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OK, joking aside – this episode, it’s well worth skipping the intro, even though we discuss our benevolent and beloved sponsors Optimove and Clarion Gaming. Jon talks absolute waffle, even going into a race he once organised, and a wedding fayre (that’s how they spell it, really), and bigging up his own credentials to run ICE as a result. Fintan is not convinced [0:00 – 37:37].

Then they’re joined by the lovely and knowledgable Frank Op de Woerd of www.CasinoNieuws.nl – basically if Frank doesn’t know it about the Netherlands industry, it’s not worth knowing. The conversation covers various gambling industry topics in the Netherlands, kicking off with the return of Betsson to the Dutch market and the history of their involvement. The discussion then moves on to the court case involving Entain and BetCity, where undisclosed investigations and fines are causing legal issues. The conversation also touches on the advertising restrictions for individuals under 24 and the challenges faced by affiliates. Finally, there is a discussion on societal polarity and the role of faith in shaping people's beliefs and ideologies. The conversation explores the demonization of others, negative prospects for the future, the importance of faith, creating a cause for the disenfranchised, the appeal of Trump, the role of dark money, dysfunctional government and corporate influence, the historical angle of voting, and the choice between Biden and Trump. Yeah, we go all over the place. We finish up with a discussion about the upcoming Dutch Online Casino Awards [37:38 – 1:26:51].

It's another winner! Except for Jon droning on in the intro.

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Well, Jon messed up and left his car keys at the hotel, which would have been fine but his mic was locked in the car, which is at ExCeL. So a slightly more rustic feel to today's episode, not least because Fintan is busy doing chairman things. It also means no intro, so we go straight into the action with Better Change's Rob Mabbett. Rob joins Jon to talk about the team's tie-up with RG24/7, as they now offer the latter's training free of charge. How to spell Leeds also comes up, along with tales of Deb The Greek and Mick The Coin off Ludlow market, and even Terry Fox. But mainly, it's about the training stuff and why it's valuable [0:00 - 25:05].

Then the Mighty Mel Ellis joins Jon as he eulogises about the excellent Optimove software, and the pair get into how the consultation on the UK white paper is going. Norwegian pastries make an appearance, and of course, ICE is discussed. Just what does a top gambling industry lawyer do at a top gambling industry trade event, exactly? Find out here! [25:06 - 53:20]

This podcast is presented by Optimove, which is used by 56% of the EGR Power50 to personalize player experiences. Visit Optimove here for more info, not least because it helps to support independent podcasts like ours. Go on, click it! Find out! It’s awesome.

More tomorrow!

It's just Jon this week, Fintan and his hair are away being a Proper Dad. Doing away with the old intro format, Jon gets right into it with guest Scott Longley of the +More media empire, finding out about their newest product, Compliance + More; then they discuss recent events around 888, and the likelihood of iCasino ever appearing in New York State. 

It's another winner. But we miss Fintan.