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    Explore " deep time" with insightful episodes like "Chris Larson, President of Ligonier Ministries Responds to Elon Musk and Deep Time", "Why thinking in Deep Time is good for your head", "Imagining the Permafrost | Special Edition", "Young Earth Creation and Biblical Compromise" and "Flourish: Designing new paradigms and expanding our agency with Sarah Ichioka" from podcasts like ""Dead Men Walking Podcast", "Big Ideas", "Undead Matter", "Uncensored Pilgrims" and "Accidental Gods"" and more!

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    Chris Larson, President of Ligonier Ministries Responds to Elon Musk and Deep Time

    Chris Larson, President of Ligonier Ministries Responds to Elon Musk and Deep Time

    This week Greg sat down with Chris Larson. Chris is the President of Ligonier Ministries. After Chris gave his testimony and his time under the mentorship of R.C. Sproul, they discussed Chris' reply to a now infamous Elon Musk tweet. They talked about "Deep Time" how it affects the believer, the world view of the materialist, and what it means to rightly Glorify God and enjoy him forever. They finished up with what's coming up with Ligonier Ministries in the near future. What a great episode! Enjoy!

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    Imagining the Permafrost | Special Edition

    Imagining the Permafrost | Special Edition

    The permafrost is a thriving ecosystem, teaming with life, mythology, histories and futures, hidden just below the surface. Yet unlike tropical rainforests or the deep oceans, this frozen expanse rarely appears in the cultural imagination. Curator Sophie J Williamson ventures on a journey to discover the life of the permafrost.

    In -40° winter of the Canadian Yukon Valley, ancient forests, perfectly preserved by the permafrost, are uncovered by miners and 10,000-year-old grass seeds sprout into life. In the blustery remote Artic town of Ny-Ålesund, Svalbard (the world's northernmost settlement) cryomicrobiologists drill boreholes hundreds of meters deep to explore the deepest and oldest of earthly ecologies, bringing to the surface living microbes that are hundreds of thousands of years old. And in unceded Sápmi lands of northern Finland, permafrost mounds decompose into marshy peatlands, while biologists trace the shifting bio- and geoacoustics of a changing ecology.

    From the piercing-white tundra and the hundreds of thousands of lakes across the vast expanse of Siberia, indigenous folklore emerges from the unknowns of the icy underlands. And scientists in Yakutsk (the world’s coldest city), travel the icy landscapes to discover the stories secreted within the still fleshy, visceral carcasses of mammoths and ancient creatures that are exposed as the millennia-year-old ice thaws.


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    With contributions by Hannu Autto, Jonathan Carruthers-Jones, Tori Herridge, Karen Lloyd, Sanna Piilo, Svetlana Romanova, Nikita Tananaev, Peter von Tiesenhausen, and other members of Sámi, Sakha and Yukagir communities of unceded Sápmi territory and Northern Siberia who prefer not to be named.

    Specially commissioned spoken word piece by Sata Taas (written and spoken by Al-Yene and Jaangy, with sound design by Karina Kazaryan aka KP Transmission)

    With excerpts of Jana Winderen's 'Energy Field', 'Listening Through the Dead Zones' and 'Pasvikdalen'. Published by Touch Music.


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    Recorded and curated by Sophie J Williamson
    Sound design by Rob Mackay
    Produced by Mark Rickards

    A Whistledown Scotland Production for BBC 3

    Imagining the Permafrost is part of the wider arts programme, Undead Matter. Follow on Instagram @undead_matter


    Young Earth Creation and Biblical Compromise

    Young Earth Creation and Biblical Compromise

    Why did the secular world abandon the belief in God as our creator, and why has the evangelical church gone so far in attempting to accommodate such unbiblical views?

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    "Screen Saver" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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    Image by Nacho Dominguez Argenta (Unsplash)

    Email your questions & comments to uncensoredpilgrims@gmail.com . The views & opinions given on this podcast, unless expressly stated otherwise, are exclusively those of Marty McLain and Paul Price.

