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    Explore " the sales doctor" with insightful episodes like "Chet Lovegren: The Prescription for Successful Selling", "Episode 255: Chet Lovegren AKA The Sales Doctor - Fueling Performance…not just Participation", "S3 Ep11: Research or no research before a cold call", "S3 Ep10: Handling Brush-Off Objections with Chet Lovegren" and "Engage the 3 Types of Employees: Builders, Maintainers, and Departers with Chet Lovegren" from podcasts like ""Conversational Selling", "Sales Leadership Podcast", "Hopp On Calls", "Hopp On Calls" and "In the Club by Club Colors"" and more!

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    Chet Lovegren: The Prescription for Successful Selling

    Chet Lovegren: The Prescription for Successful Selling

    About Chet Lovegren: Chet Lovegren is the Founder & Head Sales RX'er of The Sales Doctor, a company that helps clients prevent their revenue bleed from archaic training, coaching, and implementation practices. After working for 7+ years as an individual contributor, Chet started The Sales Doctor in 2020 as a way for salespeople and sales leaders to take a 'prescriptive' approach to diagnose and solve problems in their go-to-market strategy. Since then, he's helped companies raise over $100M in VC Funds and seen over 125 professionals perform at their best, get promoted, and achieve their true earning potential. His foundations and teachings are a combination of his 11+ years in the go-to-market space, both as a seller and leader. Check out the latest episode of our Conversational Selling podcast to learn more about Chet.

    In this episode, Nancy and Chet discuss the following:

    • Importance of prescriptive approach in sales
    • Comparison of sales strategies to medical diagnosis
    • Significance of onboarding for new sales reps and managers
    • Use of technology in improving hiring processes
    • Importance of measuring performance and engagement
    • Strategies for identifying and nurturing future leaders
    • Advice on managing and leading sales teams

    Key Takeaways: 

    • 90% of what I do is an aggregate of all the information I've taken in, eaten the fish, and spit out the bones.
    • Try a lot of things and see what works best for you.
    • The forgetting curve: within 30 days, we forget 87% of what we learned.
    • Empathy does not mean a lack of accountability.
       

    "I like to use the idea of prescriptive because if you're a doctor and you are doing it right, it's not a one-size-fits-all all. And the best doctors who have done the most critical work in saving lives have dug deep into the core problems, not solving for symptoms. But why are these symptoms happening? Because you think about if you have a fever, you're gonna have similar symptoms as if you have a cold, their shared symptoms across certain problems or diagnoses, right? And my favorite saying is a doctor who provides a diagnosis without examination is guilty of malpractice. I think many LinkedIn gurus do this, but many sales teams do it for their opportunities and customers. And if we want to be transparent, honest, value-driven salespeople, let's walk the walk and not just talk the talk. And so, you have to dig deep into what's the problem that my customer thinks they have, what's the problem I know they have because I'm the subject matter expert, what's the gap in that way of thinking, and how can I get them to think, not understand my point of view critically? You know, we're in politics season, and I'm sure everybody's watching all these debates going on." – CHET

    "Yeah, I think one of the best ways to do this is with software. I'm not one to typically plug software, but there's a tool called Yardstick. Founder Lucas Price has built this incredible tool that helps increase the collaboration between hiring managers, department heads, and maybe individual contributors who are also interviewing people for the role and helps them collaborate in real time so that they have a foundation once that new hire starts to be able to go back and measure, do we have who we thought we had? This way, you can essentially know who you have faster, know if they're the person you hired, and if they're not, work with your HR team to get them out of the seat and get somebody in who will be. Because that's the unfortunate thing." – CHET

    "I'm okay accepting no when making 50 cold calls a day. You want to make 20 cause that's what's comfortable for you, and you can do that because you're sending more video messages and doing much more personalized email outreach, and it works for you; that's great. Cause I have another rep who can't convert anything via email, but they're fantastic on the phone. And so, I say, if it's working for you, prioritize that. Do we want to try to upscale you on cold email writing? Sure, but if you're booking 20 appointments monthly to make a hundred cold calls a day, I'm not opposed to that. You're hitting your number, which might be what you're good at. And so, I do want to make you better at cold email writing if there are gaps that I recognize, but there's a whole bunch behind that with email deliverability that might've also happened with that gentleman. So, I think it'd be okay with no, but expect why. And remember that empathy does not mean a lack of accountability; you're not a bad person if you want to instill some accountability in your process. Still, you must pull back the books, use a data-driven leadership model, and show people why accountability is in place. And don't manage to the bottom 20% of people who don't want to be at your org anyway. Stop making rules and things that they must follow. Make rules and processes and accountability for the 80% because all you do when you're reactive, and you manage to the bottom 20% is the other 80% of people that want to be there feel like they're getting squeezed out and they quit, and they go take $5,000 a year to work somewhere else." – CHET

