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    #158 - Brian Deer: A tale of scientific fraud—exposing Andrew Wakefield and the origin of the belief that vaccines cause autism

    enApril 19, 2021

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    • The misconception of vaccines causing autismDespite debunked claims linking the MMR vaccine to autism, the belief persists. It's crucial to seek accurate information and understand that the vast majority of scientific research supports the safety and efficacy of vaccines.

      The belief that vaccines cause autism stems from a controversial study published in 1998 by former physician Andrew Wakefield and his collaborators. This study suggested a link between the MMR vaccine and autism, but it has since been debunked due to fraudulent data and ethical concerns. Investigative journalist Brian Deere delved into this story in his book, "The Doctor Who Fooled the World," revealing the true origins of this misconception. It's important to understand that this idea is not based on sound scientific evidence and that the vast majority of scientific research continues to support the safety and efficacy of vaccines. The convenience of holding onto opinions without fully understanding their origins can be harmful, and it's crucial to seek out accurate information to make informed decisions about our health and well-being.

    • A surgeon's relentless pursuit of an infectious cause for Crohn's diseaseA surgeon's single-minded obsession with proving an infectious cause for Crohn's disease, despite contradictory evidence and the complex nature of the disease, is a cautionary tale about the dangers of dogmatic thinking in scientific research.

      The researcher in question, despite his background as a surgeon and his early ambition to become one, demonstrated an unusually fanatical obsession with proving a specific infectious agent caused a particular disease, even when faced with contradictory evidence. This obsession made it challenging to present him as a heroic or sympathetic character in a story. His alleged eureka moment, which occurred in a pub in Toronto in the late 1980s, involved him pondering the cause of Crohn's disease and considering the possibility of an infectious agent causing the disease, inspired by the recent discovery of the HIV virus as the cause of AIDS. However, his unwavering belief in this theory, despite the lack of evidence and the baffling nature of Crohn's disease, made it difficult to give him a positive start in the story.

    • The link between measles virus and Crohn's disease discovered by Dr. Andrew WakefieldDr. Wakefield's focus on proving his hypothesis rather than disproving it, and lack of formal scientific training, contrasts with the scientific method where the goal is to test and disprove hypotheses.

      The discovery of the potential link between measles virus and Crohn's disease by Dr. Andrew Wakefield was a groundbreaking moment in medical research. However, his approach to scientific inquiry, which involved focusing on proving his hypothesis right rather than trying to disprove it, is now viewed as a significant flaw. Wakefield, who was not formally trained in science, missed an opportunity to critically examine his own ideas and question his assumptions. This approach contrasts with the scientific method, where the goal is to design experiments to test the hypothesis and look for ways to disprove it. The importance of scientific training in medicine was also emphasized, as it is crucial for understanding the scientific method and developing the skills necessary to critically evaluate evidence.

    • Andrew Wakefield's research approach based on consistencyDespite lack of reproducible results using advanced techniques, Andrew Wakefield remained committed to his hypothesis linking measles virus to Crohn's disease, using the term 'consistent' loosely to justify his findings.

      The approach of Andrew Wakefield to research, particularly in his hypothesis that the measles virus causes Crohn's disease, was based on consistency rather than rigorous scientific methods. He would use the term "consistent" extensively, but this word lost meaning as it could be applied to any unrelated findings. Wakefield's commitment to his hypothesis did not waver even when other researchers using advanced techniques like PCR could not replicate his results. The scientific community, while acknowledging the potential significance of his hypothesis, began to question the validity of his methods as the gold standard for research shifted towards more rigorous techniques like PCR. By the late 1990s, Wakefield's work was met with skepticism and criticism.

    • Reactions to Wakefield's claims about measles and Crohn's diseaseThe scientific community was divided over Wakefield's claims about measles causing Crohn's disease, with some supporting him and others seeing his work as fraudulent. Concerns about inappropriate controls and concocted results led to a lack of consensus, as compelling evidence from multiple centers showed measles was not a causal factor.

