health data analytics

Guest: Dr. Bruce Y Lee, Executive Director of PHICOR (Public Health Informatics, Computational, and Operations Research) [@PHICORteam]

On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/bruce-y-lee-68a6834/

On Twitter | https://twitter.com/bruce_y_lee

Website | https://www.bruceylee.com/

On Forbes | https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/

On Psychology Today | https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/bruce-y-lee-md-mba

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Host: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast

On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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Episode Introduction

Welcome to another thrilling episode of Redefining Society, a podcast that dives deep into the intersections of technology, cybersecurity, and society. This is your host, Marco Ciappelli, coming to you as always from ITSPmagazine. Our conversations explore the impact of tech innovations on every aspect of human life, and today's episode promises to be both eye-opening and informative.

Joining us today is Bruce Y. Lee, a professor at the City University of New York School of Public Health and executive director of FICO, a research group focused on the interplay of AI, technology, health, and public health. Bruce is also a journalist who covers health, healthcare, and science for Forbes and other publications.

In this episode, we focus on a topic that has drastically transformed every aspect of our lives: the pandemic. More than just discussing the end of the federal public health emergency, we broaden our perspective to explore the lasting impacts of this crisis. We delve into what we've learned so far, the anticipation of similar situations in the future, and how technology plays a pivotal role in healthcare policies and humanity at large.

Throughout our discussion, we strive to understand how technology can help us better prepare for, manage, and recover from health emergencies. From tracking the spread of diseases to supporting rapid response measures, Bruce shares insightful perspectives on how technology can be harnessed to protect and advance public health.

On a broader scale, we ponder the impacts of technology on our society. How does it shape our humanity? Are we on the path to a better life despite the fears often associated with AI and technology?

With Bruce's expertise in the intersection of AI, technology, health, and public health, this conversation offers invaluable insights into global health's current state and healthcare technology's future.

As always, we invite you to share your thoughts on these topics. Comment, share, and subscribe to stay connected with Redefining Society and continue the conversation with us. Let's dive into today's episode and learn more about how technology and data are transforming healthcare and shaping the future of our society.
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Resources

Forbes coverage: Covid-19 Emergency Declarations End May 11, What You Need To Know: https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2023/05/04/covid-19-emergency-declarations-end-may-11-what-you-need-to-know/?sh=301dd868b541

The End of the Federal Public Health Emergency for COVID-19 - What Does it Mean? (video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=funjHHYsii4

PHICOR: https://www.phicor.org/

AIMINGS: https://www.phicor.org/aimings

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To see and hear more Redefining Society stories on ITSPmagazine, visit:
https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-society-podcast

Watch the webcast version on-demand on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllTUoWMGGQHlGVZA575VtGr9

Are you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?
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Guest: Dr. Bruce Y Lee, Executive Director of PHICOR (Public Health Informatics, Computational, and Operations Research) [@PHICORteam]

On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/bruce-y-lee-68a6834/

On Twitter | https://twitter.com/bruce_y_lee

Website | https://www.bruceylee.com/

On Forbes | https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/

On Psychology Today | https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/bruce-y-lee-md-mba

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Host: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast

On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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This Episode’s Sponsors

BlackCloak 👉 https://itspm.ag/itspbcweb

Bugcrowd 👉 https://itspm.ag/itspbgcweb

Devo 👉 https://itspm.ag/itspdvweb

_____________________________

Episode Introduction

Welcome to another thrilling episode of Redefining Society, a podcast that dives deep into the intersections of technology, cybersecurity, and society. This is your host, Marco Ciappelli, coming to you as always from ITSPmagazine. Our conversations explore the impact of tech innovations on every aspect of human life, and today's episode promises to be both eye-opening and informative.

Joining us today is Bruce Y. Lee, a professor at the City University of New York School of Public Health and executive director of FICO, a research group focused on the interplay of AI, technology, health, and public health. Bruce is also a journalist who covers health, healthcare, and science for Forbes and other publications.

