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Adam gathers with the Vineyard Worship crew to talk about Vineyard Worship Essentials, an online training opportunity! You can join a cohort or audit the program with your worship community or by yourself. Take a listen and share this episode with all the worship leaders in your life! Sign up now at: Vineyardworship.com/essentials

Life is brutal and full of pain, but the reward of leaning into pain, and allowing God to work in and through us, is eternal. Sam Chand joins Pastors Banning Liebscher, David Perkins, and Lyle Phillips to discuss the cost of pastoring and leading in the church. Check out Sam’s free resource for leaders, the AVAIL journal- availjournal.com.

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“I think that we are called to pour our life into what will be left behind…I’m convinced that what will be left behind is not structures we built, not things we implemented, but just people that we fathered – that’s what’s going to be left behind.”

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Banning Liebscher

Banning Liebscher was on staff at Bethel Church in Redding, California for eighteen years and founded the ministry Jesus Culture during that time. Banning and his family, along with the Jesus Culture team, relocated to the capital of California where they started a church, Jesus Culture Sacramento. Their vision is to see people encounter God, be empowered in community, and engage their city for revival and transformation. He and his wife, SeaJay, have three children.

Ministry Shout Out!

• Christian Men's Network - https://cmn.men/
• Brave Men Podcast
• Every Child Deserves a Loving Dad - Global Fatherhood Initiative is a human justice mission focused on defeating fatherlessness and stopping child abuse. As a result of sweeping global success, CMN has launched the Global Fatherhood Initiative—a strategic effort focusing on defeating fatherlessness, ending child abuse, and setting men free from sin and Satan.

Conversation Notes

• 3:30 – “I think that we are called to pour our life into what will be left behind…I’m convinced that what will be left behind is not structures we built, not things we implemented, but just people that we fathered – that’s what’s going to be left behind.”
• 3:51 – “I feel like I am to bring my life to the next generation and lay it down for them and give it to them.”
• 4:44 – Dads being dreamers vs. Dads settling
• 5:45 – “When I stop dreaming, when I stop allowing my heart to really dream about things that apart from God are impossible, I not longer kind of lean in, I begin to lean back. I don’t engage, I disengage. And I would say the greatest thing in the world you could do for your kids is to be a dreamer that’s pursuing what God has in your life.”
• 6:17 – “So I think our kids seeing us pursue the dreams that are in our heart is a really critical part of our fathering and discipling of them.”
• 7:02 – “I think what we do comes out of who we are, and that we can’t be defined by what we do.”
• 7:14 – We have a call to “be” which is our IDENTITY and we have a call to “do” which is our MISSION.
• 8:03 – Challenging dads to not settle for anything less than the fullness of God in your life.
• 10:12 – “As long as you move at the speed of obedience, and as long as you move with the speed of community and covering, then you’ll never be off, and even when you are off a little bit there will be grace because your heart is to be in this lane.”
• 12:20 – Banning’s new book – The Three Mile Walk:The Courage to Live the Life God Wants for You
• 12:43 – Family moments during quarantine
• 14:34 – Dad hacks to stay connected to the kids traveling
• 15:01 – “My kids are going to sacrifice for who I am and and the call on my life, but they also need to benefit and be blessed from that.”
• 15:54 – “Whatever you do, like what I do to provide for the family has some cost involved, but I also want to make sure that there’s blessing involved and that my kids are connected to it..make sure blessing is connected to the sacrifice as well and that it’s not just sacrifice, it’s not just that dad’s gone.”
• 18:07 – A story of trusting God with his kids
• 20:59 – “At the end of the day, what we know is this: any area of my life that has blessed, any area of my life that has wisdom attached to it, any area of my life that has fruit attached to it, it’s because other people have joined me in it.”
• 22:03 – “When I stand before God one day, [He’s going to say] I didn’t just require your best, I require your best and the best of these people I put around you, so when it comes to father I think the reality is our best ins’t good enough – that’s really never meant to be good enough.  It’ snot just my best I’m bringing to the is equation, it’s my best and it’s the best of…these men that pour into my life, that walk with me, that then allows me to be a good father.”
• 22:46 – “When I allow myself to be isolated, when I allow myself to be independent, when i allow myself to think that I just should be able to do this on my own and I don’t need anybody speaking into my life or challenging me or encouraging me, well I just want to say that your best isn’t good enough…God didn’t set it up that way.”
• 23:09 – “God didn’t set it up where…it’s just you and nobody else, you just give it your best. He’s like, I put a whole family around you and I’m bringing those strengths into your life so that you can accomplish what I’ve asked you to accomplish and raise these kids.”
• 23:26 – “There’s not one area of my life that hasn’t been touched by the strength of other and that’s why it has a measure of success to it.”
• 23:38 – The Three Mile Walk:The Courage to Live the Life God Wants for You  – Banning Liebscher
• 25:47 – “Those that are fully alive are the ones that are fully engaged to the call of God to be and to do.”
• 26:51 – “If you’re listening to this podcast I can only imagine then that you have a desire to be a great father. Being a great father takes a massive amount of courage…facing the things you have to face internally, looking at your weaknesses and trying to grow, saying God I want to be more patient…but if I’m going to be who God’s called me to be as a father, it requires me to be encouraged.”
• 28:10 – Reinhardt Bonnke’s book, “Living a Life of Fire”
• 30:51 – When I had my first kid, I realized the greatest think I’ll ever do with my life is raise this kid, and it’s the hardest thing I’ve ever done hands down. Hands down being a dad is the hardest thing I have ever done and it has challenged me in ways I didn’t even know I could be challenged. It is scary, it is vulnerable, it is raw, and by far the best thing I’ve ever done and the greatest legacy I’ll leave.”