    Flourish: Designing new paradigms and expanding our agency with Sarah Ichioka

    Flourish: Designing new paradigms and expanding our agency with Sarah Ichioka

    What will it take to restore balance in our world? How can we repair our devastated environments, and secure future generations' survival? And what's they key to unlock the mindset shift to enable truly regenerative transformation?   With Sarah Ichioka, co-author of 'Flourish: Design Paradigms for our Planetary Emergency'.

    Sarah Ichioka is co-author with Michael Pawlyn of 'Flourish' a rich, inspiring book that outlines key paradigm shifts for this time of planetary emergency.  Looking deeply into the web of life, Flourish proposes a bold, imaginative - and do-able - set of regenerative principles to transform how we design, make and manage our buildings and our communities.

    Sarah is an urbanist, curator, writer and podcast host.  Connecting cities, culture and ecology, she has been recognised as a World Cities Summit Young Leader, and one of the Global Public Interest Design 100.  She is founding director of the Singapore-based strategic consultancy 'Desire Lines' and is co-author, with Michael Pawlyn, of the book 'Flourish' and co-host with Michael of the Flourish podcast.

    In this expansive, incisive conversation, Sarah expands on the five paradigms she and Michael identified that are holding us back in the old 'business as usual' frame and the ways we can shift our world-view to new ways of thinking, being - and designing our lives. 

    Drawing on the work of foundational thinkers like Freya Matthews, Donella Meadows, Janine Benyus and Ronan Krznaric, plus existing communities such as the Los Angeles Eco Village, Sarah shows us that the ideas and actions are already in place, we just need to build them bigger, proving that, as Willam Gibson has said, the future is here, it's just unevenly distributed.

    Flourish book: https://www.flourish-book.com
    Flourish podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/flourish-systems-change/id1602779076

    Donella Meadows Leverage Points: https://donellameadows.org/a-visual-approach-to-leverage-points/

    Freya Matthews: http://www.freyamathews.net
    Jay Griffiths 'Pip Pip': http://jaygriffiths.com/books/pip-pip/
    Ronan Krznaric 'The Good Ancestor' :https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-good-ancestor-how-to-think-long-term-in-a-short-term-world/9780753554517
    Deep Time Walk App: https://www.deeptimewalk.org/kit/app/
    Los Angeles Eco-Village: https://laecovillage.org
    Built Environment Declares: https://builtenvironmentdeclares.com
    Architects Climate Action Network: https://www.architectscan.org

    Existing Between | Daisy Hildyard and Karen Lloyd

    Existing Between | Daisy Hildyard and Karen Lloyd

    Undead Matter is an unfolding conversation about where life lies in the ever-turning matter of our universe, as it rhythmically resurfaces over millennia.

    In this third episode, writer, Daisy Hildyard speaks with marine microbiologist, Karen Lloyd about 100-million-year-old microbes, that breathe and excrete minerals. From the small town of Ny Ålesund, Svalbard, Lloyd describes her explorations into the permafrost sub surface – where she extracts living microbes that have not interacted with the surface for at least 10,000 years – and questions the possible importance of the individual microbe within its community. Considering time as a malleable resource, they discuss the possibilities of differing perceptions of time, space and motion on different lifespan scales: from the human and the unfathomably ancient. Interwoven with readings from Hildyard’s book, The Second Body, the conversation bridges possibilities of dialogue, connections and the refusal of rules between the organic and the non-organic, the living and the non-living.

    Undead Matter, initiated and convened by curator Sophie J Williamson, is an ongoing collective project, materialising slowly and organically in exhibitions, events, podcasts, publishing and the intangible. The Undead Matter programme has emerged through intersecting collaborations with artists, poets, dancers and musicians, as well cryomicrobiologists, shamen, paleontologists, mineralogists, archaeoastronomers, woodworkers, quantum physicists, bondage masters, cryonics speculators and others encountered along the way. Each offers a perspective on our place within the infinite impermanence of life: past, present and possible.

    This series of podcasts traverses the slippery space between the organic and the inorganic. The conversations travel from remote Arctic tundra, where ancient creatures emerge from the melting permafrost; to deep within the geological substrata of the ocean bed among the sludge of millennia-old microorganisms; outward to the celestial expanse of interstellar dust, full of life-giving potential; and back again.