     

    Connect with Chet Lovegren:

    Try Our Proven, 3-Step System, Guaranteeing Accountability and Transparency that Drives RESULTS by clicking on this link: https://oneofakindsales.com/call-center-in-a-box/
      

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    Episode 255: Chet Lovegren AKA The Sales Doctor - Fueling Performance…not just Participation

    Episode 255: Chet Lovegren AKA The Sales Doctor - Fueling Performance…not just Participation
    Chet Lovegren is known by many as “The Sales Doctor.” He works with sales leaders and sales teams worldwide shaping a fresh, modern approach to every part of the sales ecosystem. His approach to engineering systems that fuel performance has made him a go-to resource for sales leaders, leading venture capital teams, and top organizations around the world. Today Chet joins the show to discuss how sales leaders everywhere can create intentional performance without turning to more of the grind. You can connect with Chet on LinkedIn here (https://www.linkedin.com/in/chetlovegren/). You can subscribe to Chet’s Newsletter here (https://thesalesdoctor.ck.page/salesrxnewsletter). You can follow Chet’s Podcast, the Founder’s Formula, here (https://www.linkedin.com/company/foundersformulapodcast/). For video excerpts of this and other episodes of the Sales Leadership Podcast, check out Sales Leadership United on Patreon Here (https://www.patreon.com/SalesLeadershipUnited).

    S3 Ep11: Research or no research before a cold call

    S3 Ep11: Research or no research before a cold call

    On today's episode of The Call Guys Podcast, we're still on the cold call hype train with Kevin, Ronen, and Chet Lovegren, the Founder of The Sales Doctor. While waiting for calls to go through, they talk about double dials, when is the best time to cold call, and crafting personalized messages after a call when you have to reach another person from the same company.

    HIGHLIGHT QUOTES

    Why your connect rates are higher at a certain time - Chet: "It's all causation and effect. It's because you're making the most cold calls in that time period. When we had tools that we could look at that, that was exactly the same I go "Wow, we have a 14% connect rate at this time." And then "Oh, look we made 5 times as many cold calls in that hour than we do any time of the day.

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    S3 Ep10: Handling Brush-Off Objections with Chet Lovegren

    S3 Ep10: Handling Brush-Off Objections with Chet Lovegren

    On today's episode of The Call Guys Podcast, Chet Lovegren, the Founder of The Sales Doctor, joins our host duo to jump on calls. They catch a few prospects and eventually end up at a learning point on what to do during the first 10-15 seconds of the call and you get met with an objection.

    HIGHLIGHT QUOTES

    You can always weave through the first rejection - Ronen: "Sometimes they'll give you a little bit of window to just get in there and just to ask an additional question or pitch a little bit. People are legitimately busy but typically any objection you hear in the first 10-15 seconds is a brush-off objection. Brush-off objections are the kind of objections that we get usually because of how we sound."

    Find more about Chet Lovegren:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chetlovegren/
    • Website: https://www.thesalesdocrx.com/

    Connect with The Call Guys:

    More live conversations mean more? You know the answer. Connect to your prospects in one click and go outbound effortlessly with ConnectAndSell!  https://connectandsell.com/

    Hone the craft of outbound sales at Cold Calling 101:

    https://coldcalling101.podia.com/cold-calling-101


     

    Engage the 3 Types of Employees: Builders, Maintainers, and Departers with Chet Lovegren

    Engage the 3 Types of Employees: Builders, Maintainers, and Departers with Chet Lovegren

    On this episode of the In the Club Podcast by Club Colors, we feature Chet Lovegren, the Founder of The Sales Doctor, Host of The Sales RX, and The Founder's Formula Podcasts. Today, Chet digs into how leadership styles fundamentally differ between Boomers, Gen X-ers, Millennials, and now Gen Z.

