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    #147 - Hussein Yassine, M.D.: Deep dive into the “Alzheimer’s gene” (APOE), brain health, and omega-3s

    enFebruary 01, 2021

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    • Understanding the Role of APOE in Brain Functioning and Alzheimer's Disease RiskAPOE, a protein with three variants, plays a role in brain energy metabolism. Carrying the E4 variant increases Alzheimer's disease risk, but understanding its interaction with other factors like EPA and DHA offers potential for mitigating risk.

      That the brain, a complex organ, is influenced by various factors including genetics, energy systems, and specific proteins like APOE. Dr. Hussein Yazin, an associate professor at USC, discusses his research on lipid metabolism and nutrition's impact on cognition and Alzheimer's disease risk, specifically focusing on the APO-E4 allele. While the conversation delves deep into brain biology, energy systems, and the roles of EPA and DHA, it's essential to understand the brain's architecture first. The brain is composed of neuronal and glial cells, and energy is required for their proper functioning. APOE, a protein with three different variants (E2, E3, and E4), plays a role in this process. Carrying the E4 variant increases Alzheimer's disease risk, but understanding this isn't just about genetics. It's also about the role of these proteins in the brain's energy metabolism and how they interact with other factors like EPA and DHA. Despite the complexities, this discussion provides valuable insights into how we can better understand and potentially mitigate the risk of Alzheimer's disease.

    • The Brain: Its Structure and ProtectionThe brain is composed of neurons, astrocytes, microglial cells, and more, protected by the blood-brain barrier and regulated by cerebrospinal fluid. Astrocytes support neurons, and microglial cells protect the brain. Understanding this structure is crucial for understanding conditions like Alzheimer's disease.

      The brain is a complex organ with various cell types, including neurons, astrocytes, microglial cells, and others, which work together to maintain its function. The brain is protected by the blood-brain barrier, which regulates what enters and exits the brain to maintain a stable environment. Cerebrospinal fluid acts as the sewage system of the brain, clearing waste products and maintaining the brain's health. The APOE4 genotype, which increases the risk of Alzheimer's disease, is a significant factor to consider. Astrocytes provide energy and support to neurons, while microglial cells act as immune cells to protect the brain from infections and toxic proteins. The blood-brain barrier and cerebrospinal fluid work together to maintain the brain's stability and health. Understanding these concepts is essential for grasping the impact of conditions like Alzheimer's disease on the brain.

    • The Brain's High Energy Demand and Lipid-Rich EnvironmentThe brain, despite being only 2% of body weight, consumes 20% of energy due to its complex wiring system and high lipid content, which is essential for its signaling functions.

      The brain, despite being only 2% of body weight, consumes approximately 20% of the energy due to its unique function as an electric system. Its lipid-rich environment is essential for the intricate wiring system, including myelin and synapses, to facilitate the constant firing of neurons. This high energy demand is met through a complex system of glucose and lipid extraction and utilization. Unlike other organs, such as the heart, which primarily function mechanically, the brain's primary function is signal transduction, requiring an elaborate system of lipids to maintain its delicate and intricate wiring.

    • The Brain's Unique Energy RequirementsThe brain relies primarily on glucose for energy, extracting it through a unique mechanism at the blood-brain barrier. It's less efficient in using fat and can only use ketones during energy scarcity, causing oxidative stress.

      The muscles have various options for fuel sources, including glucose, fatty acids, lactate, and even ketones. The brain, however, has unique energy requirements and relies primarily on glucose, which it extracts through a different mechanism at the blood-brain barrier. Unlike the rest of the body, the brain's glucose uptake is not controlled by insulin or exercise, but rather by maintaining a constant supply. The brain is less efficient in using fat as a source of energy, preferring instead to use it for other functions like myelin production. During times of energy scarcity, the brain can extract energy from ketone bodies, but this comes with the cost of oxidative stress. The brain's energy metabolism is complex and intricately regulated to ensure its proper functioning.

    • Understanding the Brain's Energy Metabolism and ApoE's RoleThe brain uses glucose as its primary energy source, but can also utilize ketone bodies. ApoE, an Apo lipoprotein, regulates lipid transport and metabolism, and its multiple roles make it a complex subject for research, particularly in relation to brain health and conditions like Alzheimer's disease.

