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    332: Pixel Slate, Google Fi, and Section 230

    enNovember 30, 2018

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    • Merck scientist Paul Reicher's discovery on the Space Shuttle Columbia and his experiences with tech devicesPaul Reicher's discovery on the Space Shuttle Columbia led to advancements in medicine preservation and delivery, while Eli's tech reviews reveal the importance of innovation and the challenges of evaluating new devices.

      Merck scientist Paul Reicher's discovery on the Space Shuttle Columbia led to significant advancements in preserving structurally fragile medicines and developing life-saving drug delivery methods. Paul's work is just one example of Merck's dedication to inventing for life. During this discussion on The Vergecast, Paul and Eli talked about their personal experiences, including Paul's recent purchase of a new Sony TV. They also delved into the challenges of reviewing tech devices, such as the Pixel Slate and iPad Pro. Paul and Eli both expressed confusion about the intended audience and purpose of the Pixel Slate. They questioned its specifications, pricing, and lack of a headphone jack. Paul mentioned that he had seen ads for Pixel Books but not for the Pixel Slate. Despite these criticisms, Paul emphasized the importance of innovation and the potential impact of scientific discoveries on people's lives. He encouraged listeners to explore Merck's work and discoveries at Merck.com/inventingforlife. In summary, the conversation highlighted the significance of scientific research and the challenges of evaluating new technology devices. Paul's work on preserving medicines and Eli's tech reviews showcase the ongoing quest for innovation and improvement in various fields.

    • Limited software and ecosystem support hinder tablets from fully replacing laptopsThe speaker highlights the need for significant improvements in software and ecosystem support for tablets to effectively compete with traditional laptops.

      While some devices like the iPad Pro and Pixel Slate have potential, they currently fall short of fully replacing traditional laptops for many users due to limitations in software and ecosystem support. The speaker expressed frustration with the subpar experiences offered by Mars and Pad apps on Mac, tablet mode and Android apps on Chrome OS, and the camera roll-focused approach of iOS. For Windows, the Metro apps are still not up to par. The speaker argued that these companies need to significantly improve their offerings to compete with established laptop platforms. Despite the limitations, there are advocates for these devices, but the lack of a large community providing support and solutions to common issues is a significant drawback. The speaker's perspective is that instead of just accepting and finding workarounds for these walls, it's important to question why they exist in the first place.

    • Discussing the limitations of current computing devicesCompanies should innovate, but also provide practical solutions for users' challenges in computing

      While there are exciting new user interface paradigms emerging in computing, such as the multitasking system on the iPad and Microsoft's Surface Pro, there are still frustrating aspects that need to be addressed. The discussion around the limitations of current computing devices should not be mistaken for a critique of the future of computing itself. Companies should be encouraged to continue innovating, but they must also provide practical solutions for users when encountering inevitable challenges. The gluing together of Android and Chrome OS is an interesting concept, but it currently feels unfinished. The ultimate goal is to make apps on big screen computers as efficient and lightweight as those on phones.

    • Chrome OS for power users and creatives falls short, Android apps recommended but not seamlessly integrated.Despite Chrome OS offering web apps, it's not ideal for power users and creatives. Android apps are recommended, but their integration brings bugs and compatibility issues. Rapid iteration of new versions sometimes results in half-baked releases, particularly on high-end devices.

      Chrome OS, while offering web apps for basic tasks, falls short for power users and creatives. For more advanced functions, Android apps are recommended. However, the integration of Android into Chrome OS is not seamless and introduces bugs and compatibility issues. The rapid iteration of new versions, while beneficial for security and features, sometimes results in half-baked releases, particularly with higher-end devices meant to compete with iPads and MacBooks. The inconsistency between the messaging of Pixelbook ads, which promise a reliable device, and the actual experience, is a significant concern.

    • Google Pixel Slate's tablet mode UI issues and lagDespite strong performance in laptop mode, Google Pixel Slate's tablet mode has significant UI issues and lag, disappointing users and raising questions about the integration of Android into Chromebooks.