      The scientific community's reaction to Andrew Wakefield's claims about the measles virus causing Crohn's disease was divided. While some scientists believed in his work, others saw it as fraudulent. There were concerns about his use of inappropriate controls in his microscopic work, and some even accused him of concocting results. Professor Tom McDonald, a renowned scientist, held this view and refused to work with Wakefield. The lack of consensus on Wakefield's findings was significant because there was compelling evidence from multiple centers that measles was not a causal factor in Crohn's disease. Wakefield dismissed these other centers' findings, but his claim that measles could be detected through microscopic immune history techniques, even when it was below the level of detection by PCR, was absurd and laughable to many in the scientific community. This belief was further solidified when Wakefield's thesis underwent a significant change and became the main story in his infamous 1998 paper in The Lancet, which was later exposed as fraudulent. Despite this, the world moved on, accepting the existence of a small group of doctors who maintained that measles caused Crohn's disease in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

    • A lawyer, a mother, and a surgeon's beliefs led to a controversial report linking the MMR vaccine to autismExternal influences, including a lawyer's desire for a case and a mother's belief in vaccine harm, can impact scientific research findings, emphasizing the importance of rigorous research methods.

      The publication of a controversial and poorly researched report linking the MMR vaccine to autism was driven by a combination of factors, including a lawyer's desire to find a doctor to support his belief in the vaccine's harmful effects, a mother's belief that the vaccine had caused her child's neurological damage, and a bowel surgeon's theory about measles causing Crohn's disease. The report gained attention due to the lack of credible doctors in the UK who supported the idea that vaccines caused autism, and the mother's need to find other affected families to sue the vaccine manufacturers in the UK. The report, which initially focused on Crohn's disease, eventually shifted to autism due to the lawyer's focus on the condition. The report's publication and subsequent retracting by The Lancet highlights the importance of rigorous scientific research and the potential for external influences on scientific findings.

    • Investigating a possible link between MMR vaccine and autismA controversial scheme in the late 1990s led by Jackie Fletcher and Wakefield aimed to prove a connection between inflammatory bowel disease and autism using the MMR vaccine, which sparked the anti-vaccine movement despite later scientific challenges

      The belief linking the MMR vaccine to autism emerged from a controversial scheme in the late 1990s. At the time, autism was a newly recognized diagnostic category, and a group led by Jackie Fletcher, with the help of lawyer Richard Barr, began investigating a possible link between the MMR vaccine and autism. They made a grant application to the Legal Aid Board, which funded the research, with Wakefield leading the investigation. The proposal was made before any of the children in the subsequent 12-child study had been investigated. The group aimed to prove that inflammatory bowel disease and autism were connected. The Lancet published their paper in February 1998, which sparked widespread concern and ultimately led to the anti-vaccine movement. It's important to note that the medical establishment did not challenge the paper at the time, and it wasn't until later that the scientific community began to question its validity.

    • The role of case series in medical researchWhile case series have contributed to the discovery of many diseases, their validity depends on rigorous scientific methods and ethical conduct. Misrepresentations in a 1998 study linking the MMR vaccine to autism underscore the importance of scrutinizing research beyond its text.

      Case series, which are collections of anecdotes about patients, have played a significant role in the discovery and characterization of various diseases, including Crohn's disease, autism, and AIDS. However, the validity and accuracy of a case series depend on the scientific method and ethical conduct of the research. In the case of a 1998 study linking the MMR vaccine to autism, it was later discovered that some parts of the study were misrepresented, including the recruitment of subjects and the timeline of their symptoms. This raises concerns about the reliability of the study and its impact on the public's perception of vaccines. It's crucial to look beyond the text of a research paper and investigate the background, methods, and ethical considerations to fully understand its significance.

    • Children with autism underwent unnecessary invasive proceduresChildren with autism were subjected to invasive medical procedures without proper ethical approval, causing distress and harm to some, and many did not even have the condition being studied.