      The brain has unique mechanisms for regulating its energy supply, primarily using glucose as its preferred source. The brain can also utilize ketone bodies when glucose is not available. ApoE, an Apo lipoprotein, plays a crucial role in the peripheral circulation, acting as a conductor to regulate the speed of lipid transport and metabolism. ApoE and ApoC3 are exchangeable lipoproteins that can move between different populations of lipoproteins, determining whether they stay in circulation or get cleared. The complexity of ApoE's multiple roles makes it a challenging subject for research. In summary, understanding the brain's energy metabolism and the functions of ApoE are essential for comprehending the intricacies of brain health and related conditions, such as Alzheimer's disease.

    • APOE's Role in Lipid Metabolism is ComplexAPOE's function and interactions change with lipid particles, impacting clearance and potential cardiovascular risk. Its versatility and ability to bind various receptors makes its role elusive, and a reliable assay for measuring its concentration is lacking.

      APOE, a key lipoprotein component, plays a complex role in metabolism, particularly in the context of lipid particles like milkshake-derived chiral microns and VLDL. APOE's function and interactions change as these particles evolve, with implications for clearance and potential cardiovascular risk. While APOB and APOA1 have straightforward correlations with lipoproteins, APOE's role is more elusive due to its versatility and ability to bind various receptors. The lack of a reliable assay for measuring APOE concentration in the periphery further complicates matters. Ultimately, understanding APOE's role in the context of various lipoproteins and its distinct functions in the blood and brain will be crucial for advancing our knowledge of metabolic processes and related diseases.

    • APOE's Role in the Brain: Beyond Lipid ClearanceAPOE supports brain function by regulating inflammation and cholesterol transport between astrocytes and neurons, and its specific isoform, APOE4, may enter the brain from peripheral circulation.

      APOE, a protein involved in lipid transport, plays a crucial role in the brain beyond just facilitating clearance of lipids. It supports astrocytes, which in turn support neurons, by efficiently cross-talking different cell types. APOE's flexibility allows it to regulate inflammation and cholesterol transport between astrocytes and neurons. Unlike APO-B, which is degraded in the lysosome leading to therapeutic developments like statins, APOE recycles and controls lipid levels within cells, influencing various lipid metabolism pathways, particularly the inflammatory one. Recent research suggests that APOE4, a specific isoform, may bypass the blood-brain barrier through LRP1, challenging the long-held belief that it doesn't enter the brain from peripheral circulation. APOE's half-life varies depending on its form, with free APOE rapidly disappearing while bound forms, like those in HDL, persist longer. Thousands of years ago, our ancestors had only the E4 isoform of the APOE gene, which may have evolved due to its important inflammatory function.

    • APOE gene's role in survival and Alzheimer's riskThe APOE4 gene variant, beneficial in our ancestors' time, now increases Alzheimer's risk due to environmental and lifestyle changes

      The APOE gene, specifically the APOE4 variant, played a crucial role in our ancestors' survival by enhancing the immune response against parasitic infections. However, as our environment and lifestyles changed over time, particularly with the shift towards a more aseptic environment and longer lifespans, the advantage of carrying the APOE4 allele began to decline, and it now contributes to an increased risk of Alzheimer's disease. The emergence of other APOE variants, such as E2 and E3, around 10,000 and 50,000 years ago, respectively, may have been a result of mass migration and dietary changes that put pressure on the APOE4 gene. Overall, this discussion highlights the complex relationship between genetics, environment, and disease, and how our evolutionary past can influence our health in the present.

    • APOE gene's role in Alzheimer's development and its association with APOE4APOE4, an APOE gene isoform, increases Alzheimer's risk 12-fold for carriers of two copies and 2-4 fold for carriers of one copy. However, ethnicity plays a role in the risk, and other genes like TOMM40 and FGF may interact with APOE4.

      The APOE gene, specifically its three isoforms E2, E3, and E4, plays a significant role in the development of Alzheimer's disease. While E2 and E3 favor a more robust GLUT1 expression at the blood-brain barrier, promoting glucose utilization in the brain, E4 has a different function. E4 tells the brain to rely on fat instead of sugar, which was likely beneficial in our ancestral diets. However, when people shifted to a plant-based diet, the effect of E4 on GLUT1 became counter-intuitive, and APOE3 and APOE2 became more favorable. The association between APOE4 and Alzheimer's disease was first identified in the late 1980s by Alan Rose, who discovered that Alzheimer's patients had substantially higher APOE4 compared to non-Alzheimer's patients. Despite facing backlash due to the prevailing amyloid hypothesis, Rose's findings were later confirmed, and we now know that carrying two copies of APOE4 increases the risk of Alzheimer's disease 12-fold, while carrying one copy increases the risk 2-4 fold. However, not all APOE4 carriers have the same risk, which is largely explained by ethnicity. The question of why not all carriers have the same risk is a fundamental one and is related to the fact that APOE4 is part of a larger gene locus or haplotype, which may interact with other genes like TOMM40 and FGF.