      The form factor of the Google Pixel Slate tablet, when used in tablet mode, leads to significant UI issues and lag, despite performing well in laptop mode. The speaker expresses disappointment, as earlier Chromebooks, like the Pixel, were praised for their simplicity and quick updates, but the integration of Android into these devices seems to be moving them further away from their original strengths. The Pixel Slate, while technically capable of performing tasks the iPad cannot, lacks the stability and fluidity that makes the iPad appealing. It's unclear if Google rushed the release for the holiday season, but the product feels incomplete and underdeveloped. The hardware division within Google could benefit from a more hands-on, Jobsian-style leader who can ensure products are ready for launch and meet the high standards users expect.

    • Technology companies face ongoing issues with perfect appliances despite constant improvementsUsers experience bugs and inconveniences with new tablets, and the push for versatile devices like detachable keyboards may not always align with consumer needs.

      While technology companies are pushing for perfect appliances, especially in the tablet market, users still encounter bugs and issues that require constant attention and adjustments. For instance, Bluetooth connectivity problems with Google's Pixel Slate caused music to play for others and headphones to disconnect frequently. These issues can disrupt the user experience and make the device feel less than ideal. Moreover, the push for tablets with detachable keyboards may not be entirely rooted in what consumers truly want, but rather in a sci-fi vision of what they should want. The convenience of using a device as both a tablet and a laptop is appealing, but the experience can be marred by the inconvenience of a bulky laptop-like design. The surface, despite its quirks, has gotten it right in terms of offering a versatile device that can function as both a tablet and a laptop. However, the challenges of designing such a device persist, and it will be interesting to see how third-party manufacturers address the iPad's new smart connector and the resulting challenges in creating keyboard cases. Additionally, it's worth noting the importance of unsung heroes in science and medicine, such as Maurice Hillerman, who made significant strides in discovering, developing, and inventing vaccines that have saved and improved countless lives worldwide.

    • The Complex Figure of Elon Musk: Hero or Villain?Elon Musk's groundbreaking inventions and innovations, such as SpaceX's Starship and Super Heavy, Tesla's Model 3, and potential collaborations with Daimler Mercedes, continue to shape industries and inspire progress. Understanding his complex actions and their implications is crucial.

      The figures behind groundbreaking inventions and innovations, like Dr. Hillman and Elon Musk, continue to shape industries and inspire progress. Musk's recent news includes SpaceX's Starship and Super Heavy, Tesla's Model 3 challenges, and potential collaborations with Daimler Mercedes. The overwhelming amount of news surrounding Musk highlights the need for clear personal narratives to help navigate and understand the relevance of the information. While some may view Musk as a hero or a genius, others may see him as a villain, but acknowledging the complexity of his actions and their implications is essential. Regardless, these individuals' commitments to innovation and progress have lasting impacts on various industries and our daily lives.

    • Google Fi now supports iPhones and offers unique pricing modelGoogle Fi, a cell phone service by Google, now supports iPhones and offers a unique pricing model where users pay $20 for their phone line and $10 per gigabyte of data, but are throttled once they hit 15 or 16 gigs and pay an additional $15 per month. It also allows users to add data devices without extra costs.

      Google Fi, Google's cell phone service, has officially become a Google product and now supports iPhones and a wider range of Android phones. The service, which operates on the networks of T-Mobile, Sprint, and US Cellular, is polarizing due to its unique pricing model. Users pay a flat rate of $20 for their phone line and $10 per gigabyte of data, but once they hit 15 or 16 gigs of data, they are throttled unless they pay an additional $15 per month. For some, this model is perfect, as it can result in lower bills for those who use less data. However, for heavy data users, it can get expensive quickly. One unique feature of Google Fi is that it allows users to put a Fi SIM in as many data devices as they want without incurring additional costs. The speaker in the podcast shares her personal experience of using Google Fi as a secondary line and for her iPad, which costs her nothing extra as long as she doesn't use it for LTE data. Overall, Google Fi's pricing model may not be for everyone, but for those who use less data, it can offer significant cost savings.