In this episode, we focus on a topic that has drastically transformed every aspect of our lives: the pandemic. More than just discussing the end of the federal public health emergency, we broaden our perspective to explore the lasting impacts of this crisis. We delve into what we've learned so far, the anticipation of similar situations in the future, and how technology plays a pivotal role in healthcare policies and humanity at large.

Throughout our discussion, we strive to understand how technology can help us better prepare for, manage, and recover from health emergencies. From tracking the spread of diseases to supporting rapid response measures, Bruce shares insightful perspectives on how technology can be harnessed to protect and advance public health.

On a broader scale, we ponder the impacts of technology on our society. How does it shape our humanity? Are we on the path to a better life despite the fears often associated with AI and technology?

With Bruce's expertise in the intersection of AI, technology, health, and public health, this conversation offers invaluable insights into global health's current state and healthcare technology's future.

As always, we invite you to share your thoughts on these topics. Comment, share, and subscribe to stay connected with Redefining Society and continue the conversation with us. Let's dive into today's episode and learn more about how technology and data are transforming healthcare and shaping the future of our society.
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Resources

Forbes coverage: Covid-19 Emergency Declarations End May 11, What You Need To Know: https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2023/05/04/covid-19-emergency-declarations-end-may-11-what-you-need-to-know/?sh=301dd868b541

The End of the Federal Public Health Emergency for COVID-19 - What Does it Mean? (video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=funjHHYsii4

PHICOR: https://www.phicor.org/

AIMINGS: https://www.phicor.org/aimings

____________________________

To see and hear more Redefining Society stories on ITSPmagazine, visit:
https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-society-podcast

Watch the webcast version on-demand on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllTUoWMGGQHlGVZA575VtGr9

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If you look at almost any engagement survey that a company does, career development is almost always one of the lowest scores. Robyn Clark, the founder of WinningWise, an HR and talent management company, says that’s largely because employers career development because they think it's only for the person – the employee – and not for them. That’s completely and utterly wrong.

Robyn explains that if employers are preparing a workforce for the future, they should be looking to develop people so they can take on ever-bigger projects and go into broader roles, some of which may not even be known yet. 

Robyn further says career development is probably the most important talent strategy today, one that offers a huge win for both the organization and the individual because the employer is building the bench that they want and they're meeting two significant needs for the employee: mastery and personal growth.

Catch the full conversation.

• Connect with Robyn Clark on LinkedIn
• Watch WinningWise’s webinar “Understanding Individual Needs: How Employee Needs Have Shifted Since the Pandemic”
• Get the complete 2023 Employee Health Trends report and other related resources
• Connect with our co-hosts Jennifer Jones and Mike Pattengale 
• Subscribe so you don’t miss an episode: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and other popular podcast players. 

Have feedback, questions, or suggestions for show ideas? Send them to us at podcast@springbuk.com.

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A 2023 Business Group on Health survey showed that for the first time in history, cancer overtook musculoskeletal disease as the top cost driver for employers. Natalya Gertsik, vice president of Clear Cancer Solution Management at PHM, and a contributor to the 2023 Springbuk Employee Health Trends report, says this is a major issue from employers and their employees because of three main deficiencies in our healthcare system related to cancer care:

• limited access
• inadequate communication
• inefficiency

She describes the respective underlying issues with Centers of Excellence and community-based oncologists, and then explains how PHM is applying an ”independence clinical excellence model” to address these deficiencies and challenges.

Catch the full conversation.

• Connect with Natalya Gertsik on LinkedIn
• Get the complete 2023 Employee Health Trends report and other related resources
• Connect with our co-hosts Jennifer Jones and Mike Pattengale 
• Subscribe so you don’t miss an episode: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and other popular podcast players. 

Have feedback, questions, or suggestions for show ideas? Send them to us at podcast@springbuk.com.

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For the past few years, specialty drugs have played a large and growing role in the overall cost of employee healthcare. In this episode, Janet Young, M.D., lead clinical scientist and co-author of Springbuk's 2023 Employee Health Trends Report, describes the factors that are driving the biggest increases and get some tips on what employers can do to keep their costs under control. 