    • Genes near APOE4 can impact Alzheimer's riskAPOE4 increases Alzheimer's risk, but genes near it and environmental factors also play a role

      The gene variant APOE4, which is associated with an increased risk of Alzheimer's disease, is not alone in its locus on chromosome 19. There are approximately 20 to 30 other gene variants that are co-inherited with APOE4. The linkage disequilibrium between these genes can differ between ethnicities, which can impact disease development. APOE4 by itself may not be sufficient to cause disease, and environmental or gene-gene interactions can also play a role. For example, the interaction between APOE4 and diabetes can significantly increase the risk of Alzheimer's disease. APOE4 affects the ability of the brain to regulate glucose and omega-3 fatty acids, making carriers more susceptible to disease in insulin-resistant environments. However, the relationship between APOE4 and diseases like type 2 diabetes is complex, and it's important to remember that type 2 diabetes is a syndrome with a broad spectrum, not a distinct disease that specifically targets APOE4 carriers.

    • APOE4 gene and complex conditionsAPOE4 gene may increase risk for diabetes and Alzheimer's, but diet plays a significant role in outcomes, and further research is needed to understand the complex relationship.

      The relationship between APOE4 gene and conditions like type 2 diabetes and Alzheimer's disease is complex and multifaceted. APOE4 itself can contribute to insulin resistance and may be a factor in the development of these conditions, but the interaction between genetics and diet plays a significant role. While there isn't a clear answer yet, studies suggest that matching diet to genotype could potentially lead to better outcomes. APOE4 is linked to an energy crisis, but other hypotheses, such as inflammation differences, may also contribute to the accelerated disease pathway. The aging process and the presence of second or third hits can exacerbate the effects of APOE4, making the diet a more crucial factor. Overall, the interaction between genetics, aging, and diet requires further research to fully understand.

    • Factors affecting brain health and omega-3sThe brain's health is influenced by a leaky blood-brain barrier, inflammation, neuronal energy starvation, and low omega-3 intake. Omega-3s, particularly DHA, are crucial for neuronal membrane fluidity and efficient neuronal firing, but many people don't get enough from their diet.

      The health of the brain is influenced by multiple factors, including a leaky blood-brain barrier, inflammation, and neuronal energy starvation. These factors can interact synergistically to negatively impact brain health. Additionally, the brain is highly enriched in omega-3 fatty acids, particularly DHA, which is essential for neuronal membrane fluidity and efficient neuronal firing. However, the human body cannot produce omega-3s efficiently, and the typical Western diet is not rich in these essential fatty acids. As a result, it is likely that many people are not getting enough omega-3s to support optimal brain health. While supplementation is a potential solution, research on its effectiveness is conflicted. Overall, it is clear that multiple factors contribute to brain health, and ensuring an adequate intake of omega-3s through diet or supplementation is an important aspect of maintaining brain health.

    • The Importance of Omega-3s: Marine Origin and Health BenefitsRecent research highlights the significance of omega-3s, particularly EPA and DHA, for heart and brain health. A deficiency could increase disease risk.

      Omega-3 fatty acids, specifically EPA and DHA, have a marine origin and are essential for human health. They can be sourced from various marine organisms like fish, microalgae, and krill oils. The complex structure of these fatty acids requires specific machinery found in algae for their formation. While it's well-known that higher consumption of omega-3s is linked to better health outcomes, particularly in the brain and heart, recent research suggests that a deficiency in omega-3s could increase the risk of disease. A notable study, the REDUCE-IT trial, showed that a high dose of EPA significantly reduced cardiovascular events in individuals with elevated triglycerides and other risk factors. However, the use of mineral oil as a placebo in the study raised some questions about the results. Overall, the importance of omega-3s in our diet cannot be overstated, and ongoing research continues to shed light on their potential health benefits.

