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    214. Israel in court, attacks on American soldiers, and the problem with polling

    enJanuary 31, 2024

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    • Tensions in the Middle East and EuropeThe international political landscape is marked by complex issues including Middle Eastern tensions between the US and Iran, European Union elections, and potential rightward shift, as well as ongoing conflicts in Iraq and Syria involving Shia militia groups linked to Iran.

      The international political landscape is filled with complex issues, from the ongoing tensions between the US and Iran, to the European Union elections and the potential shift to the right. In the Middle East, the killing of three American soldiers in a drone attack at a US base, allegedly carried out by Shia militia groups, has raised tensions and calls for a response. These groups, which came to prominence during the US-UK invasion of Iraq, are closely linked to Iran and have played a significant role in conflicts in Iraq and Syria. In Europe, a large-scale poll suggests a rightward tilt in the upcoming elections. Meanwhile, at the EU summit, funding for Ukraine and a potential Hungarian veto loom large. Amidst these developments, it's clear that no political outcome is guaranteed, and complacency is not an option.

    • Potential US-Iran conflict deepens with attacks on US basesAttacks on US bases in Syria, Iraq, and Jordan by Iran-linked groups may draw US into deeper conflict with Iran and Iraqi govt. US response depends on identifying specific groups and attempting to degrade them. Escalation risks further conflict, including Iraqi govt asking US to withdraw.

      The attacks on American bases in Syria, Iraq, and Jordan by groups closely connected to the governments of those countries and heavily supported by Iran, could potentially draw the US into a deeper conflict with not just Iran, but also the Iraqi government. These groups have deep connections to Iran, with some members trained by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, but the level of control Iran has over their actions is questionable. The US response will depend on identifying specific groups involved and attempting to degrade them. However, if tensions escalate, there's a risk of further escalation, including the possibility of the Iraqi government asking the US to withdraw its troops. The recent attacks, along with the conflict in Gaza, provide ammunition for those who blame the US for instability in the region.

    • ICJ Rules on Potential Genocide Allegations Against IsraelThe ICJ found potential evidence of genocidal language and dire conditions in Palestinian territories, recommending Israel protect population, allow humanitarian access, and take action against hate speech.

      The International Court of Justice (ICJ) issued a damning judgment against Israel for potential violations of the Genocide Convention. The ICJ did not dismiss the case, but instead found that there may be a case to answer based on evidence of genocidal language used by senior Israeli figures and the dire conditions in the Palestinian territories. The court made recommendations for Israel to protect the Palestinian population, allow humanitarian access, and take action against those using genocidal language. The judgment was met with controversy, with some arguing it exonerates Israel and others condemning it for genocide. Despite this, it's crucial for the US, UK, and other countries to support the ICJ and its judgments to uphold a rules-based international order. The ICJ's ruling against Israel on potential genocide allegations is significant and should not be dismissed outright.

    • Israeli-Palestinian conflict: Different perspectives and media coverageDespite vastly different views on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, both sides suffer. Israeli media focuses more on their casualties, while Palestinians' suffering receives less attention. The UNRWA faces criticism and funding cuts, worsening the humanitarian crisis.

      The Israeli-Palestinian conflict continues to be a deeply divisive issue, with vastly different perspectives on the situation in Gaza. Public opinion polls suggest that the majority of Israelis remain supportive of military operations in Gaza and are not overly concerned about the suffering of Palestinians. In contrast, Palestinians and the Arab world view the situation entirely differently. The media landscape also plays a role in shaping public perception, with Israeli media reporting focusing more on Israeli casualties and less on the human cost of the conflict in Gaza. The recent killing of Israeli and American soldiers received extensive media coverage, while the deaths of thousands of Palestinians have received less attention. The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) has faced criticism and funding cuts, further exacerbating the humanitarian crisis in the region. The conflict's complexities and the differing narratives make finding a peaceful resolution a challenging task.

    • Consequences of UNRWA withdrawal for GazaThe UNRWA withdrawal risks instability and creates a power vacuum, potentially making Israel less safe in the long run.