Catch the full conversation.

• Connect with Janet Young on LinkedIn
• Get the complete 2023 Employee Health Trends report and other related resources
• Connect with our co-hosts Jennifer Jones and Mike Pattengale 
• Subscribe so you don’t miss an episode: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and other popular podcast players. 

Have feedback, questions, or suggestions for show ideas? Send them to us at podcast@springbuk.com.

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We are now into our fourth year of dealing with COVID. Since it burst into our consciousness in early 2020, we've seen massive changes in treatments and long-term effects, including the enigmatic, long COVID  and strains on mental health. To kick off season two of “Healthcare on the Rocks: Employee Benefits with a Twist,” we're going to start with a mini-series, exploring the major trends that are reshaping employee healthcare. 

This episode’s featured guests are three of the analysts and authors of Springbuk's 2023 Employee Health Trends Report. Janet Young, M.D., lead clinical scientist; Chris Gagen, senior director of analytic and strategic consulting; and Jennifer Jones, MSM RD, enterprise employer practice leader.

Catch the full conversation.

• Connect with Janet Young and Chris Gagen on LinkedIn
• Get the complete 2023 Employee Health Trends report and other related resources
• Connect with our co-hosts Jennifer Jones and Mike Pattengale 
• Subscribe so you don’t miss an episode: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and other popular podcast players. 

Have feedback, questions, or suggestions for show ideas? Send them to us at podcast@springbuk.com.

Please rate and review us on your favorite podcast platform, and share it with your friends and colleagues. We appreciate you and thank you for listening!

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Imagine you’ve just received a life-changing diagnosis: maybe it’s cancer, maybe it’s ALS. Whatever it is, the last thing you would want to worry about is finding the best specialist or questioning if your prognosis is correct. 

That’s where an Expert Medical Opinion solution can help. Josh Reimer, Director of Channel Partnerships at Included Health, joined us to review many of the challenges of our current healthcare system:

• Confusion: 50% of individuals struggle to understand their insurance
• Low engagement: 33% of individuals avoid medical care altogether
• Lack of access: >16,000 physician offices closed due to COVID
• High costs: 30% of healthcare spend is considered waste

He then explained how an EMO solution can help break down those barriers to simplify the healthcare experience, delivering access to 4000  of the top clinical specialists and subspecialists nationwide.

Listen to the full conversation.

• Connect with Josh Reimer on LinkedIn
• Visit Included Health
• Connect with our co-hosts Jennifer Jones and David Pittman 
• Subscribe so you don’t miss an episode: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and other popular podcast players

Have feedback, questions, or suggestions for show ideas? Send them to us at podcast@springbuk.com.

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“What we've seen in the last 10 to 15 years … is a juggernaut of costs from specialty medicines, usually wonderful medicines with great cures, but that come at a significant cost. … And whereas the split between medical and pharma used to be that we spent some of our time on utilization of pharmacy and prescriptions and generics and mail order versus retail, now specialty medicine is just blowing everything out of the water from a cost perspective.” 

With that, healthcare industry thought leader Dr. Ron Leopold launched into an engaging conversation about macro trends in employee benefits, covering the ever-evolving effects of COVID, the proliferation of point solutions, the major cost drivers for employers, and how those employers should be using data to contain their costs.

“There's a whole lot that we can measure if we're smart and understand this requires both looking at the data and then really thinking through cause and effect,” said Dr. Leopold.

Listen to the full conversation.

• Connect with Dr. Leopold on LinkedIn
• Visit RonLeopold.com
• Connect with our co-hosts Jennifer Jones and Mike Pattengale 
• Subscribe so you don’t miss an episode: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and other popular podcast players

Have feedback, questions, or suggestions for show ideas? Send them to us at podcast@springbuk.com.

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The Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2021 (CAA) was signed into law, including many provisions that impact employer-sponsored health plans. The CAA mandates a new set of requirements for pharmacy reporting, mental health parity compliance, consumer price transparency, balance-billing practices, and other requirements related to contracts between employers, their health plans, and broker/consultant partners.

