Logo
    Search

    Podcast Summary

    • The impact of exceptional minds on societyExceptional minds like Hunter S. Thompson's can inspire and provide valuable insights, but it's crucial to distinguish between inspiration and plagiarism.

      The influence of unique and exceptional minds, whether it be in literature or politics, can have a profound impact on society. Hunter S. Thompson's writing and perspective continue to resonate with audiences today, and his approach to understanding the rhythm and timing of great works, whether intentionally or not, has been a common practice among artists and comedians. However, it's important to acknowledge the distinction between inspiration and plagiarism. Nixon's use of Thompson's ideas during his 1968 campaign, as well as Melania Trump's plagiarism of Michelle Obama's speech, serve as reminders of the importance of originality and authenticity. Thompson's work, as well as the work of other influential figures, can provide valuable insights into the human condition and the world we live in. It's a reminder that, even in the chaos and uncertainty of the present, we can find meaning and understanding through the perspectives of those who came before us.

    • Investigating the manipulative tactics of corrupt administrationsJournalists like Hunter S. Thompson and Matt Taibi expose the ways administrations manipulate the media and limit access to journalists to hide serious crimes.

      Both Hunter S. Thompson and Matt Taibi are journalists known for their ability to dramatize the manipulative tactics of corrupt administrations, going back to Nixon's time. Thompson's work, such as his coverage of the Democratic National Convention in Chicago in 1968, showcased his investigative skills and willingness to challenge power. Taibi continues this tradition by examining how administrations manipulate the media. Nixon, like Trump, sought to limit access to journalists due to the potential exposure of serious crimes. The recent death of Jamal Khashoggi has raised concerns among journalists about the risks of speaking out against world leaders. Thompson's work, as documented in the book "Fear and Loathing in America," inspired the author to investigate Thompson's life and work, leading to the creation of a book that combines fact and fiction to explore Thompson's impact on journalism.

    • Violence halts conversations and disfigures those involvedViolence undermines communication and democracy, leaving individuals and society scarred. Instead, we should promote understanding, camaraderie, and peaceful dialogue.

      Violence undermines communication and democracy. The story of Hunter S. Thompson, a journalist who experienced physical violence during political protests, highlights the devastating impact of violence on individuals and society. Thompson's experience left him crying for weeks, unable to articulate a response. This incident shows how violence halts conversations and disfigures those involved. The ease of communication and information dissemination today makes it easier to coordinate violence, but the consequences remain the same. Instead of resorting to violence, we should promote camaraderie, communication, and finding common ground. Thompson's response was to seek alternative avenues within the system to effect change. Unfortunately, for some, like his friend Oscar Zeta Acosta, working within the system was not an option. The destructive effects of violence on dialogue and democracy should serve as a reminder for us all.

    • Use of provocateurs by law enforcement during civil rights movementsDuring civil rights movements, undercover agents infiltrated protests to incite violence, justifying lethal force and suppressing the movement. Local politics and grassroots activism played a significant role in Thompson's unsuccessful sheriff campaign in Aspen, Colorado, highlighting the contrast between hopeful idealism and current wealth and exclusivity.

      During the civil rights movements in the U.S., law enforcement agencies, such as the LAPD's Special Operations for Conspiracy, used undercover agents, or provocateurs, to incite violence among the protesters. This allowed the police to use lethal force to suppress the movement. Thompson's experience running for sheriff in Aspen, Colorado, during the 1970s illustrates the impact of local politics on daily life and the importance of grassroots activism. Despite his efforts to engage the youth vote and challenge establishment candidates, Thompson lost the election due to political maneuvering. The documentary following his campaign offers a glimpse into the hope and idealism of the time, contrasted with the current state of Aspen, where wealth and exclusivity have replaced the free community Thompson encountered.

    • Thompson's move to Woody Creek fueled his creativityThompson's escape to Woody Creek allowed him to write about counterculture, war protests, and Hells Angels, while his use of Dexidrine and editor's support brought his books to life. His legacy inspires us to find a productive space despite chaos.

      Hunter S. Thompson's move to Woody Creek, Colorado, played a significant role in his productivity and creativity. Despite the challenges he faced in the city, being in Woody Creek provided him with the space and freedom to write about his experiences with the countercultural scene, war protests, and the Hells Angels. Thompson's use of Dexidrine, an amphetamine, to help him work long hours was a common practice during that time, and his editor, Margaret Harrell, played a crucial role in helping him bring his books to life. The legacy of Thompson's work continues to inspire and resonate with readers, and his dedication to his craft serves as a reminder of the importance of finding a productive and creative space, even in the midst of chaos.