      The withdrawal of support for UNRWA following allegations of UNRWA employees' involvement in attacks has had devastating consequences for the people of Gaza, who rely heavily on UNRWA for essential services. This action, while understandable from an Israeli perspective due to perceived Hamas involvement and atrocities, risks creating a power vacuum and instability in the region, potentially making Israel less safe in the long run. The Israeli analogy of fighting ISIS does not apply as local governments and key players are not leading the fight against Hamas. Instead, most groups are aligned with Hamas, making a stable and peaceful solution more elusive. It's crucial to find a diplomatic and collaborative approach to address the complex issues in the region and ensure the well-being of all communities involved.

    • Effective conflict resolution with terrorists requires communication and diplomacyCommunication and diplomacy are crucial for resolving conflicts with terrorist organizations. Deterrence through violence may not be effective and could increase anger, making empathy and practical arguments essential for progress.

      Effective resolution of conflicts with terrorist organizations requires communication and diplomacy, even in the face of provocation or desire for revenge. This was emphasized by Jonathan Powell, Tony Blair's former chief of staff and main negotiator on Northern Ireland, who shared his experience of dealing with such situations. Mark Sedwell, a former cabinet secretary and national security adviser, also echoed this sentiment regarding the current crisis between Israel and Palestine. The importance of diplomacy and politics cannot be overstated, especially when military responses are necessary. However, the political stances seem to be becoming more entrenched, making it difficult for progress to be made. The lack of empathy between the two communities involved in the conflict is a significant barrier to finding a peaceful solution. The use of practical arguments, rather than principled ones, is a worrying trend, and it's essential to remember that deterrence through violence may not be effective and could instead increase anger and create more enemies. The recent debates about conscription and the potential for war in the UK highlight the need for calm and rational decision-making in times of crisis.

    • UK Military Capabilities: Size and Funding ChallengesThe UK military faces significant reductions in size and funding, with the need for an honest debate about military roles and necessary resources, such as for the £7.8 billion aircraft carriers.

      The UK military has seen significant reductions in size over the past two decades, with the Army down by almost a third, the Royal Navy and Royal Marines down by more than 20%, and the Royal Air Force down by 40% in numbers. Despite the importance of technology, the UK's military capabilities are not what they once were, and the country needs to have an honest debate about its role in major wars and the resources required to back up its expensive military equipment. Anthony Scaramucci and Katty Kaye discussed the example of the UK's £7.8 billion aircraft carriers, which were commissioned without the necessary funding for planes, maintenance, or carrier battle groups. The UK needs to make tough choices about military spending and prioritizing resources effectively. Scaramucci also shared a personal story about donating to Obama's campaign in 2008, highlighting the intersection of politics and business interests.

    • Polls don't guarantee election outcomesDespite polling data, voter turnout and political discourse are crucial factors in determining election results.

      Polls, even from reputable sources, do not guarantee the outcome of elections. The Rest is Politics podcast team discussed this phenomenon using examples from various elections, including the US, Australia, Germany, and the UK. They emphasized that polling data should not be a cause for complacency and that voter turnout is crucial in determining the final results. The team also shared a poll circulated by the Labour Party, which highlighted the unpredictability of polling trends in the closing weeks of campaigns. Despite the inaccuracies of past polling predictions, the team encouraged the importance of engaging in political discourse and staying informed.

    • Impact of demographics and political ideology on election outcomesYoung people's diverse political leanings and declining confidence in the future could significantly impact election outcomes, particularly in close races. Engaging young voters to ensure they are registered and informed is crucial.

      The demographics of voter turnout and political ideology, particularly among young people, could significantly impact election outcomes. A 1% drop in African American voter turnout in Georgia, for instance, could determine the election result. Additionally, young people's political leanings are increasingly diverse, with young men leaning right and young women leaning left, making this age group more divided than before. Furthermore, the decline in confidence about the future and the eroding incumbency advantage are two significant polling trends that could influence voting patterns. The fact that fewer people believe their kids will be better off than they are and that incumbents are being reelected less frequently could lead to increased support for populist parties and candidates. Overall, these trends highlight the complexity and nuance of the political landscape and the importance of engaging young voters to ensure they are registered and informed.

