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    64. Are Women Required to Be Nicer Than Men?

    en-usAugust 15, 2021

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    • The Importance of Being Nice in CommunicationBeing nice doesn't prevent asking tough questions or challenging ideas. Signal you're an ally and approach conversations as a dialogue, not a debate.

      Being nice is an important aspect of effective communication, but it's not the only factor. The dynamic between being nice and challenging ideas can coexist. Angela Duckworth and Stephen Dubner, hosts of the No Stupid Questions podcast, discussed the importance of being nice in getting a message across, particularly in a gender context. While Angela was reportedly nice as a child, she now feels it's part of her job to ask critical questions. She doesn't see a conflict between being kind and loving deep down and asking negative or snarky questions. Stephen, as a journalist, also feels it's part of his job to question everything and challenge assumptions. They both agree that it's possible to ask tough questions while maintaining a friendly and non-confrontational tone. The key is to signal that you're an ally, not a foe, and to approach the conversation as a conversation rather than a debate. In the end, the goal is to foster productive and meaningful dialogue.

    • Start off with non-confrontational questions to build rapportEffective communication in interviews involves starting with friendly questions to establish rapport, saving challenging questions for later to avoid defensiveness.

      Effective communication and interviewing techniques involve starting off with non-confrontational questions to build rapport, and only introducing challenging questions later. This approach helps to keep the interviewee from feeling defensive and allows them to fully present their argument. The use of positive feedback and collaboration at the end of an interview can also help to improve the overall experience and reduce any potential aggression. However, this tactic, often referred to as the "sandwich method," can be criticized. In a professional setting, particularly for women in academia or politics, there can be an expectation or pressure to be perceived as both competent and warm, which can make it challenging for women to assert themselves without being seen as less likable. This can result in a penalty for women who are perceived as less warm, even if they are qualified. The dominant theoretical framework in social cognition suggests that people are judged based on two dimensions: warmth and competence. Men are typically seen as competent if they are seen as competent, but women must be seen as both competent and warm to be perceived as confident. This can create a higher reference point for women's behavior in professional settings.

    • Women's higher empathy and warmthWomen often exhibit more empathy and warmth than men, contributing to a fairer economy and beneficial relationships. However, niceness isn't always effective, and it's important for everyone to express empathy and assertiveness as needed.

      Women, on average, exhibit higher levels of empathy and warmth than men, according to various scientific studies. This could be due to biological or societal factors, and it might explain why empathy and caring are more valued in women. However, it's essential to consider whether this is a trait or a strategy. In the field of economics, where women have made significant strides in recent decades, they have brought a unique perspective, leading to holistic reforms for a fairer economy. Empathy and niceness are generally beneficial, but there are times when being firm is necessary. Niceness often leads to reciprocity, but it's crucial to recognize that it's not always effective, and it's essential to know when to be assertive. Ultimately, the goal should be to encourage men to develop and express empathy and caring more, rather than expecting women to bear the emotional burden alone.

    • The Complexity of Kindness and ReciprocityWhile kindness is important, reciprocity is often expected in social situations. Understanding the spectrum of altruism and the concept of disagreeable giving can help navigate these dynamics. Gender roles around kindness and empathy are also evolving.

      While niceness and kindness are important, there is an expectation of reciprocity in most social situations outside of family. This means that when kindness goes unrecognized or unreciprocated, it can lead to feelings of annoyance and a decrease in future acts of kindness. However, true altruism exists on a spectrum, with some people being more matchers, some more givers, and some more takers. The concept of being a "disagreeable giver" suggests that being productive and helpful while being slightly disagreeable or cranky can also be effective. The gender roles around kindness and empathy are also evolving, with men increasingly taking on warm and prosocial identities. Overall, the conversation highlights the complexity of human relationships and the importance of recognizing and appreciating acts of kindness.

    • The ongoing debate about the value of reading vs other mediaWhile reading has its merits, it's essential to value all forms of learning and consumption, as not everyone who buys books actually reads them.