      A group of children with autism were subjected to invasive medical procedures without proper ethical approval or consideration for their wellbeing. These children, some of whom were brought from great distances, underwent procedures including colonoscopies, ileocolonoscopies, upper endoscopies, spinal taps, MRI scans, EEGs, barium meals, and blood tests. Some children experienced significant distress during these procedures, with some requiring hospitalization or emergency medical attention. The procedures were intended to study inflammatory bowel disease, but many of the children did not actually have this condition, instead suffering from severe constipation. The lack of proper ethical oversight and disregard for the children's wellbeing is a significant ethical concern.

    • Linking measles virus to Crohn's diseaseDr. Wakefield's team suspected a link between measles virus and Crohn's disease but couldn't find it using a gold standard PCR test, leading to controversy and the anti-vaccine movement.

      During the late 1990s, Dr. Andrew Wakefield and his team conducted research on children with inflammatory bowel disease, suspecting a link between measles virus and Crohn's disease. They performed numerous endoscopies and biopsies, focusing particularly on the small intestine where Crohn's disease is most commonly found. Despite normal blood test results, they believed that measles virus might be present but undetected due to the limitations of current testing methods. A scientist working under Wakefield's direction developed a gold standard PCR test for measles virus, and the team used it to test the biopsied tissue. However, they couldn't find measles virus in any of the children's samples. Wakefield argued that the PCR test wasn't sensitive enough and had previously criticized its use in favor of immunohistochemistry. However, in this study, he opted for PCR due to a grant application requirement for strain-specific sequencing to prove the virus came from vaccines. Despite the negative results, Wakefield's research sparked controversy and fueled the anti-vaccine movement.

    • The Importance of Sound Scientific Methods in Investigating Health RisksProper scientific methods and rigor are crucial in researching potential health risks. Wakefield's MMR vaccine-autism study lacked scientific merit due to flawed research design, lack of oversight, and unreliable testing methods.

      The discussion highlights the importance of proper scientific methods and rigor in research, particularly in the investigation of potential health risks like the link between the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine and autism. The conversation emphasizes that Wakefield's research, which suggested a connection between the MMR vaccine and autism, was not based on sound scientific principles. He did not follow standard procedures to test his hypothesis, instead focusing on proving it right. Additionally, the grant application lacked proper scientific oversight and scrutiny, which further undermined the credibility of the research. The case also underscores the significance of understanding the limitations of various testing methods, such as immunohistochemistry and PCR, and the importance of proper controls in scientific investigations.

    • Discovering PCR technology in the 1980s and its applicationsPCR technology, discovered in the 1980s, uses polymerase enzymes to replicate DNA or create complementary RNA strands through heating and cooling cycles, exponentially increasing the amount of material for analysis, revolutionizing molecular biology and essential for coronavirus testing and crime scene investigations.

      The Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) technology, discovered in the 1980s by Kerry Mullis, is a crucial component in various applications, including coronavirus testing and crime scene investigations. This technology relies on polymerase enzymes, which facilitate the replication of DNA or the creation of complementary strands for RNA. The PCR process involves heating and cooling test tubes containing samples, causing the DNA or RNA strands to split apart and allowing a polymerase enzyme to create new complementary strands. This process repeats exponentially, leading to an astronomical increase in the amount of DNA or RNA available for analysis. This technology's discovery in the Yellowstone National Park revolutionized molecular biology and has become an essential tool in modern science.

    • Determining the presence and quantity of specific DNA sequences using PCRPCR is a lab technique used to make multiple copies of specific DNA sequences for further analysis, involving primers and probes, heat and cooling cycles, and highly sensitive to errors and contamination, with clinical-grade assays having higher reliability in detecting absence of target sequence.

      Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) is a lab technique used to make multiple copies of specific DNA sequences for further analysis. It involves the use of primers and probes, which mark out specific sequences and identify the target nucleotides respectively. The process is monitored through heat and cooling cycles, and the resulting curve helps determine the presence and quantity of the target sequence. However, the simplicity of the process can be misleading, as it was not as straightforward in the late 1990s, and the technology is highly sensitive, making it prone to errors and contamination. Additionally, clinical-grade PCR assays, which undergo greater regulatory scrutiny and standardization, have a higher negative predictive value, meaning they are more reliable at detecting the absence of a target sequence, than positive predictive value. O'Leary's use of a research-grade PCR machine in 1998 for diagnosing children with Crohn's disease was not certified for clinical use, and the lack of clear guidelines on interpreting results beyond 35 cycles led to potential misinterpretations.

