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    177. What Does Success Look Like?

    en-usJanuary 07, 2024

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    • Understanding the Components of a Successful and Fulfilling LifeMarty Seligman's PERMA theory suggests Positive Emotion, Engagement, Relationships, Meaning, and Achievement as essential elements of a good life, providing valuable insights into the components of a successful and fulfilling life.

      Success is a complex concept with various definitions, and it can be measured through different criteria such as achievement of goals, happiness and fulfillment, financial stability, personal growth and development, resilience, a balanced life, and integrity and ethics. Marty Seligman, a renowned psychologist, proposes a theory called PERMA, which includes Positive Emotion, Engagement, Relationships, Meaning, and Achievement as essential elements of a good life. While there might be debates on the exhaustiveness and exclusivity of this list, it provides valuable insights into the components of a successful and fulfilling life. Ultimately, the definition of success may differ from person to person, but understanding these elements can help individuals evaluate their own progress towards a life well-lived.

    • Defining Success PersonallyPeople believe they're achieving success based on their own definitions, expanding the definition of success to include personal elements like emotions, relationships, meaning, and accomplishment.

      Achievement and success are often perceived as external recognitions, but according to a survey by Populous and Gallup, most people believe they are achieving success based on their own definitions. Marty Seligman's PERMA model expands the definition of success by including elements like positive emotions, relationships, meaning, and accomplishment. The accomplishment aspect in PERMA is still personal and subjective, meaning that individuals can define their goals and measure their progress based on their own terms, not just societal expectations. This perspective challenges the common notion of success as external achievements, such as a good job or a degree, and encourages individuals to focus on their personal growth and well-being. Alain de Botton, in his TED Talk, also emphasizes the importance of defining success on one's own terms and rejecting societal pressures. In essence, success is a deeply personal experience, and individuals should strive to live a life that aligns with their values and goals, rather than societal expectations.

    • Judging others based on jobs: Job SnobberyPeople judge others based on jobs, but personal goals and continuous self-improvement matter more in shaping our experiences and relationships.

      People often judge others based on small aspects of their lives, such as their jobs, and use that to form complete opinions about them. This phenomenon, referred to as "job snobbery," can limit relationships and interactions. However, the goals we set for ourselves carry more weight in our everyday experiences, and it's essential to recognize that societal norms and expectations are not automatically internalized. Successful people often report not feeling like they've reached the pinnacle, emphasizing the importance of setting new goals. Ultimately, we're constantly comparing reality to our goals, and it's essential to remember that this comparison can impact our perceptions and experiences of life.

    • Defining Success Beyond Athletic AchievementsSuccess is not just about external achievements or consensus, it's also about personal growth and self-definition. Michael Phelps, an Olympic gold medalist, learned this lesson by broadening his identity beyond his athletic accomplishments and prioritizing his personal needs.

      Success is not solely defined by external achievements or consensus, but also by personal growth and self-definition. The story of Michael Phelps, the greatest male swimmer in history, illustrates this point. Despite his numerous Olympic gold medals and fame, Phelps reached a point of deep unhappiness, feeling that his identity was limited to his athletic accomplishments. He shared with the speaker that to break free from this negative mindset, he had to learn to define himself in broader terms, as a son, husband, and friend, and to recognize and prioritize his personal needs, such as the need for sunlight. This shift in perspective allowed him to move beyond his unhappiness and find a more fulfilling view of success.

    • Two sides of success: Personal goals and objective measuresSuccess encompasses personal fulfillment and objective achievements, both should be considered for a complete understanding of accomplishments and commitment to goals.

      Success is subjective and should be defined by individual goals and achievements, but it's also important to consider objective measures of achievement. According to the speaker, success can be divided into two columns on a piece of paper - one for personal goals and achievements (the left side), and one for objective measures of achievement (the right side). While the left side may be more important to some, the right side should not be ignored. In hiring, for example, looking at both columns can provide a more complete picture of a candidate's accomplishments and commitment to goals. Ultimately, success is about both personal fulfillment and objective achievement, and it's essential to consider both aspects.

    • Focusing on personal goals and striving for improvement is the key to success according to John WoodenLegendary coach John Wooden believed success is achieved through self-satisfaction in making the best effort possible, not defined by external factors like winning or losing, and emphasized personal growth and character.