Links

• Jesus Culture
• Reinhardt Bonnke’s book, “Living a Life of Fire”
• The Three Mile Walk:The Courage to Live the Life God Wants for You  – Banning Liebscher

Links from dadAWESOME:

• https://dadawesome.org/life/
• Make a Donation to dadAWESOME
• Join the dadAWESOME Prayer Team
• https://dadawesome.org/tour/

In this episode of The Ferment, Adam and James Moscardini continue the “Leading Better Worship” series with a conversation about raising up leaders. James shares about the importance of knowing the people in the room you’re leading and the songs they need to be singing each week, how to lead people who are more skilled or talented in certain areas than you, and the role of healthy competition in a worship community.

James Moscardini is an Associate Pastor at Vineyard Church of North Phoenix. James was born in Reading, UK, and moved to Phoenix in 2010 to work as a part-time assistant at VCNP after an internship there in 2009. He is a worship leader, multi-instrumentalist, and producer. James is the producer for LoFi Vineyard and has appeared on many Vineyard Worship albums (Cultivation Generation: My Foundation, This is Your Kingdom Come Now, I Love Your Presence, etc.). He has a passion for helping people reach their full potential in the calling that God has placed on their lives. He currently holds the VCNP record for the number of pizza slices eaten in one sitting at Peter Piper Pizza. More than anything, he loves his wife, Samantha, their two kids, and Chelsea F.C..

The Life of the Mind with Caleb Maskell is the first in our PASTORING WORSHIP series. In this episode of The Ferment, Caleb and Adam talk about the discovery process that the new national team is moving through and how it is shaping the future of Vineyard USA. Caleb also talks about the beauty of embracing reality as Bible people, how the life of the mind has been woven into the Vineyard since the beginning, and how it relates to rich encounters with the Holy Spirit. Caleb and Adam discuss expanding our understanding of what a theologian might look like and lastly, Caleb leaves us with a word for worship leaders. 

Caleb Maskell is the Associate National Director of Theology and Education for Vineyard USA. Born in London, he immigrated with his family to New Jersey in 1986, at the age of nine.

