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Ross and Bryce share their first impressions of the House Oversight Committee's national security subcommittee hearing on UAP. Whistleblower David Grusch was joined by two former military pilots who reported UAP years ago. Ross and Bryce say it was a big day - the first of what they hope will be more to come. The witnesses deferred several questions to a closed-door hearing, and Ross tore into the Defense Department for its "statement" on whether DoD has any evidence of non-human intelligence. They also noted Grusch's phrase "administrative terrorism" in describing some of what he's gone through since coming forward. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is a Members-Only episode that takes deep dive into the unknown caverns of America. Over the course of the show, we have had many guests share second-hand information on Deep Underground Military Bases (DUMBs) and the vast networks of caverns and caves that traverse the subterranean spaces beneath the United States. These dark places are subjects most people would rather not talk about. This exclusive interview is a personal account from someone who's been in these spaces and had frightening and mind-bending encounters with creatures that sound like they're written into a sci-fi movie. We present this mostly unedited so you can feel the heaviness of the testimony. Keep and open mind and continue to send us your stories.

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intro song: Dark Skies by Timecop 1983