      According to legendary UCLA basketball coach John Wooden, success is achieving peace of mind through self-satisfaction in making the best effort possible. Wooden, known for his winning record with 10 NCAA championships, believed that success is not defined by external factors such as winning or losing, but by one's own effort and improvement. He emphasized that character and reputation are separate, and true success comes from focusing on the left side of the page, which represents personal goals and striving for improvement, while still recognizing the importance of the right side, which includes external outcomes like winning. Wooden's philosophy highlights the importance of putting forth one's best effort and focusing on personal growth as the key to achieving success.

    • Focus on personal growth and objectivesSuccess is subjective, prioritize self-improvement, and define personal goals, rather than societal expectations or comparing to others.

      Success is subjective and individuals should focus on their personal growth and objectives, rather than comparing themselves to others or societal expectations. The champions studied are primarily concerned with improving themselves and setting new personal records, rather than competing against others. It's essential to have self-confidence and define what success means to you, regardless of the world's perception. Objective achievements like Emmy Awards or high salaries are not the only indicators of success. Personal accomplishments, such as making a difference in the lives of students or athletes, can also be significant. It's crucial to remember that success is a personal journey, and everyone's path is unique.

    • Understanding success as personal growth and achievementsFocus on personal development and competitive success, strive for excellence in all aspects of life, and be a 'good one' in any context.

      Success in life can be understood as a combination of personal growth and achievements, which can be represented as the left and right sides of a page. Kirk Flateau, a high school track coach, embodies this idea by focusing on both the personal development of his athletes and their competitive success. John Wooden's teachings on success, as mentioned in a TED talk, can be applied at any level, from high school to the professional world. The key is to strive for excellence in all aspects of life and be a "good one," no matter the context. A famous family saying, "Whatever you are, be a good one," further emphasizes this idea. An inspiring story about Marion Hanks, the speaker's grandfather, illustrates the importance of striving for perfection and the significance of achievements, even if they are as simple as earning a watch for a perfect grade point average in high school.

    • The importance of personal growth and self-assessmentA lower grade can be a catalyst for greater effort and personal growth, and it's essential to evaluate both objective and subjective aspects of our accomplishments.

      Sometimes, success is not just about objective measures or grades, but also about subjective efforts and personal growth. This was highlighted in a story about a student who received a disappointing grade despite earning objective good marks. The teacher, recognizing the student's potential, gave him a lower grade to encourage him to try harder and strive for more than just meeting the minimum requirements. This story emphasizes the importance of self-reflection and the value of evaluating both objective and subjective aspects of our accomplishments. Moreover, the episode also featured interesting facts about notable figures such as Diana Nyad, Michael Phelps, and John Wooden. For instance, contrary to popular belief, Nyad swam from Cuba to Florida instead of the other way around, and Phelps moved to Arizona to continue training with his longtime coach, Bob Bowman, rather than just for the sunny weather. Lastly, UCLA's legendary basketball coach, John Wooden, led the team to 10 NCAA championship titles, but not consecutively, as some might think. In summary, the episode provided valuable insights into the importance of personal growth and self-assessment, as well as interesting facts about notable figures in sports.

    • Importance of simplifying options for customersProfessionals can help customers make informed decisions by asking key questions and guiding them towards their desired choices, alleviating the paralysis caused by too many options.

      Learning from today's discussion on analysis paralysis is the importance of simplifying options for customers or clients without making them feel restricted. Ethan, a former jewelry store employee, shared his experience of customers getting overwhelmed with choices and leaving without making a purchase. This issue is not unique to jewelry sales but also applies to various professions, including car sales and other industries. By asking key questions and guiding customers towards their desired choices, professionals can help alleviate the paralysis caused by too many options. This approach ensures that customers make informed decisions while feeling empowered in their choices. As we wrap up, we invite you to share your definition of success in your own life by sending a voice memo to nsq@freakonomics.com. Stay tuned for next week's episode on No Stupid Questions, where we'll discuss the topic of giving children more independence. The Freakonomics Radio Network is produced by Stitcher and Renbud Radio, with research assistance from Daniel Morris Rabson and mixing by Eleanor Osborne. Follow us on Twitter at NSQ_show and visit freakonomics.com/nsq for more information.

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