    • Thompson's work resonates with many during Trump's presidency due to parallels with his writing and current eventsThompson's writing about women was more nuanced than Mailer's, but they had a complex relationship. Thompson's work remains timeless and relevant in today's political climate.

      The Hunter S. Thompson documented by Gibney is an excellent introduction to understanding Thompson's enduring appeal, especially during the presidency of Donald Trump. Thompson's work resonates with many due to the parallels between his writing and current events. Norman Mailer, one of Thompson's influences, wrote powerfully about those with more power than him, but Thompson's writing about women was more nuanced. Thompson and Mailer had a complex relationship, with Thompson criticizing Mailer's portrayal of women. Mailer's writing about the violence during the 1968 Democratic National Convention was particularly poignant, as it foreshadowed Nixon's presidency. Despite their differences, Thompson and Mailer had a mutual respect for each other, as evidenced by their interactions at the Watergate Hotel in 1968. Overall, the Gibney documentary sheds light on Thompson's timelessness and relevance in today's political climate.

    • Hunter S. Thompson: More Than Just a ClownThompson was a serious political thinker and activist, exposing unjust foreign wars and the destruction of democratic ideals through his journalism.

      Hunter S. Thompson was more than just a clown or a cartoon character. He was a serious political thinker and activist who gave insight into the complexities of American politics. Thompson's experiences, including his conversations with Nixon's policy advisor, led him to criticize unjust foreign wars and the destruction of democratic ideals. Despite his later struggles with alcoholism, Thompson's earlier work as a journalist demonstrated his dedication and seriousness. It's unfortunate that his later persona overshadowed his significant contributions to political journalism. Thompson's ability to see beyond the surface of political figures, such as Nixon, and expose their true nature was a testament to his insight and bravery.

    • Thompson's Respect for Ali's Resistance and SacrificeThompson admired Ali's resistance during the Vietnam War era and appreciated his sacrifices, contrasting him with Trump's use of celebrity for power.

      Hunter S. Thompson saw Muhammad Ali as more than just a heavyweight boxing champion. He was a cultural icon and historical figure who represented resistance and sacrifice. Thompson admired Ali for giving up his prime years during the Vietnam War era, unlike Trump, who used his celebrity to gain more power. The Rumble in the Jungle fight between Ali and George Foreman was a significant moment, and Thompson missed it due to the stress and pressure of covering Nixon for a decade. Despite missing the fight, Thompson held immense respect for Ali's courage and beliefs. Thompson, like Ali, understood the wager between actions and results and appreciated the sacrifices people made for their convictions.

    • Hunter S. Thompson's Struggles with Fame and DemonsDespite personal struggles with alcoholism and the pressure of fame, Hunter S. Thompson revolutionized journalism by blending fiction and nonfiction and left a powerful commentary on American society.

      Hunter S. Thompson was a groundbreaking journalist known for his unique writing style, but he struggled with deadlines, alcoholism, and the loss of anonymity. During his early career, he was driven by the need to support his family and make a name for himself. However, as he gained fame and faced increasing pressure, his personal demons took hold. He became more famous than the people he covered, and the constant attention took a toll on him. Alcoholism, combined with the stress and pressure, ultimately led to his downfall. Despite his struggles, Thompson's voice and perspective continue to be relevant in today's troubling political climate. He pioneered a new form of journalism by blending fiction and nonfiction, and his work remains a powerful commentary on American society.

    • Thompson's unique narrative style in Muskie's campaign coverageThompson's meticulous reporting brought depth and intrigue to Muskie's campaign, humanizing political figures and elevating journalism as an art form.

      Hunter S. Thompson's journalistic style, as demonstrated in his coverage of Ed Muskie's 1972 presidential campaign, set him apart from his peers. Thompson's meticulous, step-by-step account of Muskie's whistle stop tour, including his encounter with Peter Sheridan, added depth and intrigue to the reporting. The Ibogaine story, though significant, took a backseat to Thompson's unique narrative style. This anecdote highlights Thompson's ability to humanize political figures and bring readers closer to the action, ultimately elevating journalism as an art form.