Caleb has been involved in leadership in the Vineyard movement for twenty-five years. After spending a gap year at the Toronto Airport Vineyard School of Ministry in 1995, he went to the University of Chicago to study theology, philosophy, and literature in the interdisciplinary undergraduate Fundamentals program. While there, he joined the core planting team of the Hyde Park Vineyard Church, where he served as a worship leader, a small group leader, a setter-up of chairs, and whatever else Rand Tucker asked him to do.

After college, full of questions that had emerged from the beautiful collision of serious academic study and the practical realities of church planting, Caleb enrolled in the M.Div. program at Yale Divinity School. For four years, he immersed himself in the study of theology, church history, and scripture, while also leading worship and working with middle school and high school youth groups.  After graduating in 2004, he worked for three years as the Associate Director of the Jonathan Edwards Center at Yale University.

In 2007, along with his wife Kathy and their friends Matt and Hannah Croasmun, Caleb planted Elm City Vineyard Church in New Haven, Connecticut. That year, he also began a Ph.D. program at Princeton University, focusing on the history of American religion, with an additional emphasis in African-American Studies. After moving to Manhattan for four years while Kathy went to seminary, the Maskells ended up in suburban Philadelphia, where Caleb completed his Ph.D, while teaching regularly at Princeton Theological Seminary, and serving as the Worship Pastor at Blue Route Vineyard Church.

Since 2010, Caleb has led the Society of Vineyard Scholars, which exists to foster and sustain a community of theological discourse in and for the Vineyard movement. Caleb is passionate about developing leaders and institutions that will help to produce a healthy, courageous, and hospitable future for the church in the twenty-first century. Caleb and Kathy now live with their two kids, Josiah and Emmanuelle, in the heart of Denver, where Kathy pastors East Denver Vineyard Church.

Show Notes:

The Other Half of Church by Jim Wilder

https://amzn.to/3sHmFpC

John Wimber in Christianity Today, 1997, “God’s Wonder Worker”

https://bit.ly/3ChsCfK

We could not be more pleased to introduce you to "We Are Vineyard", a brand new podcast by Vineyard USA with conversations to help us grow in life with Jesus and each other, hosted by National Director Jay Pathak! Check out the first episode right here with special guest Phil Strout, the former National Director for Vineyard USA. You can catch new episodes every Wednesday and hear from leaders inside the Vineyard as well as authors and leaders outside the Vineyard!

In this episode of We Are Vineyard, Jay and Phil discuss “Equipping the Saints”…where this principle comes from biblically, what it means, and how you do it. They also talk about the vital role of mentors in a leader’s life, share personal stories of pursuing the mentors who have shaped them and cared for their souls, and subsequently how they have learned to recognize leadership on those coming up behind them.

For several years, Phil served in the Vineyard on the board of directors for Vineyard USA, as a Regional Leader, and as the Senior Pastor of Pathway Vineyard Church, a multisite church based in Lewiston, Maine. He has also done extensive work in church planting around the world, especially in Latin America, and along with his wife, Jan, is bilingual (English/Spanish). Phil is the author of God’s Relentless Pursuit: Discovering His Heart for Humanity and Thrive: How to Successfully Navigate the S-Turns of Leadership. He brings a non-hyped, down-to-earth, passionately authentic spirit and vision to leading the Vineyard Movement in its divine assignment.  Phil and Jan have been married since they were teenagers and have two kids, 6 grandkids and 2 great-grandkids.

Show Notes:

We Are Vineyard Podcast with Jay Pathak
https://vineyardusa.org/podcast/

Faithwalking
https://faithwalking.us/

Reason for God by Tim Keller
https://amzn.to/3GWztMQ

Walter Ciszek
http://www.ciszek.org/About_Ciszek.html

Paul Anleitner is the Worship Pastor at the First Evangelical Free Church in Minneapolis, MN and host of the Deep Talks podcast - Exploring Theology and Meaning-Making. Prior to joining the staff at First Free, he enjoyed 15 years of vocational ministry experience in a variety of roles and denominational settings. He has had the privilege over the years of being not only a Worship Pastor in the Assemblies of God, Evangelical Covenant Church, and now the Evangelical Free Church, but has also taught theology and biblical studies courses in Christian high schools, directed parachurch ministries, and recorded & released original music. Paul loves reading theology, exercising and watching or playing basketball. He is married to the girl of his dreams, Keri, and they have 3 kids.

