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This challenge gets ugly as we slowly realize we've just become zombie slayers. We load Linux on three barely alive systems, and it takes a turn we didn't expect.

This challenge gets ugly as we slowly realize we've just become zombie slayers. We load Linux on three barely alive systems, and it takes a turn we didn't expect.

The stories that kept us talking all year, and are only getting hotter! Plus the big flops we're still sore about. Special Guest: Kenji Berthold.

The stories that kept us talking all year, and are only getting hotter! Plus the big flops we're still sore about.

Coming up in this episode * Leo makes me a LUSsh 🍻 * Official standings for a browser * We strum some reverberations * Focus on the HQ * Focus on the sounds * Forecast the future Watch the video! https://youtu.be/-b1gHt0v4q8 Timestamps 0:00 Cold Open 2:05 Go to lus.sh 8:38 Fed Up with Ubuntu? 14:20 * Forced Snaps 21:24 * Ads in the Terminal 27:00 * Telemetry?! 29:42 * Ubuntu is Anti-Freedom? 32:21 * Maybe use Linux Mint 34:43 Browser Watch 34:57 * The Vivaldi Flatpak 39:49 * Vivaldi on iOS 42:54 * iOS May Go WebKit Free 47:53 Reverb Focus 48:05 * Ian 53:13 * Dan! 58:26 * TeamLinux01 1:03:16 Community Focus: SteamDeckHQ 1:10:54 Gentoo Focus #5 1:23:46 Next Time: Gnome History 1:26:54 Stinger lus.sh (http://lus.sh) .sh is a common Shell Script file extension .sh is the first two letters in "show" like its bigger domain name brother .sh is also the first two letters in "short" Announcements This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 Why Do We Still Use Ubuntu? TLDR we(Leo and Dan) don't mind some of the choices Ubuntu has made but we can appreciate that there are good alternatives for those that want to go a different way. More Announcements Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Browser Watch! Vivaldi on Flatpak is Officially Unofficial Vivaldi Flatpak on Flathub (https://flathub.org/apps/com.vivaldi.Vivaldi) OMGUbuntu coverage (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/11/vivaldi-web-browser-flathub) Vivaldi is also on iOS Vivaldi is on iOS (https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-browser-launches-on-ios/) It has great features (https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-ios-6-4/) The Chromium devs are developing a Blink version for iOS (https://www.macrumors.com/2023/02/04/google-working-on-browser-that-would-break-rules/) Firefox devs are developing a Gecko version for iOS (https://www.macrumors.com/2023/02/07/mozilla-developing-non-webkit-version-of-firefox/) Housekeeping Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) Reverb Focus Ian comments on YouTube about Ed You can see the comments on this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUCuzkKGHos) Dan commented about Xfce history, Manjaro and KDE Plasma You can watch our Xfce history on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyI3pMqjQvo) Or TILvids (https://tilvids.com/w/6gFtNH1XywyFNd3heKHFro) TeamLinux01 wants to hear about Valve's Linux journey Thanks for the feedback. I think this might just be the push we needed to look into the history of Steam and Linux. We're both big fans so it makes sense. Community Focus - Steamdeck HQ (https://steamdeckhq.com/) Main Website - Steamdeck HQ (https://steamdeckhq.com/) Steamdeck HQ YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCI49gT5yWGP7fLn2ql-DlgA) Steamdeck HQ on Mastodon (https://mastodon.world/@steamdeckhq) Gentoo Focus Last time on LUS Streaming Live (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkyVxGRY9XYDGw82_Sg8Z9HL_X4fI9_r1) FYI we do these live on Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) the day after an episode is released. Next Time We plan to explore and provide the history of Gnome Desktop Environment (https://www.gnome.org/). Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Co-Producer Tim GrouchyM(New Member🎉) Super User A.J. Advait CubicleNate Eduardo S. Hausken Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas Nick sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer Tobias

