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    Explore " water in the west" with insightful episodes like "“Wisdom In Patience” - The Re-Emergence Of Glen Canyon", "Recycling (river) Water in Southern California", "3: Drought management tools and market solutions for unprecedented times with Kate Fitzpatrick", "2: Intro to buying and selling water rights with Jamie Morin" and "1: Why I launched Western Water Market" from podcasts like ""In Site", "The River Radius Podcast", "Western Water Market Podcast", "Western Water Market Podcast" and "Western Water Market Podcast"" and more!

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    “Wisdom In Patience” - The Re-Emergence Of Glen Canyon

    “Wisdom In Patience” - The Re-Emergence Of Glen Canyon

    We’ve podcasted about the Lake Powell Pipeline, so we thought, as the drought continues and water levels continue to drop, let’s go have a look. We told our board about the idea and it turns out that board member Catherine Smith rafted the Colorado River through Glen Canyon as a teenager in 1955. We were so pleased that she insisted on coming along. We included David Petitt, a well-known photographer now painter, and of course, our producer and host Logan, his wife Angie, and our assistant producer Ben.

    The level when we took our trip in May was only 1/4 full at 3523 feet – just 33 feet above the minimum power pool of 3,490 feet, or where there’s not enough water to run the power generators. Dead pool is 120 feet lower, at 3,370 feet. Because the lake dropped about 40 feet in 2021 they have been releasing 500,000 acre-feet from Flaming Gorge to delay that moment of truth.

    But the big picture is that Lake Powell is really only of value to generate power, tourist economy aside. So if it drops below minimum power pool, then evaporation and rock-saturation coefficients start to play in. If preserving water is the sole priority, why expose all this surface area and let it seep into the sandstone? It starts to look like better water sense to send as much water as possible to Lake Mead. It’s an immense, critical set of decisions the water lords have to make in the face of the harshest drought in 1200 years, and due to climate change, looking like the new normal.

    Now suddenly the Glen Canyon Institute — premised on draining the lake and revitalizing the river and deemed “looney” by Utah Senator Orrin Hatch — is gaining prominence, with Director Eric Balken finding himself in interviews in the New Yorker. At the end of the episode, we interview him too so he can help us make sense of our observations of both beauty and tragedy inherent in Glen Canyon’s re-emergence.

    As we explored the re-emerging canyon, we also looked for Ancestral Puebloan evidence. Having found little, we reached out to Erik Stanfield, an archaeologist with Navajo Nation. You’ll his voice about halfway through the episode. 

    Our trip begins with a long walk down temporary ramps as Bullfrog Marina continues to have to move deeper and deeper into the canyon as water vanishes.

    Recycling (river) Water in Southern California

    Recycling (river) Water in Southern California

    For many decades water has been recycled after it runs through sewage treatment plants in cities large and small in many states and countries.  That recycled water is used for landscaping and industrial cleaning.  Today with decreasing access to imported river water, the Metropolitan Water District of Southern California has built a test facility to further clean treated waste water to the standards of drinking water.  The plan is to learn how to do this so the water looks great and is completely safe, then return it to the drinking water system.  Essentially by reusing water, they are creating a new water source for their customers.  With decreasing flows in the rivers that deliver water to Southern California, this project is lining up to offset these losses, and can provide data and models for other cities to engage in the similar practices.  Metropolitan Water provides water to 19 million humans through their 26 partner agencies, the cities and counties of Southern California.  Join us for an onsite tour of the plant.  


    WEBSITES
    Metropolitan Water District of Southern California

    Regional Recycled Water Advanced Purification Center
     

    INFORMATION ON PLACES, INFRASTRUCTURE, ACTIONS AND POLICY
    Southern California

    Colorado RIver

    Sacramento River

    Sacramento Source to Sea river expedition

    State Water Project

    Colorado River Aqueduct

    Owens Valley

    Colorado River Compact


    BOOKS
    Cadillac Desert

    Science Be Dammed

     

    ARTICLES (just a few, there is a lot of media on water in the Southwest this year)
    LA Times:  ‘Unrecognizable.’ Lake Mead, a lifeline for water in Los Angeles and the West, tips toward crisisCBS This Morning

    KUNC:  Colorado River Basin Reservoirs Begin Emergency Releases To Prop Up A Troubled Lake Powell

    CBS This Morning:  Mega Drought in the West
     

    RIVER RADIUS PODCAST
    Related Episodes, link here

    "Mile 0 Sacramento River Source to Sea"

    "The Returning Rapids of Cataract Canyon 2021"

    "The Silty Byproduct of Lake Powell"

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    3: Drought management tools and market solutions for unprecedented times with Kate Fitzpatrick

    3: Drought management tools and market solutions for unprecedented times with Kate Fitzpatrick

    Drought in the West has gone from bad to the worst.  While conservation and market reallocation of water rights aren't a panacea, they are two of the most valuable tools we have to make the most of our limited water supplies – and the Deschutes Basin is taking full advantage of them. 

