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    #106: Photographing War & Conflict With Robert Nickelsberg

    enMarch 19, 2015

    Podcast Summary

    • A freelance photojournalist's journey to conflict zonesNicklesburg shares insights into the life of a photojournalist, the allure of conflict zones, and the concept of manliness from the Afghan people.

      Nicklesburg discussed how he got his start in the late 70s as a freelance photojournalist in New York City, learning the ropes and struggling to sell individual prints. He was drawn to conflict zones like Nicaragua and Afghanistan, not just for the thrill of adventure, but to record historical moments and publish them for the world to see. Nicklesburg spent a significant amount of time in Afghanistan before and after 9-11, and during that time, he gained insights into the concept of manliness from the Afghan people. Overall, this conversation offers a fascinating glimpse into the life of a photojournalist and the motivations that drive them to report from some of the most dangerous parts of the world.

    • Experiences in Afghanistan during the late 1980sWitnessed the intersection of conflicts in Afghanistan, including the Afghan War, Kashmir, and Sri Lanka, during the late Cold War era

      The speaker's experiences in Afghanistan during the late 1980s, a pivotal time in the Cold War, provided unique insights into the complex geopolitical landscape of South Asia. His first trip to Afghanistan in 1988, during the Soviet Union's withdrawal, was marked by uncertainty and danger. He attended a funeral in Jalalabad, where a violent explosion occurred, but he managed to maintain composure and report on the event. Despite the challenges, he was able to secure visas to return to Kabul and cover the historic withdrawal of the Soviet army. Throughout his time in Afghanistan, he witnessed the intersection of various conflicts, including the Afghan War, the Kashmir conflict, and the civil war in Sri Lanka. Overall, his experiences highlight the significance and complexity of the historical moment in Afghanistan and the broader context of South Asia during the late Cold War era.

    • Photographing in Afghanistan under Taliban: Caution and AdaptabilityUnder Taliban rule, photographing people was prohibited, leading to secret requests from Taliban members. Afghans had limited media exposure and took pictures mostly for special occasions. Post-9/11, the occupation of U.S. forces brought freedom and Americans were appreciated for absence of oppressive rules.

      Photographing in Afghanistan during the Taliban regime presented unique challenges. Although there was a desire for pictures among Afghans, strict guidelines prohibited photographing people. This hypocrisy led to secret requests for photos from Taliban members. Afghans had limited exposure to outside media, and taking pictures was mostly done for special occasions. Post-9/11, the occupation of U.S. ground forces brought about significant change. Afghans were thrilled to regain their freedom and were no longer restricted in their daily lives. They appreciated Americans and enjoyed the absence of the Taliban's oppressive rules. Overall, working as a photographer in Afghanistan under the Taliban required caution, adaptability, and a deep understanding of the local culture.

    • Respecting cultural customs prevents theftBeing culturally sensitive and aware can prevent misunderstandings and potential theft in foreign countries. Respect local customs and traditions to build positive relationships.

      Interacting with people in cultures different from your own requires sensitivity and awareness. The speaker shared an experience of having cameras stolen during a press conference in Afghanistan due to a lack of understanding of local customs. This incident highlights the importance of respecting cultural traditions and being cautious to avoid giving opportunities for theft. The speaker also mentioned that this behavior is not unique to Afghanistan, but is common in many countries in South Asia. Additionally, the speaker emphasized the importance of tipping and observing local customs to build positive relationships. In a different context, the speaker recommended trying Harry's for affordable and high-quality cartridge blade shaving. However, the main message of the discussion was the importance of cultural sensitivity and awareness to prevent misunderstandings and potential theft.

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    • Staying aware in unpredictable environmentsEffective situational awareness is vital in conflict zones and developing countries. Strategic parking, reliable drivers, and communication centers help, but the ability to adapt quickly is essential.

      Effective situational awareness is crucial when working in conflict zones or developing countries. This skill can be developed over time by getting to know the rhythm and unpredictability of the environment. Parking cars strategically, hiring reliable drivers, and being aware of communication centers are essential. Situational awareness is a must-have, and not having it can lead to being caught off guard. The ability to adapt quickly and juggle situations is essential, as the situation can change rapidly and unexpectedly. The unpredictable and ambiguous nature of these environments can be both challenging and rewarding.

    • Observing Afghan Pride and IndependenceIn Afghan culture, building trust and asserting masculinity are important values, with elders holding significant authority and women in a subordinate role.

      During the speaker's time spent in Afghanistan, they observed a strong sense of pride and independence among Afghans, with a focus on building trust and exerting masculinity within their communities. While there are differences between rural and urban areas, sensitive topics like family and women require great care and respect. Trust is established through formal introductions and over time, with relationships often starting off formally but leading to long-lasting friendships. In Afghan culture, elders hold significant authority and women are often kept in a subordinate role. This traditional gender dynamic can be compared to the way women are viewed as property in some European cultures, making it easier for men to assert their authority.

    • Understanding and respecting cultural norms in photojournalismMaster storytelling, perfect technical skills, do thorough research, be culturally sensitive, and have a strong work ethic for a successful career in photojournalism.

      Working as a photojournalist, particularly in cultures with traditional gender roles, requires cultural sensitivity and adaptability. Understanding and respecting cultural norms is crucial for building trust and telling authentic stories. For those aspiring to become photojournalists, mastering storytelling and perfecting technical skills are essential, but it's also important to do thorough research and be disciplined in your work ethic. Balancing a career in photojournalism with family life can be challenging, and it's essential to have a strong support system and work ethic to manage the stress and travel demands.

    • Emphasizing the importance of communication and strong relationships in long-term commitments.Successful photojournalist Robert Nicklesburg stresses the need for open communication and strong relationships, especially when work demands take him away from home for extended periods.

      Nicklesburg, a successful photojournalist with a focus on Afghanistan, shared that his work often takes him away from home for extended periods. He emphasized the need for open communication with partners about these demands and the importance of building strong relationships based on mutual respect. To learn more about Nicklesburg's work, check out his book "Afghanistan, A Distant War," available online and in bookstores, or visit his website, robertnickelsburg.com. Remember, dedication and commitment to your passions can lead to remarkable achievements, but it's essential to maintain open lines of communication and respect in personal relationships.

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