    Permafrost Hydrofeminism | Astrida Neimanis and Nikita Tananaev

    Permafrost Hydrofeminism | Astrida Neimanis and Nikita Tananaev

    Undead Matter is an unfolding conversation about where life lies in the ever-turning matter of our universe, as it rhythmically resurfaces over millennia.

    Cultural theorist, Astrida Neimanis’ theory of Hydrofeminism, positions water as an ever-shifting body that connects all beings and archives all histories. Unlike other bodies of water however, the permafrost wishes to remain still. In this fourth episode of Undead Matter podcasts, Neimanis speaks with permafrost hydrologist, Nikita Tananaev to discuss the cultural, philosophical and ecological implications of permafrost degradation as it disrupts ancient ecosystems suspended in the ice.

    Covering almost a quarter of the northern hemisphere’s landmass, the vast expanse of frozen permafrost landscape is an urgent frontier of climate change. Rapidly melting in the warming global climate, hundreds of thousands of years of organic matter is thawing, releasing terrifying amounts of methane, carbon and unknown viruses into the planet’s biome.

    Traveling across the thermokarst lakes and sparse tundra of northeast Siberia, they explore the complex entanglements of the ecologies, communities, mythologies and temporalities held amongst this fast-shifting landscape. Neimanis and Tananaev consider the blurred realities that exist within the watery movement of thaw and the dissolving of worlds of the Anthropocene. 

    This podcast was recorded in early 2022; since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the threat to these precarious landscapes is now more acute than ever. This episode was commissioned as part of the Dissolving Earths programme. Curated by Sophie J Williamson. Curatorial team: Yulia Gromova and Timur Zolotoev.


    Undead Matter, initiated and convened by curator Sophie J Williamson, is an ongoing collective project, materialising slowly and organically in exhibitions, events, podcasts, publishing and the intangible. The Undead Matter programme has emerged through intersecting collaborations with artists, poets, dancers and musicians, as well cryomicrobiologists, shamen, paleontologists, mineralogists, archaeoastronomers, woodworkers, quantum physicists, bondage masters, cryonics speculators and others encountered along the way. Each offers a perspective on our place within the infinite impermanence of life: past, present and possible.

    This series of podcasts traverse the slippery space between the organic and the inorganic. The conversations travel from remote Arctic tundra, where ancient creatures emerge from the melting permafrost; to deep within the geological substrata of the ocean bed among the sludge of millennia-old microorganisms; outward to the celestial expanse of interstellar dust, full of life-giving potential; and back again.

    Marking Silences | Myung Mi Kim and Kathryn Yusoff

    Marking Silences | Myung Mi Kim and Kathryn Yusoff

    Undead Matter is an unfolding conversation about where life lies in the ever-turning matter of our universe, as it rhythmically resurfaces over millennia.

    In this second episode, geographer Kathryn Yusoff speaks with poet Myung Mi Kim about the potencies of past lives, traumas, histories and possibilities that are held in the demarcated silences between the rock strata and between words.

    They consider the multiple ‘broken worlds’ that have come before our current perceptions of ecological crisis, and how descriptions of geologies have perpetuated colonial narratives erasing the geotraumas imposed on peoples through colonial extraction and violence. They question the possible sites of politics, intimacies and scripts of life, as places with the potential to activate new realities, as matter and words reform around us, time and again.

    Interweaving the conversation are readings of Kim’s poetry and a sound work by artist Shamica Ruddock. At the end of the podcast, the full sound work by Ruddock, Sun Dial 51.3861°, 1.3520° plays out, as it reaches downwards to the geological substrata beneath our feet.

    Follow the full programme on Instagram, @undead_matter or visit www.undeadmatter.com

    Emergent Interstellar Dust | Himali Singh Soin and Chandra Wickramasinghe

    Emergent Interstellar Dust | Himali Singh Soin and Chandra Wickramasinghe
    Undead Matter is an unfolding conversation about where life lies in the ever-turning matter of our universe, as it rhythmically resurfaces over millennia. This new series traverses the slippery space between the organic and the inorganic. The conversations travel from remote Artic tundra, where ancient creatures are emerging from the melting permafrost; to deep within the geological substrata of the ocean bed among the sludge of millennia-old microorganisms; outward to the celestial expanse of interstellar dust, full of life-giving potential; and back again.