It’s complex. Shannon Kukulka, an employee benefits attorney at Waller and former  in-house counsel for a Fortune 500 company, joined Nicole Belles, vice president of product at Springbuk, and regular host Jennifer Jones to share her legal knowledge and practical advice on how employers can navigate the murky waters of the CAA.

• Connect with Shannon on LinkedIn
• Visit Waller’s website
• Read Shannon’s blog about the CAA
• Connect with our co-hosts Jennifer Jones and Nicole Belles 
• Subscribe so you don’t miss an episode: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and other popular podcast players

Have feedback, questions, or suggestions for show ideas? Send them to us at podcast@springbuk.com.

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Healthiest Employers is the trusted awards program that recognizes people-first organizations that are taking a more proactive approach to employee health. Since its inception in 2009, the Healthiest Employers corporate wellness program has attracted over 10,000 employers representing more than 60 million employees from all across the United States.

Haley Elmore, Healthiest Employers program coordinator, joined Jennifer and Mike to share several of the attributes found in organizations that were named in the Healthiest 100 Workplaces in America. She also explain why companies choose to apply for the program and the value they take away from participating, even if they don’t receive a regional or national award. HINT:  it’s learning from the best of the best.

Listen as Haley provides recommendations for both employers and their employees.

• Connect with Haley on LinkedIn
• Visit Healthiest Employers website
• Read the Healthiest Employers blog
• Get a Benchmark Report with more than 40 pages of data, charts, and recommendations
• Connect with our co-hosts Jennifer Jones and Mike Pattengale 
• Subscribe so you don’t miss an episode: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and other popular podcast players

Have feedback, questions, or suggestions for show ideas? Send them to us at podcast@springbuk.com.

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Specialty drugs are playing a significant role in the increasing healthcare costs in the commercial market. In this third episode of a mini-series based on the 2022 Employee Health Trends report, Janet Young, M.D., Lead Clinical Scientist at Springbuk and co-author of the report, talks about which specialty drugs are driving the most cost and alternatives that benefits leaders can explore.

Discover why one condition has a relatively small percentage of people receiving a specialty drug, but that is still drive a large dollar value of spending, and hear which conditions our data scientists expect to drive growth of specialty drug use over the next couple of years.

Get tips for how employers can reduce costs on specialty drugs without reducing efficacy, including looking at where the drugs are administered. 

And learn the steps employers can take now to increase adoption of lower-cost alternative drugs and to ensure they are able to reap cost savings as new biosimilars come into the market over the next two to three years.

Listen as Janet provides recommendations for both employers and their employees.

• Connect with Janet on LinkedIn
• Get the complete 2022 Employee Health Trends report
• Connect with our co-hosts Jennifer Jones and Mike Pattengale 
• Subscribe so you don’t miss an episode: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and other popular podcast players

Have feedback, questions, or suggestions for show ideas? Send them to us at podcast@springbuk.com.

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Health insurance was established to protect us from catastrophic financial loss, but David Contorno, CEO and founder of E-Powered Benefits, says, “medical debt is the number one cause of bankruptcy in the U.S., with the huge majority of them having had health insurance?”

David explains how the typical broker and carrier contracts are structured so that they benefit most when costs go up. His firm turns the usual system of incentives around so they’re paid on how much they lower costs. 

Learn about his firm’s approach to building benefit plans that are built specifically for a company’s culture and workforce … and discover why insurance carriers don’t like him much.

• Connect with David on LinkedIn
• David’s viral post about Health Expenditure vs. Life Expectancy
• Get the e-book Social Determinants of Health: A Springbuk Perspective
• Marshall Allen’s book, Never Pay the First Bill: And Other Ways to Fight the Health Care System and Win
• Get the complete 2022 Employee Health Trends report
• Connect with our co-hosts Jennifer Jones and Mike Pattengale 
• Subscribe so you don’t miss an episode: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and other popular podcast players.   

