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    145. Putin under threat as Wagner mutiny

    enJune 24, 2023

    Podcast Summary

    • Russia: Mercenary Army Challenges Military CommandYevgeny Prigozhin, a former criminal and Putin associate, is demanding the dismissal of senior military commanders and reportedly took control of a major Russian military base, marking the first instance of a mercenary army challenging state actor authority.

      There's been a significant development in Russia and Ukraine with the Wagner Group, led by a former criminal and Putin associate named Yevgeny Prigozhin, who is now demanding the dismissal of senior military commanders and has reportedly taken control of a major Russian military base. Prigozhin, who was once known as Putin's chef due to his past service at state dinners, has a history of conflict with defense minister Shoigu and armed forces head Kasparov. He's been critical of them publicly and has a large number of soldiers under his command. The implications of this power struggle are unclear, but it could represent the first instance of a mercenary army challenging the authority of a state actor, as predicted in Jacob Rees-Mogg's book "The Sovereign Individual." While the Russian military is much larger than the Wagner Group, Prigozhin's actions could signal a new trend in geopolitics.

    • Russia's military intervention in Ukraine and Poroshenko's address: Complex and volatile situationRussia's military intervention in Ukraine and Poroshenko's demands for Russian troops to leave have created a complex and volatile situation, with uncertainty over the loyalty of the mercenary army to Russia and potential consequences for both countries.

      The current situation in Ukraine, with Russia's military intervention and Poroshenko's address, has created a complex and volatile situation. Putin's address to the nation, where he denounced the actions as treason, has led to speculation and conspiracy theories in Russia. The Ukrainian army is reportedly taking a passive stance, while Poroshenko's demands for Russian troops to leave are met with resistance. There are rumors of a possible coup, with some suggesting that Prigozhin, the mercenary leader, sees himself as Putin's successor. The loyalty of the mercenary army to Russia is uncertain, adding to the instability. The media in Russia is reporting on the events, but the state media has not yet named Prigozhin. The overall situation is uncertain, with potential consequences for both Russia and Ukraine.

    • Tension between Russian Businessman and President PutinRussian businessman Konstantin Prokoshin, who runs a network of businesses, is seeking to reinvent himself as a general and criticizing Putin's defense minister and army chief, causing tension with Putin. Prokoshin's actions in strategic locations may distract Putin from the Ukrainian counteroffensive.

      During a recent meeting with Russian businessman Konstantin Prokoshin, it was apparent that there may be tension between Prokoshin and Russian President Putin, despite their close relationship in the past. Prokoshin, who runs a network of grocery stores, restaurants, and catering businesses, has taken up a role on the front line with his troops and is seeking to reinvent himself as a general. The incident took place without sound for the speaker, but Putin's body language suggested tension and anger. Prokoshin has not directly named Putin, but he has criticized the defense minister and the chief of the army, effectively calling out Putin. Furthermore, there are several private military companies operating in Russia, including the Weidner Group and one run by the defense minister himself. Putin has his own large force, Roskavadia, which is nearly half a million people and acts as his Praetorian Guard. Prokoshin's actions, which are taking place in strategic locations such as Rostov on Don, the headquarters of the Russian southern military district command, are beneficial for the Ukrainians as they may distract Putin and his forces from the Ukrainian counteroffensive.

    • Russia's Internal Divisions and Zelensky's Effective MessagingRussia's ongoing conflict with Ukraine is causing internal strife, with Ukrainian commanders considering a counteroffensive. Zelensky is leveraging this chaos by focusing on Putin and exploiting Russian weaknesses through propaganda.

      The ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine is leading to significant internal divisions within Russia, with Ukrainian commanders weighing the pros and cons of launching a counteroffensive against Russian forces. Zelensky is capitalizing on this chaos by maintaining message discipline and focusing on Putin as the primary target, rather than individual Russian leaders. Russia's weaknesses are becoming increasingly apparent, and Putin is trying to maintain control by deploying military forces in Moscow. Additionally, Zelensky's use of social media and propaganda has been effective in exacerbating tensions between Putin, Progogion, and other Russian leaders, making this a pivotal moment in the conflict. Despite Russian efforts to eliminate Zelensky, he remains a significant threat to Putin's leadership.

    • Russian Businessman's Seizure of Rostov Could Spark MutinyRussian businessman Yevgeny Prigozhin's takeover of Rostov could lead to a mutiny, as he controls around 25,000 troops in Ukraine and has the ability to call back demobilized soldiers, but their loyalty is uncertain, posing a threat to Putin and wider stability.

      Yevgeny Prigozhin, the Russian businessman believed to be behind the Wagner mercenary group, felt threatened by various factors, including a failed abduction attempt and an attack on Wagner camps, which led him to seize control of Rostov. This event, which occurred halfway between Rostov and Moscow, could potentially be the start of a mutiny rather than a coup d'etat. Prigozhin has approximately 25,000 troops in Ukraine, but he could potentially double that number by calling back the demobilized soldiers. However, the loyalty of these forces and the population at large is uncertain, making the situation a significant concern for Putin and potentially leading to wider instability.

    • Russian troops' dissatisfaction fuels rebellion in UkraineRussian troops' discontent over lack of resources may lead to further unrest, potentially instigating right-wing elements advocating for a harsher approach to the war in Ukraine.

      The situation in Ukraine remains volatile, with Commander Sarovkin's rebellion against President Putin highlighting the dissatisfaction among Russian troops due to lack of proper supplies and resources. Sarovkin's statement, made with emotional intensity, has signaled the risk of further unrest, potentially whipping up the right-wing elements in Russia who advocate for a more brutal approach to the war. However, it's unclear whether Sarovkin aims to replace Putin or simply control him. The outcome of this situation remains uncertain, with many possible scenarios, including a quick resolution or a prolonged conflict. The broader implications for the war in Ukraine are yet to be seen.

    • Potential Escalation of Conflict in Ukraine and Its Implications for RussiaThe conflict in Ukraine could escalate into a civil war or a professional counteroffensive, affecting Russia's regime and international support. Chechen forces have been involved, and the situation may either resolve quickly or redefine the entire conflict. The international community's response and travel advisories may change.

      The ongoing conflict in Ukraine could lead to significant consequences for Russia, potentially escalating into a civil war or prompting a more professional counteroffensive. Zelensky has emphasized the sickness and fragility of Putin's regime, which is controlled by people with guns rather than oligarchs. The international community's support for Russia may diminish as the situation unfolds, with potential implications for China and other allies. The weekend saw significant developments, including the involvement of Chechen forces, and the situation could either disappear quickly or redefine the entire conflict. The British response has been described as disappointing, and there is a long-standing advisory against travel to Russia. Sadly, we also lost a beloved figure from the Labour team, Margaret McDonough, who was a crucial part of the 1997 election campaign and contributed to the iconic "Things Can Only Get Better" song.

    • Remembering Margaret McDonough: A Labour Party TrailblazerMargaret McDonough's passing marks the loss of a significant figure in British politics, known for her role in the Labour Party's first election win.

      Margaret McDonough was a pivotal figure in helping the Labour Party win its first election, making her one of the most remarkable campaigners in the party's history. Her passing is a significant loss. Additionally, Alice is attending a wedding but isn't particularly fond of the event. Despite this, we wish her well and look forward to seeing her soon. The discussion also touched upon Margaret's sister, Siobhan, who is an MP. Overall, the conversation highlighted the impact of Margaret McDonough on British politics and the bittersweet nature of life events.

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