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    24: Self Experimentation, Amputation Archaeology, and Learning to Love PowerPoint

    enSeptember 22, 2022

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    • The Significance of Self-Experimentation in Scientific DiscoveriesSelf-experimentation played a crucial role in scientific discoveries, particularly in the 1900s, allowing scientists to study their own bodies and eliminate the need for testing on animals or children, but its ethical implications are complex and may not always be safe for the experimenter.

      Self-experimentation, or scientists conducting experiments on themselves, was a significant part of scientific and medical discovery, particularly during the 1900s when rules regarding animal and human testing were more lenient. An intriguing example of this is the Venetian physician, Santorio Santorio, who lived on a scale for over 30 years to measure his body weight and what he consumed to study the idea of health being an ideal balance between ingestion and excretion. However, the ethical implications of self-experimentation are complex, as while it eliminates the need for testing on animals or children, it may not always be smart or safe for the experimenter. The podcast episode also touches on a science question about the oldest human limb amputation and a miscellaneous topic about the beauty behind Microsoft PowerPoint.

    • 16th century Italian physician Santorio Santarelli's self-experimentation advances understanding of basal metabolism and human healthSantorio Santarelli's meticulous self-experimentation introduced quantitative measurements into physiological research, leading to the foundation of our modern understanding of metabolism and health.

      Santorio Santarelli, a 16th century Italian physician, made significant contributions to the understanding of basal metabolism and human health through his meticulous self-experimentation. He introduced the concept of quantitative measurements into physiological research, which is a powerful tool still used today. Santorio believed that weight changes were due to insensible perspiration, or water loss through the skin, and kept detailed records of his food intake, weight, and bodily functions. He discovered that the amount of water lost in sensible perspiration is around 400 ml a day, and that not all consumed food is excreted as waste. His work laid the foundation for our modern understanding of metabolism and health, and his methods were so innovative that researchers in the 21st century recreated his chair to study its functions. Despite the challenges of his methods, Santorio's dedication to understanding the human body paved the way for future scientific discoveries.

    • Discoveries of the human body's inherent biological clockEarly studies on people in isolation revealed the body's natural 24-hour cycles for temperature and sleep, paving the way for circadian rhythm research. In the late 1980s, Marshall and Warren discovered stomach ulcers were caused by bacteria, challenging medical beliefs and leading to effective treatments.

      The human body has an inherent biological clock, even in the absence of external cues. This was first suggested in the early 20th century through studies on people in isolation, such as the case of Klytman and the cave experiments. Despite being subjected to 28-hour cycles, these individuals' body temperatures and sleep-wake cycles continued to fluctuate in approximately 24-hour cycles. This discovery paved the way for further research into sleep cycles and the understanding of the importance of circadian rhythms. Another significant discovery was made in the late 1980s by Barry Marshall and Robin Warren, who discovered that stomach ulcers were caused by bacteria, not stress or quack treatments as previously believed. These findings revolutionized the medical community and led to the development of effective treatments for peptic ulcers. Overall, these pioneering studies demonstrate the importance of observing and understanding the human body's natural processes, even in the most extreme conditions.

    • The Discovery of Helicobacter pylori and the Revolution in Stomach Ulcer TreatmentBarry Marshall and Robin Warren's groundbreaking discovery of Helicobacter pylori as the cause of stomach ulcers challenged prevailing beliefs, leading to a simple and effective treatment with antibiotics. Their determination and perseverance in the face of skepticism ultimately led to the Nobel Prize in Physiology in 2005.

      The discovery of Heliobacter pylori as the cause of stomach ulcers was a groundbreaking finding that challenged prevailing beliefs and required bold action. Barry Marshall's self-experimentation with the bacteria led to the development of a simple and effective treatment with antibiotics, revolutionizing the medical community. However, the road to acceptance was not easy, as their findings were initially met with skepticism and rejection. Despite the challenges, Marshall and Warren's determination and perseverance ultimately led to the Nobel Prize in Physiology in 2005. The story also highlights the importance of questioning established theories and the lengths scientists will go to in pursuit of knowledge.

