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    #361: The Untold Story of WWII's 45th Infantry Division

    enDecember 05, 2017

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    • The Significant Role of the 45th Infantry Division in World War IIColonel Felix Sparks led the 45th Infantry Division, known as Thunderbirds, in over 500 days of combat, including the liberation of Dachau concentration camp. Alex Kershaw, a WWII historian, shares their unique story in 'The Liberator'.

      The 45th Infantry Division, also known as the Thunderbirds, played a significant role in World War II despite often being overlooked. Led by Colonel Felix Sparks, these soldiers saw over 500 days of combat, including the liberation of the Dachau concentration camp. Author Alex Kershaw, who has written several books on World War II, shares the unique story of this division in his book "The Liberator." Kershaw, who became fascinated with World War II during his journalism career, believes that the period is the greatest story of our time and feels fortunate to have spent decades interviewing and writing about the remarkable people who lived through it. He encourages everyone to reach out to World War II veterans before they disappear from our ranks forever.

    • Native American soldiers in the 45th Infantry Division during WWII1,500 Native Americans in the Thunderbird Division, a significant representation of America's original inhabitants, fought against Nazism and played a crucial role in liberating the first concentration camp, Dachau.

      The 45th Infantry Division, also known as the Thunderbird Division, during World War II stood out due to its significant number of Native American soldiers. With over 1,500 Native Americans in a division of around 14,000, they were a proud representation of America's original inhabitants. The division's insignia was changed from a swastika to a Thunderbird patch in 1938, symbolizing a powerful force for good that could be harnessed for the right cause. These Native American soldiers, alongside recent immigrants, fought against the ultimate evil of the 20th century - Nazism, and played a crucial role in liberating the first Nazi concentration camp, Dachau, in April 1945. The Thunderbird symbol represented their potent and destructive force against the enemy, making their contribution to the war even more significant.

    • Native American Thunderbirds challenged Nazi beliefsNative American Thunderbirds' bravery during WWII disproved German assumptions of inferior enemies, boosting morale for Allied forces and contributing to their eventual victory

      The Native American Thunderbird Division's involvement in World War II challenged Nazi perceptions of their supposed superiority. Germans believed they were fighting inferior enemies due to propaganda, but the Thunderbirds' bravery and resilience proved them wrong. This psychological shock had a profound impact on the morale of ordinary German soldiers, contributing to their eventual defeat. Despite the Thunderbird Division's significant contribution to the war effort, lasting 511 days in combat, they often receive less recognition compared to other units like the 101st Airborne. This highlights the importance of recognizing the diverse contributions of various military units in shaping the outcome of historical events.

    • The Forgotten War: The Italian Campaign of WWIIMeritocracy in US military: Those who perform well and survive in combat can advance in rank, as demonstrated by Felix Sparks's journey from record-keeping to battalion command during the Italian Campaign

      The Italian campaign during World War II, which took place from July 1943 to July 1944, is often referred to as the "Forgotten War." Despite involving some of the hardest fighting for Americans in Europe, with significant battles such as the invasions of Sicily and Anzio, this period has been overshadowed by the more famous D-Day landings. A notable figure during this campaign was Felix Sparks, who started as a captain keeping records in Sicily but demanded to lead men in combat. He became a company commander during the invasion of Salerno and remained in that role until the summer of 1944, when he was promoted to battalion commander. Sparks's story is a testament to the meritocracy in the US military, where those who perform well and survive in combat can advance in rank.

    • Leading men in combat builds personal bondsDespite the challenges and losses, leading soldiers in combat creates deep respect and is the greatest job for a commander.

      Leading a small group of men in combat allows for the formation of personal bonds and a deep sense of respect. The interviewee, a company commander during World War II, led his men through various battles in Europe, including the liberation of the Dakar concentration camp. Despite the long and dangerous journey, which lasted over 1,500 miles and resulted in the deaths of over 1,500 men under his command, he considered it the greatest job he ever had. The campaign at Anzio, Italy, was particularly challenging for the Allies due to the Germans' defensive tactics and the mountainous terrain. The Allies attempted to end the campaign quickly by launching an amphibious invasion at Anzio, but the operation was botched and the landing forces became stuck in a deadly stalemate for three months. The interviewee's story is a testament to the importance of strong leadership and the bonds formed between soldiers in combat.

