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    #153 - Selling The Hustle for Millions: How The Hustle & Hubspot Deal Happened

    enFebruary 12, 2021

    Podcast Summary

    • Insights from Marketing Professionals in HubSpot's State of Marketing ReportStay updated on marketing trends, prioritize clear communication, and embrace adaptability to succeed in business.

      Staying updated on marketing trends is crucial for business success, and the HubSpot 2,024 State of Marketing report provides valuable insights from marketing professionals around the world on effective and ineffective strategies. Kieran Flanagan, a new boss for the speaker, shares his excitement about learning new things and the importance of clear communication between team members. The speaker also discusses an acquisition by HubSpot of a media company, which may be a trend for other businesses seeking to expand their offerings. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of adaptability and continuous learning in the ever-evolving marketing landscape. To learn more, check out the free HubSpot State of Marketing report at hubspot.com/stateofmarketing.

    • Media companies buying content and community-focused businessesMedia companies seek acquisitions for content and community expansion. Founders can increase chances by approaching potential buyers with a partnership mindset.

      Media companies are increasingly looking to acquire content and community-focused businesses to expand their offerings. This trend was discussed in a trends group, with examples including Robinhood buying Snacks, Stripe buying Indie Hackers, and HubSpot buying The Hustle. For founders looking to sell their companies, understanding the thought process behind these acquisitions can be valuable. In the case of HubSpot, the decision to buy The Hustle came about during a conversation about future growth, with a focus on content and community. The initial outreach was a cold email from an internal team member, and the acquisition was not initially met with internal enthusiasm. However, with persistence and a well-crafted pitch, the deal was eventually closed. For founders looking to be acquired, approaching potential buyers with a partnership or "get to know you" mindset may be more effective than a straightforward "buy us" proposition.

    • Personalized communication and mutual interests build successful partnershipsEffective communication, honesty, and transparency save time and lead to successful business outcomes

      Effective communication and honesty are key elements in successful business partnerships. Wayne Quint's cold email was personalized, showed mutual interests, and built rapport quickly. During the call, the transparency and straightforwardness of the conversation saved time and showed respect for both parties. Karen also shared her experience of pitching potential acquisitions, explaining that initial attempts didn't succeed due to a lack of alignment or mutual understanding. Overall, being clear, honest, and direct in business interactions can lead to more productive and successful outcomes.

    • Authentic communication in pitching a business dealBeing genuine about reasons for involvement and adapting to company culture are essential for successful pitches.

      Authenticity and clear communication are crucial when pitching a business idea to potential investors or team members. The speakers in this discussion shared their experience of pitching a media company deal, where they initially focused on the potential monetization aspect but later realized that their genuine passion was building audience on the properties. They emphasized the importance of being honest about the reasons for wanting to be involved and adapting to the company culture. The team also had concerns about one of the founders, Sam, and his ability to work within a structured environment, but they eventually came to appreciate his talents and personality. Authentic communication and understanding each other's motivations and strengths led to a successful pitch and acquisition.

    • Navigating the Acquisition Process: A Dance Between Business and Personal DynamicsThe acquisition process involves a delicate balance of business and personal dynamics. Finding a good fit for both parties is crucial.

      The acquisition process can vary greatly from company to company, with some focusing more on building a relationship and others on the business details. The speaker described experiencing both extremes, with one company interrogating them intensely and the other wining and dining them. The virtual nature of the process during COVID made getting to know the team personally a challenge. Despite the intense due diligence, the speaker ultimately appreciated the friendly and straightforward approach of the acquiring company, which he described as "work flirting." However, the diligence process was a significant hurdle. The acquisition process typically involves a "walkaway point" during price negotiation and an "almost fall through point" later on, but the speaker did not mention experiencing either during this deal. The key takeaway is that the acquisition process can be a complex dance between business and personal dynamics, and it's essential to find a good fit for both parties involved.

    • Prioritizing team happiness over data during acquisitionsTransparency, honesty, flexibility, and team happiness are crucial during acquisitions, beyond just data and numbers.

      During the acquisition process of a company, while data is important, it's not the only factor to consider. The cultural fit and happiness of the team are crucial. The speakers in this conversation shared an experience where they prioritized the potential unhappiness of the team over minor data-related issues. They emphasized the importance of transparency and honesty in negotiations, even if it meant revealing weaknesses or areas for improvement. They also discussed the unique challenges of working with lawyers during the acquisition process. Despite being a data-driven team, they learned that give-and-take and flexibility in negotiations can be valuable skills. Ultimately, the success of an acquisition depends on various factors beyond just the numbers.

    • Negotiate like a poker game, keep your cards close to your chestDuring negotiations, don't reveal too much information about your position or intentions early. Gather info about the other party's priorities and bargaining power, and respond thoughtfully to their offers to create urgency and secure better deals.

      During negotiations, it's crucial not to reveal too much information about your position or intentions too early. This can be compared to a game of poker, where giving away too many signals about your hand can weaken your position. Instead, aim to gather as much information as possible about the other party's priorities and bargaining power. If they ask for a number, don't provide one immediately. Instead, take time to consider their offer and come back with a thoughtful response. By withholding information and maintaining a sense of mystery, you can create a sense of urgency and encourage the other party to negotiate more actively. This approach can ultimately help you secure better deals and build stronger business relationships.

    • Building a Strong Relationship During an AcquisitionFocus on demonstrating value, engaging physically, nurturing dependence, inspiring hope, and consider having a trusted advisor to ensure a successful acquisition process.