In this episode of The Ferment podcast, Paul and our host Adam Russell have an incredibly nuanced conversation about the way symbols and the meaning we ascribe to them create stories that shape our worldview. Coming on the tail of January 6th and the insurrection at the US Capitol Building, Paul and Adam discuss the mixed symbolism of nooses and Confederate flags displayed alongside “Jesus Saves” signs and the way that mirrors the present state of Christianity and politics in our nation. As the layers are peeled back, Paul and Adam dive into spheres of psychology and theology, examining the symbolism within our church buildings and worship songs, and the effect the convergence of culture and subcultures has on shaping the narrative of our nation, our worship experience, and our lives.

Show notes

Deep Talks Podcast
https://deeptalkstheologypodcast.podbean.com

The Ferment Podcast – Paul Anleitner 5.26.19
https://bit.ly/3980Pl6

Eddie Espinosa is a well-known Vineyard veteran and pioneer in the modern worship movement. Eddie was featured on numerous recordings through the years including groundbreaking original two vinyl records from Vineyard Ministries International - "All The Earth Shall Worship" and "He Is Worthy To Be Praised" both releasing in 1982. Eddie's song include "You Are The Mighty King", "Worthy Is The Lamb", and the global worship classic and era-defining "Change My Heart O God". Despite being known as a songwriter and worship pastor, Eddie spent most of his professional career in public education as a teacher, counselor and administrator. Eddie and his wife live in Southern California and have two children.   

In this episode of The Ferment, Eddie shares his story of being called into a life with Jesus and growing into a worshiper who is known as one who writes love songs to the Lord. He reflects on the early days at the Anaheim Vineyard and how they were marked by hunger and desperation for God, and shares the three things he believes bring the presence of God in worship. This is a very tender episode that overflows with a love for the Lord that is only cultivated in first-hand experience of His goodness and grace.  

Show notes:
Change My Heart, O God by Eddie Espinosa
https://youtu.be/DwudqCO7mSQ

Eddie’s interview with the Calvin Institute
https://bit.ly/3dx2Zf5

Phil and Jan Strout are the National Directors for Vineyard USA.  For several years, Phil served in the Vineyard on the board of directors for Vineyard USA, as a Regional Leader, and as the Senior Pastor of Pathway Vineyard Church, a multisite church based in Lewiston, Maine. He has also done extensive work in church planting around the world, especially in Latin America, and along with his wife, Jan, is bilingual (English/Spanish).

Phil is the author of God’s Relentless Pursuit: Discovering His Heart for Humanity and Thrive: How to Successfully Navigate the S-Turns of Leadership. He brings a non-hyped, down-to-earth, passionately authentic spirit and vision to leading the Vineyard Movement in its divine assignment.

Jan is a passionate leader in the church today. As a gifted exhorter and teacher, she has earned the title, “The Queen of Encouragement.” She has served nationally on the Vineyard Women’s Task Force with the heart to empower women for leadership, ministry, and life. Jan is an effective communicator and has taught Spiritual Formation, Prayer, Evangelism, and Missions in Portland’s E3 Leadership Institute.

Phil and Jan have been married since they were teenagers and have two kids, 6 grandkids and 2 great-grandkids.

In this episode of The Ferment, Adam joins Phil and Jan at their farm in Maine to hear their story of coming to faith as teenagers, marrying young and heading out to the international mission field. They also talk about the value of soul care and share three prophetic illustrations that have grounded them in the pursuit of a contemplative life. Finally, Phil and Jan share about transitioning the role of National Director and the word the Lord gave Phil about “intersections” that has been guiding the Vineyard through this recent season of change. This is a rich episode full of wisdom and inspiration for leading a life faithful to the Lord.