    • Study on MMR vaccine and measles in children with developmental issues questioned due to lack of transparencyThe research by O'Leary and Wakefield on the MMR vaccine and measles in children with developmental issues was questioned due to their lack of transparency in reporting sequence data, raising doubts about the validity of their findings and ethical concerns.

      The research conducted by John O'Leary and Andrew Wakefield on the alleged link between the MMR vaccine and measles in children with developmental issues was questionable. O'Leary reported finding measles virus in nine out of ten children, but he never produced any sequence data to determine if it was from nature, the MMR vaccine, or a laboratory strain. This lack of transparency raised serious concerns about the validity of their research. The lawsuit against the drug companies never went to trial due to the absence of sequence data from these children. The children in Wakefield's 1998 paper were a select group of those who had come to the hospital to allege vaccine injury and join the lawsuit. The lack of disclosure and transparency in their research methods and findings casts doubt on their claims and raises ethical concerns.

    • Contaminated research and misinformation fueled the belief that MMR vaccine causes autismFailure to follow proper procedures in MMR vaccine research led to contaminated findings and spread of misinformation, fueling the belief that the vaccine causes autism

      The belief that the MMR vaccine causes autism was manufactured through a series of events involving contaminated research and misinformation. This belief, held by thousands of families worldwide, has provided the backbone for the anti-vaccine movement. A key part of this controversy involves samples used in research, which were not properly sequenced or stored. Some samples were frozen in liquid nitrogen for scientific research, while others were preserved in formalin for histopathology. The formalin preservation process can make the nucleic acid less accessible, requiring more cycles to reach the same genetic material in a PCR test. This difference in results could have significant implications for research outcomes. The failure to follow proper procedures in this research led to the contamination of the findings and the spread of misinformation about the MMR vaccine and autism.

    • Study linking MMR vaccine to autism questioned due to data manipulation allegationsA landmark study linking the MMR vaccine to autism was called into question due to allegations of data manipulation. Discrepancies in the data and inconsistencies in children's medical records cast doubt on the study's validity.

      The validity of a landmark study linking the MMR vaccine to autism was called into question due to allegations of data manipulation. The researchers, led by Dr. Andrew Wakefield, faced opposition from vaccine manufacturers and the pharmaceutical industry, who hired a leading PCR expert to challenge their findings. The expert, Dr. Steve Bustin, discovered inconsistencies in the data, including reported empty wells that contained measles virus and vice versa. These discrepancies suggested human intervention to manipulate the machine's results. The consequences of such corporate manipulation, as seen in cases like Enron, can be severe, including legal action and potential jail time. Furthermore, a review of the children's medical records revealed inconsistencies between the reported findings and the original data. These revelations cast doubt on the validity of the study and its claims of a link between the MMR vaccine and autism.

    • The MMR Vaccine Controversy: A False Claim and Its AftermathIn the late 1990s, a doctor falsely claimed that the MMR vaccine caused autism and inflammatory bowel disease. The claim was debunked, but the doctor continued to spread the narrative, leading to numerous lawsuits and the unsealing of documents. No new evidence was found to support the claim.

      In the late 1990s, a doctor named Andrew Wakefield falsely claimed that the MMR vaccine caused autism and inflammatory bowel disease in children through a published paper in The Lancet. Brian Deer, a journalist, investigated Wakefield's claims and discovered that the paper contained numerous inaccuracies and misrepresentations. Deer was able to access the children's medical records through a court order and proved that none of the 12 children in the study had autism or inflammatory bowel disease at the time of their vaccination. Wakefield's medical license was revoked, and The Lancet retracted the paper. However, Wakefield continued to spread his claims, even suing Deer and the Sunday Times, which published Deer's investigation. These lawsuits ultimately failed, but they did lead to the unsealing of previously sealed documents, which Deer used in his book, "The Doctor Who Fooled the World." Another significant aspect of the story is the alleged CDC whistleblower, Dr. William Thompson, who claimed that the CDC had concealed data showing a link between the MMR vaccine and autism. However, Deer's investigation found that Thompson had not provided any new evidence and had not acted alone. The Vax movie, which popularized the anti-vaccine narrative, was released after Deer's investigation was completed.