    • Challenging sensationalized media portrayals of Hells AngelsThompson gained trust by presenting honest accounts, contrasting media's exaggerations, leading to empathetic understanding, changing public perception, and paving way for gonzo journalism.

      Hunter S. Thompson's journalistic approach, particularly in his book "Hell's Angels," challenged the sensationalized media portrayals of the Hells Angels. Thompson gained their trust by presenting an honest account of who they truly were, which contrasted the media's exaggerated depictions. This led to Thompson spending time with the Angels and even enduring a beating at their rally when they felt he owed them more for his success. Thompson's empathetic understanding of their perspective, despite their inherent flaws and reliance on violence, was a significant aspect of his journalistic style. This approach not only changed the public's perception of the Hells Angels but also paved the way for gonzo journalism.

    • Hunter S. Thompson's writing on Hell's Angels reflects violent response to loss of American DreamThompson's immersive writing style captured the edge and raw emotion of the Hell's Angels, despite personal danger and negative consequences.

      Hunter S. Thompson's writing about the Hell's Angels in the 1960s reflects the violent response to the loss of the American Dream, which is similar to the violence we see today in groups supporting polarizing figures like Trump. Thompson's unique writing style, which involved immersing himself in the reality he was observing and forming arguments from that, was both dangerous and effective. Thompson's depiction of the Hell's Angels was raw, sympathetic, and accurate, despite the negative consequences he faced, such as motorcycle accidents and fights with his wife. The scene "Midnight on the Coast Highway" is a powerful example of Thompson's ability to capture the edge and the overwhelming feeling of being at the brink. Thompson's legacy is carried on by his second wife, Anita Thompson, who runs his legacy and the Facebook page.

    • Finding common ground with political adversariesThompson's ability to connect with individuals from all sides, including political adversaries, was instrumental in his journalistic success and remains a valuable lesson for understanding opposing perspectives.

      Hunter S. Thompson, despite his political differences with notable figures like Nixon, found common ground and learned from them. This is exemplified by their shared love for football and a conversation they had during a car ride. Thompson's ability to connect with individuals from all sides was instrumental in his journalistic success and remains a valuable lesson for understanding opposing perspectives. Another intriguing aspect of Thompson's life is his connection to Colorado. In the early 1960s, he made a stop in Aspen during a road trip and met Peggy Clifford, a journalist who became his friend. This encounter led him to move to Colorado later in the decade, where he continued his writing career. Thompson's open-mindedness and willingness to explore new places played a significant role in shaping his life and work.

    • Hunter S. Thompson's time in Aspen and Woody Creek shaped his journalistic careerThompson's dedication to meticulous research and note-taking for his books allowed readers to trust the accuracy of his work, but the unsustainable process took a toll on him.

      Hunter S. Thompson's time in Aspen and Woody Creek during the 1960s was pivotal in shaping his journalistic career. This is where he wrote "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" and experienced the JFK assassination. Despite the challenges he faced in San Francisco, he eventually returned to Woody Creek in the late 1960s and bought a farm. Thompson's meticulous research and note-taking for his books were essential to his writing style, but the intense process almost drove the author to exhaustion. The author spent hours each day researching and outlining with citations, and then wrote the narrative. This level of dedication allowed readers to trust the accuracy of his work, but it was unsustainable in the long term. Thompson's connection to Woody Creek and Aspen deeply influenced his writing and continues to inspire artists and writers today.

    • The Costs of Pursuing Creativity and SuccessJournalist Hunter S. Thompson's use of substances like Dexedrine and alcohol led to health and personal consequences, reminding us of the potential risks in the pursuit of creativity and success. The trend of using performance-enhancing drugs in journalism is also concerning.

      Hunter S. Thompson, a legendary journalist known for his bold and unapologetic writing style, struggled with the consequences of using substances like Dexedrine and alcohol to fuel his work. Despite the risks to his health and personal life, Thompson believed in living in the moment and wagered his time and energy for the sake of his journalism. His tragic downfall serves as a reminder of the potential costs of pushing oneself to the limit in the pursuit of creativity and success. Additionally, the use of performance-enhancing drugs like Adderall in the journalism industry is a concerning trend that Thompson himself acknowledged, as it can lead to addiction and detrimental health effects.

    • The danger of romanticizing self-destruction for productivityBe cautious of the allure of self-destruction for productivity, as it can ultimately harm your health and well-being. Focus on maintaining a healthy balance between work and rest instead.