Show notes:
The Quest for the Radical Middle: A History of the Vineyard by Bill Jackson
https://amzn.to/38l7NSz

Socials:
Instagram @thefermentpodcast
Twitter @fermentcast
TikTok @vineyardworship

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Zack Curry

Zack Curry is the Lead Pastor at Jesus Culture San Diego. Zack experienced a significant move of God in high school that marked his life forever. His passion is to see love released on campuses and see schools transformed by God. For the past 15 years Zack’s ministered to high school and college students, raising them up as leaders heading into all areas of society to see cultural transformation. He is passionate about community and family. He believes healthy people and thriving relationships are the true measure of success. He leads from a desire to see lives and cities transformed by an encounter with Jesus. Zack and his wife Melissa delight in their three wonderful daughters.

60-Day Fitness Challenge

• Join the dadAWESOME MURPH on Saturday, February 12th, 2022
• WHY? Winter is an easy time to step back and take it easy. We are challenging dads to get stronger this winter.
• WHAT? We are launching a 60-day MURPH training plan leading up to Saturday, February 12th, 2022
• WHEN? It starts this week and the actual event can be on or around Saturday, February 12th.
• WHERE? Anywhere. Your basement, gym, playground, RV or wherever you can find open space and a pull-up bar.
• HOW? We will support you through a SLACK group with a professional athletic trainer creating workout plans and answering your questions. (we will send you an invitation to SLACK after you register)
• DIFFICULTY LEVEL? You can do a 1/2 MURPH or FULL or add the weight of your kids to make it harder. Here's the standard challenge started specifically to honor Navy Lieutenant Michael Murphy, who was killed in action in Afghanistan on June 28th, 2005:

  1 mile run
  300 air squats
  200 pushups
  100 pull-ups
  1 mile run

• KIDS JOINING ME? We are adding a gamification system to encourage you to include your kids in the actual February 12th, 2022 workout challenge. Place them on your back or on your shoulders... Strap on your baby to add some weight for the pull-ups. Invite your kids to run or bike along with you on your two 1-mile runs.

JOIN the 60-Day Challenge

Show Notes:

• Episode 83 - https://dadawesome.org/episode83/
• 6:21 - "For me, as a father, it's prioritizing that role, this sacred role, privilege of being a father"
• 7:21 - "This is a sacred call, an honor. And to you have to prioritize it"
• 8:41 - "one of my indicators and the lights that come on for me is when I get frustrated or angry"
• 10:56 - "as a dad, I care for my kids deeply and I'm in scenarios where I actually don't know what to do. So I feel out of control. And so then my default is frustration"
• 18:58 - "We love the concept of adventure. But I think for a lot of us in our own lives, the unknown can paralyze us and keep us where we know we're safe, we have control..."
• 20:36 - "we could just sit here all day and tell stories of why do we believe God's real? Because we've seen it in our life over and over when we couldn't do it in the big and the small way?"
• 22:07 - "we want to do it for them or fix it or solve it when you know we can actually help guide them through and say, Hey, OK, is that is that true? Is like, what is God say about that? And then like, Hey, we're like teaching them to bring it to God, invite God and teach them to say, OK, yeah, it is impossible from you can't do it. But what would happen if God helped you like? Then it becomes these, you know, like in the Old Testament, where you have these memorial stones that you build and say, Oh, OK, and you're and you're along their journey teaching them to say, Hey, remember when God did this for you? Not for me? They're watching us. But you're like, Maybe when you did that for you, that's a memorial stone in your journey. Look back..."
• 23:40 - "one of the values for me with my daughters is to be connected to their heart. So like, so they feel I just want them to always be able to talk to me"
• 25:22 - "teaching them to dream a little bit bigger, not just settle with, OK, yeah, what? What's the truth? What does God say"
• 27:06 - "we did this challenge. There were four parts to it. We said, Hey, we want to build a rhythm of adventure, which is like taking care of our soul for us individually and for us, for our kids. We're like, Hey. So it's kind of broken up into a weekly, monthly, quarterly and then yearly."
• 27:30 - once a week, go on an adventure
• 27:48 - monthly, go do an overnight or full day type of activity
• 28:05 - quarterly is like planned, like an adventure that is substantial
• 28:13 - a once a year epic kind of trip
• 33:56 - "this is probably my philosophy on parenthood. And, you know, as a dad is just invited to be a part of it. So we just we were outside of a need, you know, for anything healing provision, any of those areas we teach our girls that God is good, that he's powerful, that he you know, he. He's alive and moving like these are truths that are true in every season. Good, bad, hard..."
• 37:21 - do the work to grow, to go deeper... Don't run away from the hard things or not to label it as failure or yourself is failure. But listen, we have this is the kingdom of God."
• 38:13 - "Don't run away from it. Dive into that because in it, your pain, your weakness actually...Paul said that his power is made perfect and our weakness"

