved the adventure. The fish were just a byproduct of the adventure growing up in British Columbia.

Mark Titus  4:53  
I know you've told your story many, many times. I've read a bunch of it in lots of different articles. It's a wonderful story. But if you could just for context for our listeners, could you give us a little bit of background how you found your way into this strange obsession that we share for fishing? And it doesn't seem like it was something that just came right out of your family? It seems like you kind of found it on your own.

Unknown Speaker  5:19  
Yeah, so Dad didn't fish, Dad doesn't fish. Nobody in my family really fishes. And so I was more drawn to the water. I think, really, the fish have always been a byproduct for me if I really have to look into it, because it was never the drawing. It was never what drew me to it. When I was a child. It didn't draw me to it when I was an independent teenager and young woman, and it still isn't what draws me to, you know, going fishing, it's never been the fish. And I understand it's different for everyone. But for me, it's just always been about the experience. But yeah, I love the water. And when I was really young, we were out and saw a dead salmon. That wasn't all you know, it hadn't been. It was it was pre spawn, not post spawn, so it must have hit its rock or something going up the canyon, or its head on a rock going up the canyon in any way. My parents explained that this enormous, beautiful, big Chinook salmon had tried to spawn and I'm looking at this river going yeah, but it's like 10, 15 feet wide. And they explained the migration. And that was it. For me, I was like, well, mathematics say that, obviously, I can intercept this fish, and it just kind of went from there. Then the rest is, you know, like I have mentioned before, and I don't want to bore you or bore anyone, but it was all I could think about I saved up my allowance to go and do it. And you know, by the mall, there was a tackle shop that became very quickly, my go to spot. So when I was in eighth grade, you know, 12, 13 girls would go to the mall, I'd go next door, get my stuff, spend my allowance on Jensen eggs, and then basically counted down till I was 16 to be able to go and drive and do it and then did that the day I turned 16 and met a man on the river who became kind of my mentor, not in fly fishing, but in conventional fishing. And I knew by 18 I was I was gonna do it professionally and set out to really, you know, expand my skills and my knowledge and started my own guidin...

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