      During a company acquisition, it's crucial to understand the perspective of those involved and focus on demonstrating value, engaging physically, nurturing dependence, and inspiring hope. These steps can help build a strong relationship and ensure a successful deal. Additionally, having a "deal doula" or trusted advisor can help guide you through the process and alleviate self-doubt. The Dennis System from "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" provides a humorous yet insightful analogy for these steps in the context of selling a company. Ultimately, it's essential to remember that the acquisition process can be emotional and challenging, but with the right approach, it can lead to a mutually beneficial outcome for all parties involved.

    • Selling a company and the unexpected emotionsDespite the excitement of selling a company, the experience can be underwhelming and the emotions complex. Some people may make irresponsible purchases, while others find that having enough money to not worry brings greater happiness.

      The experience of selling a company and receiving a large sum of money can be underwhelming and anticlimactic, despite the excitement and planning that comes beforehand. During the conversation, the speakers shared their personal experiences of selling their companies and how they celebrated. They discussed the reactions of their parents and their plans for spending the money, including irresponsible purchases like pizza, cake, and Michelle Obama's inauguration outfit. The third speaker shared his experience of adding a large sum of money to a personal finance app to see how it felt, but found that it didn't significantly impact his happiness. The speakers also discussed the idea that people are motivated towards or away from things, and for some, the goal is to have enough money to not worry about it, rather than having specific material possessions. Overall, the conversation highlighted the complex and often unexpected emotions that come with financial success.

    • Freedom from problems contributes to quality of lifeFinancial security brings freedom from problems, contributing to a better life, but money doesn't buy happiness, it buys off misery

      The pursuit of freedom from problems, rather than the pursuit of freedom to do certain things, contributes significantly to an individual's quality of life. Naval Ravikant's perspective on this shift from desiring freedom to do, to freedom from, resonates with the speaker. The speaker shares his personal experience of feeling extreme relief after completing a business deal, which brought him financial security and freedom from financial stress. He also discusses his desire to buy things that eliminate problems, such as infinite socks, once financial security is achieved. The speaker acknowledges that money does not buy happiness, but it does buy off misery, and that being rich is a great experience. In essence, the freedom from problems is a crucial aspect of a good life, and financial security is a significant step towards achieving that freedom.

    • Fear of losing identity beyond professional rolesFear of identity loss can overshadow money concerns and hinder personal growth. Recognizing and addressing these fears is important for personal evolution.

      Fear of identity and the struggle with defining oneself beyond a professional title or role can be a significant challenge, especially after a long period of holding a specific identity. Money concerns can often be overshadowed by the fear of losing a defined identity and the uncertainty of what comes next. For instance, the speaker shares how he feared the loss of identity when he transitioned from being a founder to an employee. He also mentions how he initially started blogging for fun, but later turned it into a business, and how he still struggles with defining himself beyond these roles. It's important to recognize and address these fears and understand that personal growth and identity evolution are natural parts of life. The speaker also expresses gratitude for no longer having to deal with financial and administrative tasks, which had been a source of stress for him. For listeners of the podcast, there is no change to expect, as the entire exec team continues to listen to and support it.

    • Invest in what aligns with your vision and valuesSupport and amplify like-minded businesses, preserve their unique qualities, and consider strategic investments to save time and resources

      When it comes to business growth, it's important to invest in what aligns with your vision and values. The speakers in this discussion emphasized the importance of supporting and amplifying the work of others whose goals and mission resonate with yours. They also highlighted the significance of preserving the unique qualities and cultures of the businesses or teams you invest in. From a larger company's perspective, buying an existing business or asset can save time and resources compared to building from scratch. For small businesses or entrepreneurs, understanding this rationale can help inform strategic decisions about when to build versus buy, based on the specific opportunities and costs involved.

    • Being in the right place at the right time, having a strong team, and unique value proposition matter in business dealsSuccessful business deals depend on timing, teamwork, and having a unique product or content that sets the business apart from competitors. Preparation, understanding legal requirements, and a strong team are crucial.

      The success of a business deal can depend on a combination of factors including timing, team, and having a unique value proposition. The speaker, who was involved in his first deal, emphasized the importance of being in the right place at the right time, having a strong team, and having a unique product or content that sets the business apart from competitors. He also mentioned the challenges of working with lawyers and the importance of understanding the legal and regulatory requirements when selling to a public company. Additionally, he shared an amusing anecdote about the unexpected conversation with the acquiring company's CEO that led them to bond over their shared love for Conor McGregor. Overall, the speaker's experience highlights the importance of being prepared, having a strong team, and having a unique value proposition in the business world.

    • Adhering to trading windows and company policiesFailure to follow trading windows and company policies can result in legal consequences, even if no insider information is disclosed.

      It's important to adhere to trading windows and company policies to avoid potential legal consequences. The speaker, Karen, made a mistake by selling stocks outside of the trading window and was fortunate that she hadn't disclosed insider information. The conversation then shifted to the potential growth of their media company and the recruitment of talented individuals. Despite the focus on the deal and its aftermath, the speakers expressed their excitement about the future of their media endeavors and encouraged listeners to join them if they were talented and interested.

    • Learning from Successes and Mistakes in BusinessAdaptability, networking, and being proactive are crucial for business growth. Learn from mistakes and successes, continuously seek new info, and combine hard work, strategic planning, and a willingness to evolve.

      Having a clear business strategy, understanding your market, and being open to new opportunities can help you grow your business or even lead to the acquisition of another company. Kieran and Sean shared their experiences and insights, emphasizing the importance of adaptability, networking, and being proactive in the business world. They encouraged listeners to learn from their mistakes and successes, and to continuously seek out new information and opportunities. Ultimately, the key to success in business is a combination of hard work, strategic planning, and a willingness to evolve and adapt to changing market conditions. So, if you're looking to start or grow a business, listen to this discussion and take away as much valuable information as you can.

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