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**Sorry! Had to take down this episode and repost it as Mark's voice was somehow muted when Matt exported the file. Fixed now!**

Today Stephen, Mark, and Matt chat about the promising antiviral remdesivir and the ethical dimensions of clinical trials.

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• A running list of Stephen’s interviews
• Lancet article Mark referenced
• Atlantic article Matt referenced

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Today Stephen and Matt talk about whether or not Sweden is the right direction for our country, and do a deep dive on the science of lockdowns. They end the episode by talking about how "saving" will become the new "spending" in America and "lean manufacturing" is still sustainable for businesses in light of a pandemic (any how lean principles may be helpful to us right now as well). Thanks for listening!

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Related Show Links:

• You can compare Sweden with their neighboring countries here.
• Here is an article about the difficulties in Sweden right now.
• Lockdowns Don't Work - Public Discourse
• South Dakota cases skyrocket
• Eight Waists of Lean

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