    In this inaugural episode, artist and poet, Himali Singh Soin discusses cosmic ancestry and the biosphere of the galaxy with mathematician, astronomer and astrobiologist, Prof Chandra Wickramasinghe. Sri Lankan-born, Wickramasinghe, grew up seeing a pristine view of the celestial expanse in the night skies above his home in Colombo. Now a leading expert on interstellar material and the origins of life, much of his work tests the edges of controversial hypotheses on the cosmos, in particular the theory of panspermia. Drawing from Hindu and Buddhist mythology and philosophy, Soin and Wickramasinghe reconsider the west’s Judeo-Christian perspectives of the universe, questioning fundamental assumptions of the Big Bang as a moment of creation and the problem of how consciousness comes into being. Intertwined throughout their discussion, Soin reads from her vivid and provoking text, written in collaboration with Alexis Rider, Healing from Meteorites.

    Initiated and convened by curator Sophie J Williamson, Undead Matter is an ongoing collective project, materialising slowly and organically in exhibitions, events, podcasts, publishing and the intangible.

    The Undead Matter programme has emerged through intersecting collaborations with artists, poets, dancers and musicians, as well cryomicrobiologists, shamen, paleontologists, mineralogists, archaeoastronomers, woodworkers, quantum physicists, bondage masters, cryonics speculators and others encountered along the way. Each offers a perspective on our place within the infinite impermanence of life: past, present and possible.

    Follow the full programme on Instagram, @undead_matter or visit www.undeadmatter.com

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    Undead Matter is an unfolding conversation about where life lies in the ever-turning matter of our universe, as it rhythmically resurfaces over millennia.

    Traversing the slippery space between the organic and the non-organic, the conversations travel from remote Siberia tundra, where ancient creatures are emerging from the melting permafrost; to deep within the geological substrata of the ocean bed amongst the sludge of millennia-year-old slow-living microorganisms; and outwards to the celestial expanse of interstellar dust ripe with life-giving potential, and back again. 

    Undead Matter has emerged through intersecting discussions with artists, poets, dancers, writers and musicians, as well cryomicrobiologists, death doulas, palaeontologists, geologists, permafrost geographers, mineralogists, archaeoastronomers, woodworkers, quantum physicists, bondage masters, cryonics speculators, indigenous elders and others met along the way. Each offer their own perspective on our place within the infinite impermanence of life: past, present and possible. 

    With Himali Singh Soin, Chandra Wickramasinghe, Okwui Okpokwasili, Sophie J Williamson, Daisy Hildyard, Karen Lloyd, Myung Mi Kim, Kathryn Yusoff, Oreet Ashery, Tori Herridge, Shezad Dawood, Mark Nutall, Astrida Neimanis, Nikita Tananaev, Sayana Namsaraeva, Bo Choy, Rodion Sulyandziga, Carolina Caycedo, Elizabeth Povinelli and Nikita Zimov.

    Living Your Purpose— with Cecily Nicholson

    Living Your Purpose— with Cecily Nicholson

    Jennifer is joined by Cecily Nicholson, a critically-acclaimed poet to discuss her path of purpose through social action and and poetics. An advocate of mental health, prison abolitionism and a meticulous researcher Cecily shows us how to be generous observers of how the micro-everyday is tied to systems and histories of marginalization. She highlights the tensions of our choices on the inner and outer path of social change and the possibilities of emergence when we don't fix on a limited sense of self or time. In this episode she offers guidance on how to stay engaged with what we love while decentering ourselves as humble creatives.

    Cecily Nicholson teaches at Emily Carr University of Art and Design in Vancouver and is the author of Wayside Sang which won the 2018 Canadian Governor General’s Literary Award for Poetry. She's the author of Triage and From the Poplars, which received the 2015 Dorothy Livesay Poetry Prize.  Her upcoming book Harrowings is focused on Black ruralities and will be published in Fall 2022. 

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    2201 - The when & the why

    2201 - The when & the why

    The first attempt at a new thing.
    Learning new software and a workflow (audio) that is utterly foreign to me.
    Publishing this now because sometimes it is important just to begin. Practice will make progress.
    If you do find (and listen to) this, please do let me know when.
    For now, maybe the best place to find me is @polysemic.