    • Exposing Andrew Wakefield's False Accusations Against CDCThe book 'Doctor Who and the Wakefield War' reveals how a discredited doctor spread misinformation about CDC researchers, contributing to the anti-vaccination movement, and raises questions about research integrity and potential consequences.

      The book "Doctor Who and the Wakefield War" exposes the actions of Andrew Wakefield, a discredited doctor who falsely accused researchers at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) of fraud. Wakefield's accusations, which were debunked, contributed to the spread of anti-vaccination sentiments. The book reveals how Wakefield's behavior mirrored his accusations against others. Despite the evidence against him, Wakefield continues to spread misinformation and lies. The New England Journal of Medicine describes those who spread anti-vaccination propaganda as having a mistrust of government and manufacturers, conspiratorial thinking, and a tendency to substitute emotional anecdotes for data. The importance of the book goes beyond vaccines and vaccine safety; it raises questions about the integrity of researchers and the potential consequences of their actions. The author's goal was not to convince people to vaccinate their children but to investigate the potential for misconduct in hospitals and laboratories where our lives may depend.

    • Understanding the origins of the anti-vaccine movementThe author's book emphasizes truth, evidence, and rigorous peer review to combat the anti-vaccine movement, but also acknowledges past unethical medical practices that contributed to mistrust and harm.

      The book "The Healthy Skeptic" by Peter Attia is not just about vaccines but more about how science can be corrupted, leading to the rise of the anti-vaccine movement. The author emphasizes the importance of truth and evidence, as his contract with Johns Hopkins University requires him to tell the truth, and the book has undergone rigorous peer review and fact-checking. However, the saddest part of the story is the unethical treatment of children in a hospital two decades ago, which left many parents questioning their actions and causing long-lasting harm. Attia hopes that understanding the origins of the anti-vaccine movement can help prevent further harm. The book provides detailed information, and listeners are encouraged to join a membership program for exclusive content and benefits. The podcast is for general informational purposes only and not a substitute for professional medical advice.

    • Maintaining transparency in business through public disclosureTransparency builds trust and accountability with stakeholders. Peter Aitamurto sets an example by publicly listing his investments and advisory roles on his website.

      Transparency is crucial in business, especially for investors and advisors. Peter Aitamurto emphasizes this by maintaining an up-to-date list of all the companies he invests in or advises on his website, peteratiamd.com/about. This not only builds trust with stakeholders but also ensures accountability. By sharing this information publicly, he sets an example for other professionals to follow suit. This transparency fosters a culture of trust and openness, which is essential for building strong business relationships and maintaining a good reputation. Furthermore, it demonstrates Peter's commitment to ethical business practices and his dedication to being transparent with his audience. Overall, the importance of transparency cannot be overstated, and it is a key component of successful business relationships.

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    • Promising results of klotho in primate models, and the importance of finding an appropriate therapeutic dose before moving to human trials [1:08:00];
    • Speculating why a single klotho injection has such long-lasting effects [1:25:30];
    • Potential cognitive benefits of klotho in humans, the impact of the KL-VS genetic variant on klotho levels, and the need for human trials to confirm these effects [1:27:45];
    • The interaction between the KL-VS genetic variant and APOE4 and how it impacts risk of Alzheimer’s disease [1:34:45];
    • The significance of klotho levels: studies linking lower levels to increased mortality and the broader implications for organ health and disease prevention [1:47:15];
    • Measuring klotho levels and determining an individual’s KL-VS status [1:52:15];
    • The promising potential of klotho for Alzheimer’s disease treatment, and the importance of philanthropy for funding research [1:58:00]; and
    • More.

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    #302 - Confronting a metabolic epidemic: understanding liver health and how to prevent, diagnose, and manage liver disease | Julia Wattacheril, M.D., M.P.H.