    Chet describes the 3 types of employees: Builders, Maintainers, and Departers. Each type plays a role in the company, but the goal is to concentrate 80% on the top 20%, which comprises Builders and Maintainers. As for the Departers, Chet says to either move them up to become a Maintainer or move them out.

    Leaders need to engage with each employee type differently. John shares his own Highlighter Method while Chet talks about the environments in which Builders and Maintainers excel. Chet also shares his 5-5-5 Rule that instills good leadership within a culture and gives his insights on better communication, building brand advocates, and helping SaaS companies grow their sales teams.

    As always, stick around for the Hot Iron with JMo where we find out about Chet's dream to advertise at SaaStr and his thoughts on what the moon really is! 

    HIGHLIGHT QUOTES

    Defining the Builder - Chet: "In any company, there are 3 types of employees. There's Builders, there's Maintainers, and Departers. Builders are your day ones, they're the people that are going to build with you, they're going show up early, they're going to put in the extra effort."

    Do NOT punish Builders to deal with Departers - Chet: "Stop spending 80% of your time on the bottom 20% of people because what ends up happening, and I see this all the time is you turn into what's called a reactive leader where somebody at the bottom, it's one of your departers, does something that either ticks you off or hurts your number or gets your boss to talk down to you, or whatever that might be, and then you go implement this wild accountability rule that you're builders are like, dude, I'm doing my job."

    Reps who don't perform well are a reflection of their leaders - Chet: "The sad truth is everything about your reps has to do with you as a leader. And so if you have people that are experiencing symptoms that are bringing them down, it's your inability to give them a clear-cut vision. I think leaders do such a bad job of tying things to personal goals. Even if I'm a Maintainer, I have a goal."

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    S2 Ep12: How to Position the Meeting with Chet Lovegren

    S2 Ep12: How to Position the Meeting with Chet Lovegren

    This episode of Hopp on Calls with Kevin Hopp is the last part of the conversation with Chet Lovegren aka The Sales Doctor. A common objection for people is to say they can’t take your call as they’re about to step into a meeting. There are ways to overcome this, as Kevin and Chet demonstrate today. They also discuss why you should try to get a meeting on a cold call, even if it’s a bad time for prospects to buy—and it’s not because you simply want to sell your product or service.

     

    QUOTES

    To overcome the common objection that the prospect is about to step into a meeting, Kevin says, "When do people have meetings, Chet? On the hour and on the half-hour, right? Very common objection, when you catch somebody near the half hour or the hour, super common is, ‘Oh, I'm about to step into a meeting. I can't talk right now.’ Right? So what did I do there? Did you catch it? It was subtle. I said, ‘Hey, I have a meeting in four minutes, so let's get this done before then.’"

    Push for a meeting on a cold call because, as Kevin says, "Let's establish some form of back-and-forth so we're not ice-cold anymore. So it's always valuable to set this meeting and to build your network of people who are prospective buyers for your stuff, even if you're not gonna buy right now."

     

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    S2 Ep11: How to Get Gatekeepers to Trust You with Chet Lovegren

    S2 Ep11: How to Get Gatekeepers to Trust You with Chet Lovegren

    This episode of Hopp on Calls with Kevin Hopp is the first part of the conversation with Chet Lovegren aka The Sales Doctor. Kevin and Chet reach out to prospects who were either guarded by gatekeepers or were not very curious about their service. Chet shares his technique to gain the trust of gatekeepers while Kevin shares how being friendly is the key to gaining others' curiosity.

     

    QUOTES

    On telling a gatekeeper the prospect 'has my number,' Kevin says, "Wow. That's a really good way to instantly sound very credible and kind of build that close relationship with the gatekeeper right out the gate. I like that. I like that a lot. Wow. Never heard of that one."

    By using a friendly tone to get prospects curious about you and your product, Kevin says, "The more friendly your tone, the more the prospect is going to think and they're gonna stop and they're gonna be like Do I know you? Do I know you? And I want them in this state of mind of going, “Huh, Kevin, Kevin, Kevin, Kevin. Hmm. I know a Kevin. I don't know a Kevin at Uncommon Giving. I don't know what Uncommon Giving is.” I want their brain very curious."

     

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