    • Exploring the versatility of a Windows tablet and Project Fi's bundled servicesThe speaker shares his experience using a Windows tablet for work and leisure, expressing appreciation for its versatility but concerns about potential inconsistent service quality with Project Fi. He also discusses the upcoming HTTP3 protocol and its potential implications for user privacy.

      The speaker is experimenting with using a Windows tablet as a secondary device for work and leisure, appreciating its versatility despite its limitations. Regarding Project Fi, the speaker expresses excitement about Google's bundled services but expresses concerns about potential changes and the potential for inconsistent service quality, especially for non-Pixel devices. Additionally, the speaker discusses the upcoming HTTP3 protocol and its potential implications for user privacy. Lastly, Walt Mossberg's privacy concerns and the new Congress were mentioned as additional topics. Overall, the conversation revolves around the balance between convenience, versatility, and potential risks in technology.

    • Immunity for User-Generated Content on Social Media PlatformsSection 230 of the Communications Decency Act shields social media platforms from liability for user-generated content, as long as they act in good faith to remove objectionable material.

      Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act is a crucial law that grants immunity to social media platforms and other interactive computer services from being held liable for user-generated content. This law was passed in response to a legal case where a dial-up internet service, Prodigy, was sued for defamation over user posts. Section 230 states that these platforms are not considered publishers and are protected from liability as long as they act in good faith to restrict or remove objectionable content. The recent regulatory scrutiny and political debates surrounding social media companies' biases and the potential revocation of their Section 230 protections highlight the importance of understanding this law.

    • Understanding the Importance of Good Faith in Online PlatformsSection 230 of the Communications Decency Act allows online platforms to moderate content while being transparent and honest in their rule enforcement, protecting them from liability for user-generated content.

      Good faith, as defined by Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, means transparency and honesty in enforcing rules on online platforms. Twitter, YouTube, and Reddit all operate in good faith by making their rules clear and enforcing them consistently, even if they are not perfect. Eliminating Section 230 would make these platforms financially responsible for every post, turning them into lawsuit machines instead of thriving online communities. The law enables the internet by giving platforms the freedom to moderate while protecting them from liability for user-generated content. It's essential to understand that platforms are not publishers for user-generated content and that Section 230 is the foundation of every platform on the internet.

    • Section 230 debate: Balancing open platforms and regulationThe Section 230 law's impact on tech giants like Facebook and Twitter sparks debate over balancing open platforms and regulation, particularly when these companies function as media outlets with a billion or more users.

      Section 230, a law from the 90s protecting online platforms from liability for user-generated content, has become a subject of debate due to its impact on companies like Facebook and Twitter. These platforms, which function as media outlets in many ways, have used the protection to avoid being labeled as media companies and the accompanying responsibilities. However, some argue that platforms with a billion or more users should be held to different standards, as they have a significant impact on the information landscape. The nuance lies in balancing the protection for platforms to moderate content with the need for accountability when they cross into media territory. The individual's role in this scenario is also worth considering, as users invest their time and generate content on these platforms, but the terms of service and their legal rights are often unclear. Ultimately, the conversation revolves around striking a balance between the need for open platforms and the need for regulation to ensure fairness and accountability.

    • The 230 law and control over user-generated contentThe 230 law's impact on tech monopolies' control over user-generated content and the debate over accountability, free speech, and unintended consequences.

      The 230 law, which provides immunity to tech companies for user-generated content, is a topic of intense debate due to the power and potential bias of tech monopolies like Twitter and Facebook. Some argue that these companies, as dominant players, have too much control over user-generated content and should be held accountable for their algorithms and content moderation. Others argue that changing the law could have unintended consequences, such as limiting free speech or harming smaller competitors. The debate highlights the need for careful consideration of the balance between regulation and innovation in the tech industry. It's important to note that this is a complex issue with nuanced perspectives from various stakeholders, and this summary only scratches the surface of the discussion.

    • Revolutionizing Entertainment with Technology70% of Americans binge watch, feeling strong connections to characters and screens. Tech allows viewers control over what, when, and where they watch, enhancing convenience and enjoyment.