Episode Links:

• Jesus Culture San Diego
• https://jesusculture.com/podcasts/show/man-camp/
• https://dadawesome.org/strong/
• Make a Donation to dadAWESOME
• Join the dadAWESOME Prayer Team
• https://dadawesome.org/tour/
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Conversation Transcript

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Eleanor Mumford and her husband John play a significant leadership role within the Vineyard family of churches, both in the UK and overseas. They worked for two years with John Wimber at the Anaheim Vineyard in California before starting the SW London Vineyard in 1987. They handed over the leadership of that church in 2008 and served as National Directors in the UK and Ireland until 2015. They now focus on the continued development and momentum of the international Vineyard family. Eleanor and John have two grown sons, two beautiful daughters-in-law and 4 grandchildren.

In this episode of The Ferment, Eleanor shares her origin story and the power of a praying roommate. She also talks about her husband’s first interactions with John Wimber and their earliest days with the Vineyard movement, the profound impact of worship in their life and ministry, and their life more recently as international coordinators within Vineyard Global. Eleanor speaks about unity, equipping international leaders to care for their people and communities, and shares an encouraging word about staying close to the Lord during this hard season.

Show notes:
Vineyard Global:
https://vineyard.org

Socials:
Instagram @thefermentpodcast
Twitter @fermentcast
TikTok @vineyardworship

Jan Smith, dubbed Mama Jan by Usher, is the world’s premier vocal producer and instructor. She has over 30 years experience in the music industry as both an artist and a mentor. Mama Jan is a Grammy nominated producer and a Georgia Music Hall of Fame inductee. In addition to being a creative force for vocal excellence, Mama Jan is a visionary executive working across entertainment to reboot the music industry into an artist-driven business. As CEO of Mama J Music, she works tirelessly to fuse artist development, technology and music education into a successful career roadmap for all musicians.

In this live recording of The Ferment, Adam and Mama Jan talk about the instrument of the human voice: what it is exactly and how to care for it well. Mama Jan shares practical tips for worship leaders, pastors and other vocalists who use their voices more than most including warm ups and warm downs and why every green room should have a steamer. Her holistic approach to honoring the body as a gift we’ve been entrusted with is an inspiration to every person regardless of vocation!

Show notes:
Jan Smith’s Website
https://jansmith.com

Socials:
Instagram @thefermentpodcast
Twitter @fermentcast
TikTok @vineyardworship

Ryan Albrecht is a psychotherapist, husband, father and musician from Long Beach, New York. He has been serving at the Experience Vineyard Church in Rockville Centre for nearly a decade where he volunteers as a worship leader with his wife and worship director Elisha. It is there where his life transformed and he continues to experience life giving community, family, and encounters with God. Professionally Ryan is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker where he works with various mental, emotional, behavioral and spiritual health issues. Inspired by his own life experiences he is called to work with others to help heal from their trauma to realize lives that are full and unique to themselves. Ryan is also passionate about de-stigmatizing mental health in the church through sharing his story and professional insight to educate, equip, and train leadership.