    • Scientists' Extraordinary Measures: Drinking Rotten Milk and Infecting OneselfScientists have a relentless drive to expand knowledge, leading some to take risks like self-experimentation, even if it means enduring physical discomfort or serious health consequences. These stories remind us of their determination and courage to challenge the status quo.

      The pursuit of knowledge and scientific discovery has led some individuals to take extraordinary measures, including self-experimentation, even if it means enduring physical discomfort or risking serious health consequences. This was evident in the stories of Barry Marshall, who drank rotten milk to prove his theory, and John Hunter, who infected himself with gonorrhea to test his hypothesis about syphilis. These examples illustrate the determination and courage of scientists in challenging the status quo and pushing the boundaries of knowledge. However, it's important to note that self-experimentation is not a recommended practice and can often lead to unintended consequences. As Marshall himself noted, it's now the responsibility of scientific journals to carefully evaluate new ideas and ensure that they are not rejected prematurely. Another interesting trend that emerged from the discussion was the willingness of scientists to put themselves in harm's way for the greater good, such as John Paul Stapp's high-speed tests to improve pilot safety. These stories serve as a reminder of the important role that scientists play in advancing knowledge and the lengths they are willing to go to in the pursuit of truth.

    • Scientist intentionally infects himself with hookworms for researchResearch on hookworms' potential to reduce allergic responses led a scientist to infect himself, but this approach is dangerous and illegal, and clinical trials follow ethical guidelines.

      The discovery of the potential link between hookworms and reduced allergic responses led researcher Pritchard to intentionally infect himself with the parasites in the late 1980s. His goal was to prove the safety of this approach for future clinical studies investigating the use of hookworms as a potential treatment for allergies. This research area is still ongoing, with various clinical trials exploring the potential of hookworms and other parasitic worms for treating various diseases. However, it's important to note that self-infection with hookworms is dangerous and illegal. The FDA shut down a California man's attempt to sell hookworms for self-treatment due to potential health risks. The scientific process involves rigorous testing and ethical considerations, and individuals should not attempt to replicate these experiments on their own.

    • The Risks and Ethical Implications of Self-ExperimentationSelf-experimentation has led to important discoveries, but it's crucial to consider potential risks and ethical implications. Proper safety measures are necessary to mitigate harm.

      While self-experimentation has played a significant role in scientific progress, it's important to consider the potential risks and ethical implications. Douglas Bowman, a professor of parasitology, expressed concerns about the potential harm of infecting thousands of people with hookworms for a pharmaceutical trial. He emphasized that there are other ways to test theories besides self-experimentation and warned against the dangers of such practices. However, self-experimentation has also led to important discoveries throughout history, with pioneers like Santorio, Marshall, and Warren pushing boundaries in their fields. Despite the risks, these scientists' dedication to their work led them to make significant contributions to medicine. Ultimately, while self-experimentation can be a valid approach to research, it's crucial to consider the potential risks and ethical implications and to ensure that proper safety measures are in place.

    • Ancient civilizations practiced amputations 4000 years agoAncient civilizations, including Egypt, had advanced medical knowledge and practices, as evidenced by their use of amputations for both high-ranking individuals and workers, dating back over 4000 years.

      The practice of amputations dates back to ancient civilizations, such as ancient Egypt, which is around 4000 years ago. Both high-ranking individuals and workers received equal care during and after the surgery, indicating a level of medical knowledge and care that may have been underestimated in history. Furthermore, humans have a long history of medical practices, with Homo sapiens being just one species under the human genus, and Neanderthals also considered human. The definition of a human is anyone in the Homo genus, which includes Homo sapiens and Neanderthals, among others. The first successful limb removal with recorded evidence predates 4000 years ago, but the exact timeline remains unknown. This discussion highlights the importance of recognizing the medical advancements and practices of ancient civilizations and expanding our understanding of what it means to be human.