Have feedback, questions, or suggestions for show ideas? Send them to us at podcast@springbuk.com.

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In this second episode of a mini-series based on the 2022 Employee Health Trends report, we talk with co-author Janet Young, M.D., Lead Clinical Scientist at Springbuk, about the impacts COVID-19 has had on employee healthcare and employer benefit plans. 

Armed with data from more than 30,000 COVID patients, Janet and her fellow data analysts split the research into individuals who had COVID into hospitalized and non-hospitalized to get a better understanding of what was happening within each group.

Their findings were stunning: during a six-month period after an initial COVID diagnosis, hospitalized patients cost about 70% more than the researchers expected. Even non-hospitalized patients saw an increase of about 25%.

What’s this mean for employee benefit plans? As the pandemic seems to be drawing to an end, employers need to be mindful that doesn’t mean their healthcare costs will immediately drop. 

And besides the costs for acute care, the data show many people, unsurprisingly, have post-acute care mental health issues that may linger for an extended time. 

Listen as Janet provides recommendations for both employers and their employees. 

• Connect with Janet on LinkedIn
• Get the complete 2022 Employee Health Trends report
• Connect with our co-hosts Jennifer Jones and Mike Pattengale 
• Subscribe so you don’t miss an episode: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and other popular podcast players.   

Have feedback, questions, or suggestions for show ideas? Send them to us at podcast@springbuk.com.

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In the 2021 Employee Health Trends report, Springbuk discovered the rate of telemedicine services per 1000 plan members had increased 12-fold over the previous year’s data, which was mostly prior to the COVID-19 pandemic. Digging deeper into the data, Chris Gagen and the rest of the Springbuk analytics team found mental health accounted for more than 40 percent of those encounters.

What has happened in the year since then? 

• Have telemedicine visits overall increased, decreased, or remained relatively constant?
• What about telemental health services? Has the long two-year grind of the pandemic caused more people to seek care via the internet?
• Who is using the services most?
• What’s causing the variance in telemedicine visits among demographic groups?

Those are some of the topics that Chris, Springbuk’s Senior Director of Analytic & Strategic Consulting, explains in this episode.

• Connect with Chris on LinkedIn
• Get the complete 2022 Employee Health Trends report
• Connect with our co-hosts Jennifer Jones and Mike Pattengale 
• Subscribe so you don’t miss an episode: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and other popular podcast players.   

Have feedback, questions, or suggestions for show ideas? Send them to us at podcast@springbuk.com.

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You might know Spencer Smith hosts a popular podcast around self-funded insurance. Or you may have seen his video series on stop-loss insurance, which has become standard curriculum for many people just starting in the industry. 

But did you know Spencer loves heavy metal, which many people find shocking? Or that he once dabbled in stand-up comedy, where he occasionally bombed on stage, “which is just brutal to your soul.” 

Listen to him describe how he used that feeling of “being vulnerable on stage in front of 200 people and totally sucking” to build his confidence. 

In this wide-ranging conversation, Spencer encourages those who are struggling with self-confidence to “learn how to be comfortable being uncomfortable.” And he explains how one question — Are you a runner or a chaser? — can help you reframe your challenges and turn them into a personal guide to success. Finally, he describes the important lesson he learned from coaching his daughter’s youth soccer team: why you don’t need a shirt that says “Coach.”

• Connect with Spencer on LinkedIn
• Listen to “Self-Funded with Spencer” podcast
• Watch Spencer’s Stop-Loss Insurance videos on YouTube
• Learn more about the Springbuk Health Intelligence platform
• Connect with our co-hosts Jennifer Jones and Mike Pattengale 

Have feedback, questions, or suggestions for show ideas? Send them to us at podcast@springbuk.com.

Please rate and review us on your favorite podcast platform, and share it with your friends and colleagues. We appreciate you and thank you for listening!

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In today’s tight labor market, employers are struggling to identify the unique value proposition that they can offer to prospective employees as well as to retain current staff. For example, the importance of - and desire for - family benefits and mental health have risen dramatically over recent years.