Coming up in this episode * A little Musing on CDE * A few answers from the man himself * The history of XFce * How it went * And a new journey 0:00 Cold Open 1:29 Ask Olivier 20:04 Xfce History: In the Beginning (1996) 22:08 Enter XFce (1997) 24:47 The XForms Problem (1998) 25:56 The Third (1999) 29:32 The Fourth (2001-2015) 32:59 The Third, Again (2016-2023) 36:22 More Questions! 45:50 How'd Xfce Go? 1:02:25 Next Time 1:09:45 Stinger You can also watch on Youtube https://youtu.be/-tuDFBMJsxE Announcements This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 The History of Xfce Olivier Fourdan posted a question (https://www.linux.co.cr/desktops/review/1997/0218.html) to a few newsgroups that got things started. XForms toolkit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XForms_(toolkit)) An early release announcement - 2.3.0 (https://www.linux.co.cr/desktops/review/1999/0110-a.html) Changelog for 2.4.0 (https://www.linux.co.cr/desktops/review/1999/0317-b.txt) which shows changes all the way back to the beginning. XFce 2.4 User Guide (https://www.linux.co.cr/desktops/review/1999/xfce-2.4/en/index.html) XFce 3.2 User Guide (https://www.linux.co.cr/desktops/review/1999/xfce-3.2/help.html) 2000 Interview - 10 Questions with Olivier Fourdan (https://web.archive.org/web/20001017144724/http://www.linuxorbit.com/features/interview1.php3) 2001 Interview (https://web.archive.org/web/20010603075344/http://www.moongroup.com/stories.php?story=01/05/01/0821338) XFce 4.0 announcement September 25th 2003 (https://web.archive.org/web/20031002123938/http://www.xfce.org/en/press_release_en.html) xfce goes all lowercase (https://web.archive.org/web/20040607035013/http://www.xfce.org/index.php?page=news⟨=en) 2007 Interview (https://web.archive.org/web/20070116201506/http://linuxgazette.net/issue43/jacobowitz.xfce.html) 2009 Linux Journal Interview (https://www.linuxjournal.com/magazine/xfce-third-man) 2009 Slashgear Interview (https://www.slashgear.com/xfce-creator-talks-linux-moblin-netbooks-and-open-source-0633329/) 2017 Interview with Sean Davis (https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/interview-xfce.html) Xfce 4.4 - 4.18 (https://xfce.org/about/news) More Announcements Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Housekeeping Catch all the great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord or Lemmy. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) Next Time Some topics and feedback. Our next history exploration is the Gnome Desktop Environment (https://www.gnome.org/). Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Co-Producer Tim Super User A.J. Advait CubicleNate Eduardo S. Hausken Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas Nick sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer Tobias

Pre-Show A very reasonable discussion on HN around the WTF Happened in 1971 (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37482646) website, the world is complicated, there are many ways to interpret history and the present, none are particularly satisfying News Binance.US cuts third of staff as CEO Brian Shroder leaves (https://cointelegraph.com/news/binance-us-cuts-third-of-staff-ceo-brian-shroder-leaves-report) Binance.US, the United States arm of the crypto exchange, has cut around a third of its staff — or 100 positions — with its president and CEO Brian Shroder also departing the firm. Binance.US Statment to CoinTelegraph: “The [Securities and Exchange Commission’s] aggressive attempts to cripple our industry and the resulting impacts on our business have real-world consequences for American jobs and innovation, and this is an unfortunate example of that.” They also say "not dead yet!" “more than seven years of financial runway” amid its move to becoming a crypto-only exchange. Cool post on the Japanese bitcoin community (https://stacker.news/items/250544), I knew wiz and Arthur Hayes hang out in Japan, but would love to incorporate the bitcoin scene into a trip there Fortress Lost Customer Funds Prior to Acquisition by Ripple (https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/fortress-lost-customer-funds-prior-to-acquisition-by-ripple/) The Fortress Trust security breach (https://web3isgoinggreat.com/?id=fortress-trust-breach) is a fiat story, its not scary or exciting, just predictable with the ancient messy tech stack that U.S. corporate financial IT demands Economics Is an introduction to U.S. debt collection (https://www.bitsaboutmoney.com/archive/the-waste-stream-of-consumer-finance/) economics? It's certainly historical, and it speaks to the fragility of legacy financial agreements when compared to the on chain assurances of bitcoin Altcoins 1 of the 2 'OneCoin' founders has been sentenced (https://www.theblock.co/post/250564/one-coin-co-founder-sentenced-to-20-years-and-fined-300-million) for his role in a crypto themed Multi-level marketing ponzi scheme There is a podcast (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-missing-cryptoqueen/id1480370173) Brian Armstrong 🛡️ on X (https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/1701806701853507886) Bitcoin Education Bitcoin optech includes movement on tarot assets (https://bitcoinops.org/en/newsletters/2023/09/13/) on lightning, another client side validated protocol Feedback Remember to get in touch bitcoindadpod@protonmail.com or @bitcoindadpod (https://mobile.twitter.com/bitcoindadpod) on twitter Consider joining the matrix channel (https://matrix.to/#/#bitcoin:jupiterbroadcasting.com) using a matrix client like element (https://element.io/get-started), details here (https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/community/matrix/) Boosts Notes: https://Tokyocitadel.com https://hardblock.com.au Thank you Boosters If you get some value from this show, please consider sending a boost. Hearing from you means a lot to us! Send a Boost via the Podcast Index web page. No Podcast app upgrade required. Install Alby (https://getalby.com/) Find the Bitcoin Dad Pod on the Podcast Index (https://podcastindex.org/podcast/5049889) Boost right from the page! Send a re-ocurring or one-off lightning boost to the show with no message at bdadpod@getalby.com or directly to Chris at chrislas@getalby.com Value for Value Podcasting 2.0 to support an indepenent podcasting ecosystem (https://podcastindex.org/) Recomended Podcasting2.0 apps: Fountain (https://www.fountain.fm/) podcast app (Android) Podverse (https://podverse.fm/) (Cross platform and self hostable) + Alby (https://getalby.com/) for boosts Castamatic (https://apps.apple.com/us/app/castamatic-podcast-player/id966632553) (Apple) Sponsors and Acknowledgements Music by Lesfm from Pixabay Self Hosted Show (https://selfhosted.show/) courtesy of Jupiter Broadcasting (https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/)