    In our third episode of the Western Water Market Podcast, Kate Fitzpatrick with the Deschutes River Conservancy unpacks Central Oregon’s drought situation, including efforts to prepare for and respond to unprecedented years like this. 

    This isn’t just a model for the West – it’s a call to action.  If you can forgo irrigating with your water rights or irrigation district shares, there is a good chance someone is in need and will be interested in leasing them.  Tune in and learn more.  We’re here to help.

    [01:16] - About Kate Fitzpatrick and the Deschutes River Conservancy 
    [04:13] - About the Deschutes River Basin
    [08:47] - This year’s drought situation and relief in Central Oregon
    [17:01] - Preparing for and responding to drought: conservation and water marketing
    [40:07] - “If you can’t measure it, you can’t manage it. If you can’t manage it, you can’t fix it.”
    [42:05] - Three think Central Oregon irrigators should know and consider
    [47:31] - Kate’s recommendations for the Klamath Basin and the greater West

    RESOURCES

    LET'S CONNECT

    2: Intro to buying and selling water rights with Jamie Morin

    2: Intro to buying and selling water rights with Jamie Morin

    Water rights attorney Jamie Morin with Confluence Law, based in Washington state, gives us an intro to buying and selling water rights and buying and selling property with water rights, including key considerations, from explicitly retaining your water rights before a property sale to relinquishment concerns and more. This is one you don't want to miss.

    [3:03] - What is a water right?
    [5:19] - Who owns the actual water?
    [6:13] - Limits and attributes of a water right
    [7:30] - How do I know if I have a water right?
    [7:55] - Different forms of water rights
    [8:15] - How does someone know if they need a water right?
    [9:01] - Is the state still issuing water rights?
    [10:47] - Selling a water right (the transaction)
    [12:21] - Reserving water rights before selling property
    [13:54] - Who is buying water rights?
    [17:00] - Buying a water right and making a change to a water right
    [24:20] - Buying property with water rights - what to be aware of
    [32:38] - Emerging activities in Washington

    Please note, water rights are complex and nothing in this episode is meant to be considered legal advice.  To get the support that you need, visit westernwatermarket.com to search and work with a water right professional in your state.

    RESOURCES:

    Work with Jamie Morin:
    https://www.confluencelaw.com/

    Washington Water Rights Map Search:
    https://ecology.wa.gov/Regulations-Permits/Guidance-technical-assistance/Water-rights-search

    Washington State Trust Water Rights Program:
    https://ecology.wa.gov/Water-Shorelines/Water-supply/Water-rights/Trust-water-rights

    Water right buyers on Western Water Market:
    https://app.westernwatermarket.com/?category=water-right-buyers

    Work with a water right professional in your state:
    https://app.westernwatermarket.com/?category=water-right-professionals

    SUBSCRIBE (and never miss a market update):
    https://westernwatermarket.com/subscribe

    LET'S CONNECT:

    Contact Jamie Morin:
    https://www.confluencelaw.com/

    Contact Kristina:
    https://westernwatermarket.com/contact

    Kristina on LinkedIn:
    www.linkedin.com/in/kristina-ribellia

    Western Water Market on LinkedIn:
    https://www.linkedin.com/company/western-water-market

    Western Water Market on Facebook:
    https://www.facebook.com/westernwatermarket

    Western Water Market on YouTube:
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGru9sk3gqoAqtCci2F3A_A

    1: Why I launched Western Water Market

    1: Why I launched Western Water Market

    Kristina Ribellia, founder of Western Water Market and host of the Western Water Market Podcast shares two key insights as a former water right buyer in Washington state that led her to launch WesternWaterMarket.com, "The place to buy, sell and lease water in the West" in early 2020.

    [0:36] - Laying the foundation; background on Kristina
    [2:19] - First insight
    [4:11] - Second insight
    [5:06] - Why I wasn’t comfortable with increasing regulation
    [7:12] - What I thought we needed instead
    [7:56] - Launching Western Water Market

    SHOW NOTES:
    https://westernwatermarket.com/podcast-episode/01

    RESOURCES:

    Western Water Market:
    https://westernwatermarket.com/

    Work with a water right professional in your state:
    https://app.westernwatermarket.com/?category=water-right-professionals

    "Wall Street spends millions to buy up Washington state water":
    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/environment/wall-street-spends-millions-to-buy-up-washington-state-water/

    SUBSCRIBE (and never miss a market update):
    https://westernwatermarket.com/subscribe

    LET'S CONNECT:

    Contact Kristina:
    https://westernwatermarket.com/contact

    Kristina on LinkedIn:
    www.linkedin.com/in/kristina-ribellia

    Western Water Market on LinkedIn:
    https://www.linkedin.com/company/western-water-market