      Technology is revolutionizing our entertainment experiences and creating deeper connections between viewers and their screens. From binge watching TV shows on high-definition screens to smart yoga pants that guide users through their workouts, technology is making once passive experiences more interactive and immersive. This trend is evident in the growing popularity of binge watching, with over 70% of Americans engaging in this behavior and feeling a strong connection to the characters and screens they engage with. Additionally, technology now allows viewers to control not just what they watch, but when and where they watch it, adding to the overall convenience and enjoyment of these experiences. This shift towards more immersive and interactive entertainment is likely to continue, with innovations like self-driving cars and smart yoga pants pushing the boundaries of what's possible.

    • Latest iPhone model and potential sales cuts, Apple's silence, and new Roku speakers with a mysterious buttonApple may no longer disclose iPhone sales numbers, new Roku speakers have a mysterious 'TBD' button, and Motorola releases a new Moto G7 power with a long-lasting battery

      There have been recent discussions about the latest iPhone model and potential cuts in supplier orders, leading some to speculate about a decrease in overall iPhone sales. Apple, however, has remained cryptic about the situation and may no longer disclose iPhone sales numbers in the future. Additionally, there have been positive reviews for the Roku speakers, which come with two remotes, one of which has a mysterious "TBD" button that currently does nothing but is expected to have a future function. Despite some quirks, both the iPhone and Roku speakers have received praise for their functionality and affordability. Motorola, meanwhile, has released a new Moto G7 power with a long-lasting battery, addressing a common complaint about the Pixel 3. Overall, these tech developments showcase a mix of innovation, affordability, and intrigue.

    • Diverse Opinions on Tech: Pixel 3, DJ Osmo Pocket, Surface Studio, and BitcoinPeople have varying reactions to new tech products and ideas, with some expressing excitement and others raising concerns. The potential release of a Surface Studio monitor and the concept of using tech for productivity were also discussed, along with the idea of holding onto Bitcoin for the long term.

      People have different experiences and preferences when it comes to technology. While some were excited about the new Pixel 3 and the DJ Osmo Pocket, others had issues with the screen quality and overall experience on the Pixel 3. The discussion also touched on the potential release of a Surface Studio monitor and the idea of using technology to enhance productivity. Additionally, there was a mention of Bitcoin being on sale and the concept of holding onto it for the long term. The conversation ended with recommendations for various podcasts and shows. Overall, the conversation highlighted the diversity of opinions and experiences in the tech world.

    • Interview with Carolyn Cinders on Internet Harassment and Speech IssuesTune in for an insightful conversation with writer Carolyn Cinders on internet harassment and speech issues, airing later today on The Vergecast. Engage and leave a review on iTunes.

      Next week on The Vergecast, hosts Casey Newton and Nilay Patel will be interviewing Carolyn Cinders, a writer known for her work on internet harassment and speech issues. This topic is of great importance and relevance in today's digital age. The interview is set to take place later today, and listeners are encouraged to tune in and engage with the podcast. The Verge can be accessed on various platforms, including iTunes, and listeners are encouraged to leave a five-star review. The conversation promises to be insightful and timely, shedding light on an important issue that affects many internet users. Stay tuned for this thought-provoking episode.

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    Innovation Overground: Defending the U.S. from drowsiness and Ebola

    Innovation Overground: Defending the U.S. from drowsiness and Ebola
    Academic research doesn’t just happen at universities. The Overground tips its hat to Veterans Affairs, the Department of Defense and all the cool research laboratories outside of the academic-industrial complex. The first stop on the tour: Techlink, a technology transfer source for federal researchers that shows how the U.S. Army is leading the way in the fight against Ebola... and drowsiness.   Featured Technology: https://techlinkcenter.org/technologies/2b-alert-personalized-alertness-cognitive-performance-app/; https://techlinkcenter.org/zmapp-trials-restarted-as-ebola-outbreak-persists-in-congo/  Hosts: Charlie Litton (@charlielitton); Tyler Scherr (@dare2scherr); Joe Runge (@EntreprenurialW)  Sponsor:  UNeMed (https://www.unemed.com); @UNeMed  Music: Countdown to Myocardial Infarction, by Peter Gresser. Used with permission. http://sonofactori.com/