    • Misidentified tooth sheds light on human evolutionA 1.8 million-year-old tooth discovered in Georgia was initially misidentified as a homo sapien tooth, but is actually from our most recent known ancestor, Homo erectus. The discovery highlights the importance of clear communication and scientific accuracy in reporting scientific findings.

      The discovery of a 1.8 million-year-old tooth in Georgia, which was initially misidentified as a homo sapien tooth, serves as a reminder of the importance of scientific clarification and the potential confusion between common and scientific language. Homo erectus is actually our most recent known ancestor, and Homo habilis, the species from which the tooth is believed to have come, lived around 2.6 million years ago. While the discovery is significant, it's important to remember that human evolution is a complex process that spans millions of years, and discoveries like this help us piece together the story of our ancestors. The misidentification of the tooth and subsequent confusion highlights the importance of clear communication and scientific accuracy in reporting scientific discoveries.

    • Identifying ancient surgical practices through forensic anatomyForensic anatomy reveals trepanation as one of the earliest known surgical procedures, dating back to ancient civilizations, with around 50% survival rate and clear evidence from skulls.

      The science of forensic anatomy provides valuable insights into the history of surgeries, specifically identifying trepanation as one of the earliest known surgical practices. Trepanation involves drilling or opening a hole into the skull for various reasons, including spiritual, psychiatric treatment, or releasing pressure. Despite the risks, around 50% of people survived this procedure, often due to head injuries. The practice left clear evidence in the form of skulls with visible markings, making it one of the most identifiable surgical methods from ancient times.

    • Ancient amputation discovery challenges assumptions about human medical practices' timelineDiscoveries of ancient amputated skeletons challenge the belief that limb removal surgeries began around 4000 BC, with evidence suggesting they may have occurred much earlier.

      The discovery of an ancient amputated skeleton in France, believed to be around 4000 BC, challenges previous assumptions about when limb removal surgeries began. The skeleton, discovered in 2003, showed signs of recovery, suggesting the patient survived the surgery. The grave goods found with the skeleton indicated the man held a high social status. However, a newer discovery of a 31,000-year-old amputated skeleton in Borneo has since challenged this timeline, suggesting that amputations may have been practiced much earlier. The term "modern human" used in the context of ancient remains refers to Homo sapiens, and the 300,000-year-old timeline is relatively modern in Earth's history. The discovery of ancient amputations challenges our understanding of early human medical practices and the level of social solidarity in pastoral agricultural communities.

    • Challenging assumptions about medical knowledge in ancient timesNew discovery of 31,000-year-old leg amputation challenges the belief that significant medical knowledge didn't exist before Neolithic Revolution, emphasizing the importance of reevaluating assumptions and considering the possibility of cultural knowledge transfer

      Our understanding of human history, particularly in relation to medical practices and advancements, may be limited by our preconceived notions of what was possible during certain time periods. The recent discovery of a 31,000-year-old leg amputation in Southeast Asia challenges the notion that significant medical knowledge and techniques did not exist before the Neolithic Revolution. This finding underscores the importance of reevaluating our assumptions and considering the possibility that cultural understanding and knowledge were passed down through communities, even if not in a formal scientific system. Additionally, the preservation of evidence is a challenge in understanding the full scope of human history. The discovery of potential finger amputations from handprints adds to the intrigue, but further research is needed to confirm this theory. Overall, this discovery highlights the complexity and depth of human history and challenges us to keep an open mind as new evidence comes to light.

    • PowerPoint's Rich HistoryFrom ancient China to modern presentations, PowerPoint has evolved from a concept to a ubiquitous tool for sharing information.

      PowerPoint, a tool often used for presenting information, has a rich history that predates its popular use in the late 20th century. Originating in ancient China during the Point dynasty, PowerPoint was officially launched in 1987 by a startup called Forethought. The name PowerPoint came about through a fortunate coincidence, with Robert Gaskins, one of its creators, having the idea in the shower and Glenn Hopkins, the VP of sales, seeing the name on an airport sign. Despite its humble beginnings, PowerPoint has since become a ubiquitous tool for presenting data and information in various settings, from classrooms to boardrooms. Its history serves as a reminder of the evolution of technology and the importance of resilience and creativity in the face of challenges.