We're trying out Rhino Linux—a unique take on rolling Ubuntu with AUR-like powers and other surprises.

We're trying out Rhino Linux—a unique take on rolling Ubuntu with AUR-like powers and other surprises.

Sometimes running the latest and greatest means you have to pave your own path. This week two examples from living on the edge.

Sometimes running the latest and greatest means you have to pave your own path. This week two examples from living on the edge.

A lot happened in the free desktop world this week, we cover the impressive releases, changes, and surprises.

A lot happened in the free desktop world this week, we cover the impressive releases, changes, and surprises.

It's the third annual Unplugged Tuxies; our community votes on the best projects, distros, desktops, and services of 2022.

It's the third annual Unplugged Tuxies; our community votes on the best projects, distros, desktops, and services of 2022.

Why we won't see a new Raspberry Pi until 2025, the first steps to Plasma 6 are being taken, and PipeWire gets a major Bluetooth upgrade.

Why we won't see a new Raspberry Pi until 2025, the first steps to Plasma 6 are being taken, and PipeWire gets a major Bluetooth upgrade.

5 Key Reasons to Consider Open Source Storage, OpenBSD Minimalist Desktop, BSD XFCE, Alpine Linux VM on bhyve - with root on ZFS, FreeBSD Jail Quick Setup with Networking, and more. NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines 5 Key Reasons to Consider Open Source Storage Over Commercial Offerings (https://klarasystems.com/articles/open-source-storage-over-commercial-offerings/) OpenBSD Minimalist Desktop (https://nechtan.io/articles/openbsd_minimalist_desktop.html) News Roundup BSD-XFCE (https://github.com/Wamphyre/BSD-XFCE) Creating an Alpine Linux VM on bhyve - with root on ZFS (optionally encrypted) (https://it-notes.dragas.net/2022/11/01/creating-an-alpine-vm-on-bhyve-with-root-on-zfs-optionally-encrypted/) FreeBSD Jail Quick Setup with Networking (2022) (https://www.shaka.today/freebsd-jail-quick-setup-with-networking-2022/) Beastie Bits EuroBSDcon videos are now up (https://www.youtube.com/c/EuroBSDcon/videos) LibreSSL 3.6.1 released (https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20221104064712) Raspberry Pi 4 with FreeBSD 13-RELEASE: A Perfect Miniature Homelab (https://www.coreystephan.com/pi4-freebsd/) AsiaBSDcon 2023 CfP (https://2023.asiabsdcon.org/cfp.html.en) Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. Feedback/Questions John - Allan's meetup (https://github.com/BSDNow/bsdnow.tv/blob/master/episodes/482/feedback/John%20-%20Allan's%20meetup.md) Matthew - atime and a question (https://github.com/BSDNow/bsdnow.tv/blob/master/episodes/482/feedback/Matthew%20-%20atime%20and%20a%20question.md) Valentin - Becoming a FreeBSD Developer (https://github.com/BSDNow/bsdnow.tv/blob/master/episodes/482/feedback/Valentin%20-%20Becoming%20a%20FreeBSD%20Developer.md) Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) ***

Is the Linux desktop hard to love? A long-time user experience developer argues it is, and we respond to his criticisms.

A fundamental change is coming to desktop Linux, and Silverblue might be our hint at where things are going.