    #302 - Confronting a metabolic epidemic: understanding liver health and how to prevent, diagnose, and manage liver disease | Julia Wattacheril, M.D., M.P.H.

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    Julia Wattacheril is a physician scientist and director of the Metabolic Dysfunction Associated Steatotic Liver Disease (MASLD) program at Columbia University Irving Medical Center. In this episode, Julia delves deep into the complex world of liver health, beginning with a foundational overview of liver physiology. She provides an in-depth look at how alcohol impacts liver function, breaking down the metabolism of ethanol and its detrimental effects. Julia then shifts the focus to understanding liver function tests and optimal enzyme levels, providing a detailed explanation of AST and ALT and elucidating why fluctuations in these levels may or may not be concerning. She provides a primer on the four major stages of liver disease, discussing risk and emphasizing the importance of early diagnosis. Julia highlights the role of liver disease in increasing the risk of cancer and cardiovascular disease and covers in detail the various strategies for diagnosing, treating, and preventing the progression of liver disease.

    We discuss:

    • Julia’s training, the importance of liver health, and the challenges and innovations of hepatology [3:15];
    • The complex and crucial functionality of the liver, its four most essential functions, and more [8:45];
    • Liver injuries: historical and evolving understanding of causal factors, and the progression to liver diseases and cancer [13:15];
    • How the liver metabolizes nutrients and what happens in the presence of excess calories or alcohol [24:45];
    • Methods of diagnosing liver disease and how insights guide treatment and management strategies [33:30];
    • The poisonous nature of ethanol to the liver [40:30];
    • Varied responses to alcohol, damaging effects of alcohol beyond the liver, and the process of advising patients on their alcohol consumption [47:15];
    • Understanding liver enzymes AST and ALT—interpreting levels, lifestyle factors that affect them, and diagnostic approaches [58:30];
    • Interpreting liver function tests for fatty liver disease, and the challenges of diagnosing liver pathologies, particularly in children versus adults [1:13:15];
    • Comprehensive liver health assessments via imaging and various diagnostic tools to prevent overlooking potential liver pathologies [1:18:45];
    • Potential impact of recreational drugs, statins, and other medications on liver function test results [1:26:45];
    • Shifting nomenclature from NAFLD to MASLD to reflect accuracy in the underlying pathophysiology and understanding of liver diseases [1:30:30];
    • Pathophysiology of MASLD, the need for proactive screening, and the significance of liver fat percentage as an indicator of metabolic health [1:36:30];
    • The importance of screening for rare conditions alongside common metabolic diseases associated with fatty liver accumulation [1:42:45];
    • Practical strategies for managing MAFLD [1:45:30];
    • The impact of fructose consumption on liver health and the challenges of disentangling its effects from other factors like obesity and insulin resistance [1:52:45];
    • The potential of GLP-1 agonists for the treatment of MASLD [1:57:45];
    • How the four stages of liver disease have evolved [2:00:30];
    • Increased cancer and heart disease risk associated with early-stage MAFLD [2:05:15];
    • Emerging drugs and therapies for addressing fat accumulation and fibrosis related to MAFLD [2:12:15];
    • Peter’s major takeaways [2:18:45]; and
    • More.

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    #301 - AMA #59: Inflammation: its impact on aging and disease risk, and how to identify, prevent, and reduce it

    #301 - AMA #59: Inflammation: its impact on aging and disease risk, and how to identify, prevent, and reduce it

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    In this “Ask Me Anything” (AMA) episode, Peter delves into the often misunderstood concept of inflammation. He first defines inflammation and differentiates between acute inflammation and chronic inflammation, the latter of which is linked to aging and a plethora of age-related diseases. Peter breaks down the intricate relationship between chronic inflammation, obesity, and metabolic health, and highlights the signs that might suggest someone may be suffering from chronic inflammation. From there, the conversation centers on actionable advice and practical steps one can take to manage and minimize chronic inflammation. He explores how diet plays a crucial role, including the potential benefits of elimination diets, and he examines the impact of lifestyle factors such as exercise, sleep, and stress management. Additionally, he discusses the relevance of food inflammatory tests and concludes by examining the potential benefits and drawbacks of drugs and supplements in managing inflammation.