    • Mineral oil as a placebo in omega-3 trials raises questionsStudy results showing cardiovascular benefits from omega-3s using mineral oil as a placebo are questionable, possibly due to practical reasons or dosage, and the benefits may not apply to all populations.

      The use of mineral oil as a placebo in a clinical trial involving omega-3 fatty acids, specifically EPA, raised questions about the study's results when it showed significant cardiovascular benefits. The decision to use mineral oil was likely made for practical reasons rather than considering potential health implications. The high doses of EPA used in the study did not translate into cardiovascular benefits when compared to corn oil in a later study, leaving open the question of whether it was the mineral oil, the dose, or the ratio of EPA to DHA that was the issue. Additionally, the patients in the study were primarily high-risk individuals with type 2 diabetes and dyslipidemia, and it's debatable whether long-term treatment of such patients in their forties would be more beneficial than waiting until they are older. It's important to remember that when we talk about omega-3s, we may be discussing supplements or drugs, and the mechanisms of action and implications differ between the two.

    • Understanding the roles of statins and omega-3s in cardiovascular health and brain developmentStatins decrease atherosclerosis through small dents reduction, while EPA may reduce cardiovascular risks through anti-inflammatory effects and plaque rupture prevention. DHA is crucial for brain development during rapid accretion period.

      Both statins and EPA, an omega-3 fatty acid, have been shown to have positive effects on cardiovascular health, but the mechanisms behind their actions are not fully understood. While statins are believed to work by decreasing small dents on atherogenic alkylosrol particles, leading to less atherosclerosis and fewer cardiovascular events, the exact way that EPA reduces cardiovascular risks is less clear. One possibility is that EPA has potent anti-inflammatory effects and reduces plaque rupture through local effects on the plaques. However, more research is needed to confirm this hypothesis. In a different context, DHA, another omega-3 fatty acid, plays a crucial role in brain development, particularly during the rapid accretion of lipids in the brain from conception to age six. Ensuring adequate intake of DHA during this period is essential for proper brain development, which can impact cognitive function and daily activities later in life. The role of omega-3s beyond this age range and how aging affects their impact is less clear. In summary, while we have a good understanding of the mechanisms behind the cardiovascular benefits of statins and the importance of DHA for brain development, more research is needed to fully understand the roles and mechanisms of EPA in both cardiovascular health and brain function.

    • Omega-3s and Brain Health: Complex Role and Long-term BenefitsLong-term consumption of omega-3s may benefit brain health, especially for APOE carriers. However, the relationship is complex and short-term effects may not be significant.

      The role of omega-3s in brain health between the ages of six and 60 is complex and not fully understood. While some studies suggest that a lack of omega-3s may lead to subtle cognitive impairments, anxiety disorders, mood disorders, and depression, other studies do not find these associations. The half-life of lipids in the brain is much longer than in other compartments in the body, meaning that if someone is not consuming omega-3s, and then given high doses, it may not show significant results in the short term. However, long-term epidemiology studies suggest that those who consume enough omega-3s have less disease as they age. For APOE carriers, the story is more complex. Younger APOE4 carriers have greater uptake of DHA in their brains, meaning they may benefit from a diet rich in omega-3s to maintain cognitive function. However, after a certain age, the ability of the APOE4 brain to capture omega-3s from the blood gets compromised. Overall, while the role of omega-3s in brain health is not fully understood, long-term consumption may be beneficial, especially for APOE carriers.

    • During aging, APOE4 gene carriers struggle to absorb essential omega-3 fatty acids like DHA, hindering brain development.APOE4 gene carriers face challenges absorbing DHA during aging, potentially impacting brain development. Ongoing research explores high-dose DHA supplementation to slow cognitive decline, but identifying a reliable biomarker for intervention remains a challenge.

      During the aging process, particularly in individuals carrying the APOE4 gene, the blood brain barrier and GLUT1 receptors can become compromised, hindering the ability to assimilate essential omega-3 fatty acids like DHA. This is a critical time as DHA is essential for forming synapses in the brain. A large clinical trial in 2010, led by Joe Quinn, showed no effect of DHA supplementation on APOE4 carriers, while non-carriers appeared to improve. This suggests that there may be a critical window of opportunity to supplement with DHA before the blood brain barrier fails and the ability to assimilate DHA is lost. Ongoing research, such as the Prevent E4 trial, aims to investigate whether high-dose DHA supplementation can slow down the progression of cognitive decline in APOE4 carriers before they develop dementia. However, the challenge lies in identifying a reliable biomarker to indicate when intervention is most effective, as conducting long-term studies on young individuals is not feasible.

