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    #296 - Kalle Sauerland - The Life Of A Global Boxing Promoter

    enMarch 18, 2021

    Podcast Summary

    • A Passionate Career in Boxing PromotionBorn into a boxing family, Kala Sauerland's love for the sport led him to a career promoting fights worldwide. Success requires deep understanding and dedication.

      Being a global boxing promoter like Kala Sauerland requires an immense amount of passion and dedication to the sport. Born into a boxing family and surrounded by characters from a young age, Kala's love for the sport led him to a career promoting fights all over the world. He's worked with some of the biggest names in boxing and has been a part of some of the most watched events in the sport's history. To succeed as a boxing promoter, one must be completely devoted to the industry and willing to take on the challenges that come with it. The unregulated nature of boxing allows anyone to become a promoter, but the most successful ones, like Kala, have a deep understanding of the sport and the ability to navigate the complex world of boxing. From wild press conferences to massive events with tens of thousands of fans, the life of a boxing promoter is full of excitement and unpredictability.

    • Bringing a world-class boxing event to lifePromoters navigate negotiations, manage budgets, sell media and sponsorship rights, and ensure fighter safety to deliver an unforgettable boxing experience for fans.

      Being a boxing promoter involves more than just booking two fighters and selling tickets. It's a complex and demanding job that requires dedication, adaptability, and a willingness to handle unexpected challenges. Promoters must navigate negotiations, manage budgets, sell media and sponsorship rights, and ensure the safety and well-being of the fighters. The stakes are high, and the work can be intense and unpredictable. Despite the challenges, the reward of bringing a world-class boxing event to life for audiences around the globe makes it a worthwhile endeavor. Ultimately, being a boxing promoter requires a deep passion for the sport and a commitment to delivering an unforgettable experience for fans.

    • Finding a way to make fights happenEgos can be set aside for great fights, but network contracts complicate negotiations, requiring creative solutions

      Making fights in boxing, despite the challenges, can be accomplished when all parties involved are willing to put aside their egos and make it happen. As illustrated by the David Haye versus Nikolay Valuev example, a deal can be reached over the course of an espresso. However, the most common reason deals are held up is due to fighters being contracted to different networks, making negotiations between broadcasters a complex process. Despite this, historic fights like Pacquiao vs. Mayweather have shown that a solution can be found, and the World Boxing Super Series has proven that by borrowing or taking boxes out of contracts, great fights can be made. Ultimately, it's about finding a way to make it work and prioritizing the fight itself over individual interests.

    • Managing Complexities in High-Stakes Boxing MatchesEffectively coordinating various stakeholders and managing the financial and broadcasting complexities are crucial for successful high-stakes boxing matches, providing fans with the best against the best.

      Organizing high-stakes boxing matches involves managing a complex web of parties, including broadcasters, trainers, athletes, and various support staff. The evolution of boxing as a sport has led to an increased number of voices at the table, including trainers specializing in different aspects of training, strength and conditioning coaches, nutritionists, physiotherapists, managers, advisers, and agents. The financial side is also more complicated than before, with ticket sales being the easiest part to recoup. Broadcasting has become more complex as well, with the rise of digital and satellite television leading to multiple channels and platforms. Despite these challenges, promoting top-tier boxing matches remains worthwhile as it brings the best against the best, benefiting the sport and the fans.

    • Boxing and Sports Entertainment: A New EraThe sports world is evolving with streaming services, social media, and YouTubers disrupting traditional broadcasters, offering global access and new opportunities for boxers and fans.

      The landscape of boxing and sports entertainment is evolving rapidly with the emergence of streaming services, new social media platforms, and the involvement of YouTubers. These changes are making it more accessible and engaging for fans, especially the younger generation. Platforms like DAZN and Triller are disrupting the traditional broadcasters by offering global access to live events. While some may criticize the quality or legitimacy of these events, it's essential to remember that they cater to different audiences and bring new opportunities for boxers and fans alike. The involvement of YouTubers in boxing, such as Logan Paul and KSI, has also brought a fresh perspective and attracted a younger fanbase. While these events may not reach the level of professional boxing, they offer entertainment value and can serve as stepping stones for aspiring boxers. Ultimately, the key takeaway is that the sports world is evolving, and it's essential to embrace the changes and adapt to the new realities.

    • The proposed boxing match between Mayweather and a YouTuber is unrealistic and dangerous.Underestimating professional boxers' skills and experience can lead to serious harm. Logan Paul lacks the necessary experience and skills to face Floyd Mayweather in the ring.