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    We discuss:

    • Defining inflammation (and the cultural impact of Napoleon Dynamite) [1:45];
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    • Understanding and diagnosing chronic inflammation: blood tests and other approaches, and challenges with measurement [20:00];
    • Factors that contribute to low-level chronic inflammation [28:00];
    • Minimizing inflammation through diet [29:45];
    • The important role of fiber for gut health and inflammation [33:45];
    • A closer look at the impact of trans fats and saturated fats on overall health [34:45];
    • Why Peter prefers dietary fiber from food sources over supplements [38:30];
    • Debunking “superfoods”: emphasizing proven methods over marketing claims for reducing inflammation [39:00];
    • Is there any value in over-the-counter food inflammatory tests? [42:30];
    • Food elimination diets: how they work, symptoms and markers to watch, challenges and limitations [45:15];
    • Identifying dietary triggers for gut-related symptoms through low-FODMAP diets like the “carnivore diet” [51:15];
    • Dairy: the complex role of dairy on inflammation and individual responses [55:00];
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    • The potential impact of chronic psychological stressors on inflammation [1:13:00];
    • The impact of oral health on inflammation and overall well-being [1:15:00];
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    #300 - Special episode: Peter on exercise, fasting, nutrition, stem cells, geroprotective drugs, and more — promising interventions or just noise?

    #300 - Special episode: Peter on exercise, fasting, nutrition, stem cells, geroprotective drugs, and more — promising interventions or just noise?

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    In this special edition celebrating 300 episodes of The Drive, Peter discusses a variety of popular topics and health interventions and classifies them based on their level of evidence and relevance using the following categories: proven, promising, fuzzy, noise, and nonsense. Peter first delves into the topic of geroprotective molecules, covering rapamycin, metformin, NAD and its precursors, and resveratrol. Next, he explores the significance of metrics like VO2 max and muscle mass, as well as emerging concepts like blood flow restriction and stem cells. The conversation extends to nutrition, addressing questions surrounding long-term fasting, sugar consumption, sugar substitutes, and the contentious role of red meat in cancer. Peter not only provides his current stance on each topic—most of which have been covered in great detail in the previous 300 episodes—but also reflects on how his opinion may have evolved over the years.

    We discuss:

    • Defining the categories of “proven, promising, fuzzy, noise, and nonsense” [3:15];
    • Rapamycin [9:30];
    • Metformin [17:00];
    • NAD and its precursors [24:30];
    • Resveratrol [32:45];
    • The importance of VO2 max, muscle mass, and muscular strength for lifespan [38:15];
    • Blood flow restriction (BFR) training [44:00];
    • Using stem cells to treat osteoarthritis or injury [51:30];
    • Fasting as a tool for longevity (and why Peter stopped his fasting protocol) [55:45];
    • The energy balance theory [1:06:30];
    • The idea that sugar is poison [1:12:00];
    • The idea that sugar substitutes are dangerous [1:22:15];
    • The debate on red meat and cancer [1:28:45]; and
    • More.

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    Special episode with Dax Shepard: F1 and the 30th anniversary of Ayrton Senna’s death

    Special episode with Dax Shepard: F1 and the 30th anniversary of Ayrton Senna’s death

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    This is a special episode of The Drive with Peter’s friend and fellow car enthusiast Dax Shepard. In this podcast, which commemorates the 30th anniversary of the death of Brazilian Formula One legend Ayrton Senna, Dax sits down with Peter to better understand what made Senna so special and why Peter remains an enormous fan. This conversation focuses on Senna’s life, the circumstances of his death, and his lasting impact and legacy on the sport of F1.