    • Microsoft's first major acquisition: Forethought and PowerPointMicrosoft's acquisition of Forethought in 1987 led to the creation and popularization of PowerPoint, revolutionizing digital presentations.

      The acquisition of Forethought, the creators of the PowerPoint presentation software, by Microsoft in 1987 for $1.5 million was a significant event in tech history. This was Microsoft's first major acquisition and paved the way for the ubiquity of digital presentations. PowerPoint, initially designed for creating transparencies, evolved over time to become a synonym for digital presentations. However, its popularity and ease of use have also drawn criticism from notable figures like Edward Tufte, who famously called PowerPoint "evil" in a 2003 Wired Magazine article. Despite the criticisms, PowerPoint provided a new avenue for presenting information and ideas, and its impact on communication is undeniable.

    • PowerPoint's criticism overlooks the larger system issuesPowerPoint is a widely used tool for presentations, but its effectiveness depends on how it's used. The real issues lie in productivity culture and lack of resources for alternatives.

      While Edward Tufte's criticisms of PowerPoint have merit, the focus on the medium rather than the larger system is misguided. PowerPoint is a widely used tool for presentations, and its ubiquity does not necessarily equate to poor presentations. The real issues lie in the culture of productivity and the lack of resources or time for alternatives. As Monica Pool, an assistant professor, noted, the problem is not with PowerPoint itself but with how it is used. Furthermore, the accessibility and ease of use of presentation software like PowerPoint and Google Slides make it a valuable tool for a diverse range of users, from high school students to rabbis and wedding toast givers. The challenge is to teach users how to use it effectively. Ultimately, it's essential to consider the bigger picture and address the root causes of the issues rather than just criticizing the tool itself.

    • Transforming PowerPoint into an Artistic MediumDavid Byrne, a renowned artist, turned PowerPoint into an artistic tool, creating beautiful and engaging presentations, predicting its potential for presentational theater.

      There are people who deeply love and appreciate PowerPoint, despite its often criticized reputation. One such person is David Byrne, an Oscar, Grammy, Tony winner, and member of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. In 2003, Byrne wrote an article titled "Learning to Love PowerPoint," where he shared his experience of transforming the tool into an artistic medium. He discovered he could create beautiful and engaging presentations using PowerPoint, which he likened to short films. Byrne even gave a talk at UC Berkeley titled "I Heart PowerPoint," where he showcased his multimedia art using the software. Interestingly, during this presentation, the creators of PowerPoint were in the audience, including Robert Gaskins. Despite his initial nervousness, Byrne's presentation was well-received, and he even predicted that PowerPoint could be the foundation for presentational theater. This prediction came true around the same time when TED Talks began to gain popularity. Byrne's story serves as a reminder that with creativity and passion, even the most seemingly mundane tools can be transformed into something extraordinary.

    • From comedy to creative expression on TikTok and PowerPointTikTok and PowerPoint have evolved beyond their initial uses and are now tools for creative expression, particularly in comedy. Their versatility and potential for innovation continue to surprise us.

      Both TikTok and PowerPoint have evolved beyond their initial intended uses and have become tools for creative expression, particularly in the realm of comedy. While TikTok's accessibility and green screen feature make it an attractive platform for digital presentations, PowerPoint's comedic timing and theatrical potential have inspired comedians to use it in innovative ways. David Byrne's prediction of PowerPoint Theater was partially correct, but his vision of PowerPoint as a meta program, capable of integrating various forms of media, has proven to be even more accurate. Whether it's through TikTok's viral trends or PowerPoint's comedic sets, these tools continue to surprise us with their versatility and potential for creativity.