    • The profound emotional impact of war on individualsThe Battle of the Bulge left a 25-year-old commander, Sparks, as the only survivor of his company, causing him deep survivor's guilt and emotional scars that lasted a lifetime.

      The profound impact of war on individuals, specifically the story of a 25-year-old company commander named Sparks during the Battle of the Bulge in World War II. This battle was the bloodiest for the Allies in Europe, resulting in over 70,000 casualties. Sparks and his unit, in particular his regiment and company, played a crucial role in stopping the fiercest German counter-attack, but tragically, he was the only survivor. The loss of his entire company left him with immense survivor's guilt and a deeply broken heart. Despite carrying on with life, the scars of losing his men remained with him for the rest of his life. The battle impressed upon us the incomprehensible length and intensity of combat and the difficulty of moving on after experiencing such a profound loss. Sparks' story serves as a poignant reminder of the deep emotional wounds of war that last a lifetime.

    • During wartime, the motivation to protect one's own country and loved ones is stronger than fighting in a foreign land.Lt. Col. Sparks put his life on the line to save wounded soldiers during WWII, demonstrating the selflessness and courage of leaders who prioritize saving lives over orders to attack.

      During wartime, the motivation to fight and protect one's own country, soil, and family is much stronger than fighting in a foreign land. This was exemplified by the actions of Lieutenant Colonel Sparks during World War II in Germany. Despite orders to attack and advance, Sparks put his life on the line to save his wounded men, even risking being shot by the enemy. His selflessness and courage were remarkable, and his soldiers saw him as a father figure who would do everything in his power to keep them alive. Despite his heroic actions, Sparks did not receive the recognition he deserved, such as the Medal of Honor, but he remained a revered figure to those who served under him. The responsibility of giving orders to attack every day was a heavy burden, but for Sparks, the importance of saving lives outweighed the risks.

    • Effective leadership on the battlefieldAn officer's presence and fighting alongside soldiers can greatly boost morale and motivation during war

      Effective leadership in times of war can make a significant difference in the morale and motivation of soldiers. As shared in the discussion, an officer named Sparks led his men in attacking German positions during World War II, understanding the gravity of the losses and the impact on his soldiers. He was not a distant commander, but one who fought alongside his men, which made a huge difference in their morale. The men were initially shocked when they encountered a concentration camp, but the reality of the horrors of war and the atrocities committed by the Nazis made them more determined to fight. Despite the danger, soldiers were motivated to continue the advance into Germany, not just for their country, but for their comrades and the cause of civilization against barbarism. The leadership and presence of Sparks on the front lines made a significant impact on the morale and motivation of his soldiers.

    • The bond between soldiers and their comrades during warDuring war, soldiers form strong bonds, experience intense emotions, and witness liberation, showcasing the human spirit's resilience.

      During times of war and hardship, the bond between soldiers and their comrades becomes stronger than any fear of the enemy. The experiences of combat, such as losing a friend or witnessing unimaginable horrors, can leave soldiers feeling enraged, grieving, and traumatized. The liberation of a concentration camp, like Dakar, brought immense relief and joy to the survivors, many of whom had been imprisoned for years. This event marked a new beginning for them, a chance at life after enduring unimaginable suffering. The camaraderie and unity among soldiers and the profound impact of liberation are enduring reminders of the human spirit's resilience in the face of adversity.

    • Reflecting on the liberation of Europe by American troopsThe sacrifices of young American soldiers during WWII led to the liberation of Europe from immense evil and significantly impacted European history and US-Europe relations

      The liberation of Europe by American troops during World War II is an astonishing achievement in American history. Alex Kershaw, the author of several books on the topic, including "The Liberator," emphasizes the significance of this event and the sacrifices made by young Americans in liberating Europe from immense evil and barbarism. As we approach the end of the practical lives of World War II veterans, it's crucial to reflect on their heroism and the profound impact their actions had on European history and American-European relations. To learn more about Alex's work, visit his website at AlexCoastLaw.com or check out his books on Amazon.com.

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