    • Low approval ratings for political leaders in multiple countriesPolitical leaders face low approval ratings due to polarization, social media, and failed promises. To regain public trust, they need to be more authentic and deliver on their promises.

      Political leaders in various countries, including the US, UK, and Europe, are facing low approval ratings. For instance, President Biden stands at 37% approval, while Prime Minister Sunak's rating is 25% in favor and 51% disliked. Similarly, Prime Minister Macron's approval rating varies between 19% and 30%. Polarization, social media, and failed promises have contributed to these low ratings. However, there's a possibility for opposition leaders, like Keir Starmer, to be bolder in their objectives and follow the example of Prime Minister Albanese in Australia, who broke an election promise but implemented popular changes. In Europe, anti-European populists are predicted to top or come second in the upcoming parliamentary elections in nine countries, indicating a significant shift to the right. This trend is concerning as it excludes only small countries like Luxembourg, Malta, Cyprus, Croatia, Slovenia, and Ireland from the list. Overall, these trends suggest that political leaders need to be more authentic and deliver on their promises to regain public trust.

    • Rise of Right-Wing Populism in Europe: Implications and UncertaintiesEurope faces an uncertain future as right-wing populist parties gain ground, potentially shifting the European Parliament's stance on global issues towards Russia, less supportive of Ukraine, more repressive on immigration, and less concerned about democratic backsliding, which could hinder climate legislation.

      There's a significant shift towards right-wing populism expected in large European countries like Germany, France, Italy, Spain, and others. This trend is evident in the rise of parties like the AfD in Germany, the Law and Justice party in Poland, and the National Rally in France. The implications of this shift are significant, as the European Parliament, which has the ability to shape strategic debates on global issues, could become more sympathetic to Russia, less supportive of Ukraine, more repressive on immigration, and less concerned about democratic backsliding. This could also hinder climate legislation. The recent district election results in Germany offer a glimmer of hope, but the situation remains complex and uncertain, with protests and media landscape manipulation playing a significant role. The upcoming European Parliament elections in June will be crucial in determining the future direction of Europe.

    • Hungarian Leader Viktor Orban's Objections to EU Funding for UkraineEU's plan to secure €50B for Ukraine's future faces opposition from Hungary's Orban, complicating efforts to counteract Russia and may lead to sanctions or suspension of voting rights.

      The European Union's efforts to secure €50,000,000,000 financing for Ukraine's next few years have been met with objections from Hungarian leader Viktor Orban, leading to uncertainty about whether a deal can be reached. Orban's hardline stance on Ukraine is seen as an attempt to boost support for his party, Fidesz, in the European elections and potentially undermine European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen. The European Union could impose economic sanctions on Hungary, but they also need Orban's approval to commit long-term funding for Ukraine. The situation is complicated by the fact that some European leaders are considering suspending Hungary's voting rights if they continue to obstruct the agreement, but this could lead to unintended consequences. Despite the challenges, European leaders are determined to support Ukraine against Russia and are exploring alternative ways to move forward. A potential bright spot is the recent strengthening of the center-left in Sweden, which may help counteract the rise of right-wing populist parties in Europe.

    • Finnish Elections: Two Sensible Candidates Advance, Unexpected Contender Gains PopularityThe Finnish presidential elections saw two serious candidates progress to the runoff, with one unexpected contender gaining popularity despite breaking a promise. Regardless of the winner, former Prime Minister Matti Vanhanen expressed his interest in joining the podcast conversation.

      The Finnish presidential elections saw two sensible candidates advance to the runoff, both of whom are strong on the Russia-Ukraine issue. A surprise contender, Albanese, gained popularity despite breaking a promise. My friend and candidate Pekka Havisto, with his remarkable backstory, expressed interest in appearing on the podcast. Regardless of the winner, Stubb also expressed his desire to join the conversation. Despite some unexpected twists, the overall mood was not doom and gloom. Let's see who emerges victorious and continue the discussion with them.

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