    • PowerPoint as a platform for creativityPowerPoint can be used for more than just presentations, it offers endless possibilities for creativity and inspiration

      PowerPoint, while primarily known as a presentation software, can also serve as a platform for creativity and experimentation beyond its intended use. As demonstrated in a presentation by Wildenhain, PowerPoint can be used to create simple programs, such as recognizing palindromes, using animations and auto shapes. Although it may be a joke and not a practical alternative to conventional programming languages, the idea showcases the endless possibilities for creativity and inspiration that PowerPoint offers. It has the ability to evoke strong reactions, from Edward Tufte's anger to a teacher's careful consideration, a comedian's performance, and a programmer's endless tinkering. The creators of PowerPoint themselves have embraced this chaos, making it a beloved tool for many. It's a reminder that beauty and creativity can be found in the most unexpected places.

    • Exploring Beyond PowerPoint for PresentationsWhile PowerPoint is popular, consider other presentation tools and resources for engaging and effective presentations.

      While PowerPoint is a commonly used presentation tool, it's not the only one available. The hosts of "Let's Learn Everything" shared their experiences with using PowerPoint, acknowledging its challenges but also appreciating the excitement and anticipation it brings. However, they didn't limit themselves to just PowerPoint and encouraged exploring other presentation tools and resources. Listeners can tune in to Maximumfun.org for comedy and culture content, where "Let's Learn Everything" is an audience-supported, artist-owned podcast. The hosts may poke fun at each other, but their passion for learning and sharing knowledge shines through.

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    1978 Article: A Supermassive Object in Galaxy M87
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    Image Source: NASA First Image of a Black Hole
    Image Source: Event Horizon Telescope: FIrst Image of Black Hole at the Centre of the Milyway
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    The Scotsman: Our Fascination With Indoor Potted Plants has a Long and Colourful History
    Architectural Digest: The Most Iconic Houseplant Trends Through the Decades
    The Guardian: Indoor Plant Sales Boom, Reflecting Urbanisation and Design Trends
    The Telegraph: Houseplant Sales Soar
    2019 Paper: Potted Plants Do Not Improve Indoor Air Quality: A Review and Analysis of Reported VOC Removal Efficiencies
    University of Reading: Owning Houseplants Can Boost Your Mental Health – Here’s How to Pick the Right One
    2022 Paper: The Appearance of Indoor Plants and their Effect on People's Perceptions of Indoor Air Puality and Subjective Well-Being
    RHS: Houseplants: To Support Human Health
    2022 Paper: Effects of Indoor Plants on Human Functions: A Systematic Review with Meta-Analyses
    BBC: Are Your Houseplants Bad for the Environment?

    61: Whale Fall Ecology & Jury Duty

    61: Whale Fall Ecology & Jury Duty

    What happens when the largest living animal becomes the largest dead animal?  Just how complex could a dead whale be?  And what are the differences, flaws, and nuances of the jury system, and can we be studying it better?

    Images we Talk About:
    The Zombie Worm

    Timestamps:
    (00:00:00) Intro
    (00:03:59) Whale Fall Ecology
    (00:52:52) Jury Duty
    (01:32:41) Outro

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    We also learn about: A bucket of mice, when whales die the people who love them will miss them, a jury of your cohosts will decide if your topic is boring, Tom stretching his arms to measure a 34 meter long whale, marine snow and whale falls, gettin ghastly gassy, a new mussel told us to go check out the whale fall, whales are mortal, deep sea mussel delicacy, how hard could it be to find a whale over 70% of the earth’s surface? let’s just wait for the carcass to come to us… wait actually?? welcome to our automatic zoo of dead things on the beach brought to you by the crown, sinking beached whale carcasses, the 3 stages of whale fall, Denial/Mobile Scavenger Phase can take 2 years, scavengers eat about one (1) Caroline of whale per day, Enrichment Opportunist Phase, Sulfophilic Phase, 7% of a whale is bone lipid, a sulfur bacteria carpet. did we walk into Caroline’s trap? This final phase can last 100 years! It’s not a trap if I’m asking you a question! 690,000 whale falls at any time, never in my wildest dreams would i be so lucky as to know the 12km distance from fall to fall statistic, whaling is deforestation for bacteria, Osedax or the zombie worm or the bone devourer or snot flower, there’s Drama in this whale fall ecosystem, dinosaur fall ecosystems, fossilized bones with fossilized deep sea snails, we got picked to talk about jury duty, UK US differences, a 900 day trial, there’s something wrong with Ella, the US is the only country to have so many civil juries, this topic has become a US UK debate, only the US requires unanimity, juror selection bias, racially diverse juries do a better job, I wish we could be surprised peremptory challenge is biased against women, oops it’s a british colinization topic, you could literally say too many asians, semi-jural systems, is this a philosophy topic about human nature?? our various biases, the confirmation bias against tom’s bad jokes, can we study jury bias? there hasn’t been any research on live jury deliberation.