      The proposed boxing match between Floyd Mayweather and a YouTuber, such as Logan Paul, is considered dangerous and unrealistic by the speaker. The speaker, who has boxing experience, emphasizes the significant difference between a professional boxer and a YouTuber in terms of skill and potential harm. He recalls his own experience being knocked out by a British level pro and warns against underestimating the abilities of professional boxers. The speaker also criticizes Logan Paul for disrespecting boxers and calls him out for not having the necessary experience or skills to face Mayweather in the ring.

    • Crossover fights between professionals and non-professionalsDespite concerns over fairness and competitiveness, crossover fights between professional and non-professional boxers generate significant attention and revenue for the sport.

      The fight between professional boxers and non-professionals, like the recent KSI vs. Logan Paul match, raises questions about fairness and entertainment value. While some argue that these matches are not truly competitive due to the vast skill gap between dedicated boxers and novices, others see them as a way to introduce new audiences to the sport. Mayweather vs. McGregor, another high-profile crossover fight, was criticized for being a farce but still sold a significant number of pay-per-views. Mayweather, a legendary boxer, is known for his genius in the ring and his ability to make fights entertaining, even against formidable opponents. Despite concerns about the competitiveness of these matches, they continue to draw attention and revenue to the sport.

    • Floyd Mayweather: Best Defensive Fighter, Mike Tyson: Greatest Offensive FighterDana White transformed UFC from an unregulated sport to a $4.2 billion brand, showcasing the best of its fighters while offering unique experiences for fans, with boxing's history and tradition contrasting UFC's technical yet accessible nature.

      Floyd Mayweather is considered the best defensive fighter in boxing history, while Mike Tyson is often regarded as the greatest offensive fighter due to his unique peekaboo style. In the UFC world, Dana White is praised for turning an unregulated and partly illegal sport into a $4.2 billion brand. White's dedication to the sport has kept it thriving despite its challenges. Boxing and UFC differ in their promotional structures, with the focus on the fighters and their skills being the main attraction in both sports. Boxing's history and tradition make it more complex for newcomers to understand, while UFC's technical yet accessible nature allows viewers to get invested even without extensive knowledge. Ultimately, both sports showcase the best of their respective gladiators and offer unique experiences for fans.

    • Boxing and UFC: More Than Meets the EyeBoth boxing and UFC require intense mental and physical focus, with boxing's clear-cut format making it easier for mainstream understanding, while UFC's complexity adds to its intellectual appeal.

      Both boxing and UFC, despite their differences, require a high level of mental and physical prowess. Boxing, with its traditional appeal and clear-cut man-against-man format, can be understood even when half-asleep. UFC, on the other hand, is a technical spectacle that's hard for the mainstream to follow due to its complexity. The speaker, who has worked with Russian fighters and chess players, draws parallels between the two, emphasizing the intellectual nature of both sports. Boxing, in particular, demands intense focus, strategy, and quick decision-making, making it one of the most comprehensive sports in terms of mental and physical requirements. The speaker also mentions downhill skiing as another sport that shares similarities with boxing, as both require fighting against challenging environments and maintaining focus under pressure.

    • The Intense Focus on Personal Struggle in BoxingBoxing is a pay-per-view individual sport due to the athlete's personal struggle and high stakes, with rigorous training and pressure to perform, creating excitement and investment in the raw, unfiltered experience.

      Boxing is unique among sports because it is the only one that is primarily consumed as a pay-per-view individual event. This is due to the intense focus on the athlete's personal struggle and the high stakes involved. Boxers undergo rigorous training and face significant pressure, including the risk of doping, to perform at their best. The danger and intensity of the sport create a sense of excitement and investment that other sports cannot match. Despite the challenges, many are drawn to the raw, unfiltered experience of a boxing match. It's a testament to the human spirit and the enduring appeal of competition.

    • Personal experience of a boxer using PEDsWhile some boxers use PEDs to gain an unfair advantage, consistent and fair rules and consequences for their use are crucial for maintaining integrity in the sport.

      While the use of performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs) in boxing is a concern, the rules and consequences for their use should be consistent and fair. The speaker shared a personal experience of a boxer, Urcan Tepper, who appeared unimpressive but tested positive for steroids and knocked out a well-known boxer, David Price. The speaker emphasized that the use of PEDs is not welcome in boxing and his company had been a pioneer in implementing drug testing since the 1990s. However, the speaker also acknowledged that not all dopers get caught and emphasized the importance of consistent and fair rules and consequences for their use. The speaker also shared a personal experience of feeling nervous during a heavyweight championship event in Switzerland, but overall, he expressed confidence in the sport and the efforts being made to ensure fair competition.

    • Unexpected moments in boxingBoxing offers thrilling and unpredictable experiences, with unexpected turns and challenges that make it an exciting and unforgettable journey.

