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    Explore " managing self" with insightful episodes like "070. Mastering a graceful AND effective leadership exodus: Ignacio Saiz", "067. Life after leadership: Sam Worthington, former President and CEO @ InterAction", "Skippy Cast 4: The Fear of Conflict" and "041. Rest, reset, resilience: how my mind journeyed when I took a sabbatical - Chris Proulx @ Humentum" from podcasts like ""NGO Soul + Strategy", "NGO Soul + Strategy", "It's Your Business Lead it" and "NGO Soul + Strategy"" and more!

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    070. Mastering a graceful AND effective leadership exodus: Ignacio Saiz

    070. Mastering a graceful AND effective leadership exodus: Ignacio Saiz

    Summary

    Leadership transitions are tricky -- and potentially risky -- moments in a nonprofit's life. What are the most common pitfalls or aspects that get overlooked when nonprofits -- and outgoing leaders themselves -- tackle such leadership transitions?

    What key strategies and tactics are essential to ensure a smooth leadership transition and maintain organizational stability?

    What are the habits, practices, and behaviors that are most aligned with a successful exit of an Executive Director?

    In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Ignacio Saiz,  who transitioned out of the Center for Economic and Social Rights (CESR) some 2 years ago, on the right way to do this.

     

    Ignacio’s Bio:

    • Senior Advisor on Human Rights, Economic Justice, and Strategic Leadership
    • Former Executive Director at the Center for Economic and Social Rights (CESR)
    • Ignacio also held various managerial and leadership roles at Amnesty International, including Director of Policy Programs, Deputy Director for the Americas, and other roles

     

    We discuss: 

    • How planned transitions should be seen as an opportunity
    • Written transition plans help in avoiding miscommunication, and in allocating clear roles and responsibilities for how to deal with the transition, while clarifying the timeline as well
    • A comprehensive communication strategy is vital: outwards (towards donors/funders, peers/partners), as well as inwards (towards staff, board, advisory councils, volunteers etc.)
    • Participation of staff is vital. One mechanism can be representation of 1-2 staff in the Board recruitment committee, as long as the organization is  very clear though about staff's decision rights vis-a-vis  the selection of the successor 
    • Outgoing leaders often underestimate the anxiety that may occur among staff and some board members -- especially if their  tenure has been long
    • Whether the outgoing leader plays any role in the organization beyond their tenure is a very tricky and highly contextualized  decision, and needs to be carefully negotiated between the outgoing and incoming leaders. Most importantly, this must be completely steered by the needs and preferences of the incoming leader.

     

    Quotes:

    • “Boards need to realize top leadership transition involves more than a recruitment”
    • “Planned leadership transitions should be seen as a shared opportunity, not a cause for concern”
    • “Transition takes at least two years, and has to include the transition-in period when the incoming leader needs active support”

     

    Resources:

    Ignacio’s LinkedIn Profile

    Ignacio's blog post on the matter (note links at the end to two good additional resources)

     

    YouTube video of this podcast

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    067. Life after leadership: Sam Worthington, former President and CEO @ InterAction

    067. Life after leadership: Sam Worthington, former President and CEO @ InterAction

    Summary

    What is life after leadership like?

    What happens to you as a person when you leave a high-powered, highly visible role in civil society?

    What happens with your sense of identity? Does this also perhaps touch on ego as well?

    What offers new meaning and purpose, when we live our life-after-leadership?

    In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Sam Worthington, former President and CEO at InterAction, who stepped down from a position with much positional as well as symbolic power just about a year ago. 

     

    Sam’s Bio:

    • Executive coach, board member and advocate
    • Former President and CEO of InterAction – 16 years
    • Former President and CEO of Plan International USA
    • Executive Director at Delphi International

     

    We discuss: 

    • In the months before you leave your leadership job, expect that the extent to which your colleagues still want you to make decisions on important things will rapidly decline
    • In Sam’s case, the sense of loss that was involved was not about loss of power (since he’d experienced positional power  for a few decades),  but was about loss  of the comradery that former colleagues and peers used to provide
    • You can partially fill this void by offering (informal) coaching to new incoming CEOs for instance.
    • Life after leadership does mean you can move more from doing to being; you can be more present now
    • Sometimes leaders, once they retire, still are called to speak in global gatherings based on their reputation, their personal brand
    • Our knowledge which we can still contribute now is the synthesized wisdom of decades of experience
    • Sam is writing a book to look back on everything he learned, his views on the sector, and what gives him hope -- follow him on LinkedIn to stay tuned!

     

    Quotes:

    • “The transition is about having been the village chief before; now, I am no longer in the village”


    • “My public persona never was my identity”

     

    Resources:

    Sam’s LinkedIn Profile

    Book David Brooks, From Strength to Strength

    Essay by David Brooks in The Atlantic: The New Old Age (gated)

     

    YouTube video of this podcast

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    Skippy Cast 4: The Fear of Conflict

    Skippy Cast 4: The Fear of Conflict

    In this cast I invited you to schedule a 30 minute conflict strategy call with me. If you want to do this, please be ready to maximize the value of our time together. Here are some questions to use in preparation

    what is a leadership conflict situation we can examine?

    Is this conflict task, process or interpersonal?

    What actions did you take when faced with the conflict? 

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    041. Rest, reset, resilience: how my mind journeyed when I took a sabbatical - Chris Proulx @ Humentum

    041. Rest, reset, resilience: how my mind journeyed when I took a sabbatical  - Chris Proulx @ Humentum

    Summary

    What happens when NGO leaders take a 4 months sabbatical? 

    What happens to the mind -- what journey does it go on during a 4 month's rest from work?

    What happens, especially when we are talking about a leader who was already quite steeped in mindfulness and meditation before he started his sabbatical?

    In this podcast episode, I discuss with Chris Proulx, Global Director at  Humentum the topic of rest, reset, reflection, and personal resilience when leaders take an extensive break from work.

     

    Chris’s Bio:

    • Global Director at Humentum, the global network of NGOs that strengthens  operational excellence through community building, training, consulting services, and policy-influencing work
    • Former President and CEO at LINGOs
    • Former CEO of e-Cornell - Cornell University's e-learning platform

     

    We discuss: 

    • Resilience is not helped when we do not dare to rely on the help of others, even in the presence of a great team
    • What is the art of ‘doing nothing’? At first, anxiety about the empty space.
    • To what extent is the notion of time an illusion?  
    • How leaders spend their attention is precious.  Most of us spend it quite poorly.  
    • How organizations can create more opportunities for sabbaticals, as part of a benefits package, even when you are not huge. 

     

    Quotes

    My mind was not ready to rest in the first few weeks after starting my sabbatical; I was not yet able to pull back the mind

    I at first still kept scheduling, trying to stay in control mode, I was still crossing things off my to-do list”

    It took a while to really be able to listen to what bubbled up in the mind”

     

    Resources:

    Chris’s LinkedIn

    Chris’s Twitter

    Chris’s Website

    Humentum page


    Five Oaks Consulting School's Online course on Virtual Team Leadership skills


    Youtube video of this podcast


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