    Western Water Market on Facebook:
    https://www.facebook.com/westernwatermarket

    Western Water Market on YouTube:
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGru9sk3gqoAqtCci2F3A_A



    Is the Water Wet? - Lake Powell Pipeline Part 3 with Jane Whalen

    Is the Water Wet? - Lake Powell Pipeline Part 3 with Jane Whalen

    Having created historical context for the pipeline in two previous podcasts, In Site now explores the pipeline itself.  Jane Whalen, board member of Conserve Southwest Utah and Coordinator of the Lake Powell Pipeline Coalition, was the primary architect of their collective, incredibly thorough and detailed one hundred and eighty-six page objection to the pipeline (see link below).  Quite simply, nobody involved with the pipeline understands it better than Jane. 

    We focused on the pipeline because the Zion Canyon Mesa intends to actively participate in critical issues directly facing our home here in Washington County.  In these strange, unmoored and disturbing times, it seems that part of the problem is we simmer too long in disconnected online ethers, then break into reality off kilter, and with increasing violence.  We believe that rooting firmly in our chosen landscapes and communities will provide an immediate level of stability and sanity, and suggest a path forward as well.

    We prioritized the pipeline issue because it was one of about sixty projects nationwide that the Trump administration placed on their Fast Track.  This greatly compressed some review processes and outright dismissed others; approval seemed imminent.  

    However, that suddenly and utterly changed when the six other states of the Colorado River Compact  (see the previous podcast with Eric Kuhn) submitted a joint letter to Utah threatening lawsuits, saying there were any number of Compact issues needing resolution before even entering a Fast Track.  Utah’s two pipeline proponents, the Utah Department of Natural Resources and the WCWCD, responded by immediately withdrawing for at least two years to address the Compact concerns. To Jane’s credit, the issues she helped raise in the Coalition review match those expressed by the other Compact states, so our review here will touch on these comprehensive concerns.

    Finally, we want to act as an honest broker for respectful dialogue about such issues.  As such, this podcast was originally going to feature a dialogue between Jane and WCWCD representatives Zach Renstrom, General Manager, and Karry Rathje, their Communications & Government Affairs Manager.  We want to really thank them for their willingness to participate in this discussion.  However, recent events allow us all to step back and take a deep breath.  We hope that Zach and Karry will join us soon so they can speak for themselves.  

    At stake: do we, the citizens of Washington County, collectively want to invest perhaps $2Billion of our tax dollars into this project?

    Is The Water Wet? - Lake Powell Pipeline Part 2 with Eric Kuhn

    Is The Water Wet? - Lake Powell Pipeline Part 2 with Eric Kuhn

    Eric digs into how politicians ignored drought data to create the 1922 Colorado River Compact, and how that intentional myopia continued for almost a century.  Today, the entire basin must finally reckon with what has been true all along; that the allocated water just is not there.  He busts two foundational myths along the way, one about the science and data, and the other about water use.  He then situates the Lake Powell Pipeline (LPP) into the present moment of truth, setting the stage for our next, perhaps final podcast about the LPP itself.  

    We say “perhaps,” because if this story continues to unfold as dynamically as in the last couple weeks, we will need another podcast later to keep up.  To wit: ALL the other basin states just signed a letter threatening court action unless Utah commits to resolving key LLP issues through the Compact itself, per the agreement. Utah responded by asking the Bureau of Reclamation to extend the deadline for their environmental study, giving everyone more time and breathing room. This steps the LLP back from President Trump’s “Fast Track,” which he has conferred on about sixty other projects nationwide, including Washington County’s Northern Corridor Highway.  Stay tuned…

    Eric Kuhn is the co-author of Science be Dammed: How Ignoring Inconvenient Science Drained the Colorado River. He was General Manager of the Colorado River Conservation District (CRCD) for twenty-two years.  The CRDC is a government entity formed in 1937 which oversees Colorado River basin issues for the state.  

    He is also author of any number of papers about Colorado River water use and law, including an excellent piece linked in our Show Notes about the crux, upcoming 2026 Compact summit.

    Eric Kuhn

    1922 Colorado River Compact

    Inkstain Blog

    Science Be Dammed: How Ignoring Inconvenient Science Drained the Colorado River by Eric Kuhn and John Fleck

    The Colorado River

    Imperial Valley

    All American Canal

    Image from space

     Rivers of Empire by Donald Worster

     Pat Mulroy and the “Valentines Day Massacre” for Las Vegas water - (the “Massacre” bit is about ¾ the way down, but the whole article is worth reading)

     Royce Tipton

     2007 Interim Agreement - Record of Decision and American Rivers Article

    2019 Drought Contingency Plan

    Testing the Drought Contingency Plan

     2026 Colorado River Compac