    Sources:
    NatGeo: Dead whales are washing up on the East Coast.
    NHM: Whale Fall: What Happens When Whales Die?
    Review of the Impact of Whale Fall on Biodiversity in Deep-Sea Ecosystems (2022)
    The Discovery of a Natural Whale Fall in the Antarctic Deep Sea (2013)
    NPR: What Happens After A Whale Dies?
    Scientific American: Life at the Bottom: The Prolific Afterlife of Whales
    Fish Food in the Deep Sea: Revisiting the Role of Large Food-Falls (2014)
    NatGeo: Making a Home on Plesiosaurs
    Chemosynthesis-Based Sssociations on Cretaceous Plesiosaurid Carcasses (2008)
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    Cornell Law: What is Jury Duty?
    Jury Law UK
    Magna Carta
    538: Jury Duty is Rare
    Jury Service in the UK
    Juror Exemptions and Exclusions USA
    Differences between US and UK Legal Systems
    Jury Duty in UK vs USA
    UK Civil Case Info
    "Justifying Prohibited
    Peremptory Challenges (2007)"
    Jury Under Fire: Jury Selection Can Effectively Identify Biased Jurors
    NACDL: Bias in Jury Selection
    EJI: History of Bias in Jury Selection
    Comparison of Juries in Democratic Countries (2007)
    Jury Trial in different countries
    World Jury Sytems: Exporting the English Jury System (2000)
    Monash Law: Do we need juries?
    Cognitive and Human Factors in Legal Layperson Decision Making: Sources of bias in Juror Decision Making (2022)
    Thomas Lecture on Jury Bias
    The Curious Case of the Jury-Shaped Hole (2023)

    60: Near Earth Objects & Guitar Tabs

    60: Near Earth Objects & Guitar Tabs

    What are all these rocks hurtling through space? Do we need to worry about them, and what can we learn from them? And what are guitar tabs, why don't people take them seriously, and why does Tom love them so dang much?

    Videos we Talk About:
    Osiris Boop Gif

    Timestamps:
    (00:00:00) Intro
    (00:03:54) Near Earth Objects
    (00:56:58) Guitar Tabs
    (01:47:55) Outro

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    We also learn about:

    I thought you were just going to just teach us guitar, still on course to learn everything in a few months! everyone’s favorite part: semantics and exceptions, Tom is a perfectly unmovable object, it’s doxxing myself if people know I’m the center of the universe, the great attractor was my nickname in high school, “naturally occurring objects traveling through our solar system which are smaller than planets and aren’t moons”, you must be 1 meter tall to be an asteroid, asteroids are metally comets are icy, a song of rock and metal dust and ice, asteroid/comet -> meteoroid -> meteor -> meteorite, 1.3 million known asteroids and only 3,800 comets in our solar system, within 50 million km it becomes a near earth object, obviously we’re all thinking about the Tunguska asteroid asteroid, 80 million trees felled and it didn’t even hit the Earth, one of the oldest meteors we know is from 2 billion years ago, the vredefort dome, 2 billion year old nuclear weapon testing??? the only time the earth makes Shatter Cones is meteors and nuclear explosions, if the meteor had hit the water it might not have been so catastrophic for dinosaurs, but it was going 20 kilometers per SECOND, a force 10,000 times the world nuclear arsenal, the crater has to be DISCOVERED, what does it mean for 50% of species to go extinct, the asteroid also vaporized the ground and water, impact winter, stopping photosynthesis kicks out the base of the foodchain, the meteor that broke the camel’s back, land animals over 25kg went extinct, there were a few lucky ducks, LLE Meteor Insurance, as long as Aerosmith is alive we’re fine, Asteroid Watch via the Center for Near Earth Object Studies, people listening 100 years from now hope you don’t have any asteroids (sucks to suck), Planetary Defense Coordination Office, Double Asteroid Redirct Mission, I cheered when we smashed into that asteroid, activating asteroids, asteroids are loose remaining legos from the formation of the solar system, OSIRIS-REx sample return, a kid named Bennu, tom loses his mind at the video of Osiris booping Bennu, personifying Rex, OSIRIS APEX, Apophis will be closer than some satellites, POV Apophis shots, Astroid Quakes, “cute is a weird way to describe a spacecraft touching an asteroid”, casual Caroline classical guitar lore drop, Tom learns guitar by accident, “too bad I picked this up so late”, Ella’s youtube ukulele era, don’t stop believing, tabs aren’t shittier sheet music, Van Halen didn’t invent tabs, tabs feel modern but also obvious, just because words are more efficient doesn’t mean diagrams aren’t useful, I’m just trying to play Don’t Stop Believing I have to worry about context? Guqin tablature dates to the 7th century! music has a lot of racism, rockin out those lute tabs, I knew this was secretly a font topic! monospace fonts revitalized tabs, sheet music software is garbage, god did not want me to use LaTeX they wanted me to use my mortal hands, OLGA, reading Beyonce tabs is not the same as listening to Beyonce, Paul McCartney’s the one who plays Blackbird wrong, let the philosophy professor enjoy his guitar! why punish the people who love your work, tabs are in a gray zone still, ultimate-guitar has a monopoly, the gray zone may benefit publishers, thanks swifties, Thomas Chesney’s tab research, it’s not a million miles away but it’s not right, ooh this song’s so commercially viable! Polphia’s tabs, Pinegrove’s tabs released before the songs, Tom’s guitar tabs, being a part of someone’s music journey in a little way, this could have been a guitar tab podcast, a cozy review corner.

    Sources:
    The Structure of the Milky Way
    The Great Attractor
    Nasa on Orbital Debris
    Asteroids vs Comets vs Meteors
    Nasa on Asteroids
    Notable Asteroid Impacts
    Tunguska Event
    Atomic Asteroid Blasts
    Vredefort Impact Structure
    NASA on the Dinosaur Extincting Asteroid
    NHM: Why did the dinosaurs die out?
    Near Earth Objects
    DART
    Asteroid Watch
    Asteroid Watch Dashboard
    DART results
    Nasa Data on Bennu
    OSIRIS REx Touch Down
    Bennu Sample Analysis
    Nasa Data on Apophis
    ESA's Possible RAMSES Mission
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    NPR on Online Tabs
    Van Halen Tab Interview
    Mick Goodrick's The Advancing Guitarist
    Yang Yuanzheng on Ancient Guqin Tablature
    Solitary Orchid on the Guqin
    Tantacrul's Critique of Sheet Music Software
    Laura Gary's Amazing Legal Analysis of Tabs
    Paul McCartney on Blackbird
    NYTimes on Guitar Tab Legal Troubles
    Ultimate-Guitars Licensing
    Chesney's Paper Studying Guitar Tab Authors
    Polyphia Tabs
    Pinegrove Tabs NPR Interview
    Tom's Habanero Tabs
    Newspeak Dictionary

    59: Quantum Physics & Gossip

    59: Quantum Physics & Gossip

    Can Tom finally take on his science communication white whale: Quantum Physics??  And what is gossip, what did it mean in the past, and could it actually be... good??  Find out on a very special MaxFunDrive episode!