    With apologies to @thejaymo for the outright cribbing of the format for his Permanently Moved podcast. The name and length of this one just felt like the right choice.

    Oliver Burkeman on Embracing Finitude and Completing a Few Meaningful Things

    Oliver Burkeman on Embracing Finitude and Completing a Few Meaningful Things

    This is the last episode before we take a podcasting break for the holidays. See you back here in January 2022!  

    And yes, we’re trying out a new name. The focus of the podcast has become broader than the topic of “taking a gap year.” So the new name is [B]OLDER: Making the most of growing older. 

    In other words, boldly reinventing life and work at midlife and beyond.

     

    Debbie is always on the lookout for guests who can lend a new perspective to the concept of time and our perception of how much of it we have. So when she read Oliver Burkeman’s new book, Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals, she knew he had to come on the show. 

    Plus the book is terrific and it's getting lots of notice.

    The first sentence is “The average human life span is absurdly, terrifyingly, insultingly short.” In other words, about 4,000 weeks.

    Oliver is a British author and journalist who wrote a popular weekly column, This Column Will Change Your Life, for The Guardian for over a decade. He has reported from London, Washington and New York and recently moved with his wife and son from Brooklyn, NY back to Yorkshire in the UK to be near his family. 

    He has established himself as a tongue-in-cheek expert on productivity and time management and how that does - or does not - lead to happiness. 

    He sums up his new book very nicely in his Twitter profile: explaining that 4,000 Weeks is about embracing limitation and finally getting round to what matters. 

    As he's 46, he's only lived about 2,400 of those 4,000 weeks himself but he tells Debbie in this episode  that he may be getting closer to a better relationship with time.

    Debbie and Oliver talk about time and self-worth, why we are so future-oriented, the connection between time and happiness, and why it might be okay that we use social media as a distraction. 

    Oliver is a contrarian thinker but he's truly interested in how to build a meaningful life. Debbie had a number of aha moments in this conversation and listeners will too!

     

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    Robert Macfarlane — The Worlds Beneath Our Feet

    Robert Macfarlane — The Worlds Beneath Our Feet

    There’s dark matter in the cosmos, and inside us, and hidden beneath our feet. Robert Macfarlane is an explorer and linguist of landscape and his book, Underland: A Deep Time Journey, is an odyssey that’s full of surprises — from caves and catacombs under land, under cities, and under forests to the meltwater of Greenland. “Since before we were Homo sapiens,” he writes, “humans have been seeking out spaces of darkness in which to find and make meaning.” Darkness in the natural world and in human life, he suggests, is a medium of vision — and descent, a movement toward revelation.

    Robert Macfarlane is a Fellow at the University of Cambridge. His books include Mountains of the Mind, The Old Ways, Landmarks, and Underland: A Deep Time Journey. With the artist Jackie Morris, he co-created the book of illustrated poetry, The Lost Words and a follow-up,  The Lost Spells.

    Find the transcript for this show at onbeing.org.

    This show originally aired on November 14, 2019.

     

    [Unedited] Robert Macfarlane with Krista Tippett

    [Unedited] Robert Macfarlane with Krista Tippett

    There’s dark matter in the cosmos, and inside us, and hidden beneath our feet. Robert Macfarlane is an explorer and linguist of landscape and his book, Underland: A Deep Time Journey, is an odyssey that’s full of surprises — from caves and catacombs under land, under cities, and under forests to the meltwater of Greenland. “Since before we were Homo sapiens,” he writes, “humans have been seeking out spaces of darkness in which to find and make meaning.” Darkness in the natural world and in human life, he suggests, is a medium of vision — and descent, a movement toward revelation.

    Robert Macfarlane — is a Fellow at the University of Cambridge. His books include Mountains of the Mind, The Old Ways, Landmarks, and Underland: A Deep Time Journey. With the artist Jackie Morris, he co-created the book of illustrated poetry, The Lost Words and a follow-up,  The Lost Spells.

    This interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode "Robert Macfarlane — The Worlds Beneath Our Feet." Find the transcript for that show at onbeing.org.