    • Challenges in finding effective interventions for dementia preventionThe complexities of finding effective interventions for dementia prevention include the absence of definitive biomarkers, the need for careful consideration of risks and benefits, and the potential for different recommendations based on age and genetic factors.

      The search for effective interventions for dementia prevention poses unique challenges compared to conditions like atherosclerosis. While dietary changes or supplements, such as DHA, are options, the potential risks and benefits need careful consideration. The absence of definitive biomarkers or functional studies adds complexity to this issue. For instance, the older APOE4 brain, once it reaches the dementia stage, may upregulate enzymes like phospholipase A2 for energy production, leading to neuroinflammatory oxidative stress. This means that recommendations for younger versus older APOE4 carriers could differ significantly. Researchers are actively exploring brain imaging studies and biomarkers to predict cognitive decline a decade in advance, but clinical trials alone may not provide definitive answers. In summary, the journey to finding effective interventions for dementia prevention requires a multifaceted approach and a deep understanding of the complexities involved.

    • Lifestyle modifications for APOE4 carriersAPOE4 carriers may benefit from maintaining a healthy lifestyle, including adequate omega-3 consumption, controlling blood pressure, and regular exercise, to mitigate Alzheimer's disease risks. Prevention is crucial before late stages.

      For individuals with the APOE4 gene, who are at increased risk for Alzheimer's disease, maintaining a healthy lifestyle, including adequate omega-3 consumption from fatty fish, controlling blood pressure, and engaging in regular exercise, may help mitigate the risks associated with this gene. However, high-quality clinical trials are needed to definitively prove the benefits of these interventions. The aging Alzheimer's disease brain may have compromised nutrient transport, making dietary interventions less effective once the disease has progressed. Therefore, it's crucial to focus on prevention before reaching the late stages of the disease. While Omega-3 supplementation is not currently recommended due to a lack of conclusive evidence, consuming at least one serving of fatty fish per week is a simple and evidence-based recommendation. Additionally, education and hypertension control have been identified as protective factors for APOE4 carriers. Overall, a multi-faceted approach to lifestyle modifications may offer the best chance of reducing the risk of Alzheimer's disease for APOE4 carriers.

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    Dena Dubal is a physician-scientist and professor of neurology at UCSF whose work focuses on mechanisms of longevity and brain resilience. In this episode, Dena delves into the intricacies of the longevity factor klotho: its formation and distribution in the body, the factors such as stress and exercise that impact its levels, and its profound impact on cognitive function and overall brain health. Dena shares insights from exciting research in animal models showing the potential of klotho in treating neurodegenerative diseases as well as its broader implications for organ health and disease prevention. She concludes with an optimistic outlook for future research in humans and the potential of klotho for the prevention and treatment of Alzheimer’s disease.

    Disclosure: Peter is an investor in Jocasta Neuroscience, a company working to develop klotho as a therapy for people with Alzheimer’s disease.

    We discuss:

    • Dena’s fascination with aging and how she came to study klotho [3:30];
    • Biological properties of klotho: production, regulation, decline with age, and factors influencing its levels [11:45];
    • Potential benefits of klotho on brain health [22:00];
    • The relationship between soluble klotho protein, platelet factors, and cognitive enhancement [33:45];
    • The role of platelet factor 4 (PF4) and it’s interaction with GluN2B in mediating cognitive enhancement [46:45];
    • Benefits of klotho observed in a mouse model of Parkinson’s disease [55:45];
    • Benefits of klotho observed in a mouse model of Alzheimer’s disease [1:03:00];
    • Promising results of klotho in primate models, and the importance of finding an appropriate therapeutic dose before moving to human trials [1:08:00];
    • Speculating why a single klotho injection has such long-lasting effects [1:25:30];
    • Potential cognitive benefits of klotho in humans, the impact of the KL-VS genetic variant on klotho levels, and the need for human trials to confirm these effects [1:27:45];
    • The interaction between the KL-VS genetic variant and APOE4 and how it impacts risk of Alzheimer’s disease [1:34:45];
    • The significance of klotho levels: studies linking lower levels to increased mortality and the broader implications for organ health and disease prevention [1:47:15];
    • Measuring klotho levels and determining an individual’s KL-VS status [1:52:15];
    • The promising potential of klotho for Alzheimer’s disease treatment, and the importance of philanthropy for funding research [1:58:00]; and
    • More.