      The debate over the value of reading versus other forms of media consumption, such as watching documentaries or educational videos, is not a new one. Throughout history, there have been concerns raised about the potential negative effects of various media technologies, from Socrates warning against writing to concerns about the social isolation of reading newspapers in the 18th century. John's issue seems to be with the moral high ground that some readers take, implying that other forms of learning are inferior. However, it's important to note that not everyone who buys books actually reads them. For example, an experiment was conducted with the winning book of the Booker Prize, where it was found that many people who bought the book never redeemed the coupon inside for the reward. This highlights the need for a more nuanced conversation about the value of different forms of learning and consumption. Ultimately, it's up to each individual to find what works best for them and to value all forms of knowledge and enrichment.

    • The Reality of Making a Bestseller ListMaking a bestseller list requires selling only a few thousand copies, but most people consume digital media like podcasts instead of books.

      The New York Times bestseller lists may seem exclusive, but the reality is that selling even a few thousand copies of a book can lead to a spot on the list. Additionally, while it may be impressive to make a bestseller list, the truth is that very few people read books, and most people follow podcasts or other digital media where they can easily access new content regularly. The speaker also shared that he enjoys the interview process and the back-and-forth of conversations, but finds the writing process less satisfying as important context is often lost in translation. Overall, the conversation highlighted the changing landscape of media consumption and the unique advantages and challenges of different formats.

    • Exploring Different Learning MediumsEveryone has unique learning styles and preferences, and no single medium is inherently superior to others. Find what works best for you, whether it's reading, listening, or watching.

      Different mediums offer unique learning experiences, and the context and level of engagement can vary greatly between them. For instance, in an audio interview, the listener hears more directly from the person being interviewed in their native context, whereas, in a written article, the writer has more control over the context. However, some people may find that reading is more effortful and require a higher level of engagement compared to passive media like podcasts or YouTube videos. It's essential to recognize that everyone has different learning styles and preferences, and no single medium is inherently superior to others. Ultimately, the key is to explore various avenues for learning and find what works best for you. Whether you're a constant reader or prefer watching videos, the important thing is to continue expanding your knowledge and staying curious.

    • The Importance of Reading as a Learning SystemEncouraging reading from a young age can lead to improved skills and long-term benefits, but a negative experience early on can make it difficult to appreciate its value.

      While different mediums like podcasts, films, and audiobooks have their unique features, the importance and uniqueness of reading as a learning system should not be underestimated. The ability to read well is complex and varies greatly among individuals, and reading takes effort. The enjoyment of reading and a positive attitude towards it can lead to more frequent reading, which in turn improves reading skills. However, if someone has a negative experience with reading early on, they might find it difficult to appreciate its value. As a parent, recognizing this and encouraging reading despite the allure of other engaging media can help children develop into good readers and reap the long-term benefits. The Matthew effect in reading refers to the idea that the reading skills of good readers continue to improve, while those who struggle may fall further behind. Therefore, fostering a love for reading from a young age is crucial.

    • Exploring different mediums for learningEncouraging reading while embracing various information sources can foster continuous learning.

      While the medium of information consumption may vary depending on the context and goal, encouraging a love for reading and continuous learning is essential. The decline in reading rates in recent decades doesn't necessarily mean that people no longer read books. Instead, it highlights the importance of considering various options to gather information and finding what suits one's purpose best. Moreover, the choice between reading and watching videos or documentaries doesn't make one better than the other. Both have their merits, and neither should make us feel inferior. The name change of the Booker Prize was indeed related to funding, but it's essential to remember the historical context of the original sponsor's involvement in Guyana and African slavery. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the importance of being open-minded about different mediums and continuing to learn in various ways.

    • Professors hide money in dissertations for attentionSome professors have resorted to hiding money in their dissertations to ensure they are read, with unexpected outcomes

      Professors have used creative methods to ensure their work is read, such as hiding money in their dissertations. For instance, Rutgers psychology professor Mark Leary hid a $20 bill in his 2004 University of Chicago dissertation, only to find it replaced with a $1 bill fifteen years later. This discovery has made the speaker more determined to finish books and check for hidden cash. While the discussion also touched on various topics, the main theme revolves around the lengths people go to for attention and the unexpected outcomes that can result.

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