      Boxing, like any other sport, can be unpredictable and full of unexpected moments. I once attended a high-profile event where the Swiss crowd, who had paid a hefty price for VIP tickets, watched in shock as the heavyweight champion, Baluet, slipped on the canvas and injured his meniscus during a fight against Jermaine McClain. Despite the disappointing turn of events, Donner, our representative, seized the moment and enthusiastically waved the Swiss flags, turning the incident into a memorable fable. This experience, along with many others, underscores the thrilling and unpredictable nature of boxing. Additionally, I recall my first trip to Russia in my late twenties to sign Olympic champion Alexander Povetkin, which took an unexpected turn as I was taken to a remote village and cut off from communication, resulting in an extended stay and a signed contract. Boxing presents numerous challenges and surprises, making it an exciting and unforgettable journey.

    • Stories from dealing with volatile boxing personalitiesStaying composed and adaptable in high-pressure situations is crucial for boxing promoters, as demonstrated by Eddie Hearn's experiences with Chris Eubank Jr. and Derek Chisora.

      Promoting boxing matches involves dealing with unpredictable personalities and volatile situations. Eddie Hearn, a well-known boxing promoter, shared stories about dealing with challenging characters like Chris Eubank Jr. and Derek Chisora. The most infamous incident was with Chisora, who infamously flipped a table during a press conference with Gideon Butt. Despite the chaos, Hearn learned to take the moral high ground and let his opponents appear aggressive, using it as a counter-attack. Another instance was with Chisora and Dillian Whyte, where Hearn advised Chisora to remain calm during a heated exchange, resulting in Chisora lifting the entire press conference table and launching it across the room. These incidents demonstrate the importance of staying composed and adaptable in high-pressure situations.

    • Boxer Brings Dildo to Weigh-In, Causes ChaosBoxers and their teams will go to great lengths to gain an edge, even if it means causing chaos and destruction in the high-pressure world of professional boxing.

      Derek Chisora, a boxer, infamously brought a black dildo to a weigh-in against Kubrat Pulev, only to be hit with an Evian bottle by an old-school hotel employee trying to protect his posh establishment. Chisora, known for his intensity and unpredictability, had intended to use the dildo as a prank or distraction during their face-off. However, the moment was interrupted when the employee intervened, resulting in damage to the Four Seasons Hamburg's kitchen. The incident underscores the high-pressure environment surrounding professional boxing and the unpredictable nature of its personalities. Chisora's actions demonstrate the extreme lengths athletes and their teams will go to gain an edge, even if it means causing chaos and destruction. Ultimately, the pressure to perform and the potential for chaos are inherent parts of the sport.

    • Orchestrating Controlled Violence in BoxingBoxing promoter Chris ensures fair treatment and compensation for fighters while maintaining the allure of raw instincts and primal entertainment for audiences.

      Boxing promoter, Chris, orchestrates controlled violence for the entertainment of audiences, ensuring fighters receive their rightful platform and compensation. The unique nature of boxing, with its pay-per-view model, adds to its allure and makes it a special and unique experience for both fighters and viewers. Despite the pressure and potential conflicts, Chris remains committed to his role, recognizing the importance of celebrating the moments that matter to fighters at every level. Boxing's raw and primal instincts, such as sex and violence, have always captivated audiences, making it an enduring and popular form of entertainment.

    • Boxing's Ritualistic and Sacred Nature Persists Despite ModernizationBoxing's rich history and tradition continue to captivate audiences, with Chris Eubank Jr. set for a comeback and the World Boxing Super Series returning, signaling hope for the industry's recovery from the pandemic.

      The ritualistic and sacred nature of boxing, despite the high salaries of its athletes, continues to captivate audiences. Chris Eubank Jr., who has recently signed with the interviewee's organization, is expected to make a comeback this year with several significant fights. Additionally, the World Boxing Super Series is set to return soon, signaling a hopeful bounce-back for the sports industry as a whole, which has been greatly impacted by the pandemic. The interviewee expresses optimism that people will once again embrace life and its experiences, as the world begins to recover.

    • Maintaining a positive outlook during tough timesEven in the toughest years, there can be silver linings and it's important to stay optimistic, roll up our sleeves, and keep moving forward.

      Despite facing challenges, it's essential to maintain a positive outlook and keep moving forward. Even during the toughest times, like a "shittiest year ever," there can be silver linings. For instance, more time spent with family, though challenging with homeschooling, can be cherished. As someone who's had a difficult year but still remains optimistic, the speaker encourages everyone to "head up, roll up our sleeves, and crack on." For updates on their projects, follow Saurel and Bros on social media platforms like Twitter, Instagram, and their website, Saurel and Bros, and s a u e r l a n d, bros. They're looking forward to a better 2021 and are active on various social media channels.

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