      The drive for productivity and success, fueled by substances like Adderall, can be destructive to one's health and well-being. Hunter S. Thompson, a legendary writer known for his self-destructive lifestyle, understood this toxicity and warned against the romanticization of self-destruction. Thompson's work was brilliant until it wasn't, and he spent more time dealing with the consequences of his binging than the success. The effort to be rich or successful is not inherently good, and it can ultimately dismantle you. It's essential to remember this and take breaks to avoid the danger of overworking and relying on substances for productivity. Many writers and artists have done this, and it's a common situation in our society today. We should be wary of the allure of self-destruction and instead focus on maintaining a healthy balance between work and rest.

    • Thompson's intense passion led to a painful later lifeUse talents wisely, as Thompson did, to critique society and politics, but prioritize self-care to avoid the pain and deterioration seen in Thompson and Hemingway.

      Hunter S. Thompson's writing, fueled by his intense passion and dedication, allowed him to burn brightly but came at the cost of a painful and deteriorated later life. Thompson's struggle to articulate the chaos of the 1960s and 1970s led him to identify with the declining Hemingway, who ultimately took away his ability to communicate through suicide. Thompson's writing, particularly in his essay about Hemingway's suicide, beautifully captures the pain and sadness of this situation. The finite energy and effort we all possess remind us to take care of ourselves and use our talents wisely, as Thompson did in his critiques of American society and politics, particularly in the context of the Trump administration.

    • The intersection of the counterculture and the Hell's Angels in Hunter S. Thompson's workThompson's encounters with the Hell's Angels offer insights into the counterculture's complex relationship with the group, revealing surprising pacification during an acid-fueled party.

      Hunter S. Thompson's work, including his coverage of the Hell's Angels, serves as a unique historical record of a chaotic time before the internet. Thompson's encounters with the Angels, including an infamous acid-fueled party, offer insights into the counterculture's complex relationship with the group. Despite the danger involved, Thompson believed the Angels were fellow outsiders, and their use of LSD at the party surprisingly pacified them rather than inciting violence. Thompson's firsthand accounts, like in "Hell's Angels: A Strange and Terrible Saga," continue to fascinate readers and offer a lens into this intriguing moment in history. The intersection of the counterculture and the Hell's Angels, as depicted in Thompson's work, highlights the complexity and nuance of the time period.

    • Struggling with Accurately Portraying Disturbing EventsAuthors face challenges in conveying raw emotions of disturbing events without overwriting or exaggerating, requiring careful consideration of personal biases and cultural perceptions.

      During the writing process, the author struggled with the balance between accurately conveying the emotions of a horrific event and potentially overwriting or exaggerating those emotions. His friend criticized him for trying to explain Thompson's upsetness instead of just letting it stand. Thompson himself went back and took detailed audio notes to recreate the scene, which were later used by Tom Wolf in his book "Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test." Despite being there himself, Thompson also wrote about the experience in a more distant way in his own book "Hell's Angels." The author reflects on the complexity of accurately portraying the truth of such a disturbing event while also considering his own cultural perception and potential biases.

    • Understanding Thompson's Perspective on American FascismThompson's writing, particularly in 'Freak Kingdom,' leaves a lasting impression on readers with his unique perspective on American fascism. Denevi's book offers a fresh lens to engage with Thompson's work.

      Hunter S. Thompson's writing, particularly in his book "Freak Kingdom," leaves a lasting impression on readers. Thompson's ability to detail and capture moments in time, such as the departure of Nixon from the White House, is unparalleled. Tim Denevi, a Thompson fan and author, shares his admiration for Thompson and his work, emphasizing the importance of understanding Thompson's perspective on American fascism. Denevi's book, "Freak Kingdom," offers a unique lens through which to engage with Thompson's work, whether you're new to his writing or a longtime fan. To learn more about Thompson and his work, check out Denevi's book on Amazon, follow him on Twitter, or explore the various Thompson-related accounts on social media platforms like Instagram and Facebook. Overall, Thompson's writing continues to inspire and resonate with readers, leaving a lasting impact on those who engage with it.