    We discuss:

    • Peter’s interest in motorsports began as a child [2:30];
    • The drama and dangers of F1 [6:00];
    • What made Senna special [13:00];
    • What Senna meant to Brazilians [24:00];
    • The cause of the fatal crash [28:15];
    • Why Peter is obsessed with Senna [40:30];
    • Being the best versus having the best record [43:30];
    • Senna’s unique driving style and incredible intuition about automotive engineering [46:30];
    • Back to the day of the dreadful race [53:00];
    • What Peter believes caused the crash [1:02:45];
    • Views on dying young, in the prime of life [1:13:00];
    • Senna lives on in his foundation and in safety changes adopted by F1 [1:21:00];
    • Statistics aren’t enough for fandom, and why people like who they do [1:24:15];
    • The biggest difference between F1 today and F1 in the 80s [1:28:30];
    • Senna’s driving superpower [1:30:30];
    • The fastest drivers currently in F1 [1:38:30];
    • Current F1 obsessions [1:45:00];
    • How hard it is to do what the top F1 drivers do [1:50:15];
    • Dax’s love of motorcycles and his AMG E63 station wagon [1:52:15];
    • Awesome Senna mementos from Etsy [2:01:15];
    • What makes specialists interesting, and Max’s devotion to F1 [2:10:15];
    • What Senna might have done if he had not died that day [2:14:00];
    • Michael Schumacher and Max Verstappen are also top F1 drivers [2:17:30];
    • Interlagos in Sao Paulo Brazil is always an incredible experience [2:18:45]; and
    • More.

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    #299 ‒ Optimizing muscle protein synthesis: the crucial impact of protein quality and quantity, and the key role of resistance training | Luc van Loon, Ph.D.

    #299 ‒ Optimizing muscle protein synthesis: the crucial impact of protein quality and quantity, and the key role of resistance training | Luc van Loon, Ph.D.

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    Luc van Loon is an internationally renowned expert in skeletal muscle metabolism. In this episode, Luc starts with an exploration of the roles of insulin and triglycerides in endurance exercise, highlighting their impact on skeletal muscle metabolism, and he offers profound insights into the significance of protein in this context. He elucidates how different protein types and forms influence muscle protein synthesis rates, exploring the nuances of protein absorption, digestibility, amino acid quality, and their implications for performance and recovery. Delving deeper, he differentiates between animal and plant protein sources, unraveling the distinctive properties of various protein types, from the differences between whey and casein to the emerging trends in collagen protein supplementation. Moreover, Luc dissects the intricate connections among physical activity, lean muscle mass, muscle protein synthesis induced by resistance training, and dietary protein.

    We discuss:

    • Luc’s background and insights about fuel selection during exercise [3:30];
    • Fuel utilization during endurance exercise [9:30];
    • Fat metabolism, intramuscular lipids, and the nutritional dynamics of endurance sports [17:15];
    • The optimal window for replenishing intramuscular fat stores and glycogen post-exercise [25:15];
    • Luc’s interest in protein metabolism and exploration of amino acids' dual role as building blocks and signaling molecules in driving muscle protein synthesis [32:15];
    • How protein metabolism differs between sedentary individuals and those engaged in predominantly strength training or endurance training [38:45];
    • The basics of how proteins are digested and absorbed, and how muscle protein synthesis is measured [50:30];
    • How factors like food texture, cooking methods, and protein composition impact muscle protein synthesis, and the importance of protein distribution throughout the day [59:45];
    • Differences in whey and casein proteins, and the ability of ingested protein to stimulate muscle protein synthesis [1:03:30];
    • Dietary protein distribution and quantity for the maximization of muscle protein synthesis [1:09:00];
    • Muscle loss with age and inactivity and the importance of resistance exercise to maintain type II muscle fibers [1:17:15];
    • Differences between whey and casein proteins, and the importance of both quantity and quality of protein sources [1:28:30];
    • Optimizing muscle protein synthesis: exercise, timing of protein intake, protein quality, and more [1:37:00];
    • How to preserve muscle while trying to lose weight [1:46:00];
    • Anabolic resistance and overcoming it with physical activity [1:55:45];
    • Importance of protein intake and physical activity in hospitalized patients [2:06:30];
    • Reviewing the efficacy of collagen supplements [2:13:30];
    • Plant-based diets: how to ensure a balance of amino acids, and other considerations [2:20:30];
    • Future research: understanding protein metabolism in the brain [2:23:45]; and
    • More.

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