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    Timestamps:
    (00:00:00) Intro
    (00:06:29) Quantum Physics
    (01:00:14) MaxFunDrive!
    (01:09:08) Gossip
    (01:44:14) Outro

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    We also learn about:

    One minute of self indulgence, another bit?? when bugs gossip, Moby Dick was warning about the perils of teaching quantum physics, the word quantum is boring,  every grocery list is quantum (except Ella’ infinite and continuous grocery list), Ocean’s 11 is a quantum movie, quantum physics is 100 years old, why doesn’t my toaster blast me with radiation, Lord Rayleigh is literally the why is the sky blue guy, Planck really didn’t want to be right, “an act of desperation”, you’re taught quantum physics in high school chemistry, Heisenberg v Pauli v Schrodinger beef, fully just saying jackass, even smart people hate quantum physics, “nobody feels perfectly comfortable with it”, YOU ALREADY KNOW QUANTUM PHYSICS, Newton has been redeemed! we almost called photons “quantums”, some of quantum physics is bullshit but not all of it is, what has quantum physics ever done for us? we do actually have a quantum phone and quantum machines at the hospital, Quantum Nuclear MRI machines, sometimes it’s nice to remember that, Schrodinger's Cat is the worst first thing to learn, “not a real experiment, does not prove anything, does not match physical reality, and was intentionally designed to be absurd”, it’s like learning about vision through only optical illusions, “but where’s the weird?”, making peace with your whale, as long as you support us we will live forever, no Ella, there’s nothing wrong with you, “debrief”, gossip can be positive! GODSIB MEANT GOD SIBLING, you wouldn’t bang your godbrother, Tom you don’t have kids, in the 12th century you could leave your kids to watch Dune 2 whenever you wanted, a gossip is someone you can tell anything to, gossips were backup for lecherous men, gossip was a neutral term for an essential supportive community, gossiping about witches gossiping “that’s gossip as well babe”, spoiler for most social issues it’s about class and power,  scold’s bridle, “I love idle talk, I’m a witch”, coffee houses are just gossip houses, “oooh yeah, evolution and gossip, this is good stuff”, we wouldn’t be humans if we weren’t sociable and idle talking, gossiping is like primate grooming, animals would LOVE to gossip if they had language, I don’t care what you think as long as it’s about me, work stopping gossip seems neutral but isn’t, I’m not gossiping I’m receiving evaluative information about a colleague, it’s good the science doesn’t show bullying is cool actually, most gossip is neutral gossip, I wouldn’t compliment my boss - only in gossip, you think it’s not gossip cause it’s about Tom Brady?? It is!! it’s all preamble for review corner.

    Sources:
    Melville's Book on Quantum Physics
    Dan Styer's Amazing Brief History of Quantum Physics
    Dan Styer's Textbook "The Strange World of Quantum Mechanics"
    Futurama Quantum Joke
    Chad Orzel on the Origin of Quantum Physics
    Helge Kragh's History of Planck as "The Reluctant Revolutionary"
    Heisenberg's Letter to Pauli (s/o to u/restricteddata)
    Gilbert Lewis' Naming of the Photon
    Chad Orzel "What Has Quantum Mechanics Ever Done For Us?"
    Old Computers
    Nobel Prize Committee on Bloch's Work
    Dr. Baird's Great Analysis of Schrodinger's Cat
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    Gossip and Resistance Among the Medieval Peasantry
    From the Whisper Network to #MeToo—Framing Gender, Gossip and Sexual Harassment
    Envy, Poison, and Death: Women on Trial in Classical Athens, Chapter 3.2
    The Psychological Anatomy of Gossip
    Tell Me the Gossip: The Self-Evaluative Function of Receiving Gossip About Others
    BBC Worklife: The Surprising Benefits of Gossip
    Gossip in Evolutionary Perspective
    How the “Gossip” Became a Woman
    Gossip and Gender Differences: a Content Analysis Approach
    BBC Worklife: Why Gossiping at Work is Good For You

    Go Fact Yourself MaxFunDrive Kick-off Spectacular featuring Ella Hubber, Tom Lum, Teresa McElroy, Ross Blocher, and Jordan Morris

    Go Fact Yourself MaxFunDrive Kick-off Spectacular featuring Ella Hubber, Tom Lum, Teresa McElroy, Ross Blocher, and Jordan Morris

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