    Recent Episodes from The Joe Rogan Experience

    #2170 - Max Lugavere

    #2170 - Max Lugavere
    Max Lugavere is a filmmaker, health and science journalist, author, and host of The Genius Life podcast. His debut film Little Empty Boxes is out now. http://littleemptyboxes.com www.maxlugavere.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    #2169 - Protect Our Parks 12

    #2169 - Protect Our Parks 12
    Shane Gillis, Mark Normand, and Ari Shaffir are stand-up comics, writers, and podcasters. Shane is the co-host of "Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast" with Matt McCusker and one half of the sketch comedy duo "Gilly and Keeves" with John McKeever. Watch his new comedy series, "Tires," and special, "Beautiful Dogs" on Netflix. www.shanemgillis.com Mark is the co-host of the podcasts "Tuesdays with Stories" with Joe List and "We Might Be Drunk" with Sam Morril. Watch his latest stand-up special, "Soup to Nuts," on Netflix. www.marknormandcomedy.com Ari is the host of the "You Be Trippin'" podcast. His latest comedy special, "Ari Shaffir: Jew," is available now via YouTube. www.arishaffir.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    #2168 - Tyler Fischer

    #2168 - Tyler Fischer
    Tyler Fischer is a stand-up comic, actor, and filmmaker. His latest special, "The Election Special | LIVE at Comedy Mothership," is available now via YouTube. https://youtu.be/FmvJjMGX7hw?si=PyOsFVH4as8HMHBD www.tylerfischer.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    #2167 - Noland Arbaugh

    #2167 - Noland Arbaugh
    Noland Arbaugh is the first human recipient of Neuralink’s brain-computer interface implant: an innovative new technology that allows him to control digital devices with his thoughts. Noland Arbaugh: https://x.com/ModdedQuad Neuralink www.neuralink.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    #2166 - Enhanced Games

    #2166 - Enhanced Games
    Christian Angermayer and Dr. Aron D’Souza are the co-founders of the Enhanced Games, an upcoming Olympic-style event that brings together the world’s top athletes to compete without arbitrary bans on performance-enhancing substances.  www.enhanced.org Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    #2165 - Jack Carr

    #2165 - Jack Carr
    Jack Carr is a bestselling author, retired Navy SEAL, and host of the “Danger Close” podcast. His newest book, "Red Sky Mourning,” is available now. www.officialjackcarr.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    #2164 - Action Bronson

    #2164 - Action Bronson
    Action Bronson is a musician, chef, painter, and author. Look out for his forthcoming album "Johann Sebastian Bachlava the Doctor'' and watch his series "F*ck, That's Delicious" on YouTube. www.actionbronson.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    #2163 - Freeway Rick Ross

    #2163 - Freeway Rick Ross
    Freeway Rick Ross is a former eighties drug kingpin who is now an author, motivational speaker, and community advocate. www.freewayrickyross.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    #2162 - Tim Dillon

    #2162 - Tim Dillon
    Tim Dillon is a stand-up comic, actor, and host of "The Tim Dillon Show" podcast. His latest comedy special, "Tim Dillon: A Real Hero," is available on Netflix. Look for his book "Death by Boomers: How the Worst Generation Destroyed the Planet, but First a Child" in 2024. www.timdilloncomedy.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    Related Episodes

    A World Cup and a Budget

    A World Cup and a Budget

    A football World Cup and a Budget, what better subjects could Mihir Bose, former sports news editor at the BBC, Sunday Times Economics Editor David Smith and political analyst Nigel Dudley wish for, to talk about?

    Let's just say, in a pub quiz if either of those subjects came up, you would want these guys on your team.

    Get in contact with the podcast by emailing threeoldhacks@outlook.com, we’d love to hear from you!

    Direct Democracy on Abortion, Trump’s Direct Threats Land In Court

    Direct Democracy on Abortion, Trump’s Direct Threats Land In Court

    Could more ballot measures be a remedy for partisan gerrymandering around the country? Plus, some legal analysis of former President Trump's direct threats. 

    On Today's Show:
    Kate Shaw, law professor at Cardozo Law School, ABC Supreme Court contributor and cohost of the Strict Scrutiny podcast, breaks down the latest legal investigations into Trump's business and political careers. 

    Christina Pascucci | KTLA Reporter & Anchor

    Christina Pascucci | KTLA Reporter & Anchor

    She's a familiar face on KTLA who dives with sharks, flies planes on her spare time, and recently joined an upcoming Netflix show.  But news reporter and anchor Christina Pascucci is not just another pretty face on TV: she's passionate about travel, serves her community through volunteering and someday hopes to run for public office. Hear about Christina's background, how she broke into the news business and how getting bullied when she was young affected her sense of confidence. You can follow her at @ChristinaPascucci.