Another set of hot-button questions for HR leaders revolves around diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). What access to care do our employees have? How can we ensure our employee population is supported? Are our policies truly supportive to all our employees, including LGBTQ and every race and ethnicity? Is our pay equity in line? Who do we want to be as a company, culturally? 

In this episode, Megan Nail, CCP, SHRM-SCP, CEBS, SPHR-CA, shares her experience handling these challenging issues as Vice President of the Total Rewards Practice at First Person Advisors, now a subsidiary of NFP, and State Director for HR Indiana Society for Human Resource Management (SHRM).

Megan advises clients on how to meet their organization’s goals through total rewards and compensation strategy. She builds and designs market-competitive base and incentive pay structures throughout the organization, including prioritizing compensation as a key component of the employee value proposition.

• Connect with Megan on LinkedIn 
• Listen to FirstPerson’s podcast, “Human Resolve”

Have feedback, questions, or suggestions for show ideas? Send them to us at podcast@springbuk.com.

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In this episode, we talk with Jason Nordby, who is a senior account executive and partner at M3 Insurance, specializing in employee benefits and coordinating ongoing service for clients to ensure that their coverage meets their needs. Jason is also M3’s director of employee benefits captive practice. In this role, he serves as a subject matter expert, strategist, and thought leader on health captives agency-wide.

Jason explains how the healthcare system and the insurance world around it were “broken” as he started his career 27 years ago. He describes what benefits captives are and how they came into their own during the early days of Obamacare.

He says the introduction of employee benefits captives was the biggest twist he’s seen in his career. With this innovation, forward-thinking, data-driven employers could pool together with like-minded organizations to create stability for themselves as purchasers of healthcare insurance. 

Jason explains how captives allow organizations “to exit a dirty risk pool and enter into a cleaner pool” with other groups that are doing similar things to manage and mitigate risk. This affords employers the benefits of being self-funded while gaining access to more data so they can be more strategic. 

Lastly, we invite you to weigh in on the heated debate about who asked the better questions: Jennifer or Mike.

• Connect with Jason on LinkedIn
• Connect on LinkedIn with our hosts, Jennifer Jones and Mike Pattengale

Have feedback, questions, or suggestions for show ideas? Send them to us at podcast@springbuk.com.

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In “Healthcare on the Rocks - Employee Benefits with a Twist,” we talk with employers, benefits advisors, technology innovators, and other experts in wellness, human resources, and healthcare.

Our first guest is Scott McGohan, CEO of McGohan Brabender, one of the largest independent health insurance brokers in the Midwest with offices in Dayton, Columbus, Cincinnati, and Indianapolis. Scott works on vision casting, strategy alignment, and leadership deployment. His professional philosophy is that, as a business leader, it is always about the people. Products are delivered by people, and when people believe in themselves they will believe in you. 

Scott describes himself as “probably a Pollyanna, maybe a unicorn. Definitely an eternal optimist.” He describes the healthcare industry as “a gigantic, epic battleship, and to turn this thing is hard work,” but he believes that together, we can make a massive change in the evolution of the healthcare industry.

Like most advisors, McGohan Brabender was great at looking at reports and seeing what had happened. But they were not content with this mostly retroactive approach. They saw how they could use data to look forward to better guide their clients.

Hear Scott describe how people react when they learn he changed careers from his beginnings as a diamond salesman to settling down into a 30+ year career in insurance. And listen as he shares the values that drive him and, by extension, the culture of McGohan Brabender.

Finally, discover why people run from Scott on Thursdays - but why others flock to his social media posts on those days.

• Connect with Scott on LinkedIn
• Connect on LinkedIn with our hosts, Jennifer Jones and Mike Pattengale
• Listen to McGohan Bradender’s “Side Affects Podcast”
• Read “The Simple Truths of Service: Inspired by Johnny the Bagger” 

Have feedback, questions, or suggestions for show ideas? Send them to us at podcast@springbuk.com.

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