In this episode of The Ferment, Ryan shares his story of leading a life of youthful rebellion after a series of traumatic events changed his course, and the way those decisions escalated into addiction, multiple overdoses and criminal activity. He also shares about the steady pursuit of the Lord, being drawn into community at a church and slowly turning his life over to the service of people. Ryan and Adam then chat about the need to mature emotionally as we are growing spiritually, and tending to the inner life. This is a powerful testimony of redemption and the goodness of God. 

Alan Franklin is a musician and music teacher, co-founder of MuzicNet School of Music in Park Forest and Chicago, IL, and the interim worship pastor at South Suburban Vineyard Church in Flossmoor, IL. He is a Chicago-native and one of twelve children. Alan and his siblings grew up singing and playing music in their parents’ church, and he has continued to be involved in worship ministry ever since. Alan has been married to his wife Terrilyn for 32 years and they have 4 daughters and one grandchild.

In this VSOW takeover episode of The Ferment, Mike O’Brien and Alan Franklin have a chat about musicianship, growing in music theory, and the value of taking music lessons even as a seasoned worship leader. Alan talks about learning to play music by ear in church and starting a music school in his brother’s basement after recognizing a need in his community. He also explains the “number system” and gives some practical suggestions for how to implement it in your worship team. Alan and Mike then talk about generational succession in our life together as a church, the role of elders, and the need for making space and room for kids to join the worship team.

Show Notes:

MuzicNet School of Music
https://www.muzicnet.net/about/

Vineyard School of Worship (VSOW)
http://Vsow.org

Socials:
Instagram @thefermentpodcast
Twitter @fermentcast
TikTok @vineyardworship

Calvin Rodgers is a Chicago native and drummer who has been credited with revolutionizing the voice of gospel drumming. His parents realized at a very young age that Calvin shared their love for music and an even stronger love for the drums in particular. Both parents worked very hard to invest as much as they could into their son’s promising future. Around the age of 9, Calvin began shadowing his father, a well-known gospel musician, and songwriter, as his personal drummer. This afforded Calvin the opportunity of learning from some of gospel music’s most prolific songwriters, artists, and musicians. By the time he entered high school, he was traveling with GRAMMY-nominated choir master Ricky Dillard & New Generation. Around the same time, he became a part of the Ravinia Jazz Mentors program, spearheaded by jazz pianist, Ramsey Lewis. Upon graduating high school, Calvin began touring with Lewis and learning his way around the studio. While recording a radio commercial for Rice A Roni, Calvin met R&B crooner, R. Kelly. Kelly invited Calvin to join his band for his upcoming world tour, TP2. Upon completion of that tour, Calvin decided to place his focus on becoming a recording drummer. He also began finding his voice as an arranger and a producer. With over 200 live/studio albums listed to his credit, he has also recorded and toured with artists such as R.Kelly, Ramsey Lewis, Aretha Franklin, Bob Dylan, Dionne Warwick, Destiny's Child, Ronald Isley,  Ernie Isley, Avant, Jonathan Butler, Kirk Franklin, Marvin Sapp, Fred Hammond, Yolanda Adams, Israel Houghton, Donald Lawrence, John P. Kee, Tommy Simms, Tamela Mann, and many, many others. Though quite accomplished, Calvin continues to push himself in all areas while making sure to sow into the next generation through mentoring and private lessons.
 
 
In this episode of The Ferment, Calvin and Adam talk about the church as a safe space to raise up musicians and the necessity of continuing to expose yourself to new styles and skillsets to become a well-rounded player. Calvin also gives some solid advice about bringing yourself humbly into unfamiliar gig environments so as to be in service to the songs and the intention of those who hired you while also offering what makes you unique.  The conversation touches on investing in upcoming players, staying true to your roots, encouragement for the Vineyard Movement, and Calvin’s personal fermentation process. You won’t want to miss it!