    Underground Caves of Naica and Deep Time

    Underground Caves of Naica and Deep Time

    58 degree celsius, 100% humidity and pitch dark. This is not Mars, but somewhere on our very own planet. While 2020 killed all our travel plans, I am sure even that would not make you go here. But there was a Spanish man who was waiting for the moment he could visit this place. A place where you would not survive for more than a couple of minutes. This week, starting a new series, Alien Landscapes, it take you deep into the Naica mines in Mexico, and bring to the fore the idea of Deep Time. Tune in, to discover what scientific and life secrets hide in these mines which today are not accessible to anyone.

    Find more travel stories on #PostcardsFromNowhere with Utsav Mamoria.

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    Monique Péan on the Transformative Nature of Fossils, Rocks, and Meteorites

    Monique Péan on the Transformative Nature of Fossils, Rocks, and Meteorites

    New York–based jewelry and object designer Monique Péan sees fossils and extraterrestrial materials as portals to another time, space, and place. Pyritized dinosaur bones, woolly mammoth tooth roots, meteorites, and lunaites are among her work’s mediums. She sources these from remote locations—including the Arctic Circle, where she located fossils with Native Alaskan Inupiat and Yupik tribes, and on Easter Island, where that site’s aboriginal Polynesian inhabitants helped her hand-carve cosmic obsidian, found on local terrain—and then transforms them into striking, sculptural works of art. 

    Recently, Péan began working on a larger scale, expanding her practice to sculpture and furniture. One of her first pieces in this vein, a bronze vessel incorporating part of a rare meteorite, is included in “Objects: USA 2020,” a forthcoming exhibition at New York’s R & Company gallery (now opening on February 16, 2021, due to the Covid-19 pandemic), curated by Glenn Adamson, Abby Bangser, Evan Snyderman, and James Zemaitis. Péan wants viewers to experience the wonder she feels when holding a piece of the universe in her hands: a transportive, calming energy that signals the vastness of deep time—and illuminates her role in harnessing it. 

    Péan traces her draw toward these specimens to her younger sister, Vanessa, who died in a car accident at age 16. The loss prompted her, then in her mid-20s (she is now 39), to approach life with urgency and intention. She quit her job as an analyst at Goldman Sachs and, a year later, in 2006, launched her eponymous jewelry line. Each piece is, in a way, a memorial to her only sibling. They’re also a means for the designer to explore the origins of life, and to express not only herself but also gratitude toward the planet: Péan donates a portion of the proceeds from every accessory sold to Charity: Water, a nonprofit that provides clean drinking water to communities in need, and avoids using materials that require mining, opting for antique diamonds and recycled gold or platinum instead. The ancient materials she uses are found lying on the Earth’s surface, collected by simply picking them up off of the ground, and in Péan’s hands, they’re turned into wearable reminders of natural phenomena.

    On this episode, Péan details how she came to understand time through geology, talking with Spencer about her fascination with fossils, rocks, and meteorites; her profound experiences working with indigenous peoples to locate age-old materials; how her Haitian-Jewish background has shaped her worldview; and the ways in which her jewelry pays tribute to her late sister.

    Marcia Bjornerud: Think Like A Geologist

    Marcia Bjornerud: Think Like A Geologist

    Have you ever looked at the world through the lens of “deep time”? Carter speaks to Marcia Bjornerud, author of Timefulness: How Thinking Like a Geologist Can Help Save the World. They discuss why the title of her new book is a play on “mindfulness,” and the importance of being able to appreciate the perspective of geological time. Bjornerud suggests that our species tends to have a “temporal illiteracy.” By embracing a more profound view of Earth’s history, we can better understand our own lives and the timescales on which planetary change happens. They discuss the history of geology and the emergence of a new science of “catastrophic events” like the meteor that led to the extinction of the dinosaurs. Sometimes bad things happen to good planets. Bjornerud brings her “geo-evangelical” perspective to the discussion, her rich sense of the natural world, and her deep knowledge of the Earth’s history. She suggests that by appreciating the dynamic history of the biosphere, and our intrinsic relationship to the planet, we will be better stewards of Earth’s future.