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    enMay 27, 2024

    #302 - Confronting a metabolic epidemic: understanding liver health and how to prevent, diagnose, and manage liver disease | Julia Wattacheril, M.D., M.P.H.

    #302 - Confronting a metabolic epidemic: understanding liver health and how to prevent, diagnose, and manage liver disease | Julia Wattacheril, M.D., M.P.H.

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    Julia Wattacheril is a physician scientist and director of the Metabolic Dysfunction Associated Steatotic Liver Disease (MASLD) program at Columbia University Irving Medical Center. In this episode, Julia delves deep into the complex world of liver health, beginning with a foundational overview of liver physiology. She provides an in-depth look at how alcohol impacts liver function, breaking down the metabolism of ethanol and its detrimental effects. Julia then shifts the focus to understanding liver function tests and optimal enzyme levels, providing a detailed explanation of AST and ALT and elucidating why fluctuations in these levels may or may not be concerning. She provides a primer on the four major stages of liver disease, discussing risk and emphasizing the importance of early diagnosis. Julia highlights the role of liver disease in increasing the risk of cancer and cardiovascular disease and covers in detail the various strategies for diagnosing, treating, and preventing the progression of liver disease.

    We discuss:

    • Julia’s training, the importance of liver health, and the challenges and innovations of hepatology [3:15];
    • The complex and crucial functionality of the liver, its four most essential functions, and more [8:45];
    • Liver injuries: historical and evolving understanding of causal factors, and the progression to liver diseases and cancer [13:15];
    • How the liver metabolizes nutrients and what happens in the presence of excess calories or alcohol [24:45];
    • Methods of diagnosing liver disease and how insights guide treatment and management strategies [33:30];
    • The poisonous nature of ethanol to the liver [40:30];
    • Varied responses to alcohol, damaging effects of alcohol beyond the liver, and the process of advising patients on their alcohol consumption [47:15];
    • Understanding liver enzymes AST and ALT—interpreting levels, lifestyle factors that affect them, and diagnostic approaches [58:30];
    • Interpreting liver function tests for fatty liver disease, and the challenges of diagnosing liver pathologies, particularly in children versus adults [1:13:15];
    • Comprehensive liver health assessments via imaging and various diagnostic tools to prevent overlooking potential liver pathologies [1:18:45];
    • Potential impact of recreational drugs, statins, and other medications on liver function test results [1:26:45];
    • Shifting nomenclature from NAFLD to MASLD to reflect accuracy in the underlying pathophysiology and understanding of liver diseases [1:30:30];
    • Pathophysiology of MASLD, the need for proactive screening, and the significance of liver fat percentage as an indicator of metabolic health [1:36:30];
    • The importance of screening for rare conditions alongside common metabolic diseases associated with fatty liver accumulation [1:42:45];
    • Practical strategies for managing MAFLD [1:45:30];
    • The impact of fructose consumption on liver health and the challenges of disentangling its effects from other factors like obesity and insulin resistance [1:52:45];
    • The potential of GLP-1 agonists for the treatment of MASLD [1:57:45];
    • How the four stages of liver disease have evolved [2:00:30];
    • Increased cancer and heart disease risk associated with early-stage MAFLD [2:05:15];
    • Emerging drugs and therapies for addressing fat accumulation and fibrosis related to MAFLD [2:12:15];
    • Peter’s major takeaways [2:18:45]; and
    • More.

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    #301 - AMA #59: Inflammation: its impact on aging and disease risk, and how to identify, prevent, and reduce it

    #301 - AMA #59: Inflammation: its impact on aging and disease risk, and how to identify, prevent, and reduce it

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    In this “Ask Me Anything” (AMA) episode, Peter delves into the often misunderstood concept of inflammation. He first defines inflammation and differentiates between acute inflammation and chronic inflammation, the latter of which is linked to aging and a plethora of age-related diseases. Peter breaks down the intricate relationship between chronic inflammation, obesity, and metabolic health, and highlights the signs that might suggest someone may be suffering from chronic inflammation. From there, the conversation centers on actionable advice and practical steps one can take to manage and minimize chronic inflammation. He explores how diet plays a crucial role, including the potential benefits of elimination diets, and he examines the impact of lifestyle factors such as exercise, sleep, and stress management. Additionally, he discusses the relevance of food inflammatory tests and concludes by examining the potential benefits and drawbacks of drugs and supplements in managing inflammation.

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    We discuss:

    • Defining inflammation (and the cultural impact of Napoleon Dynamite) [1:45];
    • Acute vs chronic inflammation [8:00];
    • The connection between chronic inflammation, aging, and age-related diseases [11:00];
    • The impact of inflammation on metabolic health [18:30];
    • Understanding and diagnosing chronic inflammation: blood tests and other approaches, and challenges with measurement [20:00];
    • Factors that contribute to low-level chronic inflammation [28:00];
    • Minimizing inflammation through diet [29:45];
    • The important role of fiber for gut health and inflammation [33:45];
    • A closer look at the impact of trans fats and saturated fats on overall health [34:45];
    • Why Peter prefers dietary fiber from food sources over supplements [38:30];
    • Debunking “superfoods”: emphasizing proven methods over marketing claims for reducing inflammation [39:00];
    • Is there any value in over-the-counter food inflammatory tests? [42:30];
    • Food elimination diets: how they work, symptoms and markers to watch, challenges and limitations [45:15];
    • Identifying dietary triggers for gut-related symptoms through low-FODMAP diets like the “carnivore diet” [51:15];
    • Dairy: the complex role of dairy on inflammation and individual responses [55:00];
    • Wheat: the complexities and conflicting evidence around wheat's inflammatory effects [57:45];
    • How exercise influences inflammation [1:02:00];
    • How sleep quality and duration impacts inflammation [1:07:00];
    • The potential impact of chronic psychological stressors on inflammation [1:13:00];
    • The impact of oral health on inflammation and overall well-being [1:15:00];
    • The role of medications in managing chronic inflammation [1:18:15];
    • Supplements: evaluating the efficacy of various anti-inflammatory supplements [1:22:15];
    • Parting thoughts and takeaways [1:27:00]; and
    • More.

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    #300 - Special episode: Peter on exercise, fasting, nutrition, stem cells, geroprotective drugs, and more — promising interventions or just noise?

    #300 - Special episode: Peter on exercise, fasting, nutrition, stem cells, geroprotective drugs, and more — promising interventions or just noise?

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    In this special edition celebrating 300 episodes of The Drive, Peter discusses a variety of popular topics and health interventions and classifies them based on their level of evidence and relevance using the following categories: proven, promising, fuzzy, noise, and nonsense. Peter first delves into the topic of geroprotective molecules, covering rapamycin, metformin, NAD and its precursors, and resveratrol. Next, he explores the significance of metrics like VO2 max and muscle mass, as well as emerging concepts like blood flow restriction and stem cells. The conversation extends to nutrition, addressing questions surrounding long-term fasting, sugar consumption, sugar substitutes, and the contentious role of red meat in cancer. Peter not only provides his current stance on each topic—most of which have been covered in great detail in the previous 300 episodes—but also reflects on how his opinion may have evolved over the years.

    We discuss:

    • Defining the categories of “proven, promising, fuzzy, noise, and nonsense” [3:15];
    • Rapamycin [9:30];
    • Metformin [17:00];
    • NAD and its precursors [24:30];
    • Resveratrol [32:45];
    • The importance of VO2 max, muscle mass, and muscular strength for lifespan [38:15];
    • Blood flow restriction (BFR) training [44:00];
    • Using stem cells to treat osteoarthritis or injury [51:30];
    • Fasting as a tool for longevity (and why Peter stopped his fasting protocol) [55:45];
    • The energy balance theory [1:06:30];
    • The idea that sugar is poison [1:12:00];
    • The idea that sugar substitutes are dangerous [1:22:15];
    • The debate on red meat and cancer [1:28:45]; and
    • More.

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    Special episode with Dax Shepard: F1 and the 30th anniversary of Ayrton Senna’s death

    Special episode with Dax Shepard: F1 and the 30th anniversary of Ayrton Senna’s death

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    This is a special episode of The Drive with Peter’s friend and fellow car enthusiast Dax Shepard. In this podcast, which commemorates the 30th anniversary of the death of Brazilian Formula One legend Ayrton Senna, Dax sits down with Peter to better understand what made Senna so special and why Peter remains an enormous fan. This conversation focuses on Senna’s life, the circumstances of his death, and his lasting impact and legacy on the sport of F1.

    We discuss:

    • Peter’s interest in motorsports began as a child [2:30];
    • The drama and dangers of F1 [6:00];
    • What made Senna special [13:00];
    • What Senna meant to Brazilians [24:00];
    • The cause of the fatal crash [28:15];
    • Why Peter is obsessed with Senna [40:30];
    • Being the best versus having the best record [43:30];
    • Senna’s unique driving style and incredible intuition about automotive engineering [46:30];
    • Back to the day of the dreadful race [53:00];
    • What Peter believes caused the crash [1:02:45];
    • Views on dying young, in the prime of life [1:13:00];
    • Senna lives on in his foundation and in safety changes adopted by F1 [1:21:00];
    • Statistics aren’t enough for fandom, and why people like who they do [1:24:15];
    • The biggest difference between F1 today and F1 in the 80s [1:28:30];
    • Senna’s driving superpower [1:30:30];
    • The fastest drivers currently in F1 [1:38:30];
    • Current F1 obsessions [1:45:00];
    • How hard it is to do what the top F1 drivers do [1:50:15];
    • Dax’s love of motorcycles and his AMG E63 station wagon [1:52:15];
    • Awesome Senna mementos from Etsy [2:01:15];
    • What makes specialists interesting, and Max’s devotion to F1 [2:10:15];
    • What Senna might have done if he had not died that day [2:14:00];
    • Michael Schumacher and Max Verstappen are also top F1 drivers [2:17:30];
    • Interlagos in Sao Paulo Brazil is always an incredible experience [2:18:45]; and
    • More.

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    #299 ‒ Optimizing muscle protein synthesis: the crucial impact of protein quality and quantity, and the key role of resistance training | Luc van Loon, Ph.D.

    #299 ‒ Optimizing muscle protein synthesis: the crucial impact of protein quality and quantity, and the key role of resistance training | Luc van Loon, Ph.D.

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    Luc van Loon is an internationally renowned expert in skeletal muscle metabolism. In this episode, Luc starts with an exploration of the roles of insulin and triglycerides in endurance exercise, highlighting their impact on skeletal muscle metabolism, and he offers profound insights into the significance of protein in this context. He elucidates how different protein types and forms influence muscle protein synthesis rates, exploring the nuances of protein absorption, digestibility, amino acid quality, and their implications for performance and recovery. Delving deeper, he differentiates between animal and plant protein sources, unraveling the distinctive properties of various protein types, from the differences between whey and casein to the emerging trends in collagen protein supplementation. Moreover, Luc dissects the intricate connections among physical activity, lean muscle mass, muscle protein synthesis induced by resistance training, and dietary protein.

    We discuss:

    • Luc’s background and insights about fuel selection during exercise [3:30];
    • Fuel utilization during endurance exercise [9:30];
    • Fat metabolism, intramuscular lipids, and the nutritional dynamics of endurance sports [17:15];
    • The optimal window for replenishing intramuscular fat stores and glycogen post-exercise [25:15];
    • Luc’s interest in protein metabolism and exploration of amino acids' dual role as building blocks and signaling molecules in driving muscle protein synthesis [32:15];
    • How protein metabolism differs between sedentary individuals and those engaged in predominantly strength training or endurance training [38:45];
    • The basics of how proteins are digested and absorbed, and how muscle protein synthesis is measured [50:30];
    • How factors like food texture, cooking methods, and protein composition impact muscle protein synthesis, and the importance of protein distribution throughout the day [59:45];
    • Differences in whey and casein proteins, and the ability of ingested protein to stimulate muscle protein synthesis [1:03:30];
    • Dietary protein distribution and quantity for the maximization of muscle protein synthesis [1:09:00];
    • Muscle loss with age and inactivity and the importance of resistance exercise to maintain type II muscle fibers [1:17:15];
    • Differences between whey and casein proteins, and the importance of both quantity and quality of protein sources [1:28:30];
    • Optimizing muscle protein synthesis: exercise, timing of protein intake, protein quality, and more [1:37:00];
    • How to preserve muscle while trying to lose weight [1:46:00];
    • Anabolic resistance and overcoming it with physical activity [1:55:45];
    • Importance of protein intake and physical activity in hospitalized patients [2:06:30];
    • Reviewing the efficacy of collagen supplements [2:13:30];
    • Plant-based diets: how to ensure a balance of amino acids, and other considerations [2:20:30];
    • Future research: understanding protein metabolism